Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Provincial e-mail lists
From:	"pjane@-------- " <pjane@-------->
Date:	Sat, 05 Aug 2000 00:44:35 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, <gmvick32@u...> wrote:
> Oh no!! There is support for my suggestion, and I pondered on it
and decided
> it wouldn't work! We have to love the group process....:)

If one were to do this - and upon reflection I'm not so sure either -
one would tell people on the Citizenship application form that if
they
enter a valid e-mail address, they will be subscribed to the relevant
lists. That way they couldn't say they weren't warned, and they would
always have the option to enter, say, nothing@--------

Still, the nicest approach would be simply to give each new Citizen
the
subscription info for the relevant lists, including not only the main
list and his/her Provincia, but also for lists relating to various
interests such as the Religio Romana, cooking, military history and
so
forth.

Patricia Cassia
who is on her third post of the day and will therefore follow her own
advice by shutting up...



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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Provincial e-mail lists
From:	cassius622@--------
Date:	Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:04:48 EDT

Salvete,

Although I think that any 'automatic subscription without consent' would be
dangerous, the basic concept doing more to get people plugged in from the
very start is a good one.

How 'bout this: suppose a new 'check box' was added to the Citizenship form?
"To be automatically subscribed to the Nova Roma main list Click here:"

** Yes, subscribe me to receive the Nova Roma list by individual Emails.

** I would prefer to subscribe to the Nova Roma list in one Daily Digest.

** I do not with to subscribe to the main Nova Roma list at this time.

It would be completely consensual, and would eliminate us sitting and waiting
for people to run across the main list through the website.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus


In a message dated 8/4/00 4:22:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
gmvick32@-------- writes:

<< Oh no!! There is support for my suggestion, and I pondered on it and
decided
it wouldn't work! We have to love the group process....:)

What I would recommend is if enough Senators think the idea is indeed worth
considering, that we contact Egroups and make sure they are ok with the
idea!! If we can get them to state that they are ok with it (esp. in email),
then we could proceed with it.

I still like the idea myself. I just didn't want to open us to the
liability of spamming charges.

In service,
L Cornelia Aurelia



"pjane@--------" wrote:

> > When a new member is accepted into Nova Roma, have the censor
> > automatically sign them up to the Nova Roma list and a
> provincial
> > list, if there is one for that citizen. Then, have the
> introductory
> > message specifically state that participation in the list is
> OPTIONAL,
> > and give the citizen instructions on how to either configure
> how they
> > want to receive the email, or to unsubscribe altogether.
> Also, give
> > them instructions on how to go to egroups and find other lists
> that
> > might be of interest. This would be somewhat akin to having
> the local
> > welcome wagon show up on their doorstep, but they could still
> choose
> > not to accept visitors.
>
> Excellent idea, Aurelia! I recommend that this be brought to the
> Consuls for consideration by the Senate.
>
> Patricia Cassia
> oh, I suppose I ought to list the titles:
> Quaestrix, Senatrix et Curatrix Sermonem >>

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: Provincial e-mail lists
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@-------->
Date:	Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:13:30 -0700

That is a cool idea! :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

----- Original Message -----
From: <cassius622@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 7:04 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Provincial e-mail lists


> Salvete,
>
> Although I think that any 'automatic subscription without consent' would
be
> dangerous, the basic concept doing more to get people plugged in from the
> very start is a good one.
>
> How 'bout this: suppose a new 'check box' was added to the Citizenship
form?
> "To be automatically subscribed to the Nova Roma main list Click here:"
>
> ** Yes, subscribe me to receive the Nova Roma list by individual Emails.
>
> ** I would prefer to subscribe to the Nova Roma list in one Daily Digest.
>
> ** I do not with to subscribe to the main Nova Roma list at this time.
>
> It would be completely consensual, and would eliminate us sitting and
waiting
> for people to run across the main list through the website.
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
>
>
> In a message dated 8/4/00 4:22:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> gmvick32@-------- writes:
>
> << Oh no!! There is support for my suggestion, and I pondered on it and
> decided
> it wouldn't work! We have to love the group process....:)
>
> What I would recommend is if enough Senators think the idea is indeed
worth
> considering, that we contact Egroups and make sure they are ok with the
> idea!! If we can get them to state that they are ok with it (esp. in
email),
> then we could proceed with it.
>
> I still like the idea myself. I just didn't want to open us to the
> liability of spamming charges.
>
> In service,
> L Cornelia Aurelia
>
>
>
> "pjane@--------" wrote:
>
> > > When a new member is accepted into Nova Roma, have the censor
> > > automatically sign them up to the Nova Roma list and a
> > provincial
> > > list, if there is one for that citizen. Then, have the
> > introductory
> > > message specifically state that participation in the list is
> > OPTIONAL,
> > > and give the citizen instructions on how to either configure
> > how they
> > > want to receive the email, or to unsubscribe altogether.
> > Also, give
> > > them instructions on how to go to egroups and find other lists
> > that
> > > might be of interest. This would be somewhat akin to having
> > the local
> > > welcome wagon show up on their doorstep, but they could still
> > choose
> > > not to accept visitors.
> >
> > Excellent idea, Aurelia! I recommend that this be brought to the
> > Consuls for consideration by the Senate.
> >
> > Patricia Cassia
> > oh, I suppose I ought to list the titles:
> > Quaestrix, Senatrix et Curatrix Sermonem >>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Subject:	[novaroma] Comments on Legate Edictum
From:	cassius622@--------
Date:	Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:37:23 EDT

Salvete,

I'm getting to the discussion of this Edicta late... I only had time to look
over the list Edicta last evening.


In a message dated 8/3/00 12:32:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
alexious@-------- writes:

> Section 1: Privileges and responsibilities of Legates in California
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> authority to create, distribute, and enact means for the advertisement and
> recruitment of new citizens for Nova Roma (such as flyers) after gaining
approval > of the provincial governor under which he/she serves.

Cassius:
You might wish to include a bit about such promotional info also being
approved by the Senate, or possibly even the Sodalitas Egressus. We should
have a variety of promotional materials, true... but we might not want an
unlimited array of the things. There is probably also a need to make sure
that promotional items are clear and well written, and truly representational
of all the basic aspects of NR. That may well take approval by more than one
Provincial Praetor.

Sulla:
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> authority
> to speak for the governor should the governor loose access to his/her
> normal
> means of communication with Nova Roma.

Cassius:
Fair enough, especially in the case of short term situations. Longer terms
might possibly require Senate approval...

Sulla:
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> authority to organize meetings and gatherings of citizens of the province.

Cassius:
Understandable. All Citizens of course have the right to hold Roman
gatherings, and even do Nova Roma involved events... but official Provincia
events are of course the responsibility of the Propraetors office and
representatives.

Sulla:
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is responsible for
> > whatever duties assigned to him/her by the governor within boundary of
> Nova Roman law.

Cassius:
Although Legates would of course have recourse to contact the Senate
regarding duties that were questionable, etc... ?

Sulla:
> -- All Legates must maintain communication with the Governor. In the
> beginning an email every two (2) weeks giving the Proconsul an update
> should be sufficient.

Cassius:
As Proconsul of the California Provincia, do you send official updates to the
Senate every two weeks? No. So far policy has been to report if anything is
actually going on. It might be wise to not require people to flood you with
information unless it's necessary. ;)

Sulla:
> Section 2: Limits on the appointment of Legates in California
>
> -- The provincial governor of the province of California and Nevada may
> > appoint as many as five Legates to serve the various purposes in which
> he/she needs assistance.

Cassius:
Interesting number. Why five? I suppose there must be some limit somewhere,
but you've got a lot of people in your Provincia. Let's say you have one
Legate in Los Angeles. How much can one person really accomplish in a city
that large? Should they also then be covering San Francisco and all bordering
counties too? (Note, this is not a complaint ... merely musing about setting
limits so early.)

Sulla:
> -- The province of California and Nevada must have at least four (4)
> Legates
> for the following reasons:
> 1. A Legate must be appointed for the upkeep of the provincial
> website
> 2. A Legate must be appointed from Northern California
> 3. A Legate must be appointed from Southern California
> 4. A Legate must be appointed from Nevada

Cassius:
Fine for the moment, but it might be helpful to reserve the right to appoint
more people if the coverage is genuinely needed and useful.

Sulla:
> -- No more than two (2) of the Legates appointed by the governor may be
> members of that governor's gens.

Cassius:
BRAVO! Coming from a Gens as large as Gens Cornelia, this is a true show of
concern for decorum. :)

Sulla:
> -- The governor must, upon appointing a Legate, define publicly the
> duties which that Legate is responsible for. The governor may declare the
> purpose of the Legate simply as: "To assist me in the various duties of
> governance."

Cassius:
Surely you'd assign a Legate to cover a specific territory, or hold specific
duties? The general statement above seems to sound more like Scriba work.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Senator
Proconsul, Nova Britannia Provincia



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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Comments on Legate Edictum
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@-------->
Date:	Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:53:42 -0700

----- Original Message -----
From: <cassius622@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 7:37 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Comments on Legate Edictum


> Salvete,
>
> I'm getting to the discussion of this Edicta late... I only had time to
look
> over the list Edicta last evening.
>
>
> In a message dated 8/3/00 12:32:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> alexious@-------- writes:
>
> > Section 1: Privileges and responsibilities of Legates in California
> > -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> > authority to create, distribute, and enact means for the advertisement
and
> > recruitment of new citizens for Nova Roma (such as flyers) after
gaining
> approval > of the provincial governor under which he/she serves.
>
> Cassius:
> You might wish to include a bit about such promotional info also being
> approved by the Senate, or possibly even the Sodalitas Egressus. We should
> have a variety of promotional materials, true... but we might not want an
> unlimited array of the things. There is probably also a need to make sure
> that promotional items are clear and well written, and truly
representational
> of all the basic aspects of NR. That may well take approval by more than
one
> Provincial Praetor.

Sulla: Does the Seante have to approve every piece of promotional
information? As governor I would automatically involve the Sodalias
Egressus, thats why I am a member of it. :)

> Sulla:
> > -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> > authority
> > to speak for the governor should the governor loose access to his/her
> > normal
> > means of communication with Nova Roma.
>
> Cassius:
> Fair enough, especially in the case of short term situations. Longer terms
> might possibly require Senate approval...

Sulla: Good idea, the case in point, why I included this was when I was
away because my mom was in the Hospital...I contacted Drusus Cornelius and
had him notify the Provinca that I was away from my computer..and any
information that needs my attention needed to get to him.....becuase he had
my contact information. :)

> Sulla:
> > -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> > authority to organize meetings and gatherings of citizens of the
province.
>
> Cassius:
> Understandable. All Citizens of course have the right to hold Roman
> gatherings, and even do Nova Roma involved events... but official
Provincia
> events are of course the responsibility of the Propraetors office and
> representatives.

Sulla: Yep. Anyone can have any meeting...but I am speaking about Official
Provinica events. :)

> Sulla:
> > -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is responsible
for
> > > whatever duties assigned to him/her by the governor within boundary
of
> > Nova Roman law.
>
> Cassius:
> Although Legates would of course have recourse to contact the Senate
> regarding duties that were questionable, etc... ?

Sulla: Of course....I guess I should amend that.

> Sulla:
> > -- All Legates must maintain communication with the Governor. In the
> > beginning an email every two (2) weeks giving the Proconsul an update
> > should be sufficient.
>
> Cassius:
> As Proconsul of the California Provincia, do you send official updates to
the
> Senate every two weeks? No. So far policy has been to report if anything
is
> actually going on. It might be wise to not require people to flood you
with
> information unless it's necessary. ;)

Sulla: I am going to change that to a month....reason being...I want to
know the status of anything that is going on. Not for
micromanagement....but for tracking projects. :) In case I can be of
assistance. :)

> Sulla:
> > Section 2: Limits on the appointment of Legates in California
> >
> > -- The provincial governor of the province of California and Nevada
may
> > > appoint as many as five Legates to serve the various purposes in
which
> > he/she needs assistance.
>
> Cassius:
> Interesting number. Why five? I suppose there must be some limit
somewhere,
> but you've got a lot of people in your Provincia. Let's say you have one
> Legate in Los Angeles. How much can one person really accomplish in a city
> that large? Should they also then be covering San Francisco and all
bordering
> counties too? (Note, this is not a complaint ... merely musing about
setting
> limits so early.)

Sulla: Well I have 5 and here is my breakdown, 1 for the web site, 2 for
Northern Cali, 3 for Southern Cali, 4 for Nevada, 5 for my own personal
assistant. :) To me its sound organization. :)

> Sulla:
> > -- The province of California and Nevada must have at least four (4)
> > Legates
> > for the following reasons:
> > 1. A Legate must be appointed for the upkeep of the provincial
> > website
> > 2. A Legate must be appointed from Northern California
> > 3. A Legate must be appointed from Southern California
> > 4. A Legate must be appointed from Nevada
>
> Cassius:
> Fine for the moment, but it might be helpful to reserve the right to
appoint
> more people if the coverage is genuinely needed and useful.

Sulla: Thats why it says at least. :) I am just thinking of barebones
coverage.... :)

> Sulla:
> > -- No more than two (2) of the Legates appointed by the governor may
be
> > members of that governor's gens.
>
> Cassius:
> BRAVO! Coming from a Gens as large as Gens Cornelia, this is a true show
of
> concern for decorum. :)

Sulla: Of course!

> Sulla:
> > -- The governor must, upon appointing a Legate, define publicly the
> > duties which that Legate is responsible for. The governor may declare
the
> > purpose of the Legate simply as: "To assist me in the various duties of
> > governance."
>
> Cassius:
> Surely you'd assign a Legate to cover a specific territory, or hold
specific
> duties? The general statement above seems to sound more like Scriba work.

Sulla: That depends....basically, this statement is for clarification on
the brunt of what job duties they are to function, it no way serves as a
limit..but an overall job description that most companies utilize in the
hiring of employees. That is what I basically meant. :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix



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Subject:	[novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): Nonae Sextiliae (August 5th)
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:08:16 +0100

Salvete omnes

This is one of the dies fasti (F), on which legal actions are permitted.

This day is devoted to Salus, the Public Health. Today is the Dies Natalis
of Her temple on the Quirinal, southwest from the temple of Quirinus. It was
dedicated in 302 BCE. The gate of Salus is adjacent, on the western side of
the temple's precincts.
Among the ceremonies, the Augurium Salutis takes place. The purpose of this
augury is to inquire whether it is permissible to offer prayers for the
continued health of the nation. This ceremony has to be performed in times
of peace and as such, it was forgotten for a long time until Augustus
restored it, thanks to the Pax Augusti.

The month of Sextilis was renamed Augustus in honour of Emperor Octavius
Augustus. This month is sacred to Ceres.

Pax Deorum vobiscum

Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex


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