| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Improving Political Culture | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "M. Apollonius Formosanus" <bvm3@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:33:46 +0200 | 
 
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Salvete Omnes! 
 
    I have just returned from a week of speaking Latin in a 
castle in the countryside of Silesia, where I presented Nova 
Roma to scholars from Germany, Poland, Italy, Slovakia, and 
Austria. Not without a mayoral reception and dinner, and 
television coverage for our Latin programme. 
 
    I was delighted to come home to Nova Roma to discover 
that in my week's absence Censor Sulla presented for 
discussion a proposed edictum as Propraetor, and following 
very well thought-out criticisms, withdrew it. This kind of 
approach is, in my opinion, extremely good for Nova Roma, 
and shows a healthy development in our political culture. 
 
    I feel, as others obviously do, that to try to throw our 
micronation's weight around with "mandatory" things and 
insistence on "duties" is much more likely to alienate 
people and drive tham away than it is to achieve the ends 
which we desire. Our Respublica has very little weight with 
which to oppose people's natural desires, and we should try 
to use that weight only when absolutely necessary. 
 
    Now, I think that there is a very simple solution to the 
Propraetor's problem: simply have a group defined in the 
Propraetorian mail programme of all the cives in the 
provincia and send announcements to them all simultaneously. 
Thus they would not be forced to be on any eGroups list, and 
the only question would be the more direct one of whether 
they will allow the Propraetor to send them things. Of 
course having a provincial list is still a good idea, as it 
permits cives to communicate with one another, not just 
receive instructions from the Propraetor. But *forcing* 
people to be on the list is just to provoke an unwelcome 
reaction. 
 
    Having boxes on the civis application form for the Main 
List and perhaps relevant provincial list is also a good 
idea. Indeed, checkboxes there for all Nova Roma lists for 
Religio and the official sodalities would make things more 
convenient for everyone concerned and protect Nova Roma from 
charges of spamming. 
 
    I might note that in the course of my presentation at 
the Seminar of Living Latin mentioned above, I was wishing 
very intensely for lively and dynamic lists in German, 
Italian, Polish, and Slovak to refer people to. Provincial 
lists for those whose preferred language is not English is a 
rather urgent need, and one which the bulletin board of 
Provincia Germania and the Novaroma Vizantia list do not 
meet completely adequately if our goal is to involve and 
excite new cives from these regions. 
 
Valete! 
 
Marcus Apollonius Formosanus 
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae 
Triumvir Condens Sodalitatis Latinitatis 
Scriba Censorius 
Civis Novae Romae in Silesia, Polonia 
ICQ# 61698049  Gens Apollonia: 
http://www.crosswinds.net/~bvm3/ 
The Gens Apollonia is open to new members. 
AVE RESPVBLICA LIBERA NOSTRA - NOVA ROMA! 
________________________________________________________ 
 
Si vis omnia tibi subicere, te subice Rationi. (Seneca) 
[Se vi deziras subigi chion al vi, subigu vin al Racio.] 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Re: Improving Political Culture | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "pjane@-------- " <pjane@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:42:23 -0000 | 
 
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>     I have just returned from a week of speaking Latin in a 
> castle in the countryside of Silesia, where I presented Nova 
> Roma to scholars from Germany, Poland, Italy, Slovakia, and 
> Austria. Not without a mayoral reception and dinner, and 
> television coverage for our Latin programme. 
 
Wow! Formosane, we are duly impressed. Thank you! 
 
>     Having boxes on the civis application form for the Main 
> List and perhaps relevant provincial list is also a good 
> idea. Indeed, checkboxes there for all Nova Roma lists for 
> Religio and the official sodalities would make things more 
> convenient for everyone concerned and protect Nova Roma from 
> charges of spamming. 
 
Agreed! Let's do this instead of the "interests" section of the  
Citizenship Application (with a section to indicate an interest in a  
topic which is not being covered by a list yet). As far as I know we  
haven't done much with that "interests" information. 
 
>     I might note that in the course of my presentation at 
> the Seminar of Living Latin mentioned above, I was wishing 
> very intensely for lively and dynamic lists in German, 
> Italian, Polish, and Slovak to refer people to.  
 
To anyone who speaks these languages and would like to start one:  
Permission granted! 
 
Patricia Cassia 
Curatrix Sermonem (list mom) 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Fun quote! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 cassius622@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:41:27 EDT | 
 
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Salvete,  
 
I just ran across a great comment that I couldn't resist sharing: 
 
"If Hollywood presented the 20th century like they do Classical history, the  
Red Baron would be fighting Pappy Boyington over the trenches of Nam. Howard  
Cosell and Snoopy would be the tv reporters." 
 
Valete,  
 
Marcus Cassius Julianus 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Fun quote! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 06 Aug 2000 10:26:16 -0700 | 
 
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Hey, I would pay to see that...just because of Pappy Boyington, of the Black 
Sheep! :) 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
 
cassius622@-------- wrote: 
 
> Salvete, 
> 
> I just ran across a great comment that I couldn't resist sharing: 
> 
> "If Hollywood presented the 20th century like they do Classical history, the 
> Red Baron would be fighting Pappy Boyington over the trenches of Nam. Howard 
> Cosell and Snoopy would be the tv reporters." 
> 
> Valete, 
> 
> Marcus Cassius Julianus 
> 
>  
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] In the latest Explorator | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Marcus Papirius Justus <papirius@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 06 Aug 2000 16:03:12 -0600 | 
 
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Items of interest from my newsletter: 
 
OLD WORLD NEWS 
 
Also getting plenty of media attention is the revelation that the Romans  
might have invented the double fermentation process necessary to make  
champagne (or at least knew about it): 
 
http://www.discoveringarchaeology.com/0900toc/9randn2-champagne.shtml 
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk:80/news/pages/tim/2000/08/04/timcrtcrt01002.html 
 
As often, we find out more about Greek archaeological discoveries from  
China's Xinhua agency than anywhere else and today we learn that  
archaeologists have discovered an inscription with Greek musical notation: 
 
http://library.northernlight.com/FB20000804980000061.html?cb=0&dx=1006&sc=0#doc 
 
On a more interesting note, a scholar is claiming that the (now)  
ubiquitious @ sign is first seen at least 500 years ago, as an abbreviation  
for 'amphora': 
 
http://www.smh.com.au:80/news/0008/01/text/world12.html 
http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/20000801/hi_atsign.html 
 
 
CLASSICISTS' CORNER 
 
An emag called Feedmag has an interesting article cum interview with Sarah  
Dougher that's worth reading (this link takes you to the intro page; the  
interview is accessed by a link at the end of the intro): 
 
http://www.feedmag.com/re/re367.html 
 
 
REPRISES 
For reasons unknown, a number of newspapers reprised items from other  
newspapers which we mentioned last week in Explorator, so just in case you  
missed them: 
 
On gladiatorial training mania in Italy: 
 
http://www.suntimes.com:80/output/news/glad30.html 
 
On the apparent discovery of Noviomagus: 
 
http://www.smh.com.au:80/news/0008/04/text/pageone12.html 
 
EXHIBITIONS 
 
The Times has an excellent feature on the High Street Londinium exhibit at  
the Museum of London: 
 
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk:80/news/pages/tim/2000/08/02/timcrtcrt03003.html 
 
CNN has a good feature on the erotic art of Pompeii exhibit (warning: if  
you are unfamiliar with the subject matter of ancient Roman erotic art, you  
probably should not click on the following; if you are easily offended, you  
should not click on the following; if you are under 18, you should not  
click on the following; if an image of bestiality will cause you to spew  
your coffee (or worse), do not click on the following ... you've been warned!): 
 
http://www.cnn.com/2000/STYLE/arts/08/01/erotic.art/index.html 
 
REVIEWS 
 
The Independent has a review of Mary Beard's *The Invention of Jane Harrison*: 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/indy-buy/gbg/Independent_reviews/2000-07/harrison300700.shtml 
 
Archaeology Odyssey also has some new content, with online features on the  
Crusaders in Jerusalem, Zahi Hawass on the Barhariyah Oasis, the erotic art  
of Pompeii exhibit, and an obituary of Homer Thompson: 
 
http://www.bib-arch.org/aod2.html 
 
WEBSITES 
 
An accidental click of the mouse took me to the National Library of  
Medicine which, as it turns out, has a nice online exhibition of Islamic  
Medical Manuscripts. The following link takes you to the 'history of  
medicine' department which is worth poking around if you're looking for  
images of ancient medicine: 
 
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/hmd.html 
 
 
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