| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Nehalennia |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson <amgunn@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:02:29 -0500 |
|
Salve Vado,
Venii hic:
Nick Ford wrote:
>
> Salutem iterum
>
> Students of comparative Romano-Celto-Germanic religion should find this interesting, and I commend it to Fl. Vedius
> Germanicus, Vedia Serena and Venator in particular (it's written by two heathen friends who recently went to pay their
> respects to Nehalennia):
>
Quite right I found the pages of interest. I'm forwarding them to a couple of the Heathen lists to which I also
subscribe
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Tentative Nova Britannia event Oct. 14-15 |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:52:57 -0400 (EDT) |
|
Salvete, Cassia and Friends;
Unfortunately the listed dates for the tentative Nova Roma Event are
taken up by a Revolutionary War Event which has been in the planning
since last October. One of the problems with event planning where there
are a significant number of reenactors is the existance of some very
long term plan in effect (12 to 18 months in advance) In my case I will
be the British Invasion Commander and Military Govenor of the small town
being taken, so my presence is required throughout the weekend. My
apologies.
Valete, Respectfully;
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Advena. |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:20:52 -0400 (EDT) |
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Salve, Advena;
Perhaps a light olive oil for the protection and annointing of the skin.
In some cases an asbestos suit of armor for unannounced flame wars
(usually of short duration) and a variety of scented oils to draw the
gentler and more delicate members of our micronation to your side.
I suggest that you sit in the heavier veils of steam, to soften the soul
as well as the skin, and perhaps apply from time to time a salve of
patience until you learn the main players and all thier various
mannerisms (a wide variety), together with a powder of watchful demeanor
and neutral attitude.
I have always recommended to all Nova Romans a strong ointment which
limits verbal repartee of a course nature, and a soothing pot of
refreshment which calms the mind and renders immediate retaliation to
thoughtless comments unnecessary.
I hope that this array will render your visits pleasant and productive
as well as fulfilling for your purposes.
Vale, Respectfully;
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| From: |
" Sheridan" <legioix@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 03:51:43 -0000 |
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Avete.
On Monday I'll have the info about who Brian of brian@servisite
really
is, the Hollywood movie production company he works for, it's snail
mail address and other technical compouter info
He's spammed other Roman themed egroups with the same advertisement
info... even sent email directly to their personal email addresses.
Salvete,
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Need an opinion on a book |
| From: |
"Gaius Metellus Valentinus" <websurfer07@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:04:00 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes,
I'm looking for any opinions on a book I'm thinking of
purchasing. It's called "Love In Ancient Rome" by Pierre Grimal.
If anyone has read it, please send me any feedback.
I'm interested in reading on the personal and private aspects of
Roman life which include sex, marriage, prostitution, homosexuality,
sexual taboos, sex and religion etc. I would like to know if this
book would be relevant.
Also, if anyone has any other suggested reading on this
particular area of Roman life, please feel free to e-mail or post.
Gratias.
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Lykaion1@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:08:34 EDT |
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Excellent!
If a movie studio needs to resort to such pathetic "advertising", and if the
poster in question is representative of the quality of personel hired, then I
think we can expect a very low quality film. Perhaps even lower than
Pentehouse's CALIGULA.
Gaius Lupinius Festus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] online source for roman info |
| From: |
"c.p." <c_pontius@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:43:02 -0700 |
|
salvete,
I am not sure if this URL has already gone around but I found this site and
it is overwhelming in the amount of information found here. take a look:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook09.html
vale!
C. Pontius
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Nehalennia |
| From: |
Andy Pearson <andy.pearson@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:35:21 +0100 |
|
Vindex omnibus S P D
Just to add a quadrans' worth to the foregoing:
>Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:02:29 -0500
> From: Megas-Robinson <amgunn@-------->
>Subject:
>Salve Vado,
>Venii hic:
>Nick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Salutem iterum
>>
>> Students of comparative Romano-Celto-Germanic religion >>should find this
interesting, and I commend it to Fl. Vedius
>> Germanicus, Vedia Serena and Venator in particular (it's >>written by two
heathen friends who recently went to pay >>their
>> respects to Nehalennia):
>>
>Quite right I found the pages of interest. I'm forwarding >them to a couple
of the Heathen lists to which I also
>subscribe
>Mille Gratias - Venii
Nunc, Vindex:
True religionists may or may not be terribly interested, but anyone visiting
the Netherlands may like to know that is a prehistoric+roman+medieval 'theme
park' situated at Alphen aan den Rijn, just a few miles/kilometres/mille
passus east of Leiden. 'My' re-enactment unit, Legio Secunda Augusta,
recently spent four days there (and we were made to feel extraordinarily
welcome, too!).
One of the buildings in the Roman section is a small temple of Romano-Celtic
type, dedicated to Nehalennia. According to the temple staff, Nehalennia was
a fertility goddess who looked after the local people and also looked after
people returning from Britannia - so I, for one, hope to return next year!
There might be more information on the Archeon (the theme park's
name)website - my Dutch is even more deficient than my Latin, so I wouldn't
know. If you're interested, you can find it at:
http://www.archeon.nl/
Valete
Vindex
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Album Corrections |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:58:09 -0700 |
|
Ave
For any citizen that needs any correction please notify me privately or
via the censors@-------- addy.
Also, for all citizens, please send your pics to Marcus Octavius
Germanicus so he can post them on the Album. Please go and explore the
album now and see what some of your citizens look like! :)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Roman info |
| From: |
marcusaemiliusscaurus@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:53:24 -0000 |
|
Thanks, Pontius! That site you mentioned was excellent, and I
certainly didn't have the URL before now.
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
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| From: |
"Stephen Phenow" <q_fabius_max@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:31:21 PDT |
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>>Perhaps even lower than Pentehouse's CALIGULA.<<
Hey I liked Caligula! It was true to Suet. Description of the Roman
aristocracy under the Julio-Claudians.
Q. Fabius
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] 3rd century Legions |
| From: |
Caius Flavius Diocletianus <3s@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:55:15 +0200 |
|
Salve, Caius Ambrosias Valerius.
Thank you for your message. I´m sorry for my delay, but I´m a little short of
time.
There is one major problem regarding shield devices:
All shield devices, also those in the Notitia Dignitatum, are highly
speculative.
The Notitia´s shield devices were copied again and again from the 5th century
onwards and during the medieval age. No one knows if they were copied correctly,
but it´s very possible that they are not. I think that the colors of the devices
are nearly correct (you can´t make a great mistake there), but the figures on
the shields were surely often simplified or misunderstood.
Also, the Notitia shows shield devices from the early 5th century, the 3rd
century lays, as so often, in darkness. Furthermore, the devices are only
depicted for field armies, not for the frontier armies. I have a book which
depicts a few shield devices from the 3rd century, but of course, they are
speculative, too. Also, the units which belonged to this devices are not
mentioned. I will make some scans for you, but give me a few days.
Regarding the 2nd Adiutrix:
There are only some possible devices from the Notitia. The frontier legion II
Adiutirx has no device depicted. But it may be the mother unit for one of the
secundani legions and for the acincenses, Legio pseudocomitatenses in Gallia
(from "Aquincum"). But, I´m sorry, my new Notitia copy has no device for them
depicted.
I´m sorry that I can give you no more help.
Vale
Caius Flavius Diocletianus
Thomas Raisin schrieb:
> Dear Sir My name is Caius Ambrosias Valerius a Citizen of Nova Roma and a
> Roman military reenactor. I am intrested in the third century Roman legions.
> I seek your help in 3rd century shield devices for a Roman Legion ( OVAL
> SHAPE). I am interested in any military unit (legionary) device from the
> following areas of the empire. Britain and IIIyrica . Infantry only please.
> Also if you have the device of the II ADUTRIX which in the 3rd century was
> stationed in the Budapest area please let me know. Also if you have any
> pictures of scutums of the 3rd century please let me know. Thankyou
>
> Caius Ambrosias Valerius
>
> >From: Caius Flavius Diocletianus <3s@-------->
> >Reply-To: novaroma@--------
> >To: "NovaRomaVizantia@--------" <NovaRomaVizantia@-------->,
> >"novaroma@--------" <novaroma@-------->
> >Subject: [novaroma] 3rd century Legions
> >Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:35:10 +0200
> >
> >Caius Flavius Diocletianus Quiritibus S.P.D.
> >
> >
> >Another question to our military historians.
> >
> >Much is written about our famous ancient legions. One peak was reached
> >under Septimius Severus, when 33 legions were established. But, as much
> >we know about the legions of this time and the time before, as little is
> >know about the further developement in the 3rd century. So it´s
> >mentioned that the Legio III Augusta in North Africa was disbanded by
> >Gordianus.
> >
> >Some of my primary books about the later roman army are:
> >M. N. Nicasie: Twilight of Empire, Amsterdam 1998,
> >P. Southern and K. R. Dixon: The Late Roman Army, New Haven and London,
> >1996
> >R. S. Cromwell: The Rise and Decline of the Late Roman Field Army,
> >Shippensburg 1998,
> >B. Filow: Die Legionen der Provinz Moesia, Leipzig 1906.
> >
> >I´m very sorry, I have no access to the Notitia Dignitatum. But perhaps
> >a fellow citizen have.
> >
> >Nicasie writes that the numbers of legions slowly increased during the
> >3rd century up to about 60 when Diocletian came to power. The main
> >question now is:
> >
> >Which legions were raised during the 3rd Century and by Diocletian?
> >
> >Some are known:
> >
> >I Illyrica (or Illyricorum)
> >IV Martia (both Aurelian)
> >
> >I Iovia
> >II Herculia
> >VI Herculia
> >III Diocletiana
> >I Pontica
> >I Martia
> >
> >Some legions were drafted form exisiting units or newly established
> >(without a number):
> >Ioviani
> >Herculiani
> >Divitenses
> >Solenses
> >
> >Is it possible that if there were 2 Legions as II Herculia and VI
> >Herculia, that there were also a I, III, IV and V Herculia (also
> >possible for the units called Martia)?
> >
> >I´m very grateful for any help.
> >
> >Valete
> >Caius Flavius Diocletianus
> >
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: online source for roman info |
| From: |
"Little Dragon" <fionaerin@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:29:43 -0000 |
|
---Salve,
Thanks!! I'll take a look at it.
Vale
Aeternia
In novaroma@--------, "c.p." <c_pontius@u...> wrote:
> salvete,
> I am not sure if this URL has already gone around but I found this
site and
> it is overwhelming in the amount of information found here. take a
look:
>
> http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook09.html
>
> vale!
> C. Pontius
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Album Corrections |
| From: |
StarVVreck@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:03:10 EDT |
|
Salve Sulla,
I am Iulius Titinius Antonius, pater familias of the gens Titinia. I request
the following changes. My gens webpage SHOULD
http://members.tripod.com/RomanaImperia
INSTEAD of http://members.aol.com/EmperorTrajan/main.html
also I need to change my email address to Iulius@-------- as I am "dumping"
my current internet service.
In a message dated 8/14/00 4:44:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
alexious@-------- writes:
<< For any citizen that needs any correction please notify me privately or
via the censors@-------- addy. >>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Roman plays/theater |
| From: |
"pjane@-------- " <pjane@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:37:21 -0000 |
|
Greetings!
Does anyone here have any experience or knowledge of Roman theater?
I'm interested in trying to do scene readings at our next event. Can
anyone recommend good (performable) English translations of Roman
plays, or offer other related advice?
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Album Corrections |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:23:42 -0700 |
|
OK I will do it.
SF
StarVVreck@-------- wrote:
> Salve Sulla,
>
> I am Iulius Titinius Antonius, pater familias of the gens Titinia. I request
> the following changes. My gens webpage SHOULD
> http://members.tripod.com/RomanaImperia
> INSTEAD of http://members.aol.com/EmperorTrajan/main.html
> also I need to change my email address to Iulius@-------- as I am "dumping"
> my current internet service.
>
> In a message dated 8/14/00 4:44:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> alexious@-------- writes:
>
> << For any citizen that needs any correction please notify me privately or
> via the censors@-------- addy. >>
>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] How to get Brian@Servesite to stop spamming... |
| From: |
" Sheridan" <legioix@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:12:39 -0000 |
|
Here's the techno info on brian@--------:
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Address: 207.138.200.70
Aliases: www.braxusxx.com
Name: servsite.com
Address: 207.138.200.2
Registrant:
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12828 Victory Blvd.
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Record last updated on 24-Jun-2000.
Record expires on 24-Jun-2001.
Record created on 24-Jun-2000.
Database last updated on 6-Aug-2000 22:06:01 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Roman plays/theater |
| From: |
"Little Dragon" <fionaerin@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:23:36 -0000 |
|
---Greetings Patricia!!
You have my full attention so to speak, do you have any playwrights
in mind? I could suggest some Shakespeare plays, or were you looking
for something else?
Vale
Aeternia
In novaroma@--------, "pjane@j... " <pjane@j...> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> Does anyone here have any experience or knowledge of Roman theater?
> I'm interested in trying to do scene readings at our next event.
Can
> anyone recommend good (performable) English translations of Roman
> plays, or offer other related advice?
>
> Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Advena. |
| From: |
"j.mason4" <j.mason4@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:24:04 +0100 |
|
O TEMPORA ! O MORES ! :)(:
Yes, you are mercury or at least, his servant, to offer a stranger kind
words and a guiding hand. I shall now endeavour to make offerings to Mars,
that he wouldst shield me from the flames.Also to Saturn that he will
castigate my oppressors.
benevolentia.(Good will)
Structor.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jmath669642reng@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Advena.
> Salve, Advena;
>
> Perhaps a light olive oil for the protection and annointing of the skin.
> In some cases an asbestos suit of armor for unannounced flame wars
> (usually of short duration) and a variety of scented oils to draw the
> gentler and more delicate members of our micronation to your side.
>
> I suggest that you sit in the heavier veils of steam, to soften the soul
> as well as the skin, and perhaps apply from time to time a salve of
> patience until you learn the main players and all thier various
> mannerisms (a wide variety), together with a powder of watchful demeanor
> and neutral attitude.
>
> I have always recommended to all Nova Romans a strong ointment which
> limits verbal repartee of a course nature, and a soothing pot of
> refreshment which calms the mind and renders immediate retaliation to
> thoughtless comments unnecessary.
>
> I hope that this array will render your visits pleasant and productive
> as well as fulfilling for your purposes.
>
> Vale, Respectfully;
> Marcus Audens
>
> Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
>
> http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] your group |
| From: |
"Alex Gough" <alex.gough@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:39:29 +0100 |
|
Hi everyone. I have been lurking in your group for sometime now, and find it fascinating, the way you are trying to create a genuine Roman lifestyle with the distractions of a modern age. I also find the emotions, rivalries and attempts to preserve power a good recreation of Republican Rome. Much as I admire Rome, I'm not sure I would want to live there, but I can respect people who want the order and certainty that Rome (at least for much of its history) provided. Of course, there were plenty of civil wars in old Rome, like the year of four emperors AD69. Alan Massie has just written a book about this period, which is a coincidence, because my own Roman historical novel is set then. It has just been released, if you're interested you can find it at www.pulsarbooks.com/historical
Alex Gough
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Roman plays/theater |
| From: |
Marcus Papirius Justus <papirius@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:16:04 -0600 |
|
I'd suggest beginning at the Didaskalia site:
http://didaskalia.berkeley.edu/
Poke around the whole site, but especially look at the 'introduction to
ancient theatre' section; there's a place where you can watch a reading
such as you would like (from Euripides). If you'd like some 'performable'
versions of Euripides, go to:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/euripides.htm
If you'd like something more Roman (and not necessarily theatrical), you
can listen to a poem of Catullus at:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/catullus.htm
The same site has Vergil too:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/latin.htm
A bunch of Latin poetry in mp3 format:
http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~vnedeljk/VV/
A reading of a bit of the Iliad in translation (look for 'readings'):
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/literature/world_literature/homer.html
A small bit of the Aeneid (ditto):
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/literature/world_literature/virgil.html
... that should get you started (I have another site in mind but can't find
it!)
dm
At Monday 8/14/00 08:37 PM +0000, you wrote:
>Greetings!
>
>Does anyone here have any experience or knowledge of Roman theater?
>I'm interested in trying to do scene readings at our next event. Can
>anyone recommend good (performable) English translations of Roman
>plays, or offer other related advice?
>
>Patricia Cassia
>
>
>
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