| Subject: |
[novaroma] Election Results in Sodalitas Latinitatis |
| From: |
"M. Apollonius Formosanus" <bvm3@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:33:25 +0200 |
|
Salvete omnes Novoromani!
As the newly-elected Moderator (president) of the Sodalitas
Latinitatis, I would like to announce to the whole Nova Roman
community the results of our referendum, election and officer
selection:
I. The Lex Fundamentalis, the constitution of the Sodality was
overwhelmingly, indeed unanimously, approved.
II. Four Tresviri were elected (strange as that may sound :-) by the
membership.
III. The Tresviri in accordance with the Lex Fundamentalis divided up
the offices and duties among them as follows:
C. Cordius Symmachus: Magister Sermonis (list moderator), Redactor
C. Marius Merullus: Scriba, Redactor
Cn. Moravius Piscinus: Retiarius (webmaster), Rogator
M. Apollonius Formosanus: Moderator (president), Praeceptor (preparer
of didactic materials), Redactor
"Redactor" indicates persons selected for the quality of their Latin;
those who have Latin questions at any time might well address one of
these persons.
In addition, Scriba, Censor et Senator Merullus is in charge of the
project to produce a Latin translation of the Nova Roman website.
The present officers will serve until the end of February.
The elections now being finished, the Sodalitas is accepting new
members again. If you are interested, please contact Scriba Merullus
at c_marius_m@--------c_marius_m@-------- or one of his other
addresses. It is also helpful to join the Latinitas list at
http://www.egroups.com/group/latinitashttp://www.egroups.com/group/la.
(Simply joining the list does not make one a member of the Sodalitas,
please note.)
The Sodalitas Latinitatis intends, among other things, to:
i. Translate the NR website
ii. Produce its own website to attract and help Latinists in NR and
throughout the world.
iii. Begin to work with the pontifices to produce an improved corpus
of religious material for the Religio Romana.
iv. Prepare an on-line Latin course of the highest quality, capable
of serving as a free-standing introduction to living Latin for all
Nova Romans and all interested persons throughout the world with
internet access.
v. Help all individuals, officials and institutions in NR with their
Latin needs in terms of consultation, correction and information.
tinitas
vi. Begin to assemble the world's finest assemblage of links and
on-site materials to make NR a major world centre for Latinists on
the net and attract them into collaboration with NR (in coöperation,
where appropriate, with the Dodalitas Egressús).
Many other ideas for Latin education in NR and the establishment,
perhaps of the first known (to us) Latin on-line voice-chat room are
in the air, and we would appreciate everyone's suggestions.
We would like to thank the Senate and the People of Nova Roma for
your support thus far. We hope to be able to serve you and, above
all, that great gift to human unity, science and literature, the
Latin Language.
Vivat Nova Roma! Vivat Lingua Latina!
Valete!
Marcus Apollonius Formosanus
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae (http://www.crosswinds.net/~bvm3/)
Moderator et Praeceptor Sodalitatis Latinitatis; Scriba Censorius
ICQ# 61698049 Firetalk: Apollonius 1588367
AIM: MAFormosanus MSN: Formosanus
Civis Novae Romae in Silesia, Polonia
The Gens Apollonia is open to new members.
Ave nostra Respublica Libera - Nova Roma!
________________________________________
Si vis omnia tibi subicere, te subice Rationi. (Seneca)
(Se vi deziras subigi al vi chion, subigu vin al Racio)
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Nova Roma capital |
| From: |
cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:00:00 EDT |
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Salvete,
I'm afraid I'm only able to contribute to this thread very late - it's been
the busy season at work and a lot of wonderful posts on this subject have
gone through without my being able to comment!
In a message dated 8/20/00 3:20:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
c_pontius@-------- writes:
<< My appologies if we have no intention of looking to the day when we will be
a nation onto ourselves.
Cassius:
When Nova Roma was founded the intention was to rebuild a Roman culture in
which the entire world could participate. The concept of a Capital is fairly
well spelled out in our Declaration, which I hope all will forgive me for
posting verbatim:
"As a sovereign nation Nova Roma makes the following claim to various
international territories and rights:
We acknowledge ancient Roman territory to be our cultural and religious
homeland, and claim historical rights to all sites and territories which were
under the direct control or administration of the ancient Roman Republic and
Empire between 753 BCE and 395 CE.
We recognize the modern political realities which make the restoration of
such ancient lands to us impossible. Therefore we limit our active
territorial claim to an amount of land at least equal to that held by the
sovereign state of Vatican City; 108 contiguous acres. On this land a world
capital for the administration of our culture will be founded in the form of
a Forum Romanum. The exact site for this New Roman governmental and spiritual
capital is to be determined.
Further, in order that our world presence may be established, Nova Roma
claims our physical territory to be extant and manifest through those places
that our State, Citizens, and religious organizations may physically own,
occupy, and maintain throughout the world. These territories shall exist in a
status of Dual Sovereignty, being under the cultural and spiritual
administration of Nova Roma, even as they remain under the civil dominion and
laws of other hosting nations. Our pledge is to embody a benign and
beneficial cultural and spiritual influence throughout all societies, while
remaining politically neutral and lawful in action."
Pontius:
>Here is the first sentance of our constitution, which i hope you've read:
>"We, the Senate and People of Nova Roma, as an independent and sovereign
nation, herewith set forth this Constitution as the foundation and structure
of our governing institutions and common society."
Cassius:
As far as intent, Nova Roma does consider itself a sovereign nation. However,
we are also pragmatic... the chances of obtaining enough territory to have a
'country' with a full population in one place are astronomically remote. That
doesn't mean that Roman culture can't be a viable civilization, existing
internationally and being a positive and beneficial influence worldwide. I
personally think that a capital city in the form of a Forum Romanum somewhere
is a viable idea, even if perhaps one for the future. Vatican City has done
this and has 2,000 full time Citizens... and is also a focal point people
from many countries. It's an honorable and respectable concept.
Pontius:
> I did not mean for my emphasis on peace to lead you to think that I think we
ought to follow the revolutionary path.
Cassius:
I myself have not taken your words to mean that, so hopefully there is no
offense on any side. :)
Pontius:
Infact i simply want to state that we ought to look forward to and move
towards establishing ourselves as a power. This road is, as you say, a long
one and many of us may never see the outcome. I cannot speak for others in
Nova Roma, but i do want a Roman Nation. I would give up my US citizenship
if Nova Roma could provide what I need in a nation. However, again.. I do
not think this is the time to be thinking of these things.
Cassius:
During the process of establishing Nova Roma a great deal of research was
done on the history of Micronations, and the viability of small states.
Again, our odds of being able to build a full 'country' in the usual sense
(and in our lifetimes) was considered nonexistent. Reviving Roman culture
and building a worldwide capital are perhaps slightly smaller goals, yet they
are more achievable, less dangerous, and will work as well in the restoration
of the Pax Deorum.
Pontius:
> As you say the time is best to promote education of the Roman Republic. To
take in members and to do what we can to educate all that are willing.
However, I still think we should look to ataining power.
Cassius:
I think we might simply have a problem with semantics here. When you write
"attaining power" it conjures up images of us having a powerful military, and
going off on a path of conquest. I can't help but doubt that's what you're
really trying to say. My *guess* is that you're hoping that Nova Roma will
progressively become more real-world and less dependent on the Internet for
our existence.
I personally believe that this will happen. Nova Roma is growing at an ever
increasing rate, and while we all agree that the Internet is important for
communication it doesn't provide all aspects of community. We're putting more
and more effort into building the Provinciae, and that's a start to getting
people working together and not just having conversations over electronic
media.
Anyway, there has been no irritation on MY part, and I've found this
particular topic to be fascinating. I find the idea of Nova Roma having some
physical land and facilities somewhere to be a compelling concept and am
thrilled to hear from others on the subject. :)
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Senator
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] clarity provails |
| From: |
"j.mason4" <j.mason4@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:11:07 +0100 |
|
Salve,
Good people of Nova Roma,,thank you for the replies to my enquiries
Gods bless you all.
~~Structor~~
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma capital |
| From: |
"c.p." <c_pontius@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:38:39 -0700 |
|
I love you Marcus Cassius Julianus. =) you pretty much understood everything
i said. Great replies.. i do think that this will take a long time and i
in no way think that we ought to disobey any laws of any nations that we
hapen to live in. When i say 'gain power' i do mean in the future.. far
future.. when it is practical. i do not nessecarily mean raise a huge army
and begin conquest of other nations. Honestly if i were to think such a
thing i would seriously go see a psychologist.
I think we ought to work out a plan for a capital, even a temporary one if
needs be. If i had the money to purchase a good bit of land i would do so
and set it out as a temporary capitol. I want to do this anyway once I
obtain the funding.
My appologies to you Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix. I should have read your
sig and realised you would know your Nova Roman law. I meant no offense.
You just seemed to be saying that we were not soverign that we did not
really want a nation of our own someday and that this is some kind of game.
Appologies for the misunderstanding.
Valete,
C. Pontius
-----Original Message-----
From: cassius622@-------- [mailto:cassius622@--------]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 7:00 PM
To: novaroma@--------
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma capital
Salvete,
I'm afraid I'm only able to contribute to this thread very late - it's
been
the busy season at work and a lot of wonderful posts on this subject have
gone through without my being able to comment!
In a message dated 8/20/00 3:20:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
c_pontius@-------- writes:
<< My appologies if we have no intention of looking to the day when we
will be
a nation onto ourselves.
Cassius:
When Nova Roma was founded the intention was to rebuild a Roman culture in
which the entire world could participate. The concept of a Capital is
fairly
well spelled out in our Declaration, which I hope all will forgive me for
posting verbatim:
"As a sovereign nation Nova Roma makes the following claim to various
international territories and rights:
We acknowledge ancient Roman territory to be our cultural and religious
homeland, and claim historical rights to all sites and territories which
were
under the direct control or administration of the ancient Roman Republic
and
Empire between 753 BCE and 395 CE.
We recognize the modern political realities which make the restoration of
such ancient lands to us impossible. Therefore we limit our active
territorial claim to an amount of land at least equal to that held by the
sovereign state of Vatican City; 108 contiguous acres. On this land a
world
capital for the administration of our culture will be founded in the form
of
a Forum Romanum. The exact site for this New Roman governmental and
spiritual
capital is to be determined.
Further, in order that our world presence may be established, Nova Roma
claims our physical territory to be extant and manifest through those
places
that our State, Citizens, and religious organizations may physically own,
occupy, and maintain throughout the world. These territories shall exist
in a
status of Dual Sovereignty, being under the cultural and spiritual
administration of Nova Roma, even as they remain under the civil dominion
and
laws of other hosting nations. Our pledge is to embody a benign and
beneficial cultural and spiritual influence throughout all societies,
while
remaining politically neutral and lawful in action."
Pontius:
>Here is the first sentance of our constitution, which i hope you've read:
>"We, the Senate and People of Nova Roma, as an independent and sovereign
nation, herewith set forth this Constitution as the foundation and
structure
of our governing institutions and common society."
Cassius:
As far as intent, Nova Roma does consider itself a sovereign nation.
However,
we are also pragmatic... the chances of obtaining enough territory to have
a
'country' with a full population in one place are astronomically remote.
That
doesn't mean that Roman culture can't be a viable civilization, existing
internationally and being a positive and beneficial influence worldwide. I
personally think that a capital city in the form of a Forum Romanum
somewhere
is a viable idea, even if perhaps one for the future. Vatican City has
done
this and has 2,000 full time Citizens... and is also a focal point people
from many countries. It's an honorable and respectable concept.
Pontius:
> I did not mean for my emphasis on peace to lead you to think that I
think we
ought to follow the revolutionary path.
Cassius:
I myself have not taken your words to mean that, so hopefully there is no
offense on any side. :)
Pontius:
Infact i simply want to state that we ought to look forward to and move
towards establishing ourselves as a power. This road is, as you say, a
long
one and many of us may never see the outcome. I cannot speak for others
in
Nova Roma, but i do want a Roman Nation. I would give up my US
citizenship
if Nova Roma could provide what I need in a nation. However, again.. I do
not think this is the time to be thinking of these things.
Cassius:
During the process of establishing Nova Roma a great deal of research was
done on the history of Micronations, and the viability of small states.
Again, our odds of being able to build a full 'country' in the usual
sense
(and in our lifetimes) was considered nonexistent. Reviving Roman culture
and building a worldwide capital are perhaps slightly smaller goals, yet
they
are more achievable, less dangerous, and will work as well in the
restoration
of the Pax Deorum.
Pontius:
> As you say the time is best to promote education of the Roman Republic.
To
take in members and to do what we can to educate all that are willing.
However, I still think we should look to ataining power.
Cassius:
I think we might simply have a problem with semantics here. When you write
"attaining power" it conjures up images of us having a powerful military,
and
going off on a path of conquest. I can't help but doubt that's what you're
really trying to say. My *guess* is that you're hoping that Nova Roma will
progressively become more real-world and less dependent on the Internet
for
our existence.
I personally believe that this will happen. Nova Roma is growing at an
ever
increasing rate, and while we all agree that the Internet is important for
communication it doesn't provide all aspects of community. We're putting
more
and more effort into building the Provinciae, and that's a start to
getting
people working together and not just having conversations over electronic
media.
Anyway, there has been no irritation on MY part, and I've found this
particular topic to be fascinating. I find the idea of Nova Roma having
some
physical land and facilities somewhere to be a compelling concept and am
thrilled to hear from others on the subject. :)
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Senator
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Romolo - Fondazione di Roma |
| From: |
"Marcus Attilius Regulus " <m.morgantini@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:09:25 -0000 |
|
Marcus Attilius omnibus salutem dicit.
(sempre gradita la traduzione , grazie per la preziosa
collaborazione)
Cari cittadini ed amici,
mentre Roma è invasa pacificamente da due milioni di giovani
pellegrini in occasione del Giubileo della gioventù , ho tovato il
tempo di visitare sia la Villa dei Quintili ,(spero che la mia breve
relazione sia stata di vostro interesse )sia la Mostra "Romolo e
Remo-La fondazione della Città.Questa mostra è di importanza
culturale pari a quella del 1988 dedicata alla Grande Roma dei
Tarquini.
Si occupa del periodo legato alla nascita dell'Urbe rivelando tutte
le novità della ricerca storica ed archeologica effettuate negli
ultimi anni.
La mostra si tiene fino al 10 ottobre presso il Museo Nazionale
Romano -Terme di Diocleziano. Questa struttura museale è stata
innagurata lo scorso 28 giugno dopo anni di ristrutturazione .
La Mostra è curata dal Prof. Andrea Carandini , direttore del
Dipartimento di archeologia dell'Università di Roma .
In questa mia prima relazione introduttiva mi è impossibile
entrare nel dettaglio e nel particolare di ogni singola sezione della
esposizione. Quindi vi accennerò in termini generali sulle mie
impressioni a seguito della visita.
La prima sensazione che ho provato è quella di profonda
soddisfazione nel constatare che la scienza ha fatto passi concreti
nella ricerca e nell'indagine su un periodo così oscuro e
misterioso come i Primordia Civitatis.
A scuola , fin dalle classi elementari , ci è stato insegnato che
la fase arcaica della nascita dell'Urbe e dei primi sviluppi e
solamente frutto di miti e pura fantasia . Che questa visione storica
sia falsa lo sapevo da molti anni , grazie agli studi e le ricerche
di grandi storici quali Arnaldo Momigliano ,Massimo Pallottino
,Alexandre Grandazzi ,e molti altri che hanno dedicato la loro vita di
scienziati alla ricerca senza pregiudizi.
I risultati ,cari amici, sono straorinari!Mai avrei pensato di poter
vedere con i miei occhi una mostra curata dall'Università di Roma
, patrocinata dal Ministero dei Beni Culturali e dal Comune di Roma ,
che espone teorie ritenute ,fino a qualche tempo fà , solo
fantasie di nostalgici romanisti. Ormai la scienza , sia tramite la
critica storica che mediante le ricerche archeologiche , è giunta
a conclusioni che confortano ,in larghissima misura , le aspettative
dettate dalla tradizione millenaria.
"La tradizione è un seguito di menzogne , con qualche verità" ,
questa era l'opinione della scienza fino a pochi anni fà. Oggi la
situazione è ribaltata: " La tradizione è veritiera ,salvo
qualche menzogna".
Sono certo che ognuno di voi comprende la diversità di veduta del
problema. Io non sono un credente fideistico, la mia cultura
illuministica mi lega alla ricerca della verità non alla sua
rivelazione. quindi potete facilmente immaginare la mia soddisfazione.
I signori Alfoldi , Ettore Pais ,Gjerstadt sono serviti!! Gli
ipercritici sono battuti su tutta la linea è per loro una disfatta
pari a quella di Waterloo per Napoleone! E per quanto mi riguarda
,senza neanche l'onore delle armi!
Ho acquistato un voluminoso ( e carissimo!) catalogo della mostra ,
nelle mie prossime comunicazioni farò in modo di condividere con
voi il percorso , che partendo dal periodo di Lavinio ci portrà
fino alla conclusione del regno romuleo.
- Enea e Lavinio.
- Alba Longa.
- La genealogia di Romolo.
- I gemelli.
- Il rito di Fondazione della Città.
- Il solco primigenio ed il pomerio.
- I primi sviluppi della Città.
Mi auguro che il mio lavoro sia di vostro gradimento; sarò lieto
di ricevere vostre osservazioni ,contributi ,domande ed anche le
vostre critiche!
Ad maiora!
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ATTN: Antonius Gryllus Graecus is back |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:19:17 +0100 |
|
Salvete
I'm back from holidays and ready to resume my activities. Nevertheless, my
Internet access is still limited, which prevents me from doing my job as
webmaster. Once the technician comes from holidays and this situation is
normalised, I shall take the burden from the back of Marcus Octavius
Germanicus, to whom I'm very grateful for his wonderful job.
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ATTN [Religio Romana] ante diem XII Kalendas Septembres (August 21) |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:45:49 +0100 |
|
Salvete omnes
This is a dies nefastus publicus (NP), a day for special religious
observance on which no legal action or public business can take place.
Today is the Consualia, the festival of Consus which takes place at the
Circus Maximus, where His altar stands covered with earth in all days of the
year except the Consualia and during horse races. Other deities associated
with cereals are also honoured: Seia, Segetia (or Segesta), Messia
(Goddesses of seeds and harvest), Tutulina (Who preserves the cereals). But
Consus is here specially associated with Ops, the Goddess of provisions. The
celebrations are presided by the Flamen Quirinalis.
On this day, all equine beasts of burden are given vacation from labours and
decked with garlands.
Remind that this was the day of the rape of the Sabine women, an event
associated with the burried altar of Consus which served as the bait. After
finding the altar, Romulus invited the Sabines to attend a feast in honour
of Consus, expecting that their amazement with the progress of the works in
the new city would make them consent the marriage between their daughters
and the Romans. Seeing that this was not accomplished, Romulus ordered the
kidnap and rape of the Sabine women, an act that started a war between the
Romans and the sorrounding communities. But the war was eventually stopped
and Romans and Sabines became one nation.
Pax Deorum vobiscum
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: ATTN: Antonius Gryllus Graecus is back |
| From: |
"Little Dragon" <fionaerin@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:47:29 -0000 |
|
---Salve,
Welcome Back! I hope you enjoyed your holiday.
Vale
Aeternia
In novaroma@--------, "Antonio Grilo" <amg@c...> wrote:
> Salvete
>
> I'm back from holidays and ready to resume my activities.
Nevertheless, my
> Internet access is still limited, which prevents me from doing my
job as
> webmaster. Once the technician comes from holidays and this
situation is
> normalised, I shall take the burden from the back of Marcus Octavius
> Germanicus, to whom I'm very grateful for his wonderful job.
>
> Valete
> Antonius Gryllus Graecus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Ancient romans |
| From: |
"Marcos Boehme" <m_arminius@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:48:13 -0300 |
|
Ave, omnes
I'm searching for images and bios of some ancient romans that are difficult to found.
They are:
Romulus
Appius Claudius Caecus
Horatius Cocles
Lucius Q Cincinnatus
M Furius Camillus
P Scipio Africanus
If someone have images or know where i can found it, please email me. Thanks.
Marcus Arminius Maior
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Return of the Wanderer |
| From: |
"M. Apollonius Formosanus" <bvm3@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:42:37 +0200 |
|
M. Apollonius Formosanus L. Mario Fimbriae et Quiritibus S.P.D.
That Lucius Marius Fimbria has returned to us officially (or will
have as soon as the senior censor has completed the paperwork) is a
matter of which Marius and Nova Roma can be proud. Although hounded
by blatantly unjust laws and official decisions that weighed more
heavily upon him than upon any other civis among us, his deep and
abiding love of Nova Roma and outstanding Romanitas have brought this
man dear to many of us back into the fold.
Not so very long ago I reported here (after the Taverna Spying
Incident) about my attempts to bring reconciliation between the
senior censor and Marius. Marius was persuaded graciously to
apologise for any wrongs done the censor (which I myself do not
believe to have existed), and Sulla agreed to my satisfaction (at the
time) that he would treat the name change procedures of Marius in a
reasonable, normal, legal way. I am sorry to say that the present
return of Marius is NOT the result of such a process of
reconciliation as I had worked for.
Following this apparent understanding and reconciliation, the senior
censor indeed proceeded with the processing of the application, but
in such a way that the Edictum de Nominibus Mutandis was interpreted
to mean in practice that Marius would have to spend hundreds of
dollars in fees and scores of hours of labour, as well as present
hundreds of pages (!) of personal and confidential medical documents.
That such an unreasonable effort was required to change four to six
letters of his name to match his true spiritual sex explains why he
chose to come back by another route in the meantime.
For this Edictum could be interpreted leniently and helpfully, or
with the most extreme and obstructive rigour. The senior censor has
chosen the second path and, so interpreted, the level of harassment
involved is utterly unconscienable. IMHO Marius is from a legal point
of view returning as a new civis and should have the normal right of
making a statement of personal sex/gender in accordance with his
perceptions and conscience, and electing a name accordingly. The
whole matter is, therefore, anomalous.
Be that as it may, this is not only a fight of one civis for dignity
and recognition under his true sex, a fight which he will eventually
win due to his persistence and fortitude. It is even more importantly
an issue that lies before all of us as Nova Romans: are we willing to
tolerate a law that forces a person to spend hundreds of dollars and
endless hours, and to produce a ream of confidential documents
probably uninterpretable by the censor as a medical layman - just to
change his name?
The Consitution purports to protect against discrimination on the
basis of gender or sexual orientation in accordance with the norms in
civilised states. However, it is general in nature and does not
mention the rights of transgendered or transgendering individuals
specifically. Such details (as is normal) were left up to the good
judgement of the magistrates, Senate and People of Nova Roma.
Unfortunately, the person most responsible, basically acting alone
and without taking public advice in advance, created a law and
administered it in a manner indeed imposing unreasonable burdens on
certain cives in accordance with the status of their sexuality.
This law must sooner or later be replaced by better and more
reasonable legislation having broader active public and official
backing and free from discriminatory provisions. I intend to devote
as much of my future political life in Nova Roma as necessary to this
effort.
.
This issue is far from over, and will never be so until we both have
justice in this sphere and *effective* safeguards in place to insure
that a single magistrate is not able to create laws of such injustice
in the name of Nova Roma, which means us all and affects the honour
of us all.
Sulla as Propraetor of California recently solliced advice in
connection with a proposed edictum, and when the advice was
universally negative, he wisely withdrew it before promulgation. This
statesmanlike act would seem to bode very well for the future, but
his past censorial Gender Edictum and its successor were not put up
for consultations - and he has been exploiting the most extreme
interpretations of the later version in a manner that only confirms
their unreasonableness and danger to aequitas. These provisions of
the law do nothing for the good of Nova Roma - rather they have been
used to keep one very witty, warm and articulate civis from returning
to the Nova Roma he loves with the dignity of having his true name
rightly registered in the Album Civium.
Therefore, I welcome back my friend Lucius Marius Fimbria, a person
who has given much to Nova Roma and still has much to give - but I
mourn that the day when he and others like him can register their
true Roman names officially without bureaucratic malevolence is not
yet here. Together we must do something about this.
Valete!
Marcus Apollonius Formosanus
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae (http://www.crosswinds.net/~bvm3/)
Moderator et Praeceptor Sodalitatis Latinitatis; Scriba Censorius
ICQ# 61698049 Firetalk: Apollonius 1588367
AIM: MAFormosanus MSN: Formosanus
Civis Novae Romae in Silesia, Polonia
The Gens Apollonia is open to new members.
Ave nostra Respublica Libera - Nova Roma!
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Re: [novaroma] Re: Return of the Wanderer |
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| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:18:52 EDT |
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In a message dated 8/21/00 3:06:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bvm3@--------
writes:
<< blatantly unjust laws >>
Which "unjust laws" are you referring to?
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Veni Vidi Vici |
| From: |
"j.mason4" <j.mason4@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:41:03 +0100 |
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Salvete, ERIT GLORIA ( There will be glory )
I suggest that gaining the publics approval and support would be the first step in any moves to a Nova Roma Capitol.People become suspicious of groups involved in clandestine activities, perhaps a political party would not necessarily gain any power.However it would make public the ideas and philosophy behind NR, you may even gain some extra support.
Perhaps a front man for the campaign would be a good idea, a well known face of a celebrity. I thought Marlon Brando he has an empirical air and would win the public over with his masterful method.
He could be our modern interpretation of Nero, patron of the arts and champion of the cause.
Benevolentia
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] [Fwd: [RomanDaysWest] FAQ] |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:01:27 -0700 |
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Ave,
I wanted to post this so that everyone within the California Provincia and
in Nova Roma at large will be able to view this FAQ.
I would like to thank Gaius Valerius Tacitus Hibernicus, for answering my
questions. If I get more information, I shall definately pass this
information.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Proconsul of California
Sheridan wrote:
> Q: What do I need to do to register and what are the fees?
>
> SCA Registration. Attendees must register with the SCA for the Great
> Western War. Info and registration forms can be located at
> "http://fellwalker.com/GWW/prereg.html" http://fellwalker.com/GWW/
> prereg.html. Basically, registrations fees are as follows:
>
> SITE FEES: (Make checks payable to SCA, Inc./Kingdom of Caid)
> Arriving Tuesday - Thursday: $28.00
> Arriving Friday or after: $22.00
> Children (6 to 14 yrs) arriving Tuesday - Thursday: $15.50 ea. 4th or
> more free!
> Children (6 to 14 yrs) arriving Friday of after: $12.50 ea. 4th or
> more
> free!
> Children 5 years old and younger are free.
>
> Pre-registration is required to gain access to the site on Tuesday,
> October 3rd. No Exceptions. All others will be turned away.
>
> Pre-registrations must be received (NOT postmarked) by September 1,
> 2000.
> Registration is also available for a higher fee at the door.
>
> Direct further questions re the SCA fees to:
> "Sandra W. Jaqua" <jaqua@-------->
>
> Q: Also, do we, as Nova Romans have to register if we are NOT apart
> of
> the SCA?
> A: Yes, everyone regardless of club or group affiliation must pay to
> get in.
>
> Q: Where are the nearest airports/bus station?
> A: Nearest airport is Ontario CA
>
> Q: What is a list of recommended hotels in the area?
> A: There is none.
> Several Nova Romans are staying at:
> Comfort Inn Airport South
> 2301 S. Euclid Ave.
> Ontario CA United States 91762
> Phone Number: 800-228-5150
>
> Q: Where can I find a good map of the area?
> A: AAA, online maps are also adequate.
>
> Q: I'm not a member of the military groups. Can I still camp there?
> A: Yes you can camp there in fact it is requested of you. The more
> the
> merrier!
>
> Q: If so, what do I need to bring?
> A: Any and all camping gear to make your stay comfortable. Tent, cot,
> sleepong bag, chair, eating utensils, lantern, insect repellent,
> sunscreen, personal items for bathing and hygeine etc If you choose
> to
> eat with the 9th Legion Cocina you do not need food prep items
>
> Q: What is the Cocina?
> The 9th Legion sets up a Cocina (camp kitchen). In addition to paying
> a
> flat fee for meals Friday through Monday (usually about $30 which
> includes the $5 per person firewood) everyone volunteers to cook or
> clean or help out in the Cocina. We have one formal sit down meal
> Saturday evening. This meal will have a Roman theme.
> Ther will be a more comprehensive post later.
>
> Q: Do I have to register for the Cocina if I'm not camping?
> A: Only if you are eating with the Cocina. An announcement will
> appear
> about 2 weeks before the event with the name and address of the
> Cocina
> organizer
>
> Q: Can I register for just the Saturday night banquet at the Cocina?
> A: Yes. The fee is usually about $7, but does not include the cost of
> firewood.
>
> Q: Firewood?
> A: We usually buy a cord of firewood for use by the entire Camp. The
> will be anywhere from one to 6 fore braziers going at one time. The
> cost is $5 per person and is included in the Cocina fee.
>
> Q: Will there be a central pavilion where Nova Romans can gather at
> any
> time?
> A: Yes. We call it the Praetorium, a large white tent. It is
> available
> for everyone
>
> Q: What is the schedule of events?
> A: The Schedule is still being worked on.
> A lot of what will occur depends upon participation and interest.
> Right now we have a couple of military marches and drills planned.
> Armor making workshop.
> Pila tossing.
> Catapult shooting.
> Sprang net bag weaving.
> Card weaving class.
> Roman camp food class with a focus on what's available on the grocery
> store shelf.
>
> Other classes and idea are in the works. If you have an interest or
> an
> idea please let us know!
>
> In addition to those classes we will teach directed towards things
> Roman the SCA also offers a wide variety of classes covering a myriad
> of subjects. As soon as that class schedule is available we will post
> it here.
>
> Q: What else is there to do?
> A: There is a large "Merchant's Row" with 100 plus vendors selling a
> variety of items. The SCA fighting is dramatic. Cheer the Romans on!
> You can volunteer to help out with the entire event. Volunteer sign
> ups
> are available at the check in gate. The evenings are usully taken up
> with sitting about the camp fire(s), visiting other camps, music,
> dance...
>
> Q:Will there be a Religio ceremony?
> A: Yes, if we want one.
>
> Q: Do I have to dress in Roman clothes?
> A: Yes, or clothes of a culture related to the Roman Empire. Mundane
> clothes are generally prohibited. You are expected to wear historic
> clothes from wakeup until bedtime.
>
> Q: Help! I don't have any Roman clothes! What now?
> A: Roman clothes are just too easy.
> Try this site for ideas:
> http://www.uky.edu/AS/Classics/slides/selectshow.html
>
> Q: What is the weather like at this time of year?
> Day temp.... 60 - 90
> Night temp ... 35 - 50
> Nights are often foggy, rain is rare.
>
> Q:What is the Agenda on Friday, Saturday and Sunday?
> A: Arrival day for most participants, though some of us will be there
> as early as Tuesday!
> In general:
> Friday evening: Meet and greet party
> Saturday: classes, banquet
> Sunday: classes
>
>
>
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