| Subject: |
[novaroma] Please join me in welcoming another member to Gens Flacca |
| From: |
"Oppius Flaccus Severus" <oppiusflaccus@--------> |
| Date: |
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:12:42 -0800 |
|
Salvete Quiritibus!
It is with great honor that I come before you again
and welcome the newest member of the Gens Flacca.
Many of you may have already seen her post in the past
couple of days.
Her name is Gaia Flacca Severa, and she hails to us from
the city of Portland, OR in the America Boreoccidentalis
province. Like Scipio Flaccus before her, I believe that she will
be an excellent not only to our gens, but to Nova Roma
as well. Please join me in welcoming her to the fold.
Welcome mi filia!
Bene valete,
Oppius Flaccus Severus, Paterfamilias Gens Flacca
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Please join me in welcoming another member to Gens Flacca |
| From: |
SlymnestraRose@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:16:37 EST |
|
Ave,
Congrats to you and Salonina both on your newest addition. Welcome to Nova
Roma Gaia!
Vale,
Aeternia
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Sodalitas Musarum Website -Version 1.0 Released |
| From: |
SlymnestraRose@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:07:19 EST |
|
Ave,
Oppius it's lovely....My thanks to you and everyone who helped you... But
there is no need to thank me, Pompeia and Draco were the ones who really kept
it together :-).
Vale,
Aeternia
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: New NR Live Chat is Excellent! :) |
| From: |
octavianuslucius@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:09:20 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes
I just tried the new chat and I like it. I agree with Consul
Julianus' post. It is indeed much safer than the older one.
Nice job curator araneum Octavius!!
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
--- In novaroma@--------, cassius622@a... wrote:
> Salvete,
>
> Last night I was able to spend half an hour or so in the new Nova
Roma Live
> Chat area designed by Marcus Octavius Germanicus at:<A
HREF="http://www.novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat">
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat</A>
>
> What can I say but WOW!!!! The chat has eliminated virtually all
of the
> problems that we've had with the Beseen.com chatroom linked through
the
> NovaRoma site.
> I don't believe I know all the good features of this new chat, but
here are a
> few:
>
> I. Everyone logged on is "visible" on a list, so no one can "lurk"
and just
> listen to conversation.
>
> II. Nobody can pretend to be anyone else, since all Citizens log on
with
> their own ID number, (which you set up on your own entry in the
Album Civium
> page on the NR website).
>
> III. As far as I know, the new chat will be far better protected
from
> "hackers" trying to post disruptive messages.
>
> IV. You can send "private" messages to other folks in the chat
*without the
> other participants seeing that you've done this*! In the Beseen
chat, a
> message would pop up saying "so and so whispers to so and so".
This was very
> disruptive. Every time you whispered to somebody it always looked
like you
> were being impolite, perhaps even trading comments about the other
> participants. Trouble was most folks were trying to BE polite, by
not
> crowding the list with trivial chat like "Did you get my email
about that
> delightful Roman pheasant recipe?" These private messages show up
in bright
> yellow boxes, so that neither you or the person you send to get
confused.
>
> V. In the new chat, folks *complete* Roman name is visible. MUCH
better than
> "chat handles", where you could never quite figure out who many
folks were.
>
> VI. Your messages in the new chat show up in outlined boxes, making
it far
> easier to separate who's said what.
>
> VII. Octavius says folks will still be able to log on as "guests",
so that
> prospective new Citizens can still check us out by talking to
Citizens in
> 'real time'.
>
> There may even be a few more features that I didn't check out, or
am
> forgetting to mention. The point is that Nova Roma now has a
dependable chat
> that is fun to use, and that eliminates most if not all of the
problems that
> made the old chat unpleasant!
>
> I imagine the new chat will be linked to the "Forum Romanum" page
on the main
> website soon. In the meantime, I hope that Octavius will be able to
leave the
> link above up until that happens, so that more folks can check out
this new
> resource!
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
> Consul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] To those faring away |
| From: |
Piparskegg UllRsson <catamount_grange@--------> |
| Date: |
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:38:35 -0600 |
|
Avete,
I haven't commented much in the past within the discussions,
which may or may not have led to the several Cives leaving the New City.
I offer this to speed their journeys, though.
I would ask that, those who are in contact with any who have left,
pass this on, please.
-Faring Away-
>From Venator in Amicitia
I say fare well, to friends unmet
On placid seas, through stormy swells
Our ships have paced, each other's paths
But now the time, for parting comes
My course remains, take ship to Rome
Your path is too, by other routes
Our dreams at base, are so alike
A dream of Her, whose Spirit calls
But different, too much, somehow
And crew tempers, have flared and sparked
Too many times, set sails alight
With bitter words, beyond recall
So travel safe, upon your way
I ask your words, of blessing too
And send a note, from time to time
Your health I'll drink, and wish you luck
For journey's worth, is not all mine
The treasured goal, is Romans' all
And at the end, of voyage long
I think we'll see, we're all at home
--
===========================================
Venator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Ave Marcus Minucius Audens |
| From: |
"Pompeia Cornelia" <scriba_forum@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 16 Mar 2001 04:47:43 -0000 |
|
Salve Marce Minuci:
I could carry on a while about the reasons why I respect you so much, and
how very happy I am to associate with you in Nova Roma endeavors, but I
don't have to; you have more than adequately displayed your virtue and
concern for citizens, past and present,in your most recent post.
Pompeia
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] A new member (I hope) |
| From: |
Pwyancey@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:23:13 EST |
|
Ave, Welcome to Nova Roma Gaia flacca Severa. I have not been as active a citizen as I would have hoped, but I have always enjoyed reading the various emails and visit the Nova Roma website regularly to keep up with developments in the community. I am sure that you will find Your involvement with nova Roma as pleasurable and rewarding as I have, Best Wishes to You, Ti. Calpurnius Pictor
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] RE: [off-list] Stepping Forward |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:54:20 -0500 |
|
Salve;
Perhaps a good start would be to reply to the private email I sent you a
couple of days ago.
Vale,
Fl Vedius Germanicus,
Consul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: V_Praetoria@-------- [mailto:V_Praetoria@--------]
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:45 AM
> To: novaroma@--------
> Subject: [novaroma] Stepping Forward
>
>
> Avete Omnes,
>
> Greetings brothers and sisters. With the rash of resignations,
> allegations, threats, and insults, we have achieved a great dream.
> We have created the Roman Republic. Congratulations. But is this
> what we wanted? I agree with Quintus Augustus, a list should be
> compiled of what positions need to be filled. I personally wish to
> become active in a political sense. As the founder of the RHS, I
> hope to start working on a compact with Nova Roma, to make the two
> entities mutually work together. So with this letter, I once again
> step forward to offer my assistance, aid, and honor to build Nova
> Roma into the greatest Society ever. This are not boasts, but rather
> passionate feelings. We have the opportunity to encourage, inspire,
> and lead our citizens into a new Golden Age. But we will need strong
> leaders, ones who will stand up against the "mob", and remain
> vigilant and honest. We must embrace new ideas, remove dogmatic
> attitudes, and always move forward. The average cive is our life
> blood. Those are who we should be working for. If we just think of
> Nova Roma as a forum for Roman enthusiasts, then thats all it will
> ever be. As the founder of the Roman Historical Society, I have
> taken a small group of individuals with little or no knowledge of
> Rome, and made then literate and skilled soldiers. I have gone non-
> profit, and I am awaiting a grant that would help procure reading
> materiel, armor, standards, and cover the costs of reserving space so
> I can take the RHS to the public. My credentials speak for
> themselves. I hope this letter shows my passion and enthusiasm for
> what Nova Roma can be, what it will be.
>
> Alea jacta est, dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.
>
> Pontius Sejanus Marius
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] A new morning... |
| From: |
SlymnestraRose@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:06:43 EST |
|
Salve,
I'm sorry, I think I really misconstrued my post as usual....Draco's right
and there even Sodalitas' I've never heard of.....
Vale,
Aeternia
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|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Welcome Novus Flacci |
| From: |
"Pompeia Cornelia" <scriba_forum@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:41:04 -0000 |
|
Salvete:
....a warm welcome to the new members of the Gens Flacca. May you enjoy
your new family and the community of Nova Roma. Ave!
Pompeia Cornelia
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] The Proconsul of California speaks |
| From: |
sfp55@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:47:20 EST |
|
Salvete Citizens of Rome.
I must apologize to you all for my calling the former Roman Piscinus a
derogatory name on this list.
In my new found relief, I allowed myself a personal moment and my enthusiasm
got the better of me. Those who know me, know that this rarely happens.
However because it did, it caused unnecessary problems in an already tense
situation.
It will not happen again and I hope all of Rome accepts that it happened in a
moment
of weakness, is not my usual demeanor and I will strive to do better.
Thank you for listening.
Valete
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] The Proconsul of California speaks |
| From: |
"Quintus Sertorius" <quintus-sertorius@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 05:49:11 -0600 |
|
Salve Senator, your apology reminds us all that we are human, and share
human strengths and weaknesses. Hey, but guess what, that's OK!
QS
----- Original Message -----
From: <sfp55@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 3:47 AM
Subject: [novaroma] The Proconsul of California speaks
> Salvete Citizens of Rome.
> I must apologize to you all for my calling the former Roman Piscinus a
> derogatory name on this list.
>
> In my new found relief, I allowed myself a personal moment and my
enthusiasm
> got the better of me. Those who know me, know that this rarely happens.
> However because it did, it caused unnecessary problems in an already tense
> situation.
> It will not happen again and I hope all of Rome accepts that it happened
in a
> moment
> of weakness, is not my usual demeanor and I will strive to do better.
> Thank you for listening.
> Valete
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] The Proconsul of California speaks |
| From: |
Christer Edling <tjalens.h@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:39:01 +0100 |
|
>Salvete Citizens of Rome.
>I must apologize to you all for my calling the former Roman Piscinus a
>derogatory name on this list.
>
>In my new found relief, I allowed myself a personal moment and my enthusiasm
>got the better of me. Those who know me, know that this rarely happens.
>However because it did, it caused unnecessary problems in an already tense
>situation.
>It will not happen again and I hope all of Rome accepts that it happened in a
>moment
>of weakness, is not my usual demeanor and I will strive to do better.
>Thank you for listening.
>Valete
Salve Pater!
I found the Dignitas of our gens, gens Fabia, diminished by your harsh
words! Now I accept your apology and declare that You in my eyes have done
all that is possible to restore our Dignitas! I will once again join You in
working for our beloved Res Publica and the growth of the Dignitas and
Auctoritas of gens Fabia!
Vale
Christer Edling
alias
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Quaestor of Nova Roma
Accensus to Consul Marcus Cassius Julianus
cives Provincia Thule
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an offical opinion of Nova Roma
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
************************************************
SHAMALI SALUKIS
************************************************
CAMELOT ROLEPLAYING WORKSHOP
Robert Andersson & Christer Edling
************************************************
IF GAMES - If reality was different!
Markus Sundbom & Christer Edling
************************************************
MAIN E-MAIL ADDRESS: tjalens.h@--------
************************************************
PRIVATE PHONE: +90 - 10 09 10
DOG BOARDING HOUSE PHONE: +90 - 503 56
MOBILE: +70 - 643 88 80
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] The Proconsul of California speaks |
| From: |
Christer Edling <tjalens.h@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:39:41 +0100 |
|
>Salvete Citizens of Rome.
>I must apologize to you all for my calling the former Roman Piscinus a
>derogatory name on this list.
>
>In my new found relief, I allowed myself a personal moment and my enthusiasm
>got the better of me. Those who know me, know that this rarely happens.
>However because it did, it caused unnecessary problems in an already tense
>situation.
>It will not happen again and I hope all of Rome accepts that it happened in a
>moment
>of weakness, is not my usual demeanor and I will strive to do better.
>Thank you for listening.
>Valete
Salve Pater!
Well done!
Vale
Christer Edling
alias
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Quaestor of Nova Roma
Accensus to Consul Marcus Cassius Julianus
cives Provincia Thule
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an offical opinion of Nova Roma
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
************************************************
SHAMALI SALUKIS
************************************************
CAMELOT ROLEPLAYING WORKSHOP
Robert Andersson & Christer Edling
************************************************
IF GAMES - If reality was different!
Markus Sundbom & Christer Edling
************************************************
MAIN E-MAIL ADDRESS: tjalens.h@--------
************************************************
PRIVATE PHONE: +90 - 10 09 10
DOG BOARDING HOUSE PHONE: +90 - 503 56
MOBILE: +70 - 643 88 80
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: To those faring away |
| From: |
"Marcus Cassius Julianus" <cassius622@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:44:55 -0000 |
|
Salvete,
What can one add to such words except "AVE!"
As usual with your posts, Venator, I find myself thinking "Wish I'd
said that!" In this case however I know it's not possible since I
have no gift for poetry. No matter, hopefully those who have departed
understand that your words speak for all of Nova Roma in this
situation.
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Consul
--- In novaroma@--------, Piparskegg UllRsson <catamount_grange@i...>
wrote:
> Avete,
>
> I haven't commented much in the past within the discussions,
> which may or may not have led to the several Cives leaving the New
City.
>
> I offer this to speed their journeys, though.
>
> I would ask that, those who are in contact with any who have left,
> pass this on, please.
>
> -Faring Away-
> >From Venator in Amicitia
>
> I say fare well, to friends unmet
> On placid seas, through stormy swells
> Our ships have paced, each other's paths
> But now the time, for parting comes
>
> My course remains, take ship to Rome
> Your path is too, by other routes
> Our dreams at base, are so alike
> A dream of Her, whose Spirit calls
>
> But different, too much, somehow
> And crew tempers, have flared and sparked
> Too many times, set sails alight
> With bitter words, beyond recall
>
> So travel safe, upon your way
> I ask your words, of blessing too
> And send a note, from time to time
> Your health I'll drink, and wish you luck
>
> For journey's worth, is not all mine
> The treasured goal, is Romans' all
> And at the end, of voyage long
> I think we'll see, we're all at home
>
> --
> ===========================================
> Venator
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Documents of Citizenship |
| From: |
"Robert W" <robert@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:45:16 -0500 |
|
Salve Helena Galeria: Thankyou for your reply. I made this suggestion at
least two years ago and nothing was done. I have offered the idea again,
hoping that someone who knows how to put something like that together would
like to tackle it. I am happy to see that you support the idea. So far, you
are the only one to have commented on it. Thankyou for supporting me on the
suggestion. I hope more people give this some serious thought.
Ave atque vale, ... Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato, ... civis Novae
Romae et Rogatorus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Teleri ferch Nyfain" <rckovak@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:56 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Documents of Citizenship
> Salvete
>
> I think this a wonderful idea. I agree that the more tangible, physical
> ties to Nova Roma, the more 'real' citizenship becomes. Symbols have a
> great deal of power psychologically.
>
> Valete,
> Helena Galeria
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
|
| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Re: Documents of Citizenship |
| From: |
"Oppius Flaccus Severus" <oppiusflaccus@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:23:52 -0800 |
|
Salvete Rogator Tulli et Quiritibus;
I too, join Helena in stating that this is in fact an excellent idea.
Though I'd not want to volunteer anyone, we have at least one
or two excellent graphic artists in our midst that could do something
really exciting with logos or some sort of embossed document
background.
Personally, I'm a huge believer in everything we can do to make
our membership seem more worthwhile to those who might otherwise
take it casually and something akin to 'citizenship papers' are a nice
inexpensive and meaningful way of doing this.
Perhaps as a step in the Censorial approval process, a step could be
added to export the new civis name and citizenship number into a
textual form, which could be exported or converted to a nice Acrobat
document.
So Appi Tulli, I would be happy to work with you and anyone else on
such a project. I can volunteer the services of my copy of Adobe Acrobat
for doing some test designs and so forth. I think though that we would
need some additional input from Senator Octavius and the Censores
on this, as it seems likely that such a document would be generated
at the time of approval. (Or, I suppose it could likewise be generated from
a Paterfamilias in the cases where a new citizen was joining an existing
gens.) Since we already have over 700 cives that would need a copy of
the citizenship document (if this were to be made official,) maybe a small
committee of project-level scriba to help generate the PDF files for the
extant citizens. -Just a thought.
If I can be of help in such an endeavor, please do not hesitate to contact
me. Will be happy to try a test batch and doing some bulk import/export
stuff to see what we can put together.
Bene valete,
Oppius Flaccus Severus
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert W [mailto:robert@--------]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 9:45 AM
To: novaroma@--------
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Documents of Citizenship
Salve Helena Galeria: Thankyou for your reply. I made this suggestion at
least two years ago and nothing was done. I have offered the idea again,
hoping that someone who knows how to put something like that together would
like to tackle it. I am happy to see that you support the idea. So far, you
are the only one to have commented on it. Thankyou for supporting me on the
suggestion. I hope more people give this some serious thought.
Ave atque vale, ... Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato, ... civis Novae
Romae et Rogatorus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Teleri ferch Nyfain" <rckovak@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:56 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Documents of Citizenship
> Salvete
>
> I think this a wonderful idea. I agree that the more tangible, physical
> ties to Nova Roma, the more 'real' citizenship becomes. Symbols have a
> great deal of power psychologically.
>
> Valete,
> Helena Galeria
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Announcement: Experimental new Chat Area |
| From: |
"Robert W" <robert@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:21:05 -0500 |
|
Salve: Marcus Octavius, you have done an excellent job with the new chat
room. Being able to send messages to individuals really is a nice touch.
This is a great addition to the site. You deserve much praise for this one.
Gratias tibi ago!
Ave atque vale, Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Octavius Germanicus" <haase@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:42 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Announcement: Experimental new Chat Area
>
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> The new Nova Roma chat room nears completion and is ready for
> additional testing.
>
> Anyone who is interested in seeing the new chat area,
> helping to test it, and suggesting improvements is invited to:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat
>
> To log in, you'll need your citizen ID number, which can be found
> on your Album Civium profile page (click on your name in the
> Album Civium) and password (which you can reset from the same
> page, if you don't have one already).
>
> Valete, Octavius.
>
> --
> M. Octavius Germanicus
> Propraetor, Lacus Magni
> Curator Araneum et Senator
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] A new morning... |
| From: |
margali <margali@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:34:13 -0500 |
|
Salve -
As a brand new citizen, I plan on checking the site out [as soon as I
get back from a banzai round trip to Portsmouth NH this afternoon ;-) ]
Hyapatia Asinia, called Margali
--
MarilynTraber@--------
HTTP://WWW.FictionForest.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Documents of Citizenship |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:52:04 -0500 |
|
Salvete;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert W [mailto:robert@--------]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 4:39 PM
>
> A couple of years ago, I offered the suggestion
> that perhaps more citizens would take a greater interest, if
> perhaps they had something they could hold in their hands or
> display on their wall that was proof of their citizenship in Nova
> Roma. An "Official Certificate of Nova Roman Citizenship" or
> something similar, framed and hanging on their wall at home
> perhaps, would be a constant reminder that as a citizen of Nova
> Roma, they have certain rights and obligations that go along with
> citizenship.
I thought this was a grand idea way back when it was originally proposed,
and still do today. I can see it taking three different forms (and perhaps
someone else could come up with another option):
1) A "virtual" document, which is simply a computer-generated graphic (maybe
in Acrobat format) which is emailed out to every new Citizen for them to
print out and frame, or delete, as they wish.
2) A "mandatory physical" document, which would be automatically sent out to
every new Citizen upon acceptance of their application and receipt of their
first year's taxes. The cost would be taken out of the membership fees each
Citizen would pay, or perhaps by a new one-time "Application Fee".
3) A "voluntary physical" document, which would be made available to new
(and already-existing) Citizens as an item that could be purchased once
one's application had been approved. Indeed, such a thing could have
different "levels"; a basic package just having a certificate; a standard
package having perhaps a certificate, ID card, and "What is Nova Roma?"
booklet (the old one from 1998 would have to be DRASTICALLY rewritten); and
a deluxe package having perhaps all of that plus a couple of coins, a bumper
sticker, and a new-style T-shirt.
(What? Did he say "new-style T-shirt"? Yes, indeedy, Quirites; more details
soon to come! And coins? Ayup-- Marcus Cassius tells me they're on the way!)
Here are my own thoughts on the three options:
1) I would prefer not to go this route, because it would tend to reinforce
the idea that we're an internet-based organization. Plus, such a certificate
would by its very nature not be able to be as nice as one which was printed,
perhaps embossed, perhaps in multiple colors, etc.
2) I think this is the least preferable of the three options. While I'm not
opposed prima face to a one-time application fee, I'm not sure it's
something we need to think about right now (especially since annual
membership dues-- in one form or another-- seem to be acceptable to most
folks; let's see how that goes before we talk about asking new Cives for
more money). And taking money out of the general treasury for such a thing
seems a bad idea to me, given that some people apply for Citizenship simply
because it's as easy as filling out a web form, and with no intention of any
sort of participation. Why spend money on "ghosts"?
3) Surprise, surprise; I think this would be the way to go. It has the
benefits of being both optional and scalable. Having it in hard copy means
we can do the certificates and ID cards up right; maybe even have
photographs on the cards. And hey-- maybe we could even issue our own
passports through this sort of program!
Great idea. I'd like to hear some input from the Censors on the issue; since
it would apply to new Citizens, I would think they would be integrally
involved...
Valete,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
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bad one." (Crassus, in the film "Spartacus")
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