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Subject:	[novaroma] Governorships
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:30:51 -0500

Salvete;

Those individuals who have stepped forward to fill vacant governorships,
please send to the Consuls (consuls@--------) a statement regarding your
qualifications, future plans for the provincia, and any other information
you believe relevant to the Senate's deliberations. The Senate will likely
be meeting next week, and should have as much time as possible to consider
the candidates for the various governorships.

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus, in the film "Spartacus")

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Subject:	[novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	cassius622@--------
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:49:01 EST

Salvete Omnes,

It is my great pleasure to announce that Nova Roma coinage is officially on
order, and will be available in about four weeks!

The coins will be die stamped of bronze, and will be the size of a U.S. half
dollar. The design can be seen online at:

http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg

The first run will be 5,000 coins. The plan is that these coins will be
available at a bargain price, and will actually be usable for trade at live
events, etc. The dies for the coins are in production now, and a lead
"proof" from the dies should arrive in another week and a half or so. I'll
scan the image of the proof and will put that online as well. From that point
it'll only be another couple of weeks before the coins are available in the
Macellum!

The prospect of finally having coinage on hand is an exciting one. Not only
will they be useful at live events, (far more interesting than food tickets,
or whatever!) they are of course a well known symbol of sovereignty.

It takes some organization and dedication to carry out such a project. Usable
coinage (rather than merely commemorative coinage) will help to show that
Nova Roma has the ability to provide tangible tangible, real world
infrastructure. At last all Citizens of Nova Roma will have the opportunity
to "hold a piece of Nova Roma in their hand!"

More details about coinage will be available in the next few weeks. If anyone
has questions, feel free to contact me directly or post to the list.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Consul

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Quintus Sertorius" <quintus-sertorius@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:08:00 -0600

I definitely would like to get some coins for myself and my gens! Maybe we
should limit the number of coins that go to any one citizen? To avoid a run
on them.
QS

----- Original Message -----
From: <cassius622@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)

> Salvete Omnes,
>
> It is my great pleasure to announce that Nova Roma coinage is officially
on
> order, and will be available in about four weeks!
>
> The coins will be die stamped of bronze, and will be the size of a U.S.
half
> dollar. The design can be seen online at:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg
>
> The first run will be 5,000 coins. The plan is that these coins will be
> available at a bargain price, and will actually be usable for trade at
live
> events, etc. The dies for the coins are in production now, and a lead
> "proof" from the dies should arrive in another week and a half or so.
I'll
> scan the image of the proof and will put that online as well. From that
point
> it'll only be another couple of weeks before the coins are available in
the
> Macellum!
>
> The prospect of finally having coinage on hand is an exciting one. Not
only
> will they be useful at live events, (far more interesting than food
tickets,
> or whatever!) they are of course a well known symbol of sovereignty.
>
> It takes some organization and dedication to carry out such a project.
Usable
> coinage (rather than merely commemorative coinage) will help to show that
> Nova Roma has the ability to provide tangible tangible, real world
> infrastructure. At last all Citizens of Nova Roma will have the
opportunity
> to "hold a piece of Nova Roma in their hand!"
>
> More details about coinage will be available in the next few weeks. If
anyone
> has questions, feel free to contact me directly or post to the list.
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
> Consul
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:26:48 -0500

Salvete;

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quintus Sertorius [mailto:quintus-sertorius@--------]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:08 PM
>
> I definitely would like to get some coins for myself and my gens! Maybe we
> should limit the number of coins that go to any one citizen? To
> avoid a run
> on them.
> QS

RUN on them! Please! There are more than enough to handle the demand, and
more can always be made. I'll probably be buying 100 at least.

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus, in the film "Spartacus")

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Quintus Sertorius" <quintus-sertorius@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:26:29 -0600

Thanks for clearing that up for me Consul, I too shall purchase a goodly
amount! ;-)

QS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:26 PM
Subject: RE: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)

> Salvete;
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Quintus Sertorius [mailto:quintus-sertorius@--------]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:08 PM
> >
> > I definitely would like to get some coins for myself and my gens! Maybe
we
> > should limit the number of coins that go to any one citizen? To
> > avoid a run
> > on them.
> > QS
>
> RUN on them! Please! There are more than enough to handle the demand, and
> more can always be made. I'll probably be buying 100 at least.
>
> Valete,
>
> Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
> Consul
>
> "For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such
a
> bad one." (Crassus, in the film "Spartacus")
>
> email: germanicus@--------
> AIM: Flavius Vedius
> ICQ: 106199729
> www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


Subject:	FW: Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	Amulius Equitius <Maximus@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:46:22 -0600

Salve,
The idea of having actual coinage is an
exciting idea. The question I have is what will the
currency be called? The US has the dollar, Britian
has the pound, Mexico has the peso, Nova Roma has
the...
Vale,
Amulius Equitius Germanicus

-----Original Message-----
From: Quintus Sertorius <quintus-sertorius@-------->
Sent: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:08:00 -0600
To: novaroma@--------
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in
production! :)

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I definitely would like to get some coins for
myself and my gens! Maybe we 
should limit the number of coins that go to any one
citizen? To avoid a run 
on them. 
QS 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cassius622@--------> 
To: <novaroma@--------> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:49 PM 
Subject: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in
production! :) 
 
 
> Salvete Omnes, 
> 
> It is my great pleasure to announce that Nova
Roma coinage is
officially 
on 
> order, and will be available in about four weeks!
 
> 
> The coins will be die stamped of bronze, and will
be the size of a U.S. 
half 
> dollar. The design can be seen online at: 
> 
> <a
href="http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg
">http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg</a>
 
> 
> The first run will be 5,000 coins. The plan is
that these coins will be 
> available at a bargain price, and will actually
be usable for trade at 
live 
> events, etc. The dies for the coins are in
production now, and� a
lead 
> "proof" from the dies should arrive� in another
week and a
half or so. 
I'll 
> scan the image of the proof and will put that
online as well. From that 
point 
> it'll only be another couple of weeks before the
coins are available in 
the 
> Macellum! 
> 
> The prospect of finally having coinage on hand is
an exciting one. Not 
only 
> will they be useful at live events, (far more
interesting than food 
tickets, 
> or whatever!)� they are of course a well known
symbol of
sovereignty. 
> 
> It takes some organization and dedication to
carry out such a project. 
Usable 
> coinage (rather than merely commemorative
coinage) will help to show
that 
> Nova Roma has the ability to provide tangible
tangible, real world 
> infrastructure. At last all Citizens of Nova Roma
will have the 
opportunity 
> to "hold a piece of Nova Roma in their hand!" 
> 
> More details about coinage will be available in
the next few weeks. If 
anyone 
> has questions, feel free to contact me directly
or post to the list. 
> 
> Valete, 
> 
> Marcus Cassius Julianus 
> Consul 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
removed] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject:	[novaroma] ROMAN DAYS!!!
From:	Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata <LucillaCornelia@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:01:53 -0800 (PST)

Salvete Quirites,

With Roman Days fast approaching, I need to see a show
of hands by those who wish to join the group of us who
will be staying at the Red Roof Inn in Lanham, MD.
Nova Roma will also be hosting a Hospitality Suite at
this establishment.

With our discount, the rate for a room with a
king-sized bed is $67.49 (+tax) per night based on
double occupancy; for a room with two double beds, the
rate is $71.99 (+tax) per night based on double
occupancy.

I need to finalize our reservations next week. If
you're interested in taking advantage of these rates,
please e-mail me no later than Tuesday 28 March.

Also, our very own Merlinia Ambrosia offers a terrific
meal plan during Roman Days in which I'm certain many
of us will want to participate. Just $20 buys you
breakfast, lunch and dinner on Saturday (06/09) and
breakfast and lunch on Sunday (06/10). And the food
is FABULOUS! You can also purchase dinner only on
Saturday for $5.

Want to participate in NR's lodging or meal plan?
Please contact me -- but do it soon. Tempis fugit!

Vale bene,
Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata
Accensa

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] ROMAN DAYS!!!
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:49:10 -0800

Me me me...Prima Cornelia and I plan to be there.. :) hehehe what
information do you need?

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
*Do I sound excited enough!!!*

Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata wrote:
>
> Salvete Quirites,
>
> With Roman Days fast approaching, I need to see a show
> of hands by those who wish to join the group of us who
> will be staying at the Red Roof Inn in Lanham, MD.
> Nova Roma will also be hosting a Hospitality Suite at
> this establishment.
>
> With our discount, the rate for a room with a
> king-sized bed is $67.49 (+tax) per night based on
> double occupancy; for a room with two double beds, the
> rate is $71.99 (+tax) per night based on double
> occupancy.
>
> I need to finalize our reservations next week. If
> you're interested in taking advantage of these rates,
> please e-mail me no later than Tuesday 28 March.
>
> Also, our very own Merlinia Ambrosia offers a terrific
> meal plan during Roman Days in which I'm certain many
> of us will want to participate. Just $20 buys you
> breakfast, lunch and dinner on Saturday (06/09) and
> breakfast and lunch on Sunday (06/10). And the food
> is FABULOUS! You can also purchase dinner only on
> Saturday for $5.
>
> Want to participate in NR's lodging or meal plan?
> Please contact me -- but do it soon. Tempis fugit!
>
> Vale bene,
> Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata
> Accensa
>
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] ROMAN DAYS!!!
From:	SlymnestraRose@--------
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:15:45 EST

Ave,

Oh heckles, the Swiss Alps can wait another month. Count me in as well, I
shall be in contact with you soon.

Vale,
Aeternia


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Oppius Flaccus Severus" <oppiusflaccus@-------->
Date:	Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:36:47 -0800

Salvete Quiritibus!

This is truly, truly a great day for Rome! An excellent choice of images
that
look as if they will cast well in bronze. Gratias multas Consul Cassi for
your
efforts in bringing this about. Can't wait to see the final product!

Bona Fortuna!
Bene valete,
-Oppius
-----Original Message-----
From: cassius622@-------- [mailto:cassius622@--------]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:49 PM
To: novaroma@--------
Subject: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)

Salvete Omnes,

It is my great pleasure to announce that Nova Roma coinage is officially on
order, and will be available in about four weeks!

The coins will be die stamped of bronze, and will be the size of a U.S. half
dollar. The design can be seen online at:

http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg

<snipped>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	[novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:44:42 +0200

Salvete,

While I'm waiting of my citizenship application to go through the
officials, I think now is a good time to introduce myself. My
macronational name is Mikko Sillanpaa and my motivation to join Nova
Roma is based on my interest of Roman culture and history. I'm not
professional historian, and I have no systematic studies in Roman
history, so I ask all of you to be patient with me. I'll try to learn
as much as I can, but some realities like running my own company may
sometimes get priority over studying.

I'm much interested in Roman philosophy, mainly stoicism (Seneca is
my favourite but also Ciceros De Senectute is great, also I find
Epictetus quite interesting). I have studied some Latin 5 years ago,
and I think that being a citizen will improve my Latin as time passes.

I'm not very talkative kind of person, more of that silent type who
enjoys listening others, so I think I will not be that active in
public discussions or debates. I have an interest to take part in
politics, but I want first feel myself comfortable with Nova Roma and
her laws before I get into action, I have no need to rush into action.

As I am quite work-centric and don't feel myself comfortable if I
haven't got anything to do, I have couple of ideas/thoughts I want to
share with you:

1. I have my own webdesign company and we also do grapic design for
printmedia. If there is need for graphic design or website
development within Nova Roma, please don't hesitate to ask if I could
contribute something to these kind of projects. I would also be
interested to list my company into Macellum section of Nova Roma
website if it is possible.

2. One of my hobbies is astrology and I think I could study of what
kind of astrology was practised in ancient Rome and maybe practise
Roman astrology in Macellum. Now I'm asking you: would you find this
acceptable? Astrology usually arises quite passionate dabates and I
don't wish to take part in something that is not welcome within Nova
Roma.

3. For couple of months I have tried to find original versions of
writings of Seneca, Cicero and Epictetus from libraries and bookshops
around here, but I haven't find any. I don't know if there are this
kind of books in bookstores in other countries, but I got feeling
that at least there aren't too many of them anyway. So I came to
think that maybe Nova Roma could some day publish original Latin
texts of different aspects of Roman culture as bookseries or in some
electronic format. I'm quite sure that there would be at least some
interest for this kind of publications, what do others think of this?

Valete,
Mikko Sillanpaa
(My Nova Roman name will hopefully be Caius Curius Saturninus.)


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	SlymnestraRose@--------
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:10:01 EST

Ave!!!!

Welcome to Nova Roma! May your stay here be wonderfilled and productive. I
have an answer to your #2 statement or at least I think I do. Roman Astrology
or the closest thing to it ancient wise would be Soothsaying. If you're
intrested try delving into Etruscan History, which is a good start. I will
try and contact you privately with more information later on.

Vale,
Aeternia


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:15:13 -0000

Salve Mikko

>2. One of my hobbies is astrology and I think I could study of what
>kind of astrology was practised in ancient Rome and maybe practise
>Roman astrology in Macellum. Now I'm asking you: would you find this
>acceptable? Astrology usually arises quite passionate dabates and I
>don't wish to take part in something that is not welcome within Nova
>Roma.
I have an interest on Greco-Roman Astrology as well. In fact - as someone
already said - Astrology is not a traditional Roman art, though it made it
into Rome during the Imperial period. Instead, Roman Astrology followed the
very same principles established by the Hellenistic scholars, and maybe I
can say that no writer of the Roman period besides Ptolemy (and as you know
he was from the Egyptian province) introduces relevant inovations. So, we
can call that school of Astrology as Greco-Roman or Hellenistic, for there
is no "Roman" Astrology.
Hellenistic Astrology differed somewhat from the main currents of modern
Astrology because it sought to be deterministic, i.e. given a certain
planetary disposition during birth (the "Horoscopos"), Greco-Roman
astrologers thought it possible to tell the fate of a man with a fair degree
of certainty (nowadays, Astrology looks more for psychological influences,
and other influencing but non-deterministic aspects. In a certain way it
defended itself against error... Is that a lack of skill by modern
astrologers? =)).

Besides the Astrological science itself, there is also the
Philosophical/Cosmological aspect which I bet you will also enjoy. Some
Cosmological principles of Hellenistic Astrology are the following:
- There is a Creator and Ruler of the Universe, which we can call God (Theos
(Greek), Deus (Latin));
- The Creator rules the Universe (Geocentric - I will speak later on what
this means) through 7 powers (if we include the Lunar Nodes, Caput Draconis
and Cauda Draconis, this ascends to 9 planets) which are the 7 planets (Sol,
Luna, Mercurius, Mars, Venus, Iuppiter, Saturnus). The balance of powers
reorganizes itself constinuously in order to draw the will of the Creator on
Earth.
- The relative position of the 7 planets among themselves and relative to
the fixed constellations of Cellestial Sphere at the time of birth defines
an Horoscopos that dictates the fate of newborn humans. Besides, there are
other moments in life affected by the starts and planets, which is the
subject of the so called "mundane astrology".

A corolary of this is that the Universe is deterministics (see why the
Stoics liked Astrology so much? =)) and its phenomena depend only on the
will of the Creator. I will not present the arguments of the opposers here
(which are quite interesting as well) for it is off-topic. Nevertheless I'm
sure you would specially enjoy Cicero as he presents a good summary of the
several thesis:
- De Divinatione
- De Natura Deorum

Would you like a bibliography list on Greco-Roman Astrology?

Vale
Antonius Gryllus Graecus


Subject:	[novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem XI Kalendas Aprilias (March 22nd)
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:31:39 -0000

Salvete omnes

This is one of the dies nefasti (N), a day on which no public business can
take place.

This is the day of the procession of the 'dendrophori' (tree-bearers) of
Magna Mater/Cybele. They carry a pine tree (cut in a wood dedicated to Magna
Mater) to the temple on the Palatine hill, after the sacrifice of a ram on
the stock of the chopped tree. This funeral procession evokes the death of
Attis, who emasculated himself near a pine tree. As in a funeral, the pine
in dressed in wool with violet garlands.
This is the seventh day of a nine-day fast for the worshippers of Magna
Mater, leading up to the Day of Blood on March 24th.

This is also the 'dies violae', when we put flowers on the tombs of the
dead.

This is the fourth day of the Quinquatrus, festival of Mars and Minerva,
which began on ante diem XIV Kalendas Aprilias (March 19th).

The month Martius is dedicated to Mars.

Valete in pace deorum
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Robert W" <robert@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:46:30 -0500

Salve: This is great. Now we have our own money. I will definitely be
getting a large number of them. I love the design.To all those who had a
part in bringing this about, many thanks. Vale, ... Appius Tullius Marcellus
Cato
----- Original Message -----
From: <cassius622@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:49 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)

> Salvete Omnes,
>
> It is my great pleasure to announce that Nova Roma coinage is officially
on
> order, and will be available in about four weeks!
>
> The coins will be die stamped of bronze, and will be the size of a U.S.
half
> dollar. The design can be seen online at:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg
>
> The first run will be 5,000 coins. The plan is that these coins will be
> available at a bargain price, and will actually be usable for trade at
live
> events, etc. The dies for the coins are in production now, and a lead
> "proof" from the dies should arrive in another week and a half or so.
I'll
> scan the image of the proof and will put that online as well. From that
point
> it'll only be another couple of weeks before the coins are available in
the
> Macellum!
>
> The prospect of finally having coinage on hand is an exciting one. Not
only
> will they be useful at live events, (far more interesting than food
tickets,
> or whatever!) they are of course a well known symbol of sovereignty.
>
> It takes some organization and dedication to carry out such a project.
Usable
> coinage (rather than merely commemorative coinage) will help to show that
> Nova Roma has the ability to provide tangible tangible, real world
> infrastructure. At last all Citizens of Nova Roma will have the
opportunity
> to "hold a piece of Nova Roma in their hand!"
>
> More details about coinage will be available in the next few weeks. If
anyone
> has questions, feel free to contact me directly or post to the list.
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
> Consul
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


Subject:	[novaroma] New citizen
From:	marciusrufus@--------
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:14:49 -0000

Salvete omnes

I'm new citizen of our great NR republic. I'm fascinating by captive
about this as I see succsessfull attempt to recover Roman republic.
I'll greet any advice or information about what citizenship brings
and requires.

Bene valete
Marcus Marcius Rufus
Citizen


Subject:	[novaroma] absentia usque Kal. Aprilis
From:	"Maximianus Flavius Herculius" <t.odysse@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:44:18 +0100

Salvete Quirites,

�because of some urgent family-buisness I will be

absent from Nova Roma until April 1,

Ave et Valete

Maximianus Flavius Herculius

Regio Raetia
Provincia Germania

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Subject:	RE: [novaroma] ROMAN DAYS!!!
From:	"JusticeCMO" <justicecmo@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:11:41 -0500

Salve,

I do believe you can count myself, Germanicus and our new little Roman to be
there with bells (or, okay pacifiers and drool cloths LOL) on!

Looking forward to it!

Priscilla Vedia Serena
-----Original Message-----
From: Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata [mailto:LucillaCornelia@--------]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:02 AM
To: NovaRoma@--------
Subject: [novaroma] ROMAN DAYS!!!

Salvete Quirites,

With Roman Days fast approaching, I need to see a show
of hands by those who wish to join the group of us who
will be staying at the Red Roof Inn in Lanham, MD.
Nova Roma will also be hosting a Hospitality Suite at
this establishment.

With our discount, the rate for a room with a
king-sized bed is $67.49 (+tax) per night based on
double occupancy; for a room with two double beds, the
rate is $71.99 (+tax) per night based on double
occupancy.

I need to finalize our reservations next week. If
you're interested in taking advantage of these rates,
please e-mail me no later than Tuesday 28 March.

Also, our very own Merlinia Ambrosia offers a terrific
meal plan during Roman Days in which I'm certain many
of us will want to participate. Just $20 buys you
breakfast, lunch and dinner on Saturday (06/09) and
breakfast and lunch on Sunday (06/10). And the food
is FABULOUS! You can also purchase dinner only on
Saturday for $5.

Want to participate in NR's lodging or meal plan?
Please contact me -- but do it soon. Tempis fugit!

Vale bene,
Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata
Accensa

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Subject:	[novaroma] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aran=FDyor/Wanted?=
From:	Publius Sentius Rutilianus Dexion <kelibol@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:27:53 +0200

Salvete......

Asia Occidentalis b�lgesindeki arkada�lara �a�r�....
San�r�m art�k birbirimizi tan�man�n ve hem b�lgemizi
nas�l geli�tirebilecegimizi hemde
Nova Roma i�in nas�l yararl� olabilecegimizi konu�man�n zaman� geldi.
Bana biraz destek vermek (zira burda yaln�z kurta
d�n��meye ba�lad�m..)ve bu
konular� gorusmek isterseniz l�tfen *ozel* olarak beni aray�n.

Valete bene..

Publius Sentius Rutilianus Dexion
rapax@--------

This post is in Turkish and for the fellow cive from
Israel and for the rest here is the
translation:

Salvete...

This is a call for my fellow citizens of the
provincia of Asia Occidentalis..
I think it is the time to know each other and share
our views about how we can
improve our provincia and how we can contribute for the growth of
Nova Roma.
So,if you want to give me some back up (for I'm about
to become a lone wolf
here) and talk on these matters please contact me* privately*.

Valete bene...

Publius Sentius Rutilianus Dexion
rapax@--------


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:15:57 +0200

>I have an interest on Greco-Roman Astrology as well. In fact - as someone
>already said - Astrology is not a traditional Roman art, though it made it
>into Rome during the Imperial period. Instead, Roman Astrology followed the
>very same principles established by the Hellenistic scholars, and maybe I
>can say that no writer of the Roman period besides Ptolemy (and as you know
>he was from the Egyptian province) introduces relevant inovations. So, we
>can call that school of Astrology as Greco-Roman or Hellenistic, for there
>is no "Roman" Astrology.

I have understood that astrology in Rome was popular amongst the
people but some rulers didn't allow astrologers or other "fortune
tellers" to practise their art in Rome and exiled them. And I have
understood that astrologers didn't have very good reputation in
general (in this, I think, there may have been variations in
different times in Roman history). Must go and find that history of
astrology book I have somewhere at home.

>Besides the Astrological science itself, there is also the
>Philosophical/Cosmological aspect which I bet you will also enjoy. Some
>Cosmological principles of Hellenistic Astrology are the following:
>- There is a Creator and Ruler of the Universe, which we can call God (Theos
>(Greek), Deus (Latin));
>- The Creator rules the Universe (Geocentric - I will speak later on what
>this means) through 7 powers (if we include the Lunar Nodes, Caput Draconis
>and Cauda Draconis, this ascends to 9 planets) which are the 7 planets (Sol,
>Luna, Mercurius, Mars, Venus, Iuppiter, Saturnus). The balance of powers
>reorganizes itself constinuously in order to draw the will of the Creator on
>Earth.
>- The relative position of the 7 planets among themselves and relative to
>the fixed constellations of Cellestial Sphere at the time of birth defines
>an Horoscopos that dictates the fate of newborn humans. Besides, there are
>other moments in life affected by the starts and planets, which is the
>subject of the so called "mundane astrology".

How important mundane astrology was in those days, I have understood
that it was more important than nowadays? In medieval times astrology
was used quite often to make predictions about the weather, was this
part of Hellenistic astrology as well? And how the nodes were
understood to work (if I remember correctly in Jyotish the nodes have
very different meaning than in modern western astrology)? And many
other questions I could ask...

>A corolary of this is that the Universe is deterministics (see why the
>Stoics liked Astrology so much? =)) and its phenomena depend only on the
>will of the Creator. I will not present the arguments of the opposers here
>(which are quite interesting as well) for it is off-topic. Nevertheless I'm
>sure you would specially enjoy Cicero as he presents a good summary of the
>several thesis:
>- De Divinatione
>- De Natura Deorum

I must look for english translation for these from somewhere,
unluckily Finnish translations of Cicero are limited to very few. I
would wery much like to continue this conversation further, but is
the main list right place for it?

>Would you like a bibliography list on Greco-Roman Astrology?

Yes, that would be wonderful, thanks in advance.


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Marcus Cassius Julianus" <cassius622@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:52:48 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, "Quintus Sertorius" <quintus-sertorius@h...>
wrote:
> I definitely would like to get some coins for myself and my gens!
Maybe we should limit the number of coins that go to any one
citizen? To avoid a run on them.
> QS

Salve,

Quite frankly, I'd like nothing more than a "run" on the coinage! The
first production, all $1,800 of it, is coming out of my pocket. No
point in asking the Senate to deplete the NR treasury completely!
I'll be refunded out of sales of the coins of course, but the sooner
that happens, the better! :)

Happily, once the first run is sold out, we'll be able to produce a
second run FROM the treasury, and it'll only take a couple of weeks
to get another 5,000 die minted coins.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:54:16 -0000

Salve iterum

>I have understood that astrology in Rome was popular amongst the
>people but some rulers didn't allow astrologers or other "fortune
>tellers" to practise their art in Rome and exiled them. And I have
>understood that astrologers didn't have very good reputation in
>general (in this, I think, there may have been variations in
>different times in Roman history). Must go and find that history of
>astrology book I have somewhere at home.
Well, it was specially forbidden to draw the horoscope of the Emperor (of
course this was for political reasons, as it could easily be used to justify
de deposition or murder of an Emperor). Nevertheless, there was also the
theory that the Emperor was not affected by Astrology as he had a special
relationship with the Gods (this is related to the Imperial cult). As the
fate of an Emperor was to be deified after death, he was considered as
already sharing the divine substance during life, and hence some considered
he has free-will like the Gods/God, not being subject to mundane
determinism.

>How important mundane astrology was in those days, I have understood
>that it was more important than nowadays? In medieval times astrology
>was used quite often to make predictions about the weather, was this
>part of Hellenistic astrology as well? And how the nodes were
>understood to work (if I remember correctly in Jyotish the nodes have
>very different meaning than in modern western astrology)? And many
>other questions I could ask...
There are some authors on Hellenistic mundane astrology. The most famous
(and much followed by the Arabs) was Dorotheus of Sidon. Other authors also
write about mundane aspects such as weather predictions. If I'm not in
error, you already find a basic form for this in Hesiod's "Works and Days".

>A corolary of this is that the Universe is deterministics (see why the
>Stoics liked Astrology so much? =)) and its phenomena depend only on the
>will of the Creator. I will not present the arguments of the opposers here
>(which are quite interesting as well) for it is off-topic. Nevertheless I'm
>sure you would specially enjoy Cicero as he presents a good summary of the
>several thesis:
>- De Divinatione
>- De Natura Deorum
>I must look for english translation for these from somewhere,
>unluckily Finnish translations of Cicero are limited to very few. I
>would wery much like to continue this conversation further, but is
>the main list right place for it?
It's very easy. Just go to Amazon. There is an interesting collection which
is the Loeb Classical Library. They homepage is:
http://gopher.hup.harvard.edu/Web_Loeb/Loeb.home.page.html

>Would you like a bibliography list on Greco-Roman Astrology?
>Yes, that would be wonderful, thanks in advance.
I can bring it tomorrow.

Vale
Antonius Gryllus Graecus


Subject:	FW: Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Marcus Cassius Julianus" <cassius622@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:17:10 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, Amulius Equitius <Maximus@T...> wrote:
> Salve,
> The idea of having actual coinage is an
> exciting idea. The question I have is what will the
> currency be called? The US has the dollar, Britian
> has the pound, Mexico has the peso, Nova Roma has
> the...
> Vale,
> Amulius Equitius Germanicus
>

Salvete,

The coins in production now are "Sestertius" coins. If this project
works out we may mint a more limited run of "Denarius" coins each
year. The Sestertius coins will be for trade, the Denarius coins will
probably be commemoratives since they'll probably be sold for more
than their face value.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:23:03 -0500

Salve;

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amulius Equitius [mailto:Maximus@--------]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 22:46
>
> The idea of having actual coinage is an
> exciting idea. The question I have is what will the
> currency be called? The US has the dollar, Britian
> has the pound, Mexico has the peso, Nova Roma has
> the...

Sesterce!

(There is also talk, if the first batch of coins proves successful, of
producing a limited-run 5 sesterce coin as an "annual collector's edition";
something that each year's Consuls could do to commemorate their term of
office. Any thoughts?)

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus in the film "Spartacus")

email: germanicus@--------
AIM: Flavius Vedius
www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:37:55 -0500

Salve;

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikko Sillanp�� [mailto:mikko.sillanpaa@--------]
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 02:45
>
> 2. One of my hobbies is astrology and I think I could study of what
> kind of astrology was practised in ancient Rome and maybe practise
> Roman astrology in Macellum. Now I'm asking you: would you find this
> acceptable? Astrology usually arises quite passionate dabates and I
> don't wish to take part in something that is not welcome within Nova
> Roma.

I think setting up such a business in the Macellum would be most
appropriate. In fact, I'm surprised someone hasn't done so before!

Welcome aboard; you sound like just the sort of energetic person Nova Roma
needs!

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus in the film "Spartacus")

email: germanicus@--------
AIM: Flavius Vedius
www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:37:55 -0500


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: ROMAN DAYS!!!
From:	"Marcus Cassius Julianus" <cassius622@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:43:15 -0000

Salve,

I've sent a private email as well, but do want to announce that
Patricia Cassia and I will also be at Roman Days! We'll hopefully be
at the "group" hotel, and are very much looking forward to meeting
new friends, and seeing old friends again. :)

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Consul

--- In novaroma@--------, Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata
<LucillaCornelia@--------> wrote:
> Salvete Quirites,
>
> With Roman Days fast approaching, I need to see a show
> of hands by those who wish to join the group of us who
> will be staying at the Red Roof Inn in Lanham, MD.
> Nova Roma will also be hosting a Hospitality Suite at
> this establishment.
>
> With our discount, the rate for a room with a
> king-sized bed is $67.49 (+tax) per night based on
> double occupancy; for a room with two double beds, the
> rate is $71.99 (+tax) per night based on double
> occupancy.
>
> I need to finalize our reservations next week. If
> you're interested in taking advantage of these rates,
> please e-mail me no later than Tuesday 28 March.
>
> Also, our very own Merlinia Ambrosia offers a terrific
> meal plan during Roman Days in which I'm certain many
> of us will want to participate. Just $20 buys you
> breakfast, lunch and dinner on Saturday (06/09) and
> breakfast and lunch on Sunday (06/10). And the food
> is FABULOUS! You can also purchase dinner only on
> Saturday for $5.
>
> Want to participate in NR's lodging or meal plan?
> Please contact me -- but do it soon. Tempis fugit!
>
> Vale bene,
> Prima Lucilla Cornelia Fortunata
> Accensa
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
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Subject:	[novaroma] Astrology: bibliography
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:50:25 -0000

Well, no need to check it at home =). Here are some sites where you can find
some important works:

Project Hindsight has the complete collection together with some explanatory
works. Nevertheless I'm not sure about the quality of the translations (I
always prefer translations by well know scholars):
http://www.projecthindsight-tghp.com/translat.htm

For Aratus, Ptolemy and Manilius in paricular, the Loeb translations are
good:
http://gopher.hup.harvard.edu/Web_Loeb/Loeb.home.page.html

For Firmicus Maternus and Dorotheus of Sidon, you should try Ascella
Publications:
http://astrology-world.com/classics.html

You would also like to have [O. Neugebauer, Greek horoscopes]. You can find
it at
http://www.astrology.co.uk/Books/Subjects/bs.HistoryofAstrology.html

Vale
Antonius Gryllus Graecus


Subject:	[novaroma] Call for candidates: Rogatorus
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:51:31 -0500

Flavius Vedius Germanicus novaromanis S.P.D.

A vacancy in one of the four rogatorus positions has opened up, and the post
must be filled within thirty days. Because of the abundance of dies nefasti
in the upcoming month of Aprilis (on which by tradition no voting may take
place), the election will be held next week. Please accept my apologies for
the relatively short notice; we're caught between the calendar and the
constitution.

The four rogatores are the election officials of Nova Roma. When a vote or
election is called by a magistrate, it is up to them (with the cooperation
of the curator araneum) to tabulate the results and present them to the
presiding magistrate. The election process is becoming ever-more automated
as we refine our systems, but some facility with spreadsheets wouldn't be a
bad idea.

The requirements for office are a minimum age of 21 and Citizenship in good
standing for six months.

Any individuals wishing to stand for the position of rogatorus should
contact the Consuls privately via email (consuls@--------).

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	"Lucius Mauricius Procopious" <procopious@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:51:11 -0800

Salve,
Welcome to Nova Roma. I share your interest in philosophy. We have an Email
list dedicated to it's study called "stoic" and I believe several of us
participate in discussions at "Stoic_Foundation". As for books a few are on
line at classics.mit.edu. That's where I first read Epictetus Handbook. Hope
this helps!

Lucius Mauricius Procopious
Propraetor America Boreoccidentalis
(This is an unofficial post for which I assume full responsibility)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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"Indeed, it is not by the plans of men, but by the hand of God that the
affairs of men are directed; and this men call Fate, not knowing the reason
for what things they see occur; and what seems to be without cause is easy
to call the accident of chance. Still, this is a matter every mortal will
decide for himself according to his taste."
-Procopius of Caesarea (in Palestine) [born c.490/507- died c.560s]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mikko Sillanp��" <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:44 PM
Subject: [novaroma] let me introduce myself

> Salvete,
>
> While I'm waiting of my citizenship application to go through the
> officials, I think now is a good time to introduce myself. My
> macronational name is Mikko Sillanpaa and my motivation to join Nova
> Roma is based on my interest of Roman culture and history. I'm not
> professional historian, and I have no systematic studies in Roman
> history, so I ask all of you to be patient with me. I'll try to learn
> as much as I can, but some realities like running my own company may
> sometimes get priority over studying.
>
> I'm much interested in Roman philosophy, mainly stoicism (Seneca is
> my favourite but also Ciceros De Senectute is great, also I find
> Epictetus quite interesting). I have studied some Latin 5 years ago,
> and I think that being a citizen will improve my Latin as time passes.
>
> I'm not very talkative kind of person, more of that silent type who
> enjoys listening others, so I think I will not be that active in
> public discussions or debates. I have an interest to take part in
> politics, but I want first feel myself comfortable with Nova Roma and
> her laws before I get into action, I have no need to rush into action.
>
> As I am quite work-centric and don't feel myself comfortable if I
> haven't got anything to do, I have couple of ideas/thoughts I want to
> share with you:
>
> 1. I have my own webdesign company and we also do grapic design for
> printmedia. If there is need for graphic design or website
> development within Nova Roma, please don't hesitate to ask if I could
> contribute something to these kind of projects. I would also be
> interested to list my company into Macellum section of Nova Roma
> website if it is possible.
>
> 2. One of my hobbies is astrology and I think I could study of what
> kind of astrology was practised in ancient Rome and maybe practise
> Roman astrology in Macellum. Now I'm asking you: would you find this
> acceptable? Astrology usually arises quite passionate dabates and I
> don't wish to take part in something that is not welcome within Nova
> Roma.
>
> 3. For couple of months I have tried to find original versions of
> writings of Seneca, Cicero and Epictetus from libraries and bookshops
> around here, but I haven't find any. I don't know if there are this
> kind of books in bookstores in other countries, but I got feeling
> that at least there aren't too many of them anyway. So I came to
> think that maybe Nova Roma could some day publish original Latin
> texts of different aspects of Roman culture as bookseries or in some
> electronic format. I'm quite sure that there would be at least some
> interest for this kind of publications, what do others think of this?
>
> Valete,
> Mikko Sillanpaa
> (My Nova Roman name will hopefully be Caius Curius Saturninus.)
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


Subject:	[novaroma] Tidying up the Constitution
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:09:47 -0500

Salvete;

Over the course of the last few months, it's become apparent that there are
a few things in the Constitution that could stand to be changed. Some of
these have come up here or in the Senate before, and a couple are new. I
thought I'd throw out some ideas and see if anyone had anything they wanted
to add. A vote on such things won't be happening any time soon, but I wanted
to at least get the idea in peoples' minds.

First, changes to the Constitution are made by the Comitia Centuriata and
then ratified by a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Since calling the Comitia
Centuriata is a bit more involved than the Comitia Populi, it's something I
would really not want to do more than once mid-term. I am thinking about
doing so around August; so we've got plenty of time to consider.

There are four things I think should be changed in our current Constitution:

1) Change the Citizenship section to allow for children to be Citizens (with
some limitations on voting and holding office, naturally). This was
discussed at length in January or February, and everybody seemed to think it
was a good idea. Sometime in the coming months, I'll put together some
specifics. This is far and away the most radical change, and I think we can
all agree it'll be a good thing.

2) Change the provinces and governors section to make it more flexible. Back
when the Constitution was being written (or re-written) it seemed a good
idea to have some hard-and-fast rules for provinces, governors' titles, what
sorts of staff the governors could appoint, etc. But in practice, especially
now that we're getting to the point where a lot of real-world activity is
taking place and local chapters are being formed, both the Senate and the
governors need more flexibility. Basically, there would still be such
standards, but they'd be put in place by Senatus Consultum. The Senate could
consider different titles for governors (depending on the circumstances),
and could enable governors to appoint assistants other than legati. Once
again, I'll come up with some specifics later on.

3) Clean up the gens section. This is more in the realm of a "housekeeping"
item I noticed while looking something up recently. It currently states "The
paterfamilias may, at his or her discretion, expel members of their gens, or
accept new members into it." which could be construed as saying a
paterfamilias could bring people into their gens against their will! I would
just want to clean it up to make it clear that they could accept _willing_
people into their gens.

4) Clean up the Tribunis Plebis section. This, too, is more of a
"housekeeping" item. The Tribunes need to be given the power to administer
the law and to appoint scribes. This was an oversight; now that we're in the
process of putting together the civil law code, it needs to be rectified.

As I said, there's no rush on any of this; I just wanted to give you all
some indicator of what I was contemplating, and possibly to get some input
from you all.

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus in the film "Spartacus")

email: germanicus@--------
AIM: Flavius Vedius
www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	sfp55@--------
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:23:31 EST

In a message dated 3/22/2001 5:27:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
germanicus@-------- writes:

<< (There is also talk, if the first batch of coins proves successful, of
producing a limited-run 5 sesterce coin as an "annual collector's edition";
something that each year's Consuls could do to commemorate their term of
office. Any thoughts? >>
Salvete!
Any chance that it could be retroactive? I'd be willing to finance a run.
Q. Fabius Maximus
Proconsul


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Christer Edling <tjalens.h@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:16:40 +0100

>Salvete,
>
>While I'm waiting of my citizenship application to go through the
>officials, I think now is a good time to introduce myself. My
>macronational name is Mikko Sillanpaa and my motivation to join Nova
>Roma is based on my interest of Roman culture and history. I'm not
>professional historian, and I have no systematic studies in Roman
>history, so I ask all of you to be patient with me. I'll try to learn
>as much as I can, but some realities like running my own company may
>sometimes get priority over studying.
>
>I'm much interested in Roman philosophy, mainly stoicism (Seneca is
>my favourite but also Ciceros De Senectute is great, also I find
>Epictetus quite interesting). I have studied some Latin 5 years ago,
>and I think that being a citizen will improve my Latin as time passes.
>
>I'm not very talkative kind of person, more of that silent type who
>enjoys listening others, so I think I will not be that active in
>public discussions or debates. I have an interest to take part in
>politics, but I want first feel myself comfortable with Nova Roma and
>her laws before I get into action, I have no need to rush into action.
>
>As I am quite work-centric and don't feel myself comfortable if I
>haven't got anything to do, I have couple of ideas/thoughts I want to
>share with you:
>
>1. I have my own webdesign company and we also do grapic design for
>printmedia. If there is need for graphic design or website
>development within Nova Roma, please don't hesitate to ask if I could
>contribute something to these kind of projects. I would also be
>interested to list my company into Macellum section of Nova Roma
>website if it is possible.
>
>2. One of my hobbies is astrology and I think I could study of what
>kind of astrology was practised in ancient Rome and maybe practise
>Roman astrology in Macellum. Now I'm asking you: would you find this
>acceptable? Astrology usually arises quite passionate dabates and I
>don't wish to take part in something that is not welcome within Nova
>Roma.
>
>3. For couple of months I have tried to find original versions of
>writings of Seneca, Cicero and Epictetus from libraries and bookshops
>around here, but I haven't find any. I don't know if there are this
>kind of books in bookstores in other countries, but I got feeling
>that at least there aren't too many of them anyway. So I came to
>think that maybe Nova Roma could some day publish original Latin
>texts of different aspects of Roman culture as bookseries or in some
>electronic format. I'm quite sure that there would be at least some
>interest for this kind of publications, what do others think of this?
>
>Valete,
>Mikko Sillanpaa
Caius Curius Saturninus

Salve Honorable Caius Curius Saturninus!

I glad to have a new neighbour. I live in Ume� in northern Sweden, where do
You live? My interest is mostly in the political and social history and
political science of the Republic. I am also fascinated in stoicism, but I
have only read Marcus Aurelius and a little bit of Seneca.

You are welcome to contact me if You need help in any way in finding your
way in Nova Roma. I have been rather active during my about 7,5 month of
citizenship. I was elected Quaestor in the last elections and am trying to
learn as fast and as well as possible!

Vale

Christer Edling
alias
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Quaestor of Nova Roma
Accensus to Consul Marcus Cassius Julianus
cives Provincia Thule

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Subject:	[novaroma] Welcome to Nova Roma
From:	"Pompeia Cornelia" <scriba_forum@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:01:12 -0000

Salve and welcome to Nova Roma Caius Curius Saturninus!

It is good to have you part of our community.

Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
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Subject:	[novaroma] NRHispania
From:	"Laietanus" <enric.ferrer@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:14:23 +0100

LM Laitanus Nouaromani SPD

Salue Nouaromani,

This is to inform you that a NRHispania list is already going on.

NRHispania is a new list specially dedicated to promote the contact

between ciues in our prouincia. It is however an open list and we

encourage to anyone who wishes to participate to join us.

This is said with a special remark to our latinamerican sisters and brothers!

We are eight members at the moment...but growing on!

Here is the group address: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nrhispania

Bene ualete

Laietanus

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Subject:	[novaroma] Salvete from America Boreoccidentalis
From:	"Julilla" <julilla@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:59:04 -0000

While not new to online discussions of ancient Rome, I am new to Nova
Roma, having just received admittance from my paterfamilias and made
the aquaintance of a few cives in my province.

In brief, I am a self-employed web designer in north central
Washington, and have a longstanding enthusiasm for history. I was
captivated about VI years ago by the online game/mystery tale, SPQR
and became involved in administering the community AncientSites,
which was a most enlightening experience, to say the very least!

I maintain a web site called "Villa Ivlilla" about daily life in
ancient Rome, particularly personal appearance and cuisine, but never
quite seem to be finished tinkering with it.

My husband and I have given three sons to the empire and, when not
creating for the web, we ride unusual two-wheeled chariots
called 'motorcycles,' and our family loves to travel. The family rule
is: stop at all historic sites and markers.

I look forward to "meeting" you all online or in person.

Cura et valeas,

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Julilla Sempronia Magna
VILLA IVLILLA
http://julilla.tripod.com/
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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: coins
From:	"Teleri ferch Nyfain" <rckovak@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:35:18 -0500

Salvete,
The design for the coins looks great - simple and effective. I should also
like some
Valete
Helena Galeria