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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Tiberius Iucundius Maritimus Britannicus <tiberius_iucundius@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:13:33 -0800 (PST)

We need more Finnish Romans!
Where are you?

Tiberius Iucundius Maritimus Britanicus
(Timo)

--- Mikko Sillanpää <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
wrote:
> Salvete,
>
> While I'm waiting of my citizenship application to
> go through the
> officials, I think now is a good time to introduce
> myself. My
> macronational name is Mikko Sillanpaa and my
> motivation to join Nova
> Roma is based on my interest of Roman culture and
> history. I'm not
> professional historian, and I have no systematic
> studies in Roman
> history, so I ask all of you to be patient with me.
> I'll try to learn
> as much as I can, but some realities like running my
> own company may
> sometimes get priority over studying.
>
> I'm much interested in Roman philosophy, mainly
> stoicism (Seneca is
> my favourite but also Ciceros De Senectute is great,
> also I find
> Epictetus quite interesting). I have studied some
> Latin 5 years ago,
> and I think that being a citizen will improve my
> Latin as time passes.
>
> I'm not very talkative kind of person, more of that
> silent type who
> enjoys listening others, so I think I will not be
> that active in
> public discussions or debates. I have an interest to
> take part in
> politics, but I want first feel myself comfortable
> with Nova Roma and
> her laws before I get into action, I have no need to
> rush into action.
>
> As I am quite work-centric and don't feel myself
> comfortable if I
> haven't got anything to do, I have couple of
> ideas/thoughts I want to
> share with you:
>
> 1. I have my own webdesign company and we also do
> grapic design for
> printmedia. If there is need for graphic design or
> website
> development within Nova Roma, please don't hesitate
> to ask if I could
> contribute something to these kind of projects. I
> would also be
> interested to list my company into Macellum section
> of Nova Roma
> website if it is possible.
>
> 2. One of my hobbies is astrology and I think I
> could study of what
> kind of astrology was practised in ancient Rome and
> maybe practise
> Roman astrology in Macellum. Now I'm asking you:
> would you find this
> acceptable? Astrology usually arises quite
> passionate dabates and I
> don't wish to take part in something that is not
> welcome within Nova
> Roma.
>
> 3. For couple of months I have tried to find
> original versions of
> writings of Seneca, Cicero and Epictetus from
> libraries and bookshops
> around here, but I haven't find any. I don't know if
> there are this
> kind of books in bookstores in other countries, but
> I got feeling
> that at least there aren't too many of them anyway.
> So I came to
> think that maybe Nova Roma could some day publish
> original Latin
> texts of different aspects of Roman culture as
> bookseries or in some
> electronic format. I'm quite sure that there would
> be at least some
> interest for this kind of publications, what do
> others think of this?
>
> Valete,
> Mikko Sillanpaa
> (My Nova Roman name will hopefully be Caius Curius
> Saturninus.)
>

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Subject:	[novaroma] Salvete
From:	Masamune Catuvellauni <masamunecatuvellauni@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:23:09 -0800 (PST)

I found this website through my Latin teacher and I
must say it is quite impressive. This is my first year
of studying the Latin language in depth (I went to a
Catholic school which taught us prayers and a few
introduction words in Latin.) I have always admired
the Romans for their ways of living, government, and
poets/storytellers: Hopefully, I'll someday be able
memorize all of the case endings ;) Well, that's all I
can think of to say for now.

Valete

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Subject:	[novaroma] Salvete
From:	Masamune Catuvellauni <masamunecatuvellauni@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:23:09 -0800 (PST)


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	LSergAust@--------
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:46:24 EST

Salve

Great idea! Would it be feasible to have the profiles of the consuls on
the coins (or at the very least, their names)?

If this were actually to become an ongoing annual series, we might well
generate some interest among serious coin collectors, thus establishing
our identity among another group worldwide.

While not a serious coin collector, I would certainly start a collection
of consular coins.

Vale,

L. Sergius Aust. Obst.

On 3/22/01 7:23 AM Flavius Vedius Germanicus (germanicus@--------)
wrote:

>Salve;
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amulius Equitius [mailto:Maximus@--------]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 22:46
>>
>> The idea of having actual coinage is an
>> exciting idea. The question I have is what will the
>> currency be called? The US has the dollar, Britian
>> has the pound, Mexico has the peso, Nova Roma has
>> the...
>
>Sesterce!
>
>(There is also talk, if the first batch of coins proves successful, of
>producing a limited-run 5 sesterce coin as an "annual collector's edition";
>something that each year's Consuls could do to commemorate their term of
>office. Any thoughts?)
>
>Vale,
>
>Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
>Consul
>

certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	LSergAust@--------
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:46:25 EST

Salve

I second that idea - we should have coins honoring all of our consuls
from the beginning. We probably would not want to try to issue several
different coins in a short time span, but I think we should have a
long-term plan to produce coins covering the first three years' consuls.

Vale,

L. Sergius Aust. Obst.

On 3/22/01 11:23 AM Quintus Fabius Maximus (sfp55@--------) wrote:

>In a message dated 3/22/2001 5:27:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>germanicus@-------- writes:
>
><< (There is also talk, if the first batch of coins proves successful, of
> producing a limited-run 5 sesterce coin as an "annual collector's edition";
> something that each year's Consuls could do to commemorate their term of
> office. Any thoughts? >>
>Salvete!
>Any chance that it could be retroactive? I'd be willing to finance a run.
>Q. Fabius Maximus
>Proconsul
>

certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] New citizen
From:	"Oppius Flaccus Severus" <oppiusflaccus@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:43:49 -0800

Salve Marce Marci Rufe!

Greetings and welcome to Nova Roma. We are indeed a successful micronation
and are well on our way to the full restoration of the Respublica of
Roma Mater and are glad to have you among us! There is a good deal to see
and do here in
Nova Roma and many avenues for participation. Consul Germanice has put
together
an excellent introductory site and of course our main site has many good
links
to our various Sodalitas, Religion and other areas of interest.

Bene vale,
Oppius Flaccus Severus
-----Original Message-----
From: marciusrufus@-------- [mailto:marciusrufus@--------]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:15 PM
To: novaroma@--------
Subject: [novaroma] New citizen

Salvete omnes

I'm new citizen of our great NR republic. I'm fascinating by captive
about this as I see succsessfull attempt to recover Roman republic.
I'll greet any advice or information about what citizenship brings
and requires.

Bene valete
Marcus Marcius Rufus
Citizen


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Astrology: bibliography
From:	Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:33:42 +0200

Thank you for these, I'll try get some of these books and take a good
look into subject. And by the way, I just recieved note that I'm now
officially a citizen!

Vale
Caius Curius Saturninus

>Well, no need to check it at home =). Here are some sites where you can find
>some important works:
>
>Project Hindsight has the complete collection together with some explanatory
>works. Nevertheless I'm not sure about the quality of the translations (I
>always prefer translations by well know scholars):
>http://www.projecthindsight-tghp.com/translat.htm
>
>For Aratus, Ptolemy and Manilius in paricular, the Loeb translations are
>good:
>http://gopher.hup.harvard.edu/Web_Loeb/Loeb.home.page.html
>
>For Firmicus Maternus and Dorotheus of Sidon, you should try Ascella
>Publications:
>http://astrology-world.com/classics.html
>
>You would also like to have [O. Neugebauer, Greek horoscopes]. You can find
>it at
>http://www.astrology.co.uk/Books/Subjects/bs.HistoryofAstrology.html
>
>Vale
>Antonius Gryllus Graecus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:03:26 +0200

>Salve Mikko! (or Hyva"a" pa"iva!)

Hyvää päivää sinullekin! (sinullekin = for you too)

>Would be interested in any info on Imperial Roman contacts/trade/cultural
>exchange with Scandinavia; I know that the terminus of the fur route was
>either in or near Finland. Also, the trading ports of Turku and also
>Mariehamn, I think, go way, way back. I can document some cultural motifs
>into Denmark, possibly also eastern Sweden. Would be grateful for any help.
>(am working on a journal article on said topic RSN)

Unfortunately I have no spesific information about this, but I'll
think I might know someone how maybe can help you with this. I'll ask
him if he has something information about this one.

>It is actually amazing how many Nova Romans are computer junkies, pros, or
>aficionados! What's your Web Page URL?

This is something people ask me all the time... I have no personal
webpages, if I had I'll think all my time would be spent in providing
new content for them and I wouldn't have any time left for other
areas of life. :-)

>Astrology...I have a friend who's a professor at Boston University who's an
>expert on medieval and early period astrology, which is rather different in
>more than a few ways than what is practiced today. If you want, I could put
>you in touch with him! (networking....*loce* it!)

That would be really cool, I'm totally amazed of the friendliness
what the Nova Roman people show towards me, and I'll hope that I can
someday contribute something useful into building of Nova Roma.

> > 3. For couple of months I have tried to find original versions of writings
>> of Seneca, Cicero and Epictetus from libraries and bookshops
>
>have you looked on eBay?

Actually I haven't, as I don't have any kind of credit card and I
don't know anyone who has, the shopping in the net is quite of an
terra incognita for me. Yesterday I looked into amazon and noticed
that now one can pay also with money orders etc and this is a great
news for me, no longer I have to order books via bookstore where they
add their own bonus to the price. Must make adjustments to the budget
for nexr months. :-)

>Vale,
>Sibylla Ambrosia Fulvia
>macronation: USA (Connecticut); in NR a travelling augur/soothsayer in
>northern Roman Britain.

Vale,
Caius Curius Saturninus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:33:46 +0200

>Salve Honorable Caius Curius Saturninus!
>
>I glad to have a new neighbour. I live in Umeå in northern Sweden, where do
>You live? My interest is mostly in the political and social history and
>political science of the Republic. I am also fascinated in stoicism, but I
>have only read Marcus Aurelius and a little bit of Seneca.
>
>You are welcome to contact me if You need help in any way in finding your
>way in Nova Roma. I have been rather active during my about 7,5 month of
>citizenship. I was elected Quaestor in the last elections and am trying to
>learn as fast and as well as possible!
>
>Vale
>
>Christer Edling
>alias
>Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
>Quaestor of Nova Roma
>Accensus to Consul Marcus Cassius Julianus
>cives Provincia Thule

Salve Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,

I'll live in Helsinki, Finland. I have read the "Meditations" by M.
Aurelius, I think it is very interesting. Hope I have enough time
someday to really study it thoroughly as it is something one doesn't
want to read only once but several times.

I'll think I will contact you in near future and ask about the
structures of Nova Roma.

Vale
Caius Curius Saturninus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] let me introduce myself
From:	Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:12:44 +0200

>We need more Finnish Romans!
>Where are you?

From Helsinki, are you also Finnish? Are there other Finnish cives?

>Tiberius Iucundius Maritimus Britanicus
>(Timo)

Caius Curius Saturninus


Subject:	[novaroma] Statistic sumary
From:	gaiuscoriolanus@--------
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:33:26 -0000

Salvete omnes

Is there a some kind of statistic sumary that contains brief list of

current number of citizens
number citizens in each provincia
in/out flow information
men/women information
number of members of each gens (but that is in album gentium)
patrician/plebeian information
number of ordo equester citizens

and some other informations

in Nova Roma page?

And if it is not I think, that it will be good to make it, and
publish for example three or four times a year. It will help to watch
demographic evolution of Nova Roma Population.

I guess that could be another censor's obligation, but maybe senate
or censor can establish a special office to manage it.

Valete

Gaius Marcius Coriolanus
*************************
Paterfamilias Gens Marcia
Legatus Pannoniae Inferioris


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Statistic sumary
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:24:48 -0800

Ave,

My comments below:

gaiuscoriolanus@-------- wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes
>
> Is there a some kind of statistic sumary that contains brief list of
>
> current number of citizens

Check the Album Civium, in the bottom of that page it will have the
accurate number.

> number citizens in each provincia

Go to the Provincia page, click on which province you want...it will
list the names of individuals and at the bottom of each link it will
have the number of individuals in that province.

> in/out flow information

What do you mean here?

> men/women information

Nope no statistics on that.

> number of members of each gens (but that is in album gentium)

That is correct it is available on the Album Gentium.

> patrician/plebeian information

Once again, in the Album Gentium.

> number of ordo equester citizens

That is in the Album Civium...

> and some other informations

Like what? Recently I published the national demographic of Nova Roma,
where it showed over 70-75% of Nova Romans are American, and I broke it
down by Country.

> in Nova Roma page?
>
> And if it is not I think, that it will be good to make it, and
> publish for example three or four times a year. It will help to watch
> demographic evolution of Nova Roma Population.

Uh it would be nice..but the Censors are overworked as it is....so, I
think it would be good maybe once a year...please keep in mind the
Censors are probably the busiest magistrates in Nova Roma and we have
alot of responsibilities that we MUST accomplish.

> I guess that could be another censor's obligation, but maybe senate
> or censor can establish a special office to manage it.

Well, in my honest opinion, I dont think so, the reason is much of the
information needed to prepare such statistics would require access to
confidential information. However, most of the information you
requested above is easily accessible via the NR website. All one needs
to do is to point, click and scroll and that information is accessible

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

> Valete
>
> Gaius Marcius Coriolanus
> *************************
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>
>
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem X Kalendas Aprilias (March 23)
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:36:14 -0000

Salvete omnes

This is a dies nefastus publicus (NP), a day for special religious
observance when no
legal business can take place.

The Tubilustrium mars the fifth and last day of the Quinquatrus, sacred to
Mars and Minerva. On this day the trumpets (tubae) are purified. This
trumpets are used in religious ceremonies. The priests who play the trumpets
are the "Tibicines Sacrorum populi romani".
An ewe is sacrificed to Nerio Martis (the Force of Mars).

This is the eighth day of a nine-day fast for the worshipers of Cybele,
leading up to the Day of Blood on March 24th.

Mensis Martius is the month of Mars.

Valete bene in pace deorum
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex


Subject:	[novaroma] Citizen Count Achievement
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:11:21 -0800

Ave,

Yesterday we crossed another milestone in the history of Nova Roma. We
achieved citizen number 800!

I am so pleased that we have achieved such dramatic growth in Nova
Roma.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor of Nova Roma


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Astrology: bibliography
From:	SkaldElf@--------
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:08:18 EST

Ave,

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vale,
Aeternia

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	[novaroma] Another new citizen
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:18:12 -0800 (PST)

Salve,

My name is Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (real name:
Dennis Temmerman) and I am now officially a proud
citizen of Nova Roma. I currently live in Belgium
(near the beautiful city of Ghent). I am a history
student at the university of Ghent and I am already a
few years 'addicted' to ancient Rome. My nickname in
my emailadress is currently not a symbol for any
ambitions, but maybe in the future I would like to
start a political career.

My main interests are Latin literature (in
translation, since I know not enough Latin to read and
comprehend those texts) and the Roman military.

The early republic of Rome is the time period I like
most, because of the pure virtus there was in that
period. I dislike the period of the emperors for their
total lack of virtue, and I am therefore happy to see
that Nova Roma is a republic and not an empire.

If anyone has more questions or would like to talk to
me about something, you can contact me privately at my
other emailadress: metalrules@--------
This is because I would like to use this emailadress
only for the emaillists of Nova Roma.

My sincere greetings to all citizens,
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix

For all people who understand Dutch, I have a website
about ancient Rome in Dutch:
http://www.geocities.com/consulromanus

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Subject:	RE: [novaroma] New citizen
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:02:39 -0500

Salvete;

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oppius Flaccus Severus [mailto:oppiusflaccus@--------]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 02:44
>
> There is a good deal to see and do here in
> Nova Roma and many avenues for participation. Consul Germanice has put
together
> an excellent introductory site and of course our main site has many good
links
> to our various Sodalitas, Religion and other areas of interest.

Well, shucks! Another chance to plug my website (which will hopefully be
linked or mirrored on the main website eventually):

http://www.goldenfuture.net/mediatlantica/whatnow

Any questions it doesn't answer? Anything you'd like to see up there? Let me
know...

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus in the film "Spartacus")

email: germanicus@--------
AIM: Flavius Vedius
www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Citizen Count Achievement
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:58 -0500

Salvete,

I cannot sufficiently express my satisfaction with Nova Roma's growth over
the last three years. Our attempt to restore the ancient Roman republic has
been more successful than anyone could have imagined. Our on-line community
is thriving, our "real world" gatherings are becoming more and more numerous
every day, our land fund and endowment are being established, we are about
to make an impact in academia, and we seem poised for an explosion in size
and activity.

Thanks to everyone who has helped Nova Roma prosper. Next year in the Forum!

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul, Nova Roma

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus in the film "Spartacus")

email: germanicus@--------
AIM: Flavius Vedius
www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix [mailto:alexious@--------]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 06:11
> To: novaroma@--------
> Subject: [novaroma] Citizen Count Achievement
>
>
> Ave,
>
> Yesterday we crossed another milestone in the history of Nova Roma. We
> achieved citizen number 800!
>
> I am so pleased that we have achieved such dramatic growth in Nova
> Roma.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Censor of Nova Roma


Subject:	[novaroma] Re:: Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Teleri ferch Nyfain" <rckovak@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:36:30 -0500

Salvete,

I agree - coins honoring our consuls would be very faithful to Roman
tradition and might very well interest serious coin collectors (thereby
enriching our coffers).

<<<we should have a long-term plan to produce coins covering the first three
years' consuls.
L. Sergius Aust. Obst.>>>

Valete
Helena Galeria


Subject:	[novaroma] ATTN: Call for Candidates for Tribunus Plebis
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:49:11 -0600

Tribunus Plebis T Labienus Quiritibus SPD

I am hereby officially requesting interested cives to declare themselves
as candidates for the open position of tribunus plebis. I will accept
candidates until 1 PM, official Nova Roma time (GMT+1), pr Kal Apr
(March 31).

The obligations and powers of the tribuni plebis can be found in section
IV.A.7 of the Constitution (
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/constitution_new2.html ).

Qualifications for tribunus plebis are as follows:
1. You must be plebeian.
2. You must have been a civis for at least 6 months by a d III Id Apr
(April 11).
3. You must be at least 25 years old. If you are not of age, then
you must receive a special dispensation from both censores and the
Senate *before* you declare your candidacy.
4. You must be willing to swear the Oath of Office, the text of which
can be found at http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/lex99191002.html .

Due to time pressures, I ask qualified applicants to declare their
candidacy both privately to me (to ensure that I get their names on the
ballot) and publicly (to alert the populace and begin campaigning). I
will not place unqualified candidates on the ballot.

Valete


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Another new citizen
From:	"S. Apollonius Draco" <hendrik.meuleman@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:41:52 +0100

Salve frater,

A resounding welcome to our gens and our province!

Vale bene,
Draco

> Salve,
>
> My name is Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (real name:
> Dennis Temmerman) and I am now officially a proud
> citizen of Nova Roma. I currently live in Belgium
> (near the beautiful city of Ghent). I am a history
> student at the university of Ghent and I am already a
> few years 'addicted' to ancient Rome. My nickname in
> my emailadress is currently not a symbol for any
> ambitions, but maybe in the future I would like to
> start a political career.
>
> My main interests are Latin literature (in
> translation, since I know not enough Latin to read and
> comprehend those texts) and the Roman military.
>
> The early republic of Rome is the time period I like
> most, because of the pure virtus there was in that
> period. I dislike the period of the emperors for their
> total lack of virtue, and I am therefore happy to see
> that Nova Roma is a republic and not an empire.
>
> If anyone has more questions or would like to talk to
> me about something, you can contact me privately at my
> other emailadress: metalrules@--------
> This is because I would like to use this emailadress
> only for the emaillists of Nova Roma.
>
>
> My sincere greetings to all citizens,
> Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
>
>
> For all people who understand Dutch, I have a website
> about ancient Rome in Dutch:
> http://www.geocities.com/consulromanus
>
> =====
> "De te autem, Catilina, cum quiescunt, probant; cum patiuntur, decernunt;
cum tacent, clamant." (M. Tullius Cicero: In Catilinam I, 20)
>
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>


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Tidying up the Constitution
From:	"S. Apollonius Draco" <hendrik.meuleman@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:43:06 +0100

Salve Consul Vedi,

How about that proposal of mine to amend the Lex Iunia de M.A.? I believe
you still have it collecting dust in your mail archives somewhere ;-). If
you've lost it, I'd be happy to resend it.

Vale bene,
Draco


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Tidying up the Constitution
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:13:10 -0500

Salve;

> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. Apollonius Draco [mailto:hendrik.meuleman@--------]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:43
>
> How about that proposal of mine to amend the Lex Iunia de M.A.? I believe
> you still have it collecting dust in your mail archives somewhere ;-). If
> you've lost it, I'd be happy to resend it.

That really wouldn't be relevant to the Constitutional amendments I was
talking about. But please do re-send it to me off-list
(germanicus@--------). I'm sure I have it, but I've got literally 2,500
emails in my inbox (that's just from the last 30 days; my archives are about
10,000 emails and growing).

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul

"For Gracchus, hatred of the Patrician class is a profession, and not such a
bad one." (Crassus in the film "Spartacus")

email: germanicus@--------
AIM: Flavius Vedius
www: http://mediatlantica.novaroma.org


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Pompeia Cornelia" <scriba_forum@-------->
Date:	Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:15:11 -0000

Salvete Consul Cassius et Populus Nova Roma:

This is truly exciting!! I love the coin.......love it!

My compliments to whomever designed it. You have done well!
Further, my gratitude to the Senate who voted to make this undertaking a go.

What more concrete way exists to promote ourselves as a bona fide nation in
our own right, than by our own coinage?

Ave Nova Roma!

Pompeia Cornelia
Propraetrix, Canada Orientalis
Nova Roma

>From: cassius622@--------
>Reply-To: novaroma@--------
>To: novaroma@--------
>Subject: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:49:01 EST
>
>Salvete Omnes,
>
>It is my great pleasure to announce that Nova Roma coinage is officially on
>order, and will be available in about four weeks!
>
>The coins will be die stamped of bronze, and will be the size of a U.S.
>half
>dollar. The design can be seen online at:
>
>http://www.novaroma.org/images/NRCoinFinal.jpg
>
>The first run will be 5,000 coins. The plan is that these coins will be
>available at a bargain price, and will actually be usable for trade at live
>events, etc. The dies for the coins are in production now, and a lead
>"proof" from the dies should arrive in another week and a half or so. I'll
>scan the image of the proof and will put that online as well. From that
>point
>it'll only be another couple of weeks before the coins are available in the
>Macellum!
>
>The prospect of finally having coinage on hand is an exciting one. Not only
>will they be useful at live events, (far more interesting than food
>tickets,
>or whatever!) they are of course a well known symbol of sovereignty.
>
>It takes some organization and dedication to carry out such a project.
>Usable
>coinage (rather than merely commemorative coinage) will help to show that
>Nova Roma has the ability to provide tangible tangible, real world
>infrastructure. At last all Citizens of Nova Roma will have the opportunity
>to "hold a piece of Nova Roma in their hand!"
>
>More details about coinage will be available in the next few weeks. If
>anyone
>has questions, feel free to contact me directly or post to the list.
>
>Valete,
>
>Marcus Cassius Julianus
>Consul
>
>
>
>
>
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>

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)
From:	"Domna Claudia Auspicata" <comptess@-------->
Date:	Sat, 24 Mar 2001 09:49:33 +1200

Salvete NovaRomani!

The coins are a wonderful idea and truly beautiful! I am no coin collector myself but I look forward to displaying a NovaRoman coin next to my one and only RomaAntiqua coin (a silver Republican denarius featuring Concordia). I only hope they don't cost too much more to ship all the way to New Zealand!

As far as ideas go for future productions, I would suggest we keep in line with the Republic of old and depict only images of our gods and goddesses on them, there are certainly plenty to choose from. Perhaps Roma could be next? What do you all think?

Valete!
Domna Claudia Auspicata
----- Original Message -----
From: LSergAust@--------
To: novaroma@--------
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Coins are in production! :)

Salve

Great idea! Would it be feasible to have the profiles of the consuls on
the coins (or at the very least, their names)?

If this were actually to become an ongoing annual series, we might well
generate some interest among serious coin collectors, thus establishing
our identity among another group worldwide.

While not a serious coin collector, I would certainly start a collection
of consular coins.

Vale,

L. Sergius Aust. Obst.

On 3/22/01 7:23 AM Flavius Vedius Germanicus (germanicus@--------)
wrote:

>Salve;
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amulius Equitius [mailto:Maximus@--------]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 22:46
>>
>> The idea of having actual coinage is an
>> exciting idea. The question I have is what will the
>> currency be called? The US has the dollar, Britian
>> has the pound, Mexico has the peso, Nova Roma has
>> the...
>
>Sesterce!
>
>(There is also talk, if the first batch of coins proves successful, of
>producing a limited-run 5 sesterce coin as an "annual collector's edition";
>something that each year's Consuls could do to commemorate their term of
>office. Any thoughts?)
>
>Vale,
>
>Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
>Consul
>

certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)


Subject:	[novaroma] Return From Survey Week
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:48:21 -0500 (EST)

Salvete, Friends and Citizens;

Just a note to tell you that I have returned this P.M. from the subject
week. It was a most successful venture from several aspects, and my
enjoyment of the respite was unqualified.

I had some 80+ messages upon my return awaiting me, and the large
majority of those were digest messages which held in thier turn up to 25
messages, so I have been thrashing through a large volume of mail.

I will respond to individual personl messages as soon as I can get to
them, and to concerns of the micronations will of course will always
demand my first attention.

In the coming day or two, I will be making my After Action Reports of
the reenactment military surveys undertaken by the Engineers during the
Newport Event. Should anyone be interested contact me personnaly and I
will be pleased to add you to the message list.

I am also pleased to note that it was possible to have a face-to-face
meeting with two members of Nova Roma, which was most enjoyable and
rewarding. More about that meeting at a later time. I am pleased to be
back and my best wishes to you all.

Valete, Respectfully;
Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary


Subject:	[novaroma] my candidacy for the position of Tribunus plebis
From:	octavianuslucius@--------
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:07:50 -0000

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus omnibus quiritibus S.P.D.

I do hereby declare my candidacy to the position of tribunus plebis.

Vale bene et curas ut valeas.


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Statistic sumary
From:	"Marcos Boehme" <m_arminius@-------->
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:09:07 -0300

Salve, Gaius

Im interested in novaroman demographics too. Periodically, i copy the Album Civium and count all the citizens, to see how many citizens are in each province, with the current governor. My last count was of 18/mar, and the results are in:
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/nrbras/nr4.htm
However, the results are unnofficial, since it isnt my duty to do this, it only result of my curiosity...

Marcus Arminius Maior
Praetor, provincia Brasilia
Aedilis Plebis

--
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:33:26
gaiuscoriolanus wrote:
>Salvete omnes
>
>Is there a some kind of statistic sumary that contains brief list of
>
>current number of citizens
>number citizens in each provincia
>in/out flow information
>men/women information
>number of members of each gens (but that is in album gentium)
>patrician/plebeian information
>number of ordo equester citizens
>
>and some other informations
>
>in Nova Roma page?
>
>And if it is not I think, that it will be good to make it, and
>publish for example three or four times a year. It will help to watch
>demographic evolution of Nova Roma Population.
>
>I guess that could be another censor's obligation, but maybe senate
>or censor can establish a special office to manage it.
>
>
>Valete
>
>Gaius Marcius Coriolanus
>*************************
>Paterfamilias Gens Marcia
>Legatus Pannoniae Inferioris

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