Subject: [novaroma] Cogratulations Gladiator!
From: Claudia Octaviana <claudia_octaviana@-------->
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:04:49 -0800 (PST)
Rome has risen again to prove that the greatest era in
history still has sex appeal.

Upon the announcement "And the oscar goes
to,,,,,,Gladiator!" Russel Crowe
immediately stood up and I thought he was going to
raise his Best Actor oscar and
shout "Roma Victor!" Only the chief executive producer
exclaimed "Strength and Honor!"

All of us Neo Romans can be proud and stand up and be
counted with pride. Not only because our movie won 5
oscars, but we can be proud to represent
the greatest era in human history.

With Honor and Pride,

Claudia Octaviana Califia
Praefectus Legionis
LEG XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Provinicus Terra Occasus Infra
ROME
Nova Roma

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Subject: [novaroma] RE: Prayers for the Dead
From: "Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:24:53 +0100
Salve Caecilia

I'm sad for your loss and offer my support in this difficult moment.

Here are some rituals performed by the Romans upon the death of a relative.

1) Day of death:
a) After closing the eyes of the deceased, one calls the deceased in order
to be assured that he is really dead, and to assure the dead that he will
have the due funeral rites which allow him to rest.
b) The deceased is laid on the ground. The body of the deceased is washed
with warm water. He is parfumed with cedar oil, honey, myrrh and other
products.
c) The deceased is dressed with rich clothes and is made to wear any signs
of dignity (medals, etc.). In Rome, the toga would be a must.
d) A coin is put inside the mouth of the deceased, so that he can pay Charon
for the passage of the Styx.
e) The deceased is laid on a parade couch, decorated with flowers and
garlands.
f) While the incense is burnt, crying-women (sometimes hired) cry at the
sound of flutes. Goddess Nania presides to the lamentations.
g) The face of the deceased is reproduced on a wax mask ('imago'), which is
attached on a platform of wood and put at the most visible place of the
house. From now on, the deceased will be one of the household deities (one
of the Dii Manes, to be more specific) and will watch over the house and the
family.

2) One week after the death, the corpse is taken to be buried or cremated.
a) A sacrifice is performed in honour of Ceres (at least one part of the
sacrifice is performed in presence of the deceased, or his 'imago'). The
house is swept with a special broom to remove the stains.
b) The funeral convoy is led by musicians. The sons are veiled, the
daughters have the head uncovered, all dressed in black. Some men represent
the ancestors, carrying their 'imagi' and wearing their toga pretexta (of
the Consules and Praetores) or the purple dress (of the Censores or
triumphing generals), the fasces and all other signs of dignity achieved by
those characters. These lead the deceased. The 'imago' of the deceased is
displayed on the funerary couch, which is also carried on a chariot,
preceded by a torch-bearer. In this way, the deceased escort the deceased to
his last home.
c) At the place of burial/cremation, the eyes of the deceased are veiled,
for tradition forbids his eyes to be shown to the sky. After a last call,
the corpse ir buried or burnt.
d) After the ceremony, a crying-woman dismisses the funeral by saying
"Ilicet!" (= We can go!). People say a last 'Vale!' or 'Vale bene!'
e) If the body is cremated, the family members, after washing their hands,
take the bones on the folds of their balck clothes, sprinkle the bones with
wine and milk, cover them with a thin flax, and enclose on a marble box. A
previously cut finger is then buried in place of the corpse.
f) If the body is buried, the celebration usually takes place at night,
illuminated by torches.
g) Before departing, people walk around the tomb, honoured as a temple
(probably performing the 'adoratio'), and a first homage is paid to declare
that the deceased has become a God.
h) Upon returning from the ceremony, the audience is purifies with water,
fire and sulphur. A ram is sacrificed to the Lar Familiaris.
i) People share a meal (silicernium) whose menu was fixed by tradition:
eggs, beans, lenses, poultries.

3) A number of holidays follows ('dies denicales'), in which not even the
animals work. On the ninth day after the funeral ('novemdial'), libations of
wine and milk are offered to the Manes. This sacrifice is followed by a
meal, for which one takes off the mourning clothes. Funeral games (e.g.
gladiatorial games) could also take place.


There were other practices of expiation when the corpse was not available,
or when one was murdered. I believe this is not the case. Anyway, I can
provide you the needed info if you need. In case you are really planning to
do a ritual and have doubts on the above, please feel free to ask me
publicly or privately. Also, maybe other Pontifices have more items to add..

Vale bene in pace deorum
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex

>The head of my family (not my familias) died this morning. Does
>anyone know of any Roman prayers for the dead or rituals to that
>effect I can do?
>Caecilia Livia






Subject: Re: [novaroma] Candidate for the position as Rogatorus
From: Christer Edling <tjalens.h@-------->
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:08:07 +0200
>Salve
>
>I, Titus Curius Dannicus place myself before you to
>declare my candidacy for Rogatorus.
>
>I will work as Rogatorus as outlined in the Rogator's
>handbook.
>
>I ask you to let me contibute to the service of our
>great Micro Nation. It would be an honour for me to
>fill in this position as Rogatorus.
>
>A little about myself:
>
>I'm 39 years old and serve as an officer in the
>Danish army. I have been a soldier for 19 years, most
>of the time as NCO or officer. I have been citizen for
>about 9 month.
>
>I hope you will take me into your consideration.
>
>Vale
>
>Respectfully
>
>Titus Curius Dannicus
>Paterfamilias of the gens of Curia


Salve Omnes!

I want to stand by my friend and "neighbour"! I recommend all to vote for
him as he is very dedicated and loyal!

Vale

Christer Edling
alias
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Quaestor of Nova Roma
Accensus to Consul Marcus Cassius Julianus
cives Provincia Thule

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Call for candidates: Rogatorus
From: Kristoffer From <kristoffer.from@-------->
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:04:50 +0200

Ave, consuls.

Ave, quirites.

I apologize if my candidacy has offended the laws and customs of our
beloved Res Publica, and since I've learned that there already are
several other candidates, surely better qualified then myself, I
withdraw my supplication.

The main reason I posted my application, was that I believed there were
no other candidates, and though I'm new to Nova Roma, I felt that this
was an opportunity to prove myself to the cives. I'm also rather
proficient in the use of computers, so I felt I might be qualified for
the duties, albeit inexperienced in the worldy matters thereof.

I thank you for your frank appraisal of my chances, Curatrix Priscilla
Vedia Serena, and I appreciate you going to the effort.

Vale,

Titus Octavius Pius,
cives Thuleus

AKA Kristoffer From

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Si hoc signum legere potes,
operis boni in rebus latinis alacribus
et fructuosis potiri potes.

- Not-so-famous quotation


Subject: [novaroma] Gladiator and Legio recruitment
From: "Paul" <Dragoon_trooper@-------->
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:30:06 -0000
Salve Fellow Romans,
"Roma Victa" to Russell Crowe and Gladiator. As Legio V Alaudae's Primus Pilus Centurio, I hope that Gladiator pays off in the recruitment department. I can look back on the Fall of the Roman Empire, Spartacus, Ben-Hur as awe inspiring glimpses into Rome. I hope that Gladiator will spark some interest in reenacting Mater Roma's Legions.
Ave,
Gaius Atilius Lepidus



Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Another thought about taxation
From: "S. Apollonius Draco" <hendrik.meuleman@-------->
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:05:47 +0200

>
> Salvete omnes
>
> I agree with Germanicus that taxation will seem to be necessary in a
> short time.
> But Drusus said things, that I must think of too. Average income in
> US and average income in some east european provinces are very
> different. I guess that it would be somehow considered in tax
> estimating.
>
> And Germanicus idea about proletarii.
> Well, I can not shake off feeling that it is a way to concentrate all
> power in the hands of several citizens.


I'd have to agree with what Rufus is saying here. What if some people forget
to pay? Or if some money just doesn't arrive at its destination? Such cives
would be unjustly placed into such a large century. And I find love for Nova
Roma hard to express in cash.

Non-American cives will also have extra costs: converting currencies,
sending the money. Money can get lost, too, especially on intercontinental
trips. That is why I'm strongly in favour of continental taxes, id est there
be an American, a European, a South American, Asian... treasury. In this
way, cives would be able to exercise reasonable control over what happens
with their own money. I also propose that a survey be conducted in the
provinciae concerning taxes, as happened in Britannia earlier. I'm in the
process of trying to do this in Gallia (as procurator) but our propraetor is
appearently absent.

Valete bene!
Draco