Subject: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: lsicinius@--------
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:45:52 -0000
--- In novaroma@--------, CmndrZil@a... wrote:
>
> Oppius Flaccus said:
>
> << For others, we are getting little or no mail and
> anything we post is not received or not posted
> until 10 or 12 hours later. >>
>
> Being new and all, I will refrain from spouting too much sarcasm.
I'm not
> sure how much I can get away with yet. I just want to be clear
though...
> You're complaining because of 10 to 12 hours of waiting, right? If
so, you
> need to go outside. Just turn off the computer, maybe find some
gainful
> employment, take a course at a community college, anything at all,
just leave
> the internet and the high tech world of poor service and speed.
Patience is
> a virtue. (One that I have not mastered, but a virtue nonetheless.)
>
>
> Tarquinia Euphemia

Salvete,

I disagree with these sentiments.
Since Nova Roma depends on the Internet to a degree that few other
organizations do, prompt message service is a nessicity. The current
service we are reciving from Yahoo is a joke.

I'm making this post direct on the Yahoo site because I'm reciving
allmost NONE of the posts made to this group. I just compared my in
box to this list and the last 20 posts are missing. For Thursday 67
posts show on this site. I recived 10 of them. The really bad part is
I recive these posts in a Yahoo mailbox! They can't even deliver the
mail to thier own yahoo.com boxes. (No I not over the 6 M limit)

If Yahoo can't provide a decent level of service then it's time to
look for alternatives.

Valete,
L. Sicinius Drusus


Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: "JusticeCMO" <justicecmo@-------->
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:39:55 -0400
Salve,

>>If Yahoo can't provide a decent level of service then it's time to
look for alternatives.

Valete,
L. Sicinius Drusus>>

While I sympathize with your plight, I have to point out that the problems
with Yahoo have been rare and impacted on a small number of list members.
Now, that is not to say that your problem is not vexing and one that I wish
you were not suffering through, but for you to put forward that yahoo's
entire service is a joke simply because a few people have suffered a rare
mail outage for a day or so is rather extreme.

I stand ready to assist you in any way that I can, but please realize that
for the vast majority of our 409 list members the service has been quite
satisfactory. As I stated elsewhere the other day, if outages and such
become more frequent I am quite open to alternatives. In the meantime,
Yahoo serves our needs quite well.

Vale,
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Subject: [novaroma] Taxes and Penalties
From: lsicinius@--------
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 01:45:00 -0000
Salvete Omnes,

A few thoughts on the proposed lex.

I consider this to be a voluntary tax. The Consuls or the Praetors
can't order a cohort to come out and seize my house or my car if I
fail to pay. I'm not going to be hauled off to Prison for refusing to
pay my taxes. There is NOTHING that Nova Roma can do to force me to
pay whatever sum the Senatus decides on.

The fact that refusing to pay this tax may have consequences that I do
not like does nothing to change the fact that this tax is voluntary.
All actions have consequences attached to them. If I decide to go get
drunk tonight, that is a voluntary decision. That I may dislike the
consequences (Hangover) does nothing to change the voluntary nature of
my decision to drink or not to drink tonight.

Now what are the consequences of failing to pay this voluntary tax, or
membership dues. If the Lex passes I can't hold office and my vote
doesn't count as much as the votes of those who pay thier fair share.
That's very mild. In most organizations the result would be I couldn't
hold office or vote, because you have to be a member to do either, and
I'd no longer be a member of the organization. We aren't striking any
names from the Album Civium, we aren't removing the right to vote. You
would still be a Nova Roman citizen who could vote. We are following
the example set by the Republic, and placing those who
don't pay taxes in the Capatie Censi where thier vote counts less than
that of those who do pay taxes. We may be exceeding the ancient
republic by stripping the Capatie Censi of the Jus Honorum, the right
to stand for office.

I'm not aware of any Leges that prohibited the Capatie Censi from
holding office. According to Suetonius, Divus Julius actually admitted
common soldiers into the Senatus, and these men were almost certainly
members of the Capatie Censi. However from a practical viewpoint,
since there was almost no chance of the head count attaining office,
they were effectively banned during the Republic. It was a de facto
rather than a de jure ban, but it existed until the Republic was dying.

The Lex Vedia de assidui et capiti censi is an excellent law. It
blends the traditions of the Romans with the realties of the modern
world. It's mild penalties towards those who fail to pay thier taxes
are an example that other organizations should follow, and I look
forward to voting in favor of this lex later this month, and urge my
fellow citizens to do likewise.

Valete,
L. Sicinius Drusus


Subject: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: lsicinius@--------
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 02:09:39 -0000
--- In novaroma@--------, "JusticeCMO" <justicecmo@g...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> >>If Yahoo can't provide a decent level of service then it's time to
> look for alternatives.
>
> Valete,
> L. Sicinius Drusus>>
>
> While I sympathize with your plight, I have to point out that the
problems
> with Yahoo have been rare and impacted on a small number of list
members.
> Now, that is not to say that your problem is not vexing and one that
I wish
> you were not suffering through, but for you to put forward that yahoo's
> entire service is a joke simply because a few people have suffered a
rare
> mail outage for a day or so is rather extreme.
>
> I stand ready to assist you in any way that I can, but please
realize that
> for the vast majority of our 409 list members the service has been quite
> satisfactory. As I stated elsewhere the other day, if outages and such
> become more frequent I am quite open to alternatives. In the meantime,
> Yahoo serves our needs quite well.
>
> Vale,
> Priscilla Vedia Serena

Salve Priscilla Vedia Serena,
LOL

I don't know how many of our list members are having the same problems
I'm having, and I hope there are few. It's just VERY irrating when you
are on this end.

The boom days of the internet goldrush are over. Soon many free
services like this one will start to disapear or to lose the quality
they had in the past. Services like this are not money makers, they
are intended to draw people to Yahoo's site.

Yahoo may decide that they need to cut costs, like many dot coms are
doing. They may decide to cut back on maintance for this service,
resulting in problems like I'm having becoming more common. They may
decide to scale back this service, or even to discontinue it with
little or no notice.

On December 15, I recived a notice that a web based e-mail service
that I was using would be discontinued on December 31. That caused me
quite a hassle. A Free site that carried my personal web page vanished
with no warning about the same time. So you can see I have reasons to
be edgy about depending on free services.

I Don't think we should jump the gun and set up a new service next
week, however I do think it would be prudent to start exploring the
alternitives now, so that in the event we do have to move the lists,
we will have a plan in place.

Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus




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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Asturias the Great (was Oh Caius Boy)
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@-------->
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT)

--- Piparskeggr Ullarsson <catamount_grange@--------> wrote:

(snipped)

> Axe Ewe Alley, since I am ScotsIrish on my paternal grandmother's
> side,
> I proudly wear ORANGE on Saint Paddy's Day!!! I have low tolerance
> for my "in-laws" who have a soft
> spot for the "Old Sod."
>

Well, if I went to Ireland I wouldn't wear orange. And if I went to
Scotland I woudln't mention sheep. Brits and Eires are a fast-tempered
bunch, if I may say so. Just try to keep these things secret ;-).

In my case, I tend to piss on one of the doors of the 23,567 Irish pubs
that exist solely in central Madrid every Paddy's Day. But I am a
Spaniard, and we have always been well known for our
anarchist-nihilistic-suicidal tendencies :-P.



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Provincial Newsletter Editor (Vestal)
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@-------->
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete omnes!

I didn't pay too much attention to this thread initially, but it seems
that our Vestal is pretty ill indeed. I just wanted to say that I wish
her a swift recovery and a quick return to her daily normal activities.

May all the Gods protect her!

Gnaeus Salix Astur.

--- QFabiusMax@-------- wrote:
> In a message dated 5/3/2001 11:03:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> jmath669642reng@-------- writes:
>
> << If anyone hears from her or becomes informed of her reasons for
> not
> being in communication I would be most pleased and relieved to hear;
> >>
> Salve Marcus Mincius
> The last thing I heard was she was going to go back into the
> hospital, for a
> final procedure.
> I hope she is all right. I pray to mother Vesta to protect her.
> Vale
> Q Fabius Maximus
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Subject: [novaroma] Sorry (was Asturias the Great )
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@-------->
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:49:53 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete omnes.

Sorry. My sole intention was to add a note of humour. That's why I
continued posting to this list. I didn't know I could be offending
anyone. I beg your pardon.

Or is it that you simply don't like my song? I dare you to fare better
than me (privately, if you must) ;-).

Gnaeus Salix Astur

--- Kristoffer From <kristoffer.from@--------> wrote:
> Salvete, oh ye who singest.
>
> I'm quite certain there's a specific sodality list for songs and
> poetry.
> And the private conversation between two citizens should be kept off
> the
> main list as well...oops, sorry. Think I've got a headache. Too many
> pepparkakor, maybe.
>
> Valete,
>
> Titus Octavius Pius,
> Consiliarius Thules,
> Praeco Anarei Thules,
> Scriba to the Curator Araneum
>
> AKA Kristoffer From
>
> ---
>
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>
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] The Singing Nationalist
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@-------->
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:07:49 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete omnes; et salve, Pompeia.

--- trog99@-------- wrote:
> Salve Salix:
>
> Your offering "Oh Caius Boy" is truly the best of the bunch. How
> delicious!
>
> Nova Roma has its very first "singing natonalist" in you G. Salix
> Astur!
>
> I am having a wonderful time sitting at my computer in hysterics!
>
> Thanks :) We need to have some levity on this list from time to
> time.
>
> Pompeia

Thank you very much for all your support. I really appreciate this.

Nonetheless, I think I'll save my levity for the Sodalitas Musarum's
contests. I guess I should try to give back to the Muses what they gave
me.

BTW, even if you don't believe it, I composed those three songs while I
posted them. If that weren't the Muses, I simply don't know what may
have it been.



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: Michel <loos@-------->
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 03:17:19 -0300
JusticeCMO wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> >>If Yahoo can't provide a decent level of service then it's time to
> look for alternatives.
>
> Valete,
> L. Sicinius Drusus>>
>
> While I sympathize with your plight, I have to point out that the problems
> with Yahoo have been rare and impacted on a small number of list members.
> Now, that is not to say that your problem is not vexing and one that I wish
> you were not suffering through, but for you to put forward that yahoo's
> entire service is a joke simply because a few people have suffered a rare
> mail outage for a day or so is rather extreme.

It is not a day or so, two weeks is a rather long time.
And this happened various times the last couple of monthes.
I get at best 1 post out of 2.

Manius Villius Limitanus


>
> I stand ready to assist you in any way that I can, but please realize that
> for the vast majority of our 409 list members the service has been quite
> satisfactory. As I stated elsewhere the other day, if outages and such
> become more frequent I am quite open to alternatives. In the meantime,
> Yahoo serves our needs quite well.
>
> Vale,
> Priscilla Vedia Serena
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Pay Pal security question
From: "Master BlackWulf" <sergeantsir@-------->
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 07:02:31 -0000
Ave,

I have a friend that does an e-business on the internet and had had severe
problems with paypal and does not any longer endorse or use it. There is an
article on it and I will try and find it and post it.

Marcus Maximus Arius


>From: "L. Cornelius Sulla Felix" <alexious@-------->
>Reply-To: novaroma@--------
>To: <novaroma@-------->
>Subject: Re: [novaroma] Pay Pal security question
>Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:05:53 -0700
>
>on 5/1/01 11:31 AM, Navarra Reid at optabilis@-------- wrote:
>
> > Salve Omnes:
> >
> > Could someone tell me how secure the Pay Pal system is?
> >
> > Also, I imagine this has been covered, but...Are the proposed taxes of
>$12
> > in American funds only? I live in Canada (nuff said).
> >
> > Appia Claudia Indagatrix
> > materfamilias gens Claudia
> >
>
>Ave,
>
>While everything on the Net isnt 100% secure....I trust Paypal...I have
>used
>it at least 30 times this year alone...not to mention at least 50 times
>last
>year...and I have never had a problem with it. I pay for most of my
>purchases on Ebay through PayPal....its very convinent.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@-------->
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 01:03:26 -0700


Michel wrote:
>
> JusticeCMO wrote:
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > >>If Yahoo can't provide a decent level of service then it's time to
> > look for alternatives.
> >
> > Valete,
> > L. Sicinius Drusus>>
> >
> > While I sympathize with your plight, I have to point out that the problems
> > with Yahoo have been rare and impacted on a small number of list members.
> > Now, that is not to say that your problem is not vexing and one that I wish
> > you were not suffering through, but for you to put forward that yahoo's
> > entire service is a joke simply because a few people have suffered a rare
> > mail outage for a day or so is rather extreme.
>
> It is not a day or so, two weeks is a rather long time.
> And this happened various times the last couple of monthes.
> I get at best 1 post out of 2.
>
> Manius Villius Limitanus

Ave,

I also must voice my concern with Yahoo too. I apologize Priscilla, but
I respectfully disagree...this has been going on for almost a week for
me...if not more...and I really think we should at least think of some
alternatives in this. I know Yahoo has excellent features...but what
use are they if we dont get all of the messages..or even half of the
messages. Maybe we should create a Poll and get some feedback?

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix



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Subject: [novaroma] Two issues
From: gcassiusnerva@--------
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:00:16 EDT
Salvete!

Now that I'm back from Germany, there were two issues I wanted to comment
on.

Shortly after I left, there was some discussion on whether or not NR should
take a stand against slavery. This is a safe enough issue; I doubt we have
anyone who is in favor of slavery.

I'm opposed to this however. What other issues then would NR have to take
sides on? Should NR come out in favor of the Kyoto treaty? What about UN
intervention in various world trouble spots? Will NR have to take a stand on
abortion too?

I encourage NR members to get involved in any issues they are concerned
with---as individuals. But let's leave NR out of it.

Another issue is the Religio and tax money, which L. Sinicius Drusus
commented on on April 21 and which unfortunately got little response. I
think one of the downsides of polytheism is that the adherent is bound to
support several religious institutions instead of just one! But seriously, I
am opposed to any tax money being used for the maintainence and propogation
of the Religio. If the Religio is important to those who practice it,
certainly the practioners will take personal reponsibility for making funds
available. I do not believe in asking anyone to contribute to any religious
institutions other than their own.

If the religio needs money, there could be a separate fund onto which
practioners could make their own contributions.

Comments invited!

Gaius Cassius Nerva


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Subject: [novaroma] Age
From: Kristoffer From <kristoffer.from@-------->
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:37:10 +0200
JusticeCMO wrote:
> > IIIb. Citizens under the age of 25 and above the age of 65.>>
>
> This is just silly! I can see a student tax rate, but why on earth should
> youth alone gain you a tax break?? I also cannot let this pass without the
> comment that I find it very odd coming from you of all people. You have made
> such a case for youth not impacting ability to function, and yet now you'd
> like to not have to pay taxes? I think not. There are many 22 year old
> married couples raising children, as well as many 70 year olds traveling the
> world and doing quite well. I'll say it again, if you cannot afford the
> taxes, perhaps you need to consider you priorities.

Salvete, Priscilla Vedia Serena et omnes.

Just thought I'd start a discussion, which surely has been brought up
before. I haven't read through all the archives yet, though, so I'll
speak up anyway.

Age restrictions. Currently, as far as I'm aware, any citizen, of any
age, may vote. However, most offices won't accept applicants below the
age of 21. How about making this the age when one gets to vote as well?
A "majority", of sorts. Until you're 21, you're considered a child/a
youth, you don't have to pay taxes, but neither do you get to be elected
into office. You may still serve as an appointed official, such as
scriba, but until you've "come into your own", you won't be trusted in
an office. Comments?

Valete,

Titus Octavius Pius,
Consiliarius Thules,
Praeco Anarei Thules,
Scriba to the Curator Araneum

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Dacian Wars Question
From: QFabiusMax@--------
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:31:23 EDT
In a message dated 5/5/2001 3:00:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
salixastur@-------- writes:

<< BTW, he brought the enemy commander's head, and was just promoted to
decurio? Promotion was pretty hard in the Roman legions, I guess ;-).
>>
Decurio was a Roman cavalry position. He was with Second Pannonia Ala at the
time of the pursuit.
Vale
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: CmndrZil@--------
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:02:26 EDT

In a message dated 5/5/01 2:18:21 AM, lsicinius@-------- writes:

>I disagree with these sentiments.
>Since Nova Roma depends on the Internet to a degree that few other
>organizations do, prompt message service is a nessicity. The current
>service we are reciving from Yahoo is a joke.
>

Salve,

I think its a statement about our culture and society in general that we
consider internet access as something we NEED. There are people in the world
right now who don't even have food, water, shelter, or basic human rights.
You NEED your email within a few seconds. I don't mean to disparage those to
whom this is a major or minor inconvenience; Yahoo is certainly doing a poor
job, and I'm not excusing that, but at least say its something you desire to
increase your level of happiness/productivity/whatever, not a nessecity.

Tarquinia Euphemia


Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Dacian Wars Question
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@-------->
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:53:12 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete omnes; et salve, Maxime.

--- QFabiusMax@-------- wrote:
> In a message dated 5/5/2001 3:00:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> salixastur@-------- writes:
>
> << BTW, he brought the enemy commander's head, and was just promoted
> to
> decurio? Promotion was pretty hard in the Roman legions, I guess
> ;-).
> >>
> Decurio was a Roman cavalry position. He was with Second Pannonia
> Ala at the
> time of the pursuit.
> Vale
> Q. Fabius Maximus

I have been thinking about the story of the death of Decebalus, and I
remember reading about this cavalry soldier. I received the impression
that 'cavalry' was a kind of specialized position within the Legion,
one you could attain only after serving a cetain time as a common
legionnaire, and that comported a higher status and a higher salary.

Is that impression correct?



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: gcassiusnerva@--------
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:41:49 EDT
In a message dated 5/5/01 2:33:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
CmndrZil@-------- writes:

<< There are people in the world
right now who don't even have food, water, shelter, or basic human rights. >>

Yes, I agree. But the thing is, we are not those people. If there has been
a problem with yahoo for a while, then this must be corrected.

Nerva

Subject: [novaroma] Fragged Hard Drive
From: Marilyn Traber <margali@-------->
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 16:57:28 -0400
Many apologies, I am now reconstructing myself in a brand new
computer. My hard drive fragged itself, and we decided to just
replace instead of fix [we got a great deal on a compaq presario
from the Navy exchange] so I won't have access to all of my
normal offbeat reference links until I can rummage around on the
web and re-find them all. ;-(
Needless to say, i also have to recreate my email address files
as well, which I am doing by incoming emails.

I really hate this! Gone are all my saved links, recipes and
funky references. Gone are my spiffy pictures and files. *sigh*
margali



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Fragged Hard Drive
From: "A. Cato" <a.cato@-------->
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:05:25 -0400
Salve: Ah yes.....! Life can be terrible when one's hard drive takes a
trip. I have gone through the same experience myself in the past, so I
understand what you are going through. Best of luck getting organized again.
Vale, ... A. Cato ... Rogator
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To: <h-costume@-------->; <LC-DIABETES@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>;
<novaroma@-------->; <sca-cooks@ansteorra.org>;
<SCA-Garb@-------->; <SCA-low-carb@-------->;
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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Fragged Hard Drive


> Many apologies, I am now reconstructing myself in a brand new
> computer. My hard drive fragged itself, and we decided to just
> replace instead of fix [we got a great deal on a compaq presario
> from the Navy exchange] so I won't have access to all of my
> normal offbeat reference links until I can rummage around on the
> web and re-find them all. ;-(
> Needless to say, i also have to recreate my email address files
> as well, which I am doing by incoming emails.
>
> I really hate this! Gone are all my saved links, recipes and
> funky references. Gone are my spiffy pictures and files. *sigh*
> margali
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Dacian Wars Question
From: Michel <loos@-------->
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:14:23 -0300
Gnaeus Salix Astur wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes; et salve, Maxime.
>
> --- QFabiusMax@-------- wrote:
> > In a message dated 5/5/2001 3:00:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > salixastur@-------- writes:
> >
> > << BTW, he brought the enemy commander's head, and was just promoted
> > to
> > decurio? Promotion was pretty hard in the Roman legions, I guess
> > ;-).
> > >>
> > Decurio was a Roman cavalry position. He was with Second Pannonia
> > Ala at the
> > time of the pursuit.
> > Vale
> > Q. Fabius Maximus
>
> I have been thinking about the story of the death of Decebalus, and I
> remember reading about this cavalry soldier. I received the impression
> that 'cavalry' was a kind of specialized position within the Legion,
> one you could attain only after serving a cetain time as a common
> legionnaire, and that comported a higher status and a higher salary.
>
> Is that impression correct?
>

No, this is not correct.
Under the republic (pre-Marian reform) the cavalary was reserved to the
citizens with a certain wealth, while the poorer were in the legions.
Later, the cavalry was mostly allied, mercenarry or locally recruted
like
here: In Pannonia and only an Ala not an integral part of the legion.

Manius Villius Limitanus

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Subject: [novaroma] Re: posting issues with the list
From: lsicinius@--------
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 23:22:08 -0000
--- In novaroma@--------, CmndrZil@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/5/01 2:18:21 AM, lsicinius@-------- writes:
>
> >I disagree with these sentiments.
> >Since Nova Roma depends on the Internet to a degree that few other
> >organizations do, prompt message service is a nessicity. The current
> >service we are reciving from Yahoo is a joke.
> >
>
> Salve,
>
> I think its a statement about our culture and society in general
that we
> consider internet access as something we NEED. There are people in
the world
> right now who don't even have food, water, shelter, or basic human
rights.
> You NEED your email within a few seconds. I don't mean to disparage
those to
> whom this is a major or minor inconvenience; Yahoo is certainly
doing a poor
> job, and I'm not excusing that, but at least say its something you
desire to
> increase your level of happiness/productivity/whatever, not a
nessecity.
>
> Tarquinia Euphemia

Salve,

I Have visited Asia and Africa, so I've seen poverity on a scale that
few in the west can dream of. Most of the horrid conditions are caused
by corrupt governments, and a culture that clings to outmoded ideas.
This may sound hard, but the truth often is, If these people aren't
willing to leave these areas, or rise up in bloody revolt against
those who are causing them to live at this level, they deserve the
lifestyle they have.

I was born into what passes for poverity in the USA. I still remember
the day they installed a wonderful device in our house. It was called
a hot water heater. It was pure magic! To be able to just turn on the
tap and have hot water in seconds rather than waiting for the water to
boil on the stove. Of course when my cousins came to vist they thought
we were really wealthy since we had this luxary in addition to piped
in water rather than a well and an indoor bathroom rather than the
outhouse they used.

My parents were teenagers when I was born. They WORKED thier way out
of poverity rather than whining about being poor and waiting for
someone to come along and give them a middle class lifestyle. I don't
waste my time worrying over those who aren't willing to do what my
parents proved can be done. My concern is with those who are trying to
better themselves.

I've seen what passes for poverity in the west first hand, and I'll
tell you flat out, The vast majority of the "poor" (execpting
children) bought that condition apon themselves by choices they made
in the past, and will continue to live in poverity because they will
continue to make poor choices.

If we restrict the use of the word need to the bare minimum for
survival, they all anyone NEEDS is a cave, a bearskin, and spear with
a flint point. I can't say I need a car to get to work, because I
could spend about 5 hours each day WALKING to work and another 5
walking home, or seek a lower paying job that would only require a
couple of hours of walking each day.

I will not restrict my use of the word "need" to meeting the
definitation a caveman would place on it. I NEED a car to get to work.
Nova Roma NEEDS fast and relible communications.

Vale,
Lucius Sicinius Drusus




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Subject: [novaroma] Re: Fragged Hard Drive
From: lsicinius@--------
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 23:44:09 -0000
--- In novaroma@--------, Maril--------raber <margali@9...> wrote:
> Many apologies, I am now reconstructing myself in a brand new
> computer. My hard drive fragged itself, and we decided to just
> replace instead of fix [we got a great deal on a compaq presario
> from the Navy exchange] so I won't have access to all of my
> normal offbeat reference links until I can rummage around on the
> web and re-find them all. ;-(
> Needless to say, i also have to recreate my email address files
> as well, which I am doing by incoming emails.
>
> I really hate this! Gone are all my saved links, recipes and
> funky references. Gone are my spiffy pictures and files. *sigh*
> margali

Salve,

It is sometimes possible to recover some or all of the data that was
lost on a hard drive. What do you mean when you say "fragged"?
Normally this word is used for a drive that the data is fragmented and
the computer works very slowly because it has to spend a lot of time
gathering the data from all over the drive, but it still works. There
is software that can defrag a drive in this condition. If you are
using Windows it's part of the Operating System.

If you mean that your Computer wouldn't boot up, often this is due to
some files being corrupted, and the drive would still work if the OS
was reloaded on it.

If either of these cases applies to you, you can recover at least some
of your lost data by having someone temporally installing your old
hard drive into your new computer as a slave drive, and coppying the
data over to the hard drive on your new computer.

There are also ways to recover some or all of the data on drives that
are electronicly dead or physically damaged, but these are so
expensive that very few home users can justify the cost.

Feel free to contact me off list if you have any questions.

Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus