Forum Romanum


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Nova Romani at Fort Malden
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:38:41 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, "Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@n...>
wrote:

Salvete Honoured Consul Germanicus et Omnes:

Interesting, I was planning on posting a last reminder about this
tonight, and you happen to ask.

Here's the scoop:

Fort Malden Reenactment/Provincial gathering is in Amhearstburg,
Ontario, about 20 miles outside Windsor, Ontario, Canada, which is
right across the river from Detroit Michigan. Dates: Aug 3, 4, 5.

Fort Malden event is an annual Historical/Military Reenactment
timeline.........with reenactors representing various periods of
history. The Fort itself is a War of 1812 replica.

This event will be formally represented NovaRoma-wise, this year, by
Canada Orientalis Provincia citizens, and other cives who care to join
us, plus by Marcallus Velius Gallio, Praefectus Sodalitas Militarium
et Commander Legion XXIV, Maryland, and his contingents. I understand
a few Roman Military Reenactors from Ontario will likely be present.

I have reserved one extra campground for anyone who shows up at the
last minute for an overnight......so if you are thinking of coming,
email me and I can "count you in".

There will be meals at the campground at Fort Malden, too.......about
$5.00 each Canadian.

Also, consider driving up for a day if you are in driving distance.

What shall we do?........well:

We will socialize, give an informal ritual to Ceres, Vulcan, and
Bacchus, our chosen provincial Religio deities. I will be talking to
the visitors and reenactors......there will be Nova Roma flyers,
Militarium flyers, provincial businesscards, and Nova Roma coins to
give away to promote our Republic and Sodalitas Militarium. I would
like to "do" dinner somewhere, too.

I would like to thank Pontiff Graecus for taking the time to provide
us with an informal ritual to offer, and to my Procurator, Appius
Tullius Marcallus Cato for corresponding with Pontiff Graecus on
behalf of the provincia. My work schedule makes it tough to deal with
everything these days, and Cato has been of enormous assistance.

Canada Orientalis also plans to present a Grass Crown (well, I just
had to jazz it up a bit, being the woman I am :) ) to the Legion,
Company, Army, whatever, who presents the most accurately and
eloquently, in our humble view (I will consult the Praefectus about
this, I promise!)

Originally, the Grass Crown was presented by a leading citizen to a
soldier of Rome responsible for saving a village, city, etc. The idea
originated in Umbria, not Rome, actually. Q. Fabius gave me a brief
history, more detailed than my previous knowledge.

If it cools off there might even be Roman Shield cookies, but if this
heat doesn't let up, I dunno.........
>>
> I look forward to greeting and visiting with all who plan to attend.

Bene valete!
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
Propraetrix, Canada Orientalis
NOVA ROMA
>
> Valete,
>
> FVG


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] exitil
From:	exitil@--------
Date:	Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:21:49 EDT

In a message dated 7/25/01 8:42:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
ksterne@-------- writes:

>
> > >I think you and the others have beaten the horse sufficiently to
> let the matter drop.<<
>
> Salve,
>
> Perhaps you could be so kind as to sign your posts so we know who is
> speaking to us.
>
> Vale,
> Gaius Popillius Laenas

You know exactly who is speaking to you. Exitil@-------- Frankly, I'm
tired of the comments people have made in the past about me not posting my
name occasionally, so now I'm doing nothing else. Thank you for further
cementing my position.


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: exitil
From:	"Robert Woolwine" <alexious@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 04:34:55 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, exitil@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/25/01 8:42:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
> ksterne@-------- writes:
>
> >
> > > >I think you and the others have beaten the horse sufficiently
to
> > let the matter drop.<<
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > Perhaps you could be so kind as to sign your posts so we know
who is
> > speaking to us.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Gaius Popillius Laenas
>
> You know ex--------y who is spe--------g to you. Exitil@-------- Fr--------y,
I'm
> tired of the comments people have made in the past about me not
posting my
> name occasionally, so now I'm doing nothing else. Thank you for
further
> cementing my position.

Ave,

I know who you are, Alexander Novius. How is your other Roman
Micronation going? You know the one thats a copycat of Nova Roma?

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] exitil
From:	QFabiusMaxmi@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 01:36:11 EDT

In a message dated 7/26/2001 8:59:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, exitil@--------
writes:

> You know exactly who is speaking to you. Exitil@--------

Avete
It is Alex Temal AKA Alexander Novius
Lives in Cloquet, MN, USA
He is a Male, and Single at present.
His hobbies are Writing, programming, politics
He is a Philosopher, revolutionary, writer, and much more.

--Fabius

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: exitil
From:	ksterne@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:31:26 -0000

>>You know ex--------y who is spe--------g to you. Exitil@-------- Fr--------y,
I'm tired of the comments people have made in the past about me not
posting my name occasionally, so now I'm doing nothing else. Thank
you for further cementing my position.<<

Listen Friend,

If not for the postings of Lucius Cornelius and Quintus Fabius I
would have absolutely NO IDEA who you are. Even after reading their
posts, I still don't know you.

Your comment above about "cementing your position" is nonsensical to
me. From now on, I WILL know that "Extil" is someone with some kind
of social or communication problem.

Vale,
Gaius Popillius Laenas


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: exitil
From:	exitil@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 02:03:14 EDT

In a message dated 7/26/01 11:36:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
alexious@-------- writes:

> Ave,
>
> I know who you are, Alexander Novius. How is your other Roman
> Micronation going? You know the one thats a copycat of Nova Roma?
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

That's actually not a group I run. Someone else does, and I've done some
minor things for them. My own group is not Roman-related.


Subject:	[novaroma] personal introduction
From:	lollia4@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:18:06 -0000

salve

I am Clodia. I live in Italy. I have recently submitted my
application but for now I am not a citizen of Nova Roma.
I am really interested in this culture and I would like to study more
about romans.
Do you know somebody in italy (like the governor or somebody else)
who can help me in understanding more about Nova Roma?
Thank you very much!

Clodia


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] exitil
From:	margali <margali@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:55:49 -0400

Excuse me, please Exitil but there are browsers/mail readers that
do not show the same header that you may be seeing - I know that
several people I know don't get the email info unless they opt to
get the whole header, which looks like this :

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So, they chose not to bog themselves down with more header than
message. It really is polite to put your name on the posting.
Courtesy is what keeps lists from degenerating to flamewars and
trolling.
margali
Hyapatia Asinia Margali
--
~~~~~
The Quote Starts Here:
Quoth Exitil
You know exactly who is speaking to you. Exitil@--------
Frankly, I'm
tired of the comments people have made in the past about me not
posting my
name occasionally, so now I'm doing nothing else. Thank you for
further
cementing my position.


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: personal introduction
From:	ksterne@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:47:17 -0000

>>I am Clodia. I live in Italy. I have recently submitted my
application but for now I am not a citizen of Nova Roma.
I am really interested in this culture and I would like to study more
about romans. Do you know somebody in italy (like the governor or
somebody else) who can help me in understanding more about Nova Roma?
Thank you very much!

Clodia<<

Salve and Welcome Clodia,

Currently I do not believe there is a governor of Italis. Visit the
main Nova Roma site at:

http://www.novaroma.org/

There is a list of civies in Italis in the "Album Provinciarum"
section as well as much information about Nova Roma.

Vale,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
Rubur et Decus


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: personal introduction
From:	"Lucius Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:49:34 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, lollia4@h... wrote:
> salve
>
> I am Clodia. I live in Italy. I have recently submitted my
> application but for now I am not a citizen of Nova Roma.
> I am really interested in this culture and I would like to study more
> about romans.
> Do you know somebody in italy (like the governor or somebody else)
> who can help me in understanding more about Nova Roma?
> Thank you very much!
>
> Clodia

Salve Clodia,

And Welcome to Nova Roma!

At the Present time Italy dosen't have a Governor. Perhaps you could
contact the Paterfamilis of the Gens that you applied to join, and ask
them for help.

There is also a page for new citizens at
http://www.goldenfuture.net/mediatlantica/whatnow/

I'm sure that it will help with any questions you have.

Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus
Propraetor America Austrorientalis


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: personal introduction
From:	Jeff Smith <JSmithCSA@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:51:19 -0700 (PDT)

Good idea. You can also contact the Censors to find a
good contact in your local area...just write and tell
them where you are. censores@--------

Dalmaticus

--- ksterne@-------- wrote:
> >>I am Clodia. I live in Italy. I have recently
> submitted my
> application but for now I am not a citizen of Nova
> Roma.
> I am really interested in this culture and I would
> like to study more
> about romans. Do you know somebody in italy (like
> the governor or
> somebody else) who can help me in understanding more
> about Nova Roma?
> Thank you very much!
>
> Clodia<<
>
> Salve and Welcome Clodia,
>
> Currently I do not believe there is a governor of
> Italis. Visit the
> main Nova Roma site at:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/
>
> There is a list of civies in Italis in the "Album
> Provinciarum"
> section as well as much information about Nova Roma.
>
> Vale,
> Gaius Popillius Laenas
> Rubur et Decus
>
>

=====
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Subject:	[novaroma] The Un-viru$
From:	margali <margali@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:43:15 -0400

I don't know if I have a virus or what, so for now don't open any
attatchments from me unless I send a plain email first.

For some bizzare reason, my email progran has started reproducing
email from the 3d, 4th, 5th and 6th of July, 2001. All stuff I
had previously recieved so it wasn't wandering around cyberspace
for the past few weeks trying to deliver itself - and my ISP,
Netscape, Symantec and Norton have never heard of anything like
it and we can't figure out what is going on...and nobody has ever
heard of a virus that so nicely recreates deleted emails just in
case you accidentally deleted some mail ;-)

puzzled in CT
margali


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: The Un-viru$
From:	"Lucius Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:31:20 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, margali <margali@9...> wrote:
> I don't know if I have a virus or what, so for now don't open any
> attatchments from me unless I send a plain email first.
>
> For some bizzare reason, my email progran has started reproducing
> email from the 3d, 4th, 5th and 6th of July, 2001. All stuff I
> had previously recieved so it wasn't wandering around cyberspace
> for the past few weeks trying to deliver itself - and my ISP,
> Netscape, Symantec and Norton have never heard of anything like
> it and we can't figure out what is going on...and nobody has ever
> heard of a virus that so nicely recreates deleted emails just in
> case you accidentally deleted some mail ;-)
>
> puzzled in CT
> margali

Salve Margali,

When there is a major virus outbreak it is common for virus writers to
modify the code, producing variants. You may have a variant of the
recent SirCam virus.

The Netscape e-mail client does NOT delete old messages when you you
click on delete. It mearly marks the post as being deleted, and it no
longer shows up in the display. The old posts are still on your hard
drive, and that is where they are comming from. To permenatly delete a
message from Netscape you have to compact the mail folders. This
erases them from your hard drive. To compact a folder Right click on
it, click on folder properties, click on compact folder.

The SirCam Virus hides in the recycle bin, so chances are that a
varient of it will also hide there. Don't attemt to get rid of it by
emptying the Recycle bin. The virus makes changes to the registry, so
you will criple Windows if you simply delete the file.

I would suggest that you forward any files from your recycle bin with
an unusual extension, or an .exe extension to Norton as a possible
SirCam variant.

Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: The Un-viru$
From:	margali <margali@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:51:25 -0400

Normally i would, but at the end of every session I discard the
trash and compact folders [I am used to having a laptop with
limited space - if I let my old email hang around, I wouldn't
have any space on the computer ;-)

The thing is, I don't open attatchments unless I know one is
coming in.

*sigh* I should get my amiga the proper internet programming,
then I wouldn't have to worry about viruses!
margali
Hyapatia Asinia Margali
--
~~~~~
The Quote Starts Here:
Quoth L. Sicinius Drusus
The Netscape e-mail client does NOT delete old messages when you
you
click on delete. It mearly marks the post as being deleted, and
it no
longer shows up in the display.

I would suggest that you forward any files from your recycle bin
with
an unusual extension, or an .exe extension to Norton as a
possible
SirCam variant.


Subject:	[novaroma] Townlife in Britain
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:43:44 -0400 (EDT)

Sodales and Citizens;

The following is a short treatise on the subject topic from the lectures
(Six Ford Lectures--1907) of the British Historian F. Haverfield. I am
very pleased to present a small part of his wisdom from his book "The
Roman Occupation of Britain" which was published in 1924.

This article is forwarded to the "Pilum" Editor for publication in the
next issue.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Town-Life in Britain (Part I);

In Britain town-life sprang up in the Roman Period and under Roman
influence. At this point therefore it may be advantageous and
convienient to review the terms that were actually used by the Romans of
that period
as well as the latin speaking Celts of the area. The term "urbs" was
most generally applied to a town of fair to medium size, as well as the
largest and grandest of all Roman towns which was Rome herself. As
such, this term need not concern us in this discussion.

Secondly, the term "Civitas", from which the English word "city" is
derived is also not a suitable term for our use and it too may be sert
aside from this particular treatise. It had, in good Early Latin
referred to a group or body of citizens rather than a complex of
structures or buildings. In Late Latin it came to mean a town simply
without regard to legal status or size. As such the term is much to
generalized and non-specicific for our use in this discussion.

The terms "Colonia and municipium" probably need a closer look and a
fuller understanding. These are terms of a technical nature and as such
deserve to be dealt with in detail. These were terms used when the
state granted formal charters, and which existed using specific and
definite constitutions that were laid down in such issued charters.
These constitutions or determinations of how the town would operate, are
all similar in pattern to those which were seen in the towns of the
Italian Peninsula in a general way, and it could not be concieved that
with such similarity, that it would be inaccurate to refer to both
"coloniae and municipa" as "Towns of the Italian Model." The two then
had a very similar government, and in both types of towns the citizes
were thought of as "cives Romani."

In fact the main distinction between the "coloniae and municipia" was in
the way that they originated. The "coloniae" of the earlier Empire were
either new towns, which had been founded full-grown before habitation on
town-sites which had previously no occupants, and were peopled by drafts
of time-expired legionaries, or in some cases preexisting native towns
whose face, character and offerings were transformed by numbers of Roman
vetrerans known as (deductio). The "municipia" were rather pre-existing
native towns which had reched by some natural progressive growth or
industry some definate size and some level of civilization relating to
the Roman or Italian status as determined by the powers of Roman
authority in the area. When these towns seemed to merit a recognition
of such status from theCentral Government, then a grant of a definite
charter and an urban constitution was made.

Collectively, in can be said that the "coloniae and municipia" are
"Roman municipalities" but the real Roman element was naturally stronger
in the "colonia" , which was the original settlement of Roman Soldiers,
than in the "municipium" which had the more definite stamp of the
culture of the native provincial origin. End of Part I

Reference:

"The Roman Occupation of Britain," F. Haverfield, (Revised by G.
MacDonald), Clarendon Press, Oxford, England, 1924.

Respectfully Submitted;
Marcus Audens
Legatus Architechturas / Geographica -- Sodalitas Militarium -- Nova
Roma

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary


Subject:	[novaroma] Townlife in Britain
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:46:58 -0400 (EDT)


Subject:	[novaroma] Scriba Appointment
From:	"Appius Tullius Cato" <a.cato@-------->
Date:	Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:50:06 -0400

EDICTUM ROGATORIS
Designatio Tiberi Tulli Cato ad Scribam
I hereby appoint Tiberius Tullius Cato as my Scriba to aid me in my office of Rogator for Nova Roma. Among his responsibilities will be the sending of necessary communications to the appropriate magistrates during voting and election periods, if I am unavailable due to unavoidable circumstances. Tiberius Tullius has already been of great help to me, and I have complete faith in his ablilities and total trust in him. I look forward to working with him, and I know that he will fill the position to the best of his ability.

Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
Rogator, Novae Romae
Procurator, Provinciae Canadae Orientale
07/27/2001

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