Subject: [novaroma] holidays
From: "Franciscus" <sacro_barese_impero@-------->
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:45:20 +0200
Salvete,
I'll in holidays from 4 till 18 August for my holidays.
I'll on the border line between Italy and Austria, if someone will here I'm
happy to meet.

In this period contact me, I'll answer at 19 August.

Good holidays and valete.

Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Paterfamilias Gens Apula
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"Alme sol... Possis nihil
urbe Roma visere maius"



Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Lex Vedia de Privatus Rebus - REVISED.
From: Gaius Iulius Sulla <c_iulius_sulla@-------->
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:10:58 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix et al,

Lucius Cornelius is correct. Nova Roma is already
incorporated in New Hampshire, which provides some
protection to the Senate for simple "breach of
fiduciary duty" (i.e., harmless mistakes"; however, a
plaintiff would be able to sue by convincing that
there was a violation of some civil law.

Respectfully,
Gaius Iulius Sulla
--- mark zona <pitdog2002@--------> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ...Remember, if NR
> > ever gets sued, it is the Senators who will be the
> > one to take the
> > fiscal responsbility...
>
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> If so, perhaps NR should consider becoming a limited
> liability partnership of some type, or perhaps there
> are similar legal protections offered to non-profit
> groups.
> In this manner, only the assets of NR would be
> vulnerable to legal action. The personal assets of
> individual senators would be protected in most
> instances.
>
> respecfully,
>
> Marcus Antonius Zeno.
>
> Salve!
>
>
>
>
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Subject: [novaroma] Going on vacation, got laid off... it's all good.
From: Andrea Gladia Cyrene <andrea_gladia@-------->
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 05:51:46 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete omnes,


Well, history repeats itself... sort of. I got *very* involved working
10+ hours at my job, and for the second time in eight months have been
recently laid off. The good news is that you will see me much more
often.

The bad news is that I'm still going on vacation regardless, and will
be back to posting on the 13th. I'll be running around to interviews,
but my time spent online will significantly increase. I guess it's a
good thing that I got laid off with severance pay, because it is true
that the job I had, while I liked it there, was killing me due to
extreme stress.

So, Apollo has spoken. I will talk to you all when I return, and go to
nomail in the meantime so I won't go "boing". But rest assured, I will
return and participate once more.

Everything in moderation... including moderation....



Valete,

=====
Andrea Gladia Cyrene
Apollinis Templi Sacerdotis
Materfamilias of Gladia
*******************************************
Yahoo: kyreneariadne / andrea_gladia / andrea_m_berman
AIM: Kyrene Ariadne ICQ: 6663573
http://TempleApollo.faithweb.com/index.html

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Subject: [novaroma] I have returned
From: britil@--------
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 06:45:21 -0000
Salvete, All

Greetings to all Romans. I have been very busy these past two
months with Macronational duties and have failed to check e-mail and
many were bounced. Please forgive me in my absence from NovaRoma. I
am back now and will be more active in the politics and religo of
this our great nation. I have had correspondance with a cive in my
provience. Not to clutter the Main list I close and say Hail Roma.

Ave

Marcus Flavius
Legatus Oklahoma


Subject: [novaroma] A Better Idea
From: gcassiusnerva@--------
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 11:32:20 -0000
I think the ideas expressed by Formosanus are good ones and make a
fair compromise. If a governor needs to contact a citizen by snail
mail {such as in the event that an email address seems to be no
longer valid} such a letter or card could be sent by the censors.

I want to stress that I am not opposed to governors desiring to
contact citizens in their provinces. I *am* however protective of my
phone number and actual street address.

We can avoid having another law on the books if the governors or
their staffs send a mailing to each citizen's email address asking
for this information from those who do mind giving it. If a citizen
does NOT wish to share his phone number or address, then the governor
should have nothing to worry about, for if that citizen's email
address becomes invalid later, the citizen in question has only cut
himself off from NR. The governor has only to go about his business
as usual, and if that citizen cannot be contacted about the
provincial get-together or party or reenacting event, it is on that
citizen's own head.

Nerva





Subject: [novaroma] Oath of Office
From: Kristoffer From <from@-------->
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 17:06:23 +0200
Ave, propraetor Caeso. Salvete, omnes.

I, Titus Octavius Pius (Kristoffer From) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Titus Octavius Pius (Kristoffer From)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Titus Octavius Pius (Kristoffer From) swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Titus Octavius Pius (Kristoffer From) swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Titus Octavius Pius (Kristoffer From) further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Senior Legatus Thules
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Senior Legatus Thules and all the rights,
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete,

Titus Octavius Pius,
Consiliarius Thules,
Praeco Anarei Thules,
Scriba to the Curator Araneum

AKA Kristoffer From

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operis boni in rebus latinis alacribus
et fructuosis potiri potes.

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Subject: [novaroma] Re: A Better Idea
From: "Lucius Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@-------->
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 16:38:24 -0000
--- In novaroma@--------, gcassiusnerva@c... wrote:
> I think the ideas expressed by Formosanus are good ones and make a
> fair compromise. If a governor needs to contact a citizen by snail
> mail {such as in the event that an email address seems to be no
> longer valid} such a letter or card could be sent by the censors.
>
> I want to stress that I am not opposed to governors desiring to
> contact citizens in their provinces. I *am* however protective of my
> phone number and actual street address.
>
> We can avoid having another law on the books if the governors or
> their staffs send a mailing to each citizen's email address asking
> for this information from those who do mind giving it. If a citizen
> does NOT wish to share his phone number or address, then the governor
> should have nothing to worry about, for if that citizen's email
> address becomes invalid later, the citizen in question has only cut
> himself off from NR. The governor has only to go about his business
> as usual, and if that citizen cannot be contacted about the
> provincial get-together or party or reenacting event, it is on that
> citizen's own head.
>
> Nerva

Salve,

I Understand your desire to protect your privacy.

However The Censors allready have a very heavy workload. Sending A
snail mail may not seem like much of an addition, but sending several
hundred snailmails is. That is the current situation, and in a few
years it will get worse. There are also the cases where a phone call
might be needed. Having to make transatlantic and transpacific phone
calls can get very expensive. It does not account for the citizens who
speak English as a second language, and who may not be very good at it.

As Nova Roma continues to grow in size and diversity the job of
maintaining the database of the citizens will have to migrate
downward, first to the Provinces, then to the Regios. It simply is not
humanly possible for two part time volunteers (And that IS what the
Censors are) to maintain a database as large and as diverse as Nova
Roma's Album Civium is becomming.

When Nova Roma was a few hundred people, mainly in the USA, it could
be done. In the not too distant future Nova Roma will be thousands of
People all over the world, and will include citizens who speak NO English.

To prepare for the future, and to lighten the workload on the Censors,
it is time to start moving the maintance of the Album Civium to the
Provinces. Each Province needs to have a Censorial Scriba who will
maintain a Album Provincia. The Album Civium would then become the sum
of the Alba Provinciae, plus the citizens living outside a Provincia.
These Scribes would be the people in the provinces who would have the
access to the records. That will serve our needs for a few years, but
when the provinces become as large as Nova Roma is now, Regio Scribes
will have to be appointed.

Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus


Subject: [novaroma] Re: Citizenship
From: radams36@--------
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 20:41:33 -0000
Thank you very much, citizen, I appreciate it - you're very kind. Is
there an e-mail address I can send the information to, or would you
be willing to forward it, if the address is unpublished or private?

Valete,

R Palaeologus


--- In novaroma@--------, Gaius Iulius Sulla <c_iulius_sulla@--------> wrote:
> Salve R Palaeologus,
>
> I would suggest you consider the Patrician Gens Iulia.
> The Materfamilias, Vopisca Iulia, is very dedicated
> to her gens, and the Republic. She also resides in
> America Austroccidentalis.
>
> I live in the territory of Texas within America
> Austroccidentalis. When I submitted my application
> (and emailed her requesting permission to join), I
> received a response from her within a few days.
>
> Keep in mind, the Comitia Centuriata is convened and a
> vote will be taken soon. During this time, the
> censors may not consider new citizen applications.
> The vote goes from 7-24 Aug.
>
> I hope you consider my suggestion. I am certain you
> will find a rewarding experience in our Gens.
>
> Best Regards, Vale
> Gaius Iulius Sulla
> --- radams36@-------- wrote:
> > Salvete, Omnes!
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is appropriate (if not, please
> > forgive my
> > impertinence), but I have filled out the application
> > for citizenship,
> > but am having problems with selecting a Gens. Most
> > of the Gens on the
> > list at novaroma.org do not list e-mail for their
> > pater/materfamilias.
> >
> > If there is a Gens that would consider my humble
> > request for
> > citizenship, preferably one in American
> > Austroccidentalis (since I
> > live in Texas - geographical proximity being an
> > obvious plus), could
> > someone please contact me through the group and let
> > me know what more
> > I need to do to continue the process?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your forbearance,
> >
> > R Palaeologus
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] A Better Idea
From: TribuneAfricanus@--------
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:08:39 EDT
In a message dated 8/4/01 10:49:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
gcassiusnerva@-------- writes:

<< If a citizen
does NOT wish to share his phone number or address, then the governor
should have nothing to worry about, for if that citizen's email
address becomes invalid later, the citizen in question has only cut
himself off from NR. >>

The point I think the governors and Legates are making is that we do not even
have email contact information.