| Subject: |
[novaroma] taxes |
| From: |
tekoamxai@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 02:09:28 -0000 |
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salvete omnes,
i am a new citizen and have been looking at the website.
in the list of laws/edicts,i found one about taxes.
all citizens have to pay themnce a year. is an e-mail
announcement sent to remind us and do we pay thru
the province.thanks,
drusilla cassia titiana
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:52:21 -0400 |
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Salve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gnaeus Salix Astur [mailto:salixastur@--------]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:26 PM
>
> I have another question. Was the original privacy law approved by the
> Comitia Populi Tributa? If so, shouldn't it be ammended by the CPoT
> itself?
The original law was indeed passed by the Comitia Populi (as are most of our
laws; it's generally the preferred venue for voting since all the Citizens
vote and they do so grouped by tribes). However, any Comitia can amend or
overturn a lex passed by another; its one of the various checks and balances
built into the system. In this case, it's a sort of "friendly" check; we're
voting in the Comitia Centuriata simply to get the vote taken care of
quickly, not with any expectation that the Centuries would approve it when
the Tribes would not.
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:53:46 -0400 |
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Salve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Decimus Iunius Silanus [mailto:danedwardsuk@--------]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:26 PM
>
> Thankyou - makes perfect sense to me. Just to clarify, voting on
> leges that does not have implications for the comitia centuriata,
> for example, would normally be put before the tribes right?
That's been the way it's been done thusfar, yes.
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] taxes |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:59:40 -0400 |
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Salve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tekoamxai@-------- [mailto:tekoamxai@--------]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:09 PM
>
> i am a new citizen and have been looking at the website.
Welcome aboard!
> in the list of laws/edicts,i found one about taxes.
> all citizens have to pay themnce a year. is an e-mail
> announcement sent to remind us and do we pay thru
> the province.thanks,
The annual taxation plan is a new thing for next year. The exact details of
how its handled will be up to the various responsible magistrates, but I
can't imagine there won't be _some_ notification. The option to pay directly
to the treasury or through your province is yours; most provincia outside
the US will have appointed publicani to assist with the collection and
transfer of funds. I would also think that the PayPal system on the website
would be set up to accomodate the payment of taxes via credit card;
apparently there's relatively little effort involved in doing so.
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] european cives |
| From: |
"Manius Constantinus Serapio" <manius_constantinus_serapio@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:44:32 -0000 |
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AVETE OMNES
I would like to invite all european cives joining the
novaroma_europe mailing list.
Please, it is important!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/novaroma_europe
gratias
VALETE MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Civis Provinciae italiae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Duty to Vote, Cista Site, Invalid Voter Codes |
| From: |
"Appius Tullius Cato" <a.cato@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:48:38 -0400 |
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Salvete Omnes: I would like to remind citizens who have not yet taken the opportunity to vote to please do so. It only takes a few moments of your time, and should be the least to expect from those of us who are citizens of Nova Roma. It is your right, and duty as Nova Romans to take part in election and voting procedures. You can complete the process in literally seconds. I hope that we will have a large turn-out on this occasion. Vote casting ends at 12:00 noon Eastern Standard time on Aug. 24. (this is 6:00 p.m. Roma time.)
For our new citizens that may not be familiar with the procedure, the address for the Cista, (where we vote), is
http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/voting/index.html
Another issue that I would like to address is Invalid Voter Codes. Quite often in the past I have found that many of the Invalid Voter Codes are the result of citizens confusing capital I's (eyes) with 1's (ones), and also letter O's (ohs) with the number 0 (zero). Please note that your Voter Code consists of three letters followed by three numbers, and try not to get them confused. This way you ensure that your vote counts towards the final result. We wish to see as many people as possible have the opportunity to take part in these procedures.
Valete omnes, .... Appius Cato
Rogator, Novae Romae
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700 (PDT) |
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Salvete omnes; et salve, Consul Germanice.
--- Flavius Vedius Germanicus <germanicus@--------> wrote:
> Salve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gnaeus Salix Astur [mailto:salixastur@--------]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:26 PM
> >
> > I have another question. Was the original privacy law approved by
> the
> > Comitia Populi Tributa? If so, shouldn't it be ammended by the CPoT
> > itself?
>
> The original law was indeed passed by the Comitia Populi (as are most
> of our
> laws; it's generally the preferred venue for voting since all the
> Citizens
> vote and they do so grouped by tribes). However, any Comitia can
> amend or
> overturn a lex passed by another; its one of the various checks and
> balances
> built into the system.
This would mean that the CPoT could ammend this new lex once more,
doesn't it? However, it is my understanding that the CPoT can not
ammend the lex on the Comitia Centuriata's internal functions. Am I
right? Where is the line drawn?
> In this case, it's a sort of "friendly" check;
> we're
> voting in the Comitia Centuriata simply to get the vote taken care of
> quickly, not with any expectation that the Centuries would approve it
> when
> the Tribes would not.
I understand that. I was just wondering if everything was coherent :-).
Thank you for your response.
=====
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Gnaeus Salix Astur.
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:32:51 -0400 |
|
Salve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gnaeus Salix Astur [mailto:salixastur@--------]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 12:56 PM
>
> This would mean that the CPoT could ammend this new lex once more,
> doesn't it? However, it is my understanding that the CPoT can not
> ammend the lex on the Comitia Centuriata's internal functions. Am I
> right? Where is the line drawn?
You are correct; the Comitia Populi could, should it wish, amend the lex
again at some later date (as could the Comitia Plebis). You are also correct
when you state that one Comitia cannot pass a lex that interferes with the
internal procedures of another. That, in essence, is where the line is
drawn.
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
labienus@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:32:23 US/Central |
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Salvete Gnai Salix omnesque
> This would mean that the CPoT could ammend this new lex once more,
> doesn't it?
Yes. The lex enacted most recently is the authority on any subject.
Constitution I.B., "Should a law passed by one comitia contradict one passed by
another or the same comitia without explicitly superceding that law, the most
recent law shall take precedence."
> However, it is my understanding that the CPoT can not ammend the lex on the
> Comitia Centuriata's internal functions. Am I right?
This is correct. No comitia can dictate the internal workings of any other
comitia. Constitution III.B., "...only the comitia centuriata shall pass laws
governing the rules by which it shall operate internally." III.C (CPlT) and
III.D (CPoT) contain similar language.
> Where is the line drawn?
Only those things which strictly apply to a comitia's internal workings are
governed by the rule. Therefore, it is acceptable for the Comitia Populi
Tributa to pass a law forbidding anyone under the age of twenty-one to stand
for election as a tribunus plebis, even though elections for tribuni occur in
the Concilium Plebis. It is questionable, however, whether the CPoT could
constitutionally enact a lex forbidding the promulgation of a class of leges or
plebiscita. It can be reasonably argued that such a restriction affects the
inner workings of other comitia. However, such a lex would not in any way
affect the system by which any other comitia operate. Aside from this one moot
case, it seems to me that the line is fairly clearly drawn.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete omnes; et salve, Consul Germanice.
--- Flavius Vedius Germanicus <germanicus@--------> wrote:
> Salve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gnaeus Salix Astur [mailto:salixastur@--------]
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 12:56 PM
> >
> > This would mean that the CPoT could ammend this new lex once more,
> > doesn't it? However, it is my understanding that the CPoT can not
> > ammend the lex on the Comitia Centuriata's internal functions. Am I
> > right? Where is the line drawn?
>
> You are correct; the Comitia Populi could, should it wish, amend the
> lex
> again at some later date (as could the Comitia Plebis). You are also
> correct
> when you state that one Comitia cannot pass a lex that interferes
> with the
> internal procedures of another. That, in essence, is where the line
> is
> drawn.
Now I understand. Thank you.
=====
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] A question on elections. |
| From: |
Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@--------> |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:39:49 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete omnes; et salve, Tribune Fortunate.
Thank you too for your explanation.
--- labienus@-------- wrote:
> Salvete Gnai Salix omnesque
>
> > This would mean that the CPoT could ammend this new lex once more,
> > doesn't it?
>
> Yes. The lex enacted most recently is the authority on any subject.
>
> Constitution I.B., "Should a law passed by one comitia contradict one
> passed by
> another or the same comitia without explicitly superceding that law,
> the most
> recent law shall take precedence."
>
> > However, it is my understanding that the CPoT can not ammend the
> lex on the
> > Comitia Centuriata's internal functions. Am I right?
>
> This is correct. No comitia can dictate the internal workings of any
> other
> comitia. Constitution III.B., "...only the comitia centuriata shall
> pass laws
> governing the rules by which it shall operate internally." III.C
> (CPlT) and
> III.D (CPoT) contain similar language.
>
> > Where is the line drawn?
>
> Only those things which strictly apply to a comitia's internal
> workings are
> governed by the rule. Therefore, it is acceptable for the Comitia
> Populi
> Tributa to pass a law forbidding anyone under the age of twenty-one
> to stand
> for election as a tribunus plebis, even though elections for tribuni
> occur in
> the Concilium Plebis. It is questionable, however, whether the CPoT
> could
> constitutionally enact a lex forbidding the promulgation of a class
> of leges or
> plebiscita. It can be reasonably argued that such a restriction
> affects the
> inner workings of other comitia. However, such a lex would not in
> any way
> affect the system by which any other comitia operate. Aside from
> this one moot
> case, it seems to me that the line is fairly clearly drawn.
>
> Valete
> T Labienus Fortunatus
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Face-To-Face Ohio Visit |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:22:22 -0000 |
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To Citizen Quintus;
Sir, In relation to the subject visit, precise directions are as
provided below.
==> Travelling on I-71 South from Columbus take Exit 32 (Route 123)
into Lebanon (approximately 3 miles) to the Historic Town Center.
==> At the first stop-light, that you come to, Route 123 will turn
into Main Street.
==> Continue to Mechanic Street, and turn right. (Just on your left
you will see a clock tower on top of the Town Hall).
==> Make an immediate left turn into the Town Hall parking lot. I
will be waiting for you in a White GMC Safari minivan with a frog
sticker in the back window.
==> Looking forward to meeting with you and any other members that
can make it.
Respectfully,
Marcus Audens
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