| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
trog99@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:17:05 -0000 |
|
---Salvete Equiti et alii:
This is great! I just took the Goddess analysis. it has been
determined that I am:
50% Persephone
25% Aphrodite
16.7% Artemis
8.3% Hestia
..............and that is Po, in a nutshell :)
Bene valete
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
In novaroma@--------, Bill Gawne <gawne@a...> wrote:
> Salve Romani,
>
> I got this link from some friends who found it a fun way to waste
> a little time.
>
> "The Greek God Test"
>
> http://quiz.ivillage.com/relationships/tests/god.htm
>
> There's unfortunately not a Roman god test there, but there's
> enough crossover between the pantheons for a NovaRoman to enjoy
> this. There's also a Greek Goddess Test, for those of the
> fairer sex who want to find which of the Greek goddesses they
> are most like.
>
> "Goddess Power"
> http://www.ivillage.com/relationships/goddesspower/
>
> It isn't the sort of thing I'd take very seriously,
> but it's fun. I tested at 30% Apollo, 20% Hades,
> 10% Hephaestus, 10% Zeus, 10% Dionysus, 10% Hermes,
> and 10% Ares. That's either well ballanced or
> undecided, I suppose.
>
> Vale,
>
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] name change |
| From: |
PompeiaAntoniaCaesaria <europamoon7@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:45:45 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete,
Just so those reading this list won't think I'm a
newbie I would like to inform everyone that since I
have recently switched gens from the Antonia to the
Cornelia I have also changed my full name. I was
formerly known as Pompeia Antonia Caesaria and my
current name will be Antonia Cornelia Octavia.
Valete,
Antonia Cornelia Octavia
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
Maximina Octavia <myownq@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:40:28 -0700 (PDT) |
|
> Salve Romani,
>
> O.K. Here are the results of my goddess test for all
to witness.
41.7% Artemis
16.7% Athena
16.7% Aphrodite
8.3% Hera
8.3% Hestia
8.3% Persephone
0% Demeter
Now you know me a little better. I found that this
test was very accurate from my viewpoint.
Some of my friends, however, view me as Vesta.
The quiz was great fun! Thank you for providing the
link.
Vale, Maximina Octavia
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:57:01 -0400 |
|
Salvete
Hmmm...
I got 40% Zeus, 20% Hermes, 20% Hades, 10% Poseidon, 10% Apollo.
A leader, moody/grim and Mercurial. Nahhhhh...
Valete,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Possible Nova Britannia Get-Together |
| From: |
"C. Minucius Hadrianus" <shinjikun@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:27:22 -0400 |
|
Salvete,
I was thinking of hosting a NR cook-out or pizza party here at my place in
Plymouth, MA on the either the last weekend in Spetember or the first couple
weekends in October. We could eat, drink, be merry, get to know our fellow
civies, maybe watch some Roman related movies. In addition King Richard's
Faire (a very cool Rennisance Faire) is only 15 minutes from my house, so we
could even make a that part of the day if there was enough interest. Please
let me know if anyone is interested, and if so, what weekend would be best.
Thanks!
C. Minucius Hadrianus
Legatus of Massachusetts
Nova Britannia Provincia
ICQ# 28924742
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." - Vegetius
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
"C. Minucius Hadrianus" <shinjikun@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:30:56 -0400 |
|
Salvete,
I'm 30% Hermes, 30% Apollo, 20% Hades, 20% Aries. How's that for being
eclectic? (either that or schizophrenic.....) ~_^
Valete,
C. Minucius Hadrianus
Legatus of Massachusetts
Nova Britannia Provincia
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
"M Arminius Maior" <m_arminius@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:20:22 -0300 |
|
Salvete
Well, it seems that everybody is doing this test.
My results are:
50% Hephaestus
30% Hades
20% Apollo
0% the rest...
Marcus Arminius Maior
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
Steven - Piparskeggr <catamount_grange@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:57:09 -0500 |
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Salvete!
I'll play :-P
20% Apollo
20% Hades
20% Hephaestus
20% Zeus
10% Hermes
10% Poseidon
0% Dionysus
0% Ares
And, to bend things a little, since I am not afraid of me ;-)
41.7% Athena (appropriate, since Minerva is my Patroness in things Roman
>({{:-)
25.0% Artemis (again, appropriate, since I am a Huntsman)
16.7% Hera (Well, I do take charge when needed, and am pressed into
service)
8.3% Aphrodite (I am a luv spunggggg)
8.3% Demeter (Love my gardening!)
0.0% Hestia
0.0% Persephone
--
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- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html
Aut cervisae aut nihil!
(either beer, or nothing!)
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] which goddess are you most like? |
| From: |
AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:27:57 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete,
Well I might as well jump on the band wagon and post
my results. I am:
Artemis 33.3%
Aphrodite 16.7%
Persephene 16.7%
Venus 8%
Athena 13%
Minerva 7%
This was fun.
Valete,
Antonia Cornelia Octavia
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| Subject: |
Tacitus "flawed"? - was Re: [novaroma] "Leatherneck Gauls"? (was The result of the Defeat of Varus.) |
| From: |
Lucilla Cornelia Cinna <CorneliaLucilla@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:18:13 +0200 |
|
Salve Q. Fabi Maxime!
QFabiusMaxmi@-------- wrote:
>>Tacitus' ethnographic study on the Germanic people is a moral piece of
>>literature, depicting who he thought to be the most dangerous peoples
>>Rome ever confronted as a moral "Gegenbild" (germ.) to his contemporary
>>Roman culture.
>>
>Well since my references come from Tacitus, especial during the civil war, it
>won't do any good to mention them, since you believe Tacitus' reasoning when
>it came to Germans is flawed.
>
I definitely didn't say "flawed"! ;o)
His view is biased in the Germania as well as in the Annals (and
Historiae, of course, as well). If a scholar carefully observes his
intentions and inclinations and compares the subject of his writing with
sources of other (also more or less biased) authors like Dio etc., he
can approach the real facts in the text. And afterwards carefully try to
fill the gaps in-between with what is known from other sciences like
archeology, epigraphics, numismatics, etc.
At least in Munich and Marburg, where I studied history and philology,
historic research always is focussed on text, and all the rest is
supposed to be subsidiary sciences, however important they were. The
basis of research are philological studies. I do not distrust any
author, I simply respect the fact that he is a particular human being
with a particular point of view, living in a particular environment,
following a particular philosophy which all color his work.
This may look as if I think historiography is somewhat tainted by
subjectivism, but I don't share the negative view. In my humble opinion,
it's but mere humanism. Tacitus' truth is "his" truth, not "the" truth,
that's all.
The point is to find the facts within his works and the works of others,
study what other scholars have found out and collect material that other
sciences come up with and carefully compare and combine all the bits
hopefully to end up with a mosaic that resembles a particular point of
view of the events described.
In other words, if you read a historic study you read it through the
"glasses" of this particular scholar and through those of the tradition
he bases his views on, and - to keep the picture - each of these glasses
are cut and colored. E.g. if you read my postings, you'll always have a
bit of Plato, Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, Erasmus, Husserl, Gadamer and
many more in them.
Bene vale
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Silly Fun - Which god/dess are you like? |
| From: |
"Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:15:45 +0100 |
|
Salve Gai Popilli
>Thanks for the link to the tests. I was:
>40% Dionysus (my wife would say that's no surprise), 20% Hermes, 20%
>Hades, 10% each Zeus and Ares.
>As someone else said I must be well rounded or schizophrenic!
>Vale,
>Gaius Popillius Laenas
I think 40% Dionysius just means you rather like your wine unwatered. As I got a similar result I guess I'll see you at the bar!
Vale,
Decimus Iunius Silanus.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Provincia - local or central govt? |
| From: |
"Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:58 +0100 |
|
Salve Luci Sicini,
>The idea that a Provincial Governor is not the
>business of all ofa wrong assumption based on a
>misunderstanding of thr roles of the Provinces and the
>Governor in a Roman system.
>Section V C of the Constitution clearly states
>"The Senate may, by Senatus Consultum, create
>provincia for administrative purposes ...."
>So the province is nothing more than an administrative
>district of the Central government, NOT a basic unit
>of local government. The unit of local government in a
>Roman system is the Municipia, NOT the Province.
>The Governor is appointed by the Senate. He is Nova
>Roma's represenative to the Province. He answers to
>the Senate, NOT to the citizens of the province. He
>does NOT represent the Citizens of the province,
>rather he represents Nova Roma.
>We are not discussing Vendia's represenative, we are
>discussing Nova Roma's represenative to Vendia, and if
>any citizens have concerns over Nova Roma's
>represenatives to the provinces it is their duty to
>make these concerns known to the Senate.
>Valete,
>L. Sicinius Drusus
>Propraetor America Austrorientalis
So by this definition, if I met the criteria, I could become propraetor of Venedia province or any other province for that matter. After all, that's how Rome did it - Governors of provinces were the politicians from Rome itself and not from the provinces they were sent to govern.
However, given the internationalist flavour of NR, I believe it would be more beneficial to all if provinces are managed at a more local level, thus providing the sense of community that NR needs in order to grow and thrive. I understand what you are trying to get at with regards to the Senates role in the ratification process. I just think that your presentation of your argument does little to foster any sense of local community.
Vale,
Decimus Iunius Silanus.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Provincia - local or central govt? |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:54:47 -0700 (PDT) |
|
--- Decimus Iunius Silanus <danedwardsuk@-------->
wrote:
>
> Salve Luci Sicini,
>
> >The idea that a Provincial Governor is not the
> >business of all ofa wrong assumption based on a
> >misunderstanding of thr roles of the Provinces and
> the
> >Governor in a Roman system.
>
> >Section V C of the Constitution clearly states
> >"The Senate may, by Senatus Consultum, create
> >provincia for administrative purposes ...."
>
> >So the province is nothing more than an
> administrative
> >district of the Central government, NOT a basic
> unit
> >of local government. The unit of local government
> in a
> >Roman system is the Municipia, NOT the Province.
>
> >The Governor is appointed by the Senate. He is Nova
> >Roma's represenative to the Province. He answers to
> >the Senate, NOT to the citizens of the province. He
> >does NOT represent the Citizens of the province,
> >rather he represents Nova Roma.
>
> >We are not discussing Vendia's represenative, we
> are
> >discussing Nova Roma's represenative to Vendia, and
> if
> >any citizens have concerns over Nova Roma's
> >represenatives to the provinces it is their duty to
> >make these concerns known to the Senate.
>
> >Valete,
> >L. Sicinius Drusus
> >Propraetor America Austrorientalis
>
> So by this definition, if I met the criteria, I
> could become propraetor of Venedia province or any
> other province for that matter. After all, that's
> how Rome did it - Governors of provinces were the
> politicians from Rome itself and not from the
> provinces they were sent to govern.
>
> However, given the internationalist flavour of NR, I
> believe it would be more beneficial to all if
> provinces are managed at a more local level, thus
> providing the sense of community that NR needs in
> order to grow and thrive. I understand what you are
> trying to get at with regards to the Senates role in
> the ratification process. I just think that your
> presentation of your argument does little to foster
> any sense of local community.
>
> Vale,
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus.
>
Salve,
In Antiquita local government was provided by the
municipia, NOT at the provincial level. The provinces
are simply too large to be anything more than
adminastrative districts in the long run. 5 years from
now we may have some provinces that have more active
citizens than all of Nova Roma has today.
We don't need to create an unhistoric model for the
provinces just because it has some short term
advantages. It will cause too many problems later on.
What we need is to start planning for the future with
a lex that sets up the municipia. Then we can start
setting up local governments that will be far more
responsive to the longterm needs of our citizens than
any of the huge provinces we have now.
I Think that in about 10 years most of our citizens
will be more concerned about who the head of their
municipia is, rather who the Consul of Nova Roma is.
As in Antiquita, the municipia will have a greater
impact on their daily lives than distant Roma.
Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Provincia - local or central govt? |
| From: |
"Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:02:11 +0100 |
|
Salve Luci Sicini,
>In Antiquita local government was provided by the
>municipia, NOT at the provincial level. The provinces
>are simply too large to be anything more than
>adminastrative districts in the long run. 5 years from
>now we may have some provinces that have more active
>citizens than all of Nova Roma has today.
>We don't need to create an unhistoric model for the
>provinces just because it has some short term
>advantages. It will cause too many problems later on.
>What we need is to start planning for the future with
>a lex that sets up the municipia. Then we can start
>setting up local governments that will be far more
>responsive to the longterm needs of our citizens than
>any of the huge provinces we have now.
>I Think that in about 10 years most of our citizens
>will be more concerned about who the head of their
>municipia is, rather who the Consul of Nova Roma is.
>As in Antiquita, the municipia will have a greater
>impact on their daily lives than distant Roma.
>Vale,
>L. Sicinius Drusus
I thank you for your explanation. I agree with you that we should remain as close to antiquita as much as we possibly can. How would you envisage municipia working? What would be their role? Would there be local magistrates elected by the local populace, chosen by the provincial governor or selected by central government? Who would be they be responsible to? I'd be grateful for your thoughts on this.
What about in the meantime. If, as you say, the formation of municipia is still a while off yet, what can be done to foster this sense of community that I was talking of previously. Surely at the moment this can only be done at a provincial level and consequently some sort of local accountabilty is required. Judging by what you said before, you seem to think this should not be the case and provinces are merely a segment of central government. As before, I'd be interested in your thoughts.
Vale,
Decimus Iunius Silanus.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Emergency |
| From: |
QFabiusMaxmi@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:45:13 EDT |
|
Salvete!
With the emergency in NYC by the attack on the WTT by an unknown power, I
will be unavailable for an unknown amount of time.
I regret any problems this causes Rome, and the Senate.
Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] I am... aghast .... :....( |
| From: |
Lucilla Cornelia Cinna <CorneliaLucilla@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:06:35 +0200 |
|
Quirites,
today some individuals have performed a series of gruesome terroist
attacks on the USA and it seems to be the most terrible terrorist attack
ever performed on this world. Several civil planes were hijacked, two
of them struck the towers of the World Trade Center in New York City
which both collapsed, one hit the Pentagon and set it on fire. According
to the news, US forces found themselves forced to shoot down a civil
Boeing 747 in Pennsylvania.
I want to utter my deepest condolence for the victims, their friends and
relatives, my sympathy for all American people, my compassion for the
pilots who had to bring down an apparently hijacked civil plane and kill
their own people to prevent another act of terrorism. They are all in my
prayers from now on.
I am utterly depressed that there are human beings who plan and perform
an apolyptic scenario like this and I pray that they will be caught,
taken to court and punished.
This day will change our world even more like the fall of the Berlin wall.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Provincia - local or central govt? |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:53:25 -0700 (PDT) |
|
--- Decimus Iunius Silanus <danedwardsuk@-------->
wrote:
> Salve Luci Sicini,
>
> >In Antiquita local government was provided by the
> >municipia, NOT at the provincial level. The
> provinces
> >are simply too large to be anything more than
> >adminastrative districts in the long run. 5 years
> from
> >now we may have some provinces that have more
> active
> >citizens than all of Nova Roma has today.
>
> >We don't need to create an unhistoric model for the
> >provinces just because it has some short term
> >advantages. It will cause too many problems later
> on.
>
> >What we need is to start planning for the future
> with
> >a lex that sets up the municipia. Then we can start
> >setting up local governments that will be far more
> >responsive to the longterm needs of our citizens
> than
> >any of the huge provinces we have now.
>
> >I Think that in about 10 years most of our citizens
> >will be more concerned about who the head of their
> >municipia is, rather who the Consul of Nova Roma
> is.
> >As in Antiquita, the municipia will have a greater
> >impact on their daily lives than distant Roma.
>
> >Vale,
> >L. Sicinius Drusus
>
> I thank you for your explanation. I agree with you
> that we should remain as close to antiquita as much
> as we possibly can. How would you envisage municipia
> working? What would be their role? Would there be
> local magistrates elected by the local populace,
> chosen by the provincial governor or selected by
> central government? Who would be they be responsible
> to? I'd be grateful for your thoughts on this.
>
> What about in the meantime. If, as you say, the
> formation of municipia is still a while off yet,
> what can be done to foster this sense of community
> that I was talking of previously. Surely at the
> moment this can only be done at a provincial level
> and consequently some sort of local accountabilty is
> required. Judging by what you said before, you seem
> to think this should not be the case and provinces
> are merely a segment of central government. As
> before, I'd be interested in your thoughts.
>
> Vale,
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus.
>
>
Decimus Iunius,
Do you mind if I reply at a latter time?
I am very upset about the tragedy that occured in NY
this morning, and I'm not in the mood to discuss this
now.
L. Sicinius Drusus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] National Guard Call Up |
| From: |
"Adrian Gunn" <shinjikun@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:01:00 -0000 |
|
Salvete,
I may be unavailable the next few days due to a possible call up of
my Army National Guard unit. I'll keep everyone posted - looks like
we may be at be at war.
Valete,
C. Miuncius Hadrianus
Legatus of Massachusetts
Provincia Nova Britannia
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: I am... aghast .... :....( |
| From: |
ksterne@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:01:38 -0000 |
|
Salve Lucilla Cornelia,
>>I am utterly depressed that there are human beings who plan and
perform an apolyptic scenario like this and I pray that they will be
caught, taken to court and punished.<<
Your post is appreciated. As to punishment, I'm afraid the US must
now consider itself at war. Trials and courts may be put aside. The
US must and will retaliate, possibly even with nuclear weapons. More
innocent people will die.
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ***NEWS*** |
| From: |
"william wheeler" <holyconelia@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:00:54 +0000 |
|
AMERICA UNDER ATTACK
World Trade Centers collapse after planes hit, 10,000 emergency workers head
to scene
Plane hits Pentagon, part of the Pentagon collapses
NTSB says United plane goes down near Pittsburgh
Bush calls trade center crashes terrorist act
Federal buildings, United Nations evacuated
FAA grounds all U.S. flights, sends trans-Atlantic flights to Canada
Israel evacuates embassies
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: National Guard Call Up |
| From: |
"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <julilla@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:18:05 -0000 |
|
--- In novaroma@--------, "Adrian Gunn" <shinjikun@s...> wrote:
> Salvete,
>
> I may be unavailable the next few days due to a possible call up of
> my Army National Guard unit. I'll keep everyone posted - looks like
> we may be at be at war.
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Miuncius Hadrianus
> Legatus of Massachusetts
> Provincia Nova Britannia
May the gods be with you and your fellow guard, and with all members
of NovaRoma who serve our country. Our prayers are with you and the
dead and injured.
---
cura et valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| http://julilla.tripod.com/
Daily Life in Ancient Rome
@____@ julilla@--------
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Provincia - local or central govt? |
| From: |
loos@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:48:37 -0300 |
|
Decimus Iunius Silanus wrote:
>
> Salve Luci Sicini,
>
> >In Antiquita local government was provided by the
> >municipia, NOT at the provincial level. The provinces
> >are simply too large to be anything more than
> >adminastrative districts in the long run. 5 years from
> >now we may have some provinces that have more active
> >citizens than all of Nova Roma has today.
>
> >We don't need to create an unhistoric model for the
> >provinces just because it has some short term
> >advantages. It will cause too many problems later on.
>
> >What we need is to start planning for the future with
> >a lex that sets up the municipia. Then we can start
> >setting up local governments that will be far more
> >responsive to the longterm needs of our citizens than
> >any of the huge provinces we have now.
>
> >I Think that in about 10 years most of our citizens
> >will be more concerned about who the head of their
> >municipia is, rather who the Consul of Nova Roma is.
> >As in Antiquita, the municipia will have a greater
> >impact on their daily lives than distant Roma.
>
> >Vale,
> >L. Sicinius Drusus
>
> I thank you for your explanation. I agree with you that we should remain as close to antiquita as much as we possibly can. How would you envisage municipia working? What would be their role? Would there be local magistrates elected by the local populace, chosen by the provincial governor or selected by central government? Who would be they be responsible to? I'd be grateful for your thoughts on this.
Salvete,
if we base ourself on antique Rome the municipes would be near to free
states,
with local elected magistrates, responsible to their electors only.
Totally freeto establish whatever government type they want etc.
Vale,
Manius Villius Limitanus
>
> What about in the meantime. If, as you say, the formation of municipia is > still a while off yet, what can be done to foster this sense of community that I was talking of previously. Surely at the moment this can only be done at a provincial level and consequently some sort of local accountabilty is required. Judging by what you said before, you seem to think this should not be the case and provinces are merely a segment of central government. As before, I'd be interested in your thoughts.
>
> Vale,
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus.
>
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>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Wrong Assumption (Was Suspicion ) |
| From: |
"rabotnik@" <rabotnik@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:10:34 -0000 |
|
Salve Sicini Drusi!
thank you for explanation but i have to simply say dont use Venedia to privet figths
Venedia is not war tool this is my home, pay some respect to this
if you want to figth with Marcus Apollonius do this other way
Vale!
Petrus Artorius Longinus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Oath of Office |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Claudia=20Maxima=20Dea?= <eleteia@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:15:04 +0200 (CEST) |
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I, Claudia Maxima Dea (Sofia Wallin), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma,
and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Claudia Maxima Dea (Sofia Wallin), swear to honor the Gods and
Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.
I, Claudia Maxima Dea (Sofia Wallin), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.
I, Claudia Maxima Dea (Sofia Wallin), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Claudia Maxima Dea (Sofia Wallin), further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Praeses et Decemvir Conventus Informatoria Thules to the best of
my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman
people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Praeses et Decemvir Conventus
Informatoria Thules and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant
thereto.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: National Guard Call Up |
| From: |
ksterne@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:22:34 -0000 |
|
>>May the gods be with you and your fellow guard, and with all
members of NovaRoma who serve our country. Our prayers are with you
and the dead and injured.<<
Well said Julilla Sempronia
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Today's events |
| From: |
Steven - Piparskeggr <catamount_grange@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:32:56 -0500 |
|
Hail and Salvete,
I call the Blessing of That Which is Holy upon the victims and their
families.
I call upon That Which Is Wisdom to guide our leaders in a calm,
deliberate and brutal response.
I call upon That Which Looks Upon Warriors to guide them safely through
their duty, back to their families.
I call upon That Which Is Justice to help bring a resolution to this and
othe such murders worldwide.
and to the perpetrators,
May their names be as dust,
May their children forget them,
May shame be their legacy.
--
=========================================
In sadness and anger
- Piparskeggr skjaldberi Ullar
Alias
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] ***NEWS*** |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:17:22 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Salve,
They are recommending that everyone who can do so should give blood
today. There are at least 1,000 people known to be injured.
As I carry the highly prized "O negative" within me, I have made
an appointment to be bled this afternoon.
Vale, Octavius.
> AMERICA UNDER ATTACK
> World Trade Centers collapse after planes hit, 10,000 emergency workers head
> to scene
> Plane hits Pentagon, part of the Pentagon collapses
> NTSB says United plane goes down near Pittsburgh
> Bush calls trade center crashes terrorist act
> Federal buildings, United Nations evacuated
> FAA grounds all U.S. flights, sends trans-Atlantic flights to Canada
> Israel evacuates embassies
M. Octavius Germanicus
Propraetor, Lacus Magni
Curator Araneum et Senator
"... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
their C programs." -- Robert Firth
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] My condolences |
| From: |
Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:11:02 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete Quirites.
I want to offer my condolences to all our American cives, and
especially to those living in New York, Washington and Pittsburgh.
This attacks have shocked me deeply.
Rest assured that the population of most parts of the world absolutely
supports you in this time of sorrow.
=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Triumvir Academiae Novae Romae in Thule
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Novae Romae in Thule.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] My condolences |
| From: |
loos@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:51:08 -0300 |
|
Gnaeus Salix Astur wrote:
>
> Salvete Quirites.
>
> I want to offer my condolences to all our American cives, and
> especially to those living in New York, Washington and Pittsburgh.
>
> This attacks have shocked me deeply.
>
> Rest assured that the population of most parts of the world absolutely
> supports you in this time of sorrow.
Salvete,
I wish to join in this statement, no grief against a nation or nations
government should ever lead to such action involving the death of so
many civilians.
Vale.
Manius Villius Limitanus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] My Thoughts, Sympathies and PraYers |
| From: |
trog99@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:27:51 -0000 |
|
Salvete Omnes;
I awoke this morning, to what I am sure, is the most shocking news I
have heard during my lifetime.
My prayers to the American citizens, who are left country-wise, in a
state of shock and fear. My heart especially goes out to those
Americans in NYC, DC, and Penn.
Those around the world are mortified, frightened and saddened.
As my Canadian PrimeMinister said earlier today, there is absolutely
no justification for such an amoral disregard for the lives of so many
innocent people.
How can people be so depraved as to hold human life, even their own,
at such invalue?
I will take Senator Marcus Octavius' excellent suggestion and
volunteer to give blood. I am only two miles from the American
hospital. I'm not sure if our local hospitals have set up a blood
clinic, yet. I applaud his excellent suggestion. We are all asking
ourself, likely, what it is we can do. Well, we can do that, most of
us.
I applaud all those Nova Romani who are in the American Military who
will be on high alert working toward some semblence of normalcy and
security. You protect not only American security, but the security of
your Canadian neighbours up north.
I pray for the victims and their families; the families of these
victims/casualties will be in need of some intense healing.
Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] The Condolencesn of the Provincia Thule |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:00:21 +0200 |
|
Salvete Quirites.
Today I dare speak on the behalf of the Nova Roma citizens living in
Provincia Thule, when I send our deep condolences to our fellowcitizens in
USA. In this time of grief and chock it feels necessary to reach out to
You, the whole American people and all good people on this planet. Let the
Good win!
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Quaestor of Nova Roma
Propraetor of Thule
Accensus to Consul Marcus Cassius Julianus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] mourning |
| From: |
"Manius Constantinus Serapio" <manius_constantinus_serapio@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:05:02 -0000 |
|
AVETE OMNES
I know that maybe my request is too big for the Res Publica of
Nova Roma.
My family has been personally involved in the recent disaster in
NYC.
I would ask if it is possible do declare a day of mourning in Nova
Roma because of the deaths of a citizens' relatives during such a
circumstance.
Anyway, if it isn't possible, I see.
I thank you all for your understanding.
Salvi sitis omnes ac Dii vos protegant semper.
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Civis Provinciae Italiae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] sorry |
| From: |
"Manius Constantinus Serapio" <manius_constantinus_serapio@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:10:06 -0000 |
|
AVETE
Sorry: I obviously didn't proposed a day of mourning ONLY for my
relatives. I will always remember this disaster and the tousands of
people that are involved in.
VALETE MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Emergency |
| From: |
Daniel Dreesbach <stakor2000@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:27:01 -0700 (PDT) |
|
No problem. We stand with you.
Gaius Geminius Germanus
QFabiusMaxmi@-------- wrote: Salvete!
With the emergency in NYC by the attack on the WTT by an unknown power, I
will be unavailable for an unknown amount of time.
I regret any problems this causes Rome, and the Senate.
Valete
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: I am... aghast .... :....( |
| From: |
"CJ Sitter" <otto_von_sitter@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:44:12 -0000 |
|
I hope to God we don't use nukes, but I also hope those
responsible will pay. Remember this day, today is history.
Marcus Cornelius Tiberius
--- In novaroma@--------, ksterne@b... wrote:
> Salve Lucilla Cornelia,
>
> >>I am utterly depressed that there are human beings who
plan and
> perform an apolyptic scenario like this and I pray that they will
be
> caught, taken to court and punished.<<
>
> Your post is appreciated. As to punishment, I'm afraid the US
must
> now consider itself at war. Trials and courts may be put aside.
The
> US must and will retaliate, possibly even with nuclear
weapons. More
> innocent people will die.
>
> Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: sorry |
| From: |
trog99@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:32:11 -0000 |
|
---
Salve Mani:
I am sure you had all victims in mind in your proposed day of
mourning. I am so terribly sorry for the pain your feel, and the
tragedies of your relatives. You are in my prayers.
Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia
In novaroma@--------, "Manius Constantinus Serapio"
<manius_constantinus_serapio@--------> wrote:
> AVETE
>
> Sorry: I obviously didn't proposed a day of mourning ONLY for my
> relatives. I will always remember this disaster and the tousands of
> people that are involved in.
>
> VALETE MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] mourning |
| From: |
AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete,
That we are all already in mourning goes without
saying and the period of mourning will last well
beyond this day. The devastation we witnessed today is
the worst kind of violation of our freedom and trust
and the ramifications of this vile act will stay with
us for all time. Thank you to those provinces outside
the United States who support us and grieve with us.
It is greatly appreciated to see that we are truly
united in Nova Roma in this time of great sorrow. And
strength to those that seek justice and that it may be
expedient and resolute.
Valete,
Antonia Cornelia Octavia
--- Manius Constantinus Serapio
<manius_constantinus_serapio@--------> wrote:
> AVETE OMNES
>
> I know that maybe my request is too big for the
> Res Publica of
> Nova Roma.
> My family has been personally involved in the
> recent disaster in
> NYC.
> I would ask if it is possible do declare a day of
> mourning in Nova
> Roma because of the deaths of a citizens' relatives
> during such a
> circumstance.
> Anyway, if it isn't possible, I see.
> I thank you all for your understanding.
>
> Salvi sitis omnes ac Dii vos protegant semper.
>
> MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
> Civis Provinciae Italiae
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] mourning |
| From: |
Lucilla Cornelia Cinna <CorneliaLucilla@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:01:14 +0200 |
|
Salve M' Constantine Serapio
Manius Constantinus Serapio wrote:
>I know that maybe my request is too big for the Res Publica of
>Nova Roma.
>
No, it is not. To comply with your request is the least NR can offer for
what happened.
>I would ask if it is possible do declare a day of mourning in Nova
>Roma because of the deaths of a citizens' relatives during such a
>circumstance.
>
It is a day of mourning. It is a really dies ater for all civilized
countries and for humanity.
An act of apocalyptic cynism, to plan and perform such an insidious
assault on helpless civilians using helpless civilians! Neither the
passengers of the planes nor the people in the WTC and in the streets of
Manhattan had any weapons to defend themselves, nor did they have any
belligerent intentions.
If possible, I would like to propose that this day be called a dies ater ...
Di deaewue res bene vertant
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] My Condolances |
| From: |
"Bjarne Sinkjaer" <bjsink@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:29:05 -0000 |
|
Ave
I would like to send my condolences and prayers to all Americans.
There can be no excuse for an act like this – it is indeed a dark
hour for all humanity.
Respectfully
A. Cornelius Sallust
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Thank you all |
| From: |
VMoeller@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:38:15 EDT |
|
Salvete:
Amid the swirl of events and media reports of the devastation emerging from New York, and Washington D.C. I read the touching messages of condolence from many Nova Romans, especially those of my sorors Lucilla Cornelia Cinna, and Pompeia Cornelia Strabo.
All I can say is that I feel a great mourning has been relieved a little bit by their exquisite expressions. To their own and other sentiments expressed I say "Thank you". Sometimes the words we write can have great soothing effects for others.
Valete
---Secunda Cornelia Valeria
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Simple Gifts |
| From: |
VMoeller@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:58:11 EDT |
|
Salvete All,
I just can't get this song out of my mind now:
It is called "Simple Gifts" an old Shaker song composed by a sect of Christians who believed in industry, chastity, and celibacy among other things. It's sung to the tune of Aaron Copeland's "Appalachian Spring".
Simple Gifts...
'Tis the gift to be simple,
'Tis the gift to be free,
'Tis the gift to come down where we ought to be,
And when we find ourselves in the place just right,
It will be in the valley of love and delight.
When true simplicity is gained,
to bow and to bend, we will not be ashamed
To turn, turn, will be our delight,
'Til by turning, turning, we come round right.
Respectfully,
---Secunda Cornelia Valeria
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Condolences |
| From: |
danielovi@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:35:11 -0000 |
|
In the name of the cives from Argentina and myself I wish to express
our condolences to all the american citizens for the horror that
happened today in NY. I know this is off topic, but I know that our
Curatrix sermonis will understand. The terror shocked the whole world.
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Proprator provincialis Argentinae
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