| Subject: |
[novaroma] Calendar Novae Romae |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 08 Oct 2001 20:58:34 -0400 |
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Salvete cives et amici,
First off, I wish to say that the new calendar is much more user friendly
then the old one and I like it. Although I cannot enjoy these new features
to the fullest extent because the lack of information on our festivals and
holidays. It would be nice if our calendar could have the same amount of
information as this one I personally use:
http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romecal.html.
It is great to know the name of a festival although it won't do much good
unless there is information to go along with the event. Having more in depth
information on our holidays and festivals of our ancestors seems like a
logical first step in rebuilding them. I do hope this is being looked into
by the Collegium Pontificum.
Valete,
"Quamquam cupido sis delictum ab sui crebro sum mater ab vitualis"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www.freehost.nu/members/canorien
Gens Claudia Website:
www.freehost.nu/members/gensclaudia/
--
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Calendar Novae Romae |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:39:06 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salve Amuli Claudi,
> First off, I wish to say that the new calendar is much more user friendly
> then the old one and I like it. Although I cannot enjoy these new features
> to the fullest extent because the lack of information on our festivals and
> holidays.
That'll be there eventually.
I will build an interface that will allow any magistrate or priest to
add events to the calendar by filling out a web form. However, it will
be a few more weeks before this is available... the calendar you see
now took about a day to build, and the data-entry tools will take
nearly as long. All the events that are there now were inserted
into the database manually by me.
Pontifices A. Gryllus and L. Equitius are working on gathering the
information on the various holidays.
Vale, Octavius.
--
M. Octavius Germanicus
Propraetor, Lacus Magni
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Virtues |
| From: |
AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 8 Oct 2001 17:18:07 -0700 (PDT) |
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--- "G. Etcheverius Burdigalus" <burdigalus@-------->
wrote:
> Salve Consul,
> An excellant post.
> The one virtue I would add would be to add Virtus to
> the list of personal virtues as well as keeping it
> listed within the public virtues.
> Without courage nothing of consequence or worth is
> achievable. With a courageous population there is
> almost nothing we cannot accomplish.
> Vele,
> Burdigalus
Salve Burdigalus,
Virtus was a virtue. It was considered a public
virtue. But you're right, without it Roma would not
have been Roma.
Vale,
Antonia Cornelia Octavia
> --- "L. Cornelius Sulla Felix"
> <alexious@--------> wrote:
> > Ave,
> >
> > Recently in the Gens Cornelia list, I have started
> > some discussion on various topics related to Rome.
>
> > Last week we started a discussion on Auctoritas,
> and
> > I found it very interesting in some of the
> responses
> > I got. Well today I have a new question, both for
> > my gens members and for Nova Roma in general. On
> > the Virtues Page there is a list of virtues that
> we
> > all should strive to live by. My question is are
> > there virtues that should be there but are not?
> If
> > you could add one new virtue what would it be?
> and
> > why?
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > Censor
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Virtues |
| From: |
Publius Sentius Rutilianus Dexion <rapax@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:53:25 +0300 |
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Avete...
This is indeed a great question and I can list many other virtues to
the list but
right now I've found one as the most appealing to the principles of our
republic..
(And pehaps also to the times we are living now).
I've searched my Latin dictionary and found the name..Tolerantia!
My dictionary says it means both 'Tolerance and Endurance'.
In Nova Roma we need it because we are from many countries which each
have unique cultural backgrounds.But we are here for we feel somehow
belonged
to Roma.So,we all must be tolerant and respectful to other
cultures,faiths and views.
As for the Endurance...the ages have passed..but we are still here!Rome
is still alive
with us!And will be alive as long as we and our children will live!
Valete...
Publius Sentius Rutilianus Dexion
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Ave,
>
>Recently in the Gens Cornelia list, I have started some discussion on
>various topics related to Rome. Last week we started a discussion on
>Auctoritas, and I found it very interesting in some of the responses I
>got. Well today I have a new question, both for my gens members and for
>Nova Roma in general. On the Virtues Page there is a list of virtues that
>we all should strive to live by. My question is are there virtues that
>should be there but are not? If you could add one new virtue what would
>it be? and why?
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>Censor
>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem VII Idus Octobres (October 9th) |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:10:03 +0100 |
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Pontifex Antonius Gryllus Graecus omnibus salutem
This is one of the dies comitiales (C), when committees of citizens can
vote on political or criminal matters.
Today we cellebrate the Genivs Pvblicus, Fausta Felicitas and Venvs Victrix
in the Capitol. These sacred places on the Capitol are known only from the
calendar entries. The date of their construction in not known; indeed it is
uncertain whether there were three seperate shrines, altars, or temples. The
Genius Publicus also had a temple or altar near the temple of Concord,
mentioned in 43 BC (Dio Cass. 57.2.3). The temple of Fausta Felicitas might
be identifiable with that of 1 July, while Pompey had built a temple to
Venus Victrix (12 Aug).
Di vos incolumes custodiant
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Calendar Novae Romae |
| From: |
ksterne@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 09 Oct 2001 13:23:58 -0000 |
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--- In novaroma@--------, Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@b...> wrote:
>>It would be nice if our calendar could have the same amount of
information as this one I personally use:
http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romecal.html.<<
Salve Amuli Claudi,
I too used the above calendar, but was advised by Pontifex Antonius
Gryllus that it is inaccurate.
The Pontifex may be able to elaborate more.
Vale,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Calendar Novae Romae |
| From: |
amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:56:07 -0000 |
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Salvete Gai Popilli Laenas et ali amici
Yes, the calendar you refer is quite innacurate and it also has some
erroneous information:
- The classification of days (fasti, nefasti, comitialis, etc.) is
not always correct and I think that the reason is that the author has
mixed info from calendars belonging to different periods. As an
example, the layout of the calendar is based on pre-Julian calendar
found at Anzio. Nevertheless the author has adapted it to be a Julian
calendar by mixing info taken from surviving calendars of the
imperial period (e.g. March 22 is classified both as N and F and the
same happens in May; March 24 is classified both as QRCF and F, etc.).
- The dates of some festivals are wrong. (e.g Lemuria is May 9, 11
and 13, and not May 7-15; mola salsa is prepared by the Vestals from
May 7 to 14 while the site extends this to May 15)
- Several festivals are missing (mainly dies natalis of temples).
- The descriptions of the festivals are sometimes wrong or include
invented material (probably the author is relying on some erroneous
sources) not attested in surviving evidence. (e.g The Agonalia of
December 11 is dedicated to Sol Indiges, not Ianus).
We expect to present better information in the forthcoming NR
calendar.
Valete bene
Graecus
--- In novaroma@--------, ksterne@b... wrote:
> --- In novaroma@--------, Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@b...> wrote:
> >>It would be nice if our calendar could have the same amount of
> information as this one I personally use:
>
> http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romecal.html.<<
>
> Salve Amuli Claudi,
>
> I too used the above calendar, but was advised by Pontifex Antonius
> Gryllus that it is inaccurate.
>
> The Pontifex may be able to elaborate more.
>
> Vale,
> Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Proceedings of an International Symposium held at Columbia University. |
| From: |
QFabiusMaxmi@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:20:01 EDT |
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FYI. Karageorghis is one of the renowned expert on Cyprus.
Bonfante, L. and Karageorghis, V. eds:
> Italy and Cyprus in Antiquity: 1500-400 B.C.
>
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> for Advanced Studies in America at Columbia University, Nov. 16-18,
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> Nicosia 2001. Price CYPŁ35.00.
>
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>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Calendar Novae Romae |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:40:43 -0400 |
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Salve,
>amg@-------- wrote:
>
> Yes, the calendar you refer is quite innacurate and it also has some
> erroneous information:
I see. Still, it has a good amount of research within it. For the most part
I use it as a source of extra information on our current official Nova Roma
fasti.
I also found this very interesting document that is piled full of
information at:
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/OM/MS-S.txt
> We expect to present better information in the forthcoming NR
> calendar.
It would be wonderful to see calendar with all the good aspects of the
others integrated into one official Nova Roma calendar.
Vale,
"Quamquam cupido sis delictum ab sui crebro sum mater ab vitualis"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www.freehost.nu/members/canorien
Gens Claudia Website:
www.freehost.nu/members/gensclaudia/
--
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Calendar Novae Romae |
| From: |
"Teleri ferch Nyfain" <rckovak@--------> |
| Date: |
Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:54:03 -0400 |
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Salve,
I just love this new calendar - I find it easier to understand than the one mentioned at the other website (which I've been referring to). Good job :-)
Vale bene,
Helena Galeria
I will build an interface that will allow any magistrate or priest to
add events to the calendar by filling out a web form. However, it will
be a few more weeks before this is available... the calendar you see
now took about a day to build, and the data-entry tools will take
nearly as long. All the events that are there now were inserted
into the database manually by me.
Pontifices A. Gryllus and L. Equitius are working on gathering the
information on the various holidays.
Vale, Octavius.
--
M. Octavius Germanicus
Propraetor, Lacus Magni
Curator Araneum et Senator
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