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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Virtues
From:	cassius622@--------
Date:	Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:59:09 EDT

--- In novaroma@--------, "L. Cornelius Sulla Felix" <alexious@e...> wrote:
> Ave,
>
> Recently in the Gens Cornelia list, I have started some discussion on
various topics related to Rome. Last week we started a discussion on
Auctoritas, and I found it very interesting in some of the responses I got.
Well today I have a new question, both for my gens members and for Nova Roma
in general. On the Virtues Page there is a list of virtues that we all
should strive to live by. My question is are there virtues that should be
there but are not? If you could add one new virtue what would it be? and
why?
>

Salvete,

It is always possible that if we could poll a few "ancient" Romans, there
would be qualities that they would expect to see listed among the Roman
virtues that are not up on the NR site. Like all works in Nova Roma, they
are "as complete as possible" up to a certain time. That doesn't mean that
the work is completed!

Yet we should remember there may be virtues that WE feel are important that
weren't spefically focused on often, or as a single quality in ancient times.
This is especally true in light of some current events.

Perhaps we might consider listing some NOVA Roman Virtues, to compare our
views and needs to those of antiquity? It might help define our present as
well as our past, and perhaps there might be a quality or two that should be
on both lists.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Virtues
From:	Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@-------->
Date:	Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:02:20 -0500

Avete Cassius et Omnes,

Perhaps a simple form of the Virtues? Do that which is Right, with
Wisdom, Generosity and Personal Honor.

--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html

Aut mulsum aut nihil!
(either mead, or nothing!)

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: Virtues
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla Felix" <alexious@-------->
Date:	Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:07:31 -0700

Ave,

And always treat people the way you want to be treated.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: Piparskeggr - Venator
To: novaroma@--------
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:02 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Virtues

Avete Cassius et Omnes,

Perhaps a simple form of the Virtues? Do that which is Right, with
Wisdom, Generosity and Personal Honor.

--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html

Aut mulsum aut nihil!
(either mead, or nothing!)

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Subject:	[novaroma] Daily Reading: Publius Ovidius Naso
From:	"Vibius Invictus Naso" <jbare@-------->
Date:	Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:00:06 -0500

Salve,

A reading...

Publius Ovidius Naso
Metamorphoses
Book II
Phaethon

Apollo's plea with his son, Phaethon, not to drive the chariot of the sun...

Suppose my chariot yours: what then? Could you
Confront the spinning poles and not be swept
Away by the swift axis if the world?
Perhaps you fancy cities of the gods are there
And groves and temples rich with offerings.
No! Wild beasts lie in wait and shapes of fear!
And though you keep your course and steer aright,
Yet you shall meet the Bull, must brave his horns,
And face the Archer and the ravening Lion,
The long curved circuit of the Scorpion's claws,
The Crab whose claws in counter-menace wave.
My horses too, when fire within their breasts
Rages, from mouth and nostrils breathing flames,
Are hard to hold; even I can scarce restrain
Their ardent hearts, their necks that fight the rein.
But, O my son, amend, while time remains,
Your choice, so may my gift not be your doom.
Sure proof you seek of fatherhood; indeed
My dread sure proof affords: a father's fear
Proves me your father. Look into my eyes!
Would you could look into my heart and see
And understand your father's agony!
See, last, how rich the world around you lies,
The bounty of the lands, the seas, the skies;
Choose what you will of these - it shall be yours.
But this alone, not this! Bane truly named
Not glory, Phaethon - bane this gift not boon!
Why fold me in your arms, fond foolish boy?
By Styx I swore and I shall not refuse,
Whate'er your choice: but oh! more wisely choose!

Vale,
Vibius Invictus Naso
"A Citizen Hopeful"


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Virtues
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 03:02:53 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, "L. Cornelius Sulla Felix" <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> Ave,
>
> And always treat people the way you want to be treated.

Avete Pater et Alii: I would just like to put "legs" on the above, by
suggesting that "what goes around, comes around". This seems to be a
tried and true "law" transcending any spiritual viewpoint. And,
regardless of how it is worded, it is preached by Islan, Judaism,
Christianity, Wicca, and I am sure when I examine the virtues, and the
writings of antiquity, the concept is the way of the Roman pantheon.

Valete
Pompeia Cornelia

>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Piparskeggr - Venator
> To: novaroma@--------
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:02 PM
> Subject: [novaroma] Re: Virtues
>
>
> Avete Cassius et Omnes,
>
> Perhaps a simple form of the Virtues? Do that which is Right,
with
> Wisdom, Generosity and Personal Honor.
>
> --
> =========================================
> In Amicus sub Fidelis
> - Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
> Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
> Domus Familias
> http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html
>
> Aut mulsum aut nihil!
> (either mead, or nothing!)
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
>
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] Daily Reading: Ovidius
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 03:09:17 -0000

Salve Pending Citizen Publius Ovidius:

Hey, that excerpt from the Metamorphosis was very enjoyable. I
especially enjoy reading about Apollo.

You can post this sort of thing, anytime .............Hint, Hint :)

Welcome to the community, by the way.

Valete,

Pompeia Cornelia

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Subject:	[novaroma] Aut Musim Aut Nihil?
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 03:12:58 -0000

Oh Veni:

You are telling me that if I put a bodiful fruity chardonnay below
your nose, you wouldn't drink it?

Faustan Falernian?

Man are you picky!!! :) :)

Po


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Aut Musim Aut Nihil?
From:	Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@-------->
Date:	Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:17:50 -0500

Ave Po!!!

<ROTFLMA!!!>

trog99@-------- wrote:
>
> Oh Veni:
>
> You are telling me that if I put a bodiful fruity chardonnay below
> your nose, you wouldn't drink it?
>
> Faustan Falernian?
>
> Man are you picky!!! :) :)
>
> Po
>

Ok,

Aut spiritus vini, aut nihil!

You got my soft spot: beer, wine, mead or distilled,

Either Alcoholic beverage, or nothing!

--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html

"Bother!" said Pooh, and set to field-dressing Piglet
"Sadness is a small gut pile." said Eeyore.


Subject:	[novaroma] roman lamps
From:	tekoamxai@--------
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 04:00:11 -0000

salvete!
i recently bought some ancient roman oil lamp
reproductions from a french website. i am very pleased
with them.

if anyone is interested-
http://www.multimania.com/lampesantique/

i got the e-mail address of the maker from the
website and placed the order thru private e-mail
(in english-with very little difficulty)

drusilla cassia titiana


Subject:	[novaroma] Calendar
From:	"Valerie Hartzer" <valsylph@-------->
Date:	Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:12:24 -0400

Salvete Omnes,

The new calendar looks wonderful!! MUCH improved over the old calendar! Terrific job!!

Bene vale,
Lucia Valeria Secunda Ianuaria (a new citizen!! YEAH!!)
"Try to enjoy the great festival of life with other men"
Epictetus

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Calendar
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 04:59:32 -0000

---

In novaroma@--------, "Valerie Hartzer" <vals--------@--------> wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> The new calendar looks wonderful!! MUCH improved over the old
calendar! Terrific job!!
>
> Bene vale,
> Lucia Valeria Secunda Ianuaria (a new citizen!! YEAH!!)
> "Try to enjoy the great festival of life with other men"
> Epictetus

Salve Valeria Secunda:

Many congrats on your newly attained citizenship, amica.

Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia (who hopes we will get together again soon)
>
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] ATTN [Religio Romana]: New ritual in the NT web site
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:42:41 +0100

Salvete omnes

I've just added the ritual of the Meditrinalia (with a few more details
added) to the NR site. You can access it directly at:
http://www.novaroma.org/religio_romana/Meditrinalia.html

or from the rites and rituals section:
http://www.novaroma.org/religio_romana/rites_and_rituals.html

Valete bene
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex


Subject:	[novaroma] new photos from germania superioris
From:	"Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili" <quinctilius.varus@-------->
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:47:34 -0000

salvete omnes
new photos from the colonia augusta raurica/germaniae superioris
(reenactment 6.oct.2001)

http://mitglied.tripod.de/VARUS2/romec/index.html

valete bene!
quintus quinctilius varus galili
legatus germaniae superioris
II. duumvir colonia augusta raurica
quaestor/argentarius cives rauraci


Subject:	[novaroma] Time to Vote Now
From:	"Appius Tullius Cato" <a.cato@-------->
Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:40:25 -0400

Salvete Quirites: I would like to remind all citizens that voting is now taking place in the Comitia Centuriata. I hope to see a good turn out. Please go to the Cista at http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/voting/index.html
It only takes a minute, and it is the privilege and duty of every Nova Roman. Every citizen can have their say in the government of Nova Roma this way. It is one of our rights, and an extremely important right. Let's get a big turn-out this time.
Valete, ... Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
Rogator, Novae Romae
Procurator, Provincia Canadae Orientalis

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