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Re: [novaroma] New citizen |
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"Caius Puteus Germanicus" <puteus@--------> |
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Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:37:47 +0100 |
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Salve Lucie Maxime!
As a member of the provincia Gallia I would like to welcome you. Whatever question you have, fire it!
I have one for you: what part of Gallia are you from? I am from Gallia Borealis (Germania Inferior). To communicate with me privately - if you wish - you can always use Dutch or French (I am better at those languages than in English).
Enjoy!
Vale optime in pace deorum!
Caius Puteus Germanicus
Civis Provinciae Novae Romae Galliae / Germaniae Inferioris
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Re: [novaroma] nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
"Lucius Maximus Serranus" <luciusmaximusserranus@--------> |
Date: |
Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:50:36 +0100 |
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Salve Cai,
My experience with Nova Roma is very little but here's what I think concerning your message. It is true that families were something really important for any Roman. Before being a Roman citizen they were part of the family. I beleive the gens are very important because they represent the first and closest interaction a citizen has with other Novoromani.
As you suggested, I think that a few gens with a lot of people in it would be a good idea. By optimizing communication and organisation in it, and making sure paterfamilias are concerned in it, we would make life easier for a lot of new citizens.
I totally agree with you, except for one thing. I don't think taxes would be the right solution to make paterfamilias concerned about their gens. Instead of punishing them with taxes I suggest we think about how to promote paterfamilias who actually do a lot for their gens.
Vale,
Lucius Maximus Serranus
----- Original Message -----
From: Caius Puteus Germanicus
To: Nova Roma
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:06 PM
Subject: [novaroma] nota patres et matres familiae
Ave!
I want to react on the message concerning the names. I would like to suggest to make it more difficult for new cives to have a free choice of nomen gentium. This is: after we have cheched all the patres and matres familiae as being "active" citizens or not (via the census), we can point out that it is better to have our gentes members increase than just the numbers of gentes. Now - and I confess, I myself did the same thing - you can choose whatever name you like. This results in a lot of familiae with only a pater/mater familias and no other members.
As for myself, I first wanted to join an existing gens sharing the same deities. I recieved no reaction and so finally created my own gens, consisting of myself and my wife.
Nevertheless I think it would be better if there could be larger gentes with increasing organisation and communication. THis can be realised by two things: in the application form the choice of the name has to be prioritarily 'which gens do you want to join' and not 'what is your roman name'. Secondly, we can notify all the existing patres and matres and the new ones they will have to pay taxes in order to keep their nomen gentilum. Exiting members who refuse to pay taxes but still want to be a citizen can be adopted by other gentes.
The advantage of an organisation based on gentes are multiple: first of all, the family was the basis of Roman society. Secondly, gentes are no macronational formations. The larger part of them is accepting members from all over the planet. This means that we would finally have reached a level on which we could be Romans in the first place and not Americans, Europeans, etc.
What do you think?
Vale optime in pace deorum!
Caius Puteus Germanicus
Civis Provinciae Novae Romae Galliae / Germaniae Inferioris
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Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
"Lucius Maximus Serranus" <luciusmaximusserranus@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 04:42:00 +0100 |
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Salve Luci
Thank you for your comprehension,
Lucius Maximus Serranus
----- Original Message -----
From: Lucius Equtius Cincinnatus
To: novaroma@--------
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:51 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae
Censor Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Quiritibus SPD
Great idea, Caius, sounds much like the proposal I have made for the
past few years, whereby each gens is 'registered' annually by paying
a 'tax' ($20-$25 per gens) and each gens member would be an
additional ($2-$5 a head). Those gens consisting of one member who
doesn't want to pay or those who don't want to pay the "fees" could
simply pettion to be adopted into alternative gens or gather together
and form a single gens or groups of gens, etc. Sorry to be a 'wise
guy' Caie, but I really did think of this first :-) (along with
solutions for some other recurring themes, since March 98)
As for new gens, Censor Sulla and I have drastically reduced the
number of new gens registered; however, those who apply for and are
accepted into an established gens are most often approved within a
day or two.
Note to "Lucius Maximus Serranus": I have not seen any notice from
Marcus Maximus Gaius, he needs to send approval to the Censores or
use the wonderful tool Marcus Octavius set up for Paterfamiliae to do
just that. That is what you are waiting for, not the Censores. I
cannot say how many times applicants have been frustrated, and blamed
the Censores, for having to wait to be approved as citizens because
we have not been informed or contacted in any way concerning
applications for citizenship to join their respective gens by
Patres/Matres.
Bene Omnibus nobis
--- In novaroma@--------, "Caius Puteus Germanicus" <puteus@h...> wrote:
> Ave!
>
> I want to react on the message concerning the names. I would like
to suggest to make it more difficult for new cives to have a free
choice of nomen gentium...
>
> As for myself, I first wanted to join an existing gens sharing the
same deities. I recieved no reaction and so finally created my own
gens, consisting of myself and my wife.
>
> Nevertheless I think it would be better if there could be larger
gentes with increasing organisation and communication... Exiting
members who refuse to pay taxes but still want to be a citizen can be
adopted by other gentes.
>
> The advantage of an organisation based on gentes are multiple:
first of all, the family was the basis of Roman society...>
> What do you think?
> Vale optime in pace deorum!
>
> Caius Puteus Germanicus
> Civis Provinciae Novae Romae Galliae / Germaniae Inferioris
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Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New citizen |
From: |
"Lucius Maximus Serranus" <luciusmaximusserranus@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 04:47:44 +0100 |
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Salve Cai,
I'd be glad to interact with anybody who's feeling like participating in Nova Roma's development and especially in Provincia Gallia. I'm from France and I'd be very happy to have a chat with you in French.
My AOL IM is myclem.
Vale,
Lucius Maximus Serranus
----- Original Message -----
From: Caius Puteus Germanicus
To: novaroma@--------
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] New citizen
Salve Lucie Maxime!
As a member of the provincia Gallia I would like to welcome you. Whatever question you have, fire it!
I have one for you: what part of Gallia are you from? I am from Gallia Borealis (Germania Inferior). To communicate with me privately - if you wish - you can always use Dutch or French (I am better at those languages than in English).
Enjoy!
Vale optime in pace deorum!
Caius Puteus Germanicus
Civis Provinciae Novae Romae Galliae / Germaniae Inferioris
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[novaroma] Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain |
From: |
Bill Gawne <gawne@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:11:07 -0500 |
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Salvete,
I don't know if anyone else has seen this yet, but figured
I'd forward it for those interested.
** Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain **
A fourth-century mosaic, found by accident in England, turns out to be one
of the most significant Roman finds of recent years.
http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/654123.asp
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
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Re: [novaroma] Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain |
From: |
"Lucius Maximus Serranus" <luciusmaximusserranus@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:29:45 +0100 |
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Salvete,
Maybe you already know about it.. but I saw Zeugma Roman Mosaics a few weeks ago on French TV and it was really interesting. If you like mosaics you might also be interested in this link : http://www.zeugma2000.com/zeugma.html
Vale,
Lucius Maximus Serranus
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gawne
To: novaroma@-------- ; SodalitasMilitarium@--------
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain
Salvete,
I don't know if anyone else has seen this yet, but figured
I'd forward it for those interested.
** Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain **
A fourth-century mosaic, found by accident in England, turns out to be one
of the most significant Roman finds of recent years.
http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/654123.asp
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
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[novaroma] Re: Death of Sulla's Mother |
From: |
bcatfd@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:41:27 -0000 |
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--- In novaroma@--------, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@e...>
wrote:
>
> This is the matron of the Gens Cornelia-Prima Cornelia-writing this
> email.
>
> I must report that Lucius Cornelius Sulla's mother passed away
>yesterday Sunday, November 4th at approximately 2:30 pm pacific time.
> Mifa Golenpolsky Woolwine was 55 years old and died in the hospital
>from severe complications of Diabetes. She died peacefully in the
>presence of Sulla/(Robert to her!) and a minister.
On behalf of the Gens Iunia, I extend heartfelt condelences to
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, his family and to the gens Cornelia as a
whole. I offer my personal sympathy to my friend Sulla. No words can
truly help at a time like this but I want you to know my prayers and
thoughts are with you, amice mi.
Vale,
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Senator, Paterfamilias Gens Iunia
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Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain |
From: |
radams36@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:04:44 -0000 |
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Gawne
> To: novaroma@-------- ; SodalitasMilitarium@--------
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM
> Subject: [novaroma] Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain
>
>
> Salvete,
>
> I don't know if anyone else has seen this yet, but figured
> I'd forward it for those interested.
>
> ** Rare Roman mosaic found in Britain **
> A fourth-century mosaic, found by accident in England, turns out
to be one
> of the most significant Roman finds of recent years.
>
> http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/654123.asp
>
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
>
Interesting article, Marine. I particularly liked the reference to
the Roman road now known as the A303. Built to last, eh?
Salve,
Rufus Iulius Palaeologus
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[novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem VI Idus Novembres (November 8th) |
From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:31:01 -0000 |
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PONTIFEX ANTONIVS GRYLLVS GRAECVS OMNIBVS SALVTEM
This is one of the dies comitiales (C), when committees of citizens can vote
on political or criminal matters.
Today, the 'mundus' is opened. The 'mundus' was a vaulted ritual pit,
divided into two parts and with a cover (possibly called 'lapis manalis')
which was removed three times each year: August 24, October 5 and November
8. With the lifting of the lid, which was regarded as the Gate to Hades
('ostium Orci': Festus, 115L), the spirits of the underworld ('manes')
emerged and could roam the streets of the city. But there is also a
reference that the 'mundus' belongs to Ceres ('Cereris qui mundus
apellatur', Festus, 126L). The day was considered 'religiosus' and the
following 'religiones' applied:
- It was not allowed to combat.
- It was not allowed to raise troops.
- It was not allowed to make troops march.
- It was not allowed to raise anchor.
- It was not allowed to marry or procreate.
Nevertheless, comitia and other public activities were allowed.
A complication arises from the fact that Romulus, when founding the city, is
said to have put first-fruits into a pit in the Comitium, together with soil
from the land from which each of his followers came. If the two pits were
the same, then Romulus may have offered the fruits at the 'mundus' to
appease the underworld. But there is also a possibility that there were two
pits, one leading to Hades and the other belonging to Ceres (the latter
being the one where Romulus offered the fruits).
Mensis November is sacred to Diana.
Di vos bene ament
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Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
"Caius Puteus Germanicus" <puteus@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:38:08 +0100 |
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Ave omnes!
I am glad to receive so much approval conc. the item. I agree there is a lot of resistence dealing with the taxes. I must say I do not really understand why. An annual tax of 20-25$ is not the end of the world. Any organization you join today will ask for a little financial compensation. NR has set up an infrastructure for its people, has created websites, newsgroups, contacts with other people feeling the same way. I think that, certainly for those who dream of making NR a 'real' nation with territorial possibilities ('land for NR'), we should consider a low tax for its members, not on a voluntary basis. The opponents have in my opinion just two arguments: 1. tax as a punishment and 2. kicking on numbers.
1. given the small amount of money we're talking about and the considerable freedom we have as Romans in participating in politics and every sort of thing, I think it can rarely be seen as a punishment. I believe that every magistrate of the republic will pay taxes, even when they're doing more than the other cives (from the political point of view). Taxes should not be heavy, nor should they be reprimands against whatever, they should create funds to be able to work correctly. E.g. think of the census that was proposed: what is this going to cost to the individuals who are going to write cards, make phone calls etc. Isn't it more honest to refund these costs? I think so! But we need to have the means to do so!
2.Numbers. Anybody refusing to pay taxes can easily having him or herself adopted by another gens. This will reduce the number of gentes and will make sure that patres and matres are 'active' Romans. You'll be more concerned when it's something you've paid for, no?
Despite my defense of the taxes, I ask all of you: is there another way to make the number of gentes decline?
Vale optime in pace deorum!
Caius Puteus Germanicus
Civis Provinciae Novae Romae Galliae / Germaniae Inferioris
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R: [novaroma] Re: Death of Sulla's Mother |
From: |
"Gaius Quirinus" <gaius_quirinus_caesar@--------> |
Date: |
Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:15:47 +0100 |
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Salve Prima Cornelia,
please, give my condolances to uor Censor and Consularis Lucius Cornelius
Sulla Felix and to his family. His mother will be in my prayers and in my
things.
Vale,
Gaius Quirinus
--- In novaroma@--------, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@e...>
wrote:
>
> This is the matron of the Gens Cornelia-Prima Cornelia-writing this
> email.
>
> I must report that Lucius Cornelius Sulla's mother passed away
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Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
labienus@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:10:59 US/Central |
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Salvete Cai Putee et omnes
> Despite my defense of the taxes, I ask all of you: is there another way to
> make the number of gentes decline?
Yes, there is. Combine a policy that forces gentes to be registered yearly by
patres or matres familias with a policy that requires new gentes to be founded
by cives with at least 6 months in Nova Roma. Each year, those gentes which
consist of only an inactive pater or mater familias will simply disappear.
And, the creation of new gentes will be dramatically slowed as only cives who
really want their own gens despite having formed some bonds with an existing
gens will be allowed to form them.
This system does not require an active census, constitutional amendments, or
taxation. What Censor Equitius proposes is to attach taxation to registration,
which is not necessary.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
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[novaroma] Museum Exhibition Listings Relating to the Classical World |
From: |
"C. Minucius Hadrianus" <shinjikun@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:26:31 -0500 |
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Salvete!
This is a listing of upcoming Museum Exhibitions around the world
relating to the Ancient/Classical World. I found the information in the
calendar section of most recent edition of Minerva Magazine (The
International Review of Ancient Art & Archeology). Many of these events
would offer excellent opportunities for 'in-person' NR get-together. It
turned out to be a bit more serious undertaking than I had originally
thought, but after few hour and some sore fingers later, here it is!
~_^ The listings are in order by Country/City/Region:
United Kingdom
BRIDGEPORT, Dorset
WADDON HILL EXCAVATIONS.
Waddon Hill was occupied for years by the elite Roman Legio II Augusta
before they marched into the Mid-lands to crush the revolt led by
Boudicca. The fort was excavated in 1959-69, and yielded an
extraordinarily rich number of finds, one of the best Roman military
collections in Britain.
BRIDGEPORT MUSEUM (44) 1308 422-116. A new permanent display.
NORWICH, Norfolk
NORWICH CASTLE MUSEUM
Re-opened on 24 July after undergoing an extensive refurbishment.
Visitors are now able to see parts of the castle that have never before
been accessible., including the basement of the keep - where it is
possible to discover how the castle was constructed. A new archeology
gallery celebrates the story of Queen Boudica and displays the treasure
of her Iceni tribe, and a new Egyptian gallery has been designed
especially to show the museum's collection.
NORWICH CASTLE MUSEUM (44) 1603 493-625
United States
ATLANTA, Georgia
MYSTERIES OF THE MUMMIES: THE ART AND ARCHEOLOGY OF DEATH IN ANCIENT
EGYPT
The newly reinstalled galleries of Egyptian and Near Eastern art will
open in October 2001, including the recently acquired collection of
sarcophagi, mummies, and other Egyptian antiquities from the Niagara
Falls Museum.
Permanent Display
THE COLLECTOR'S EYE: MASTERPIECES OF EGYPTIAN ART FROM THE THALASSIC
COLLECTION.
An impressive private collection of Egyptian treasures from Predynastic
to Roman periods. Shown publicly for the first time, the collection
includes sculpture, royal and private portraits, and funerary and cult
objects.
Until January 6, 2001
THE MICHAEL C. CARLOS MUSEUM (1) 404 727-4282 www.emory.edu/carlos
BALTIMORE, Maryland
ANTIOCH: THE LOST ANCIENT CITY
The first major exhibition devoted to this famed Syrian city, featuring
sculpture, silverware and jewelry was well as several notable mosaics.
16 September to December 2001 (final venue)
THE BALTIMORE MUSEUM OF ART (1) 410 396-7100 www.artbma.org
BOSTON, Massachusetts
THE ANCIENT ART OF THE NEAR EAST
Permanent installation tracing the evolution and art of Anatolia, the
Levant, Mesopotamia, Iran and West Central-Asia.
Permanent Display
THE BOSTON MUSEUM OF FINE ARTS (1) 617 267-9300 www.mfa.org
CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts
THE SPHINX AND THE PYRAMIDS: 100 YEARS OF AMERICAN ARCHEOLOGY IN GIZA
Ongoing exhibition
THE HARVARD UNIVERSITY SEMITIC MUSEUM (1) 617-495-4631
CHICAGO, Illinois
CLEOPATRA OF EGYPT: FROM HISTORY TO MYTH
A major exhibition featuring 350 objects from 13 countries including
ancient portraits, sculpture, gems and coins.
18 October 2001 - 3 March 2002 (final venue)
FIELD MUSEUM (1) 312 922-9410 www.fieldmuseum.org
HOUSTON, Texas
IN SEARCH OF ETERNITY: LIFE AND DEATH IN ANCIENT EGYPT
Hundreds of antiquities covering a period of 4000 years, models and
photographs.
Until 31 December 2001
HOUSTON MUSEUM OF NATURAL SCIENCE (1) 713 639-4601
NEWARK, New Jersey
FIRE AND LIGHT: 3000 YEARS OF GLASS ARTISTRY
A reinstallation of the museum's notable collection of Egyptian,
Mesopotamian, Greek and Roman Glass vessels.
Until January 2002
THE NEWARK MUSEUM (1) 973 596-6550
NEW YORK, New York
NEW GREEK AND ROMAN GALLERIES PHASE 2
The grand vaulted gallery, together with six flanking galleries, are
newly reopened for the museum's extraordinary collection of Greek art
from the 6th to 4th centuries BC. 1200 objects are on display, including
a good number of pieces long in storage, in well lit and spacious
accommodations. Phase 1, opened previously, is devoted to early Greek
art from the Cycladic through Archaic periods.
Permanent Display
THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART (1) 212 879-5500 www.metmuseum.org
PRINCETON, New Jersey
EMPIRE OF STONE: ROMAN SCULPTURE FROM THE ART MUSEUM, PRINCETON
UNIVERSITY
48 Works of ancient art from the museum's distinguished collection in an
installation designed by Craig Konyk.
13 October 2001 - 20 January 2002
PLINY'S CUP: ROMAN SILVER IN THE AGE OF AUGUSTUS
Three silver-gilt wine cups with bold relief decoration from the early
1st century AD, one recently acquired by the museum, and the other two
on loan.
13 October 2001 - 20 January 2002
THE ART MUSEUM, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY (1) 609 258-3788
PROVIDENCE, Rhode Island
RETHINKING THE ROMANS: NEW VIEWS OF ANCIENT SCULPTURE
The first permanent installation of the museum's fine Roman sculptures
with an emphasis of the works of art the reflect Roman culture, some of
which were previously though to be mere copies of Greek art from the 6th
to 4th centuries BC.
Permanent Display Opened March 2001
MUSEUM OF ART, RHODE ISLAND SCHOOL OF DESIGN (1) 401 454-6500
www.risd.edu
AUSTRIA
VIENNA
ARTEMIS OF EPHESUS
16 OCTOBER 2001 - 2 APRIL 2002
REOPENING OF THE EGYPTIAN AND NEAR-EASTERN COLLECTION
Following extensive refurbishment, the collection will reopen on 24
September 2001
Permanent Display
KUNSTHISTORISCHES MUSEUM (43) 1 525-240 www.khm.at
CANADA
TORONTO, Ontario
ANCIENT MARINERS OF THE ADRIATIC
An on-going exhibition of Bronze Age, Greek and Roman artifacts
uncovered by an R.O.M. expedition to Palagruza, a Dalmatian site on the
Adriatic Sea. These are accompanied by objects on loan from the
Archeological Museum of Split, Croatia.
Ongoing Display
THE ROYAL ONTARIO MUSEUM (1) 416 586-8000 www.rom.on.ca
EGYPT
CAIRO
THE ROYAL MUMMIES
Eleven pharonic mummies: 8 kings - including Ramses II - and 3 queens
and princesses, have now been placed back on permanent exhibition. The
were removed from display in 1980 when Anwar Sadat thought their
appearance robbed them of their dignity.
Permanent Display
THE EGYPTIAN MUSEUM (202) 575 7035
FRANCE
BIBRACTE, Burgundy
CELTIC MUSEUM
A new museum of the Celtic civilization, includes objects not only from
France, but also Switzerland, Germany, Slovakia, Budapest and the
Mediterranean region. Bibracte is part of a huge fortified Celtic
oppidum, with most of it's fortifications still in place.
Permanent Display
MUSÉE CELTIQUE DE BIBRACTE (33) 389 72 01 41
CHAUMONT, Haute-Marne
GRAECO-ROMAN MYTHOLOGY AND ANTIQUITY
Until 30 December 2001
MUSÉE DE CHAUMONT (33) 325 03 01 99
NIEDERBRONN-LES-BAINS
DE AQUA IN VITA ROMANORUM: WATER IN ROMAN ANTIQUITY
Until 30 December 2001
MAISON DE L'ARCHEOLOGIE DES VOSGES DU NORD (33) 388 80 36 37
PARIS
THE ARCHAIC ALTARS OF GELA
Three archaic Greek polychrome altars found recently in Gela, Sicily,
are exhibited for the first time outside of Italy.
Until 17 December 2001
MUSÉE DE LOURVE (33) 1 40 20 51 41 www.louvre.fr
PARIS
ANCIENT ITALY
Until 1 January 2002
ÉCOLE NATIONALE SUPERIEURE DES BEAUX-ARTS (33) 1 54 681-690
GERMANY
BERLIN
TROY-SCHLIEMANN-ANTIQUITIES
Permanent exhibition of more than 500 Trojan antiquities in Berlin, now
on display after reuniting the museum collections from East and West
Berlin.
Permanent Display
MUSEUM FUR VORUND FRUHGESCHICTE SCHLOSS CHARLOTTENBURG, LANGHAUSBAU (49)
30 3209-1233
BOCHUM, Nordrhien-Westfalen
BUCCHERO: THE CERAMIC OF THE EUTRUSCANS
146 examples of Bucchero ware from the 7th-6th centuries BC, including
several from the museum's collection, 67 from Berlin and 27 from
Dresden.
Until 15 January 2003
KUNSTSAMMLUNGEN RUHR-UNIVERSITAT BOCHUM (49) 234 700 4738
DETMOLD
IN THE SHADOW OF ARMINIUS: PRE-ROMAN IRON AGE AND ROMAN IMPERIAL PERIOD
IN LIPPE
Permanent Display
LIPPISCHES LANDSESMUSUEM (49) 52 319-9250 www.lippesches-landesmuseum.de
FREIBURG, Badden-Wurtten
ROMAN PORTRAITS FROM BERLIN
16 marble portraits from the Antikensammlung, Berlin, on loan to
Freiburg for three years.
Ongoing Display
ARCHAEOLOGISCHE SAMMLUNG DER UNIVERSITAT (49) 761 203-3072
TRIER, Rhienland-Pfalz
BATHHOUSE PLEASURES AND ENJOYMENT OF ART BY ROMANS IN THE BARABA BATHS:
THE MARBLE SCULPTURES FROM TRIER'S LARGEST HOT SPRINGS SITE
Ongoing Display
RHEINISHCES LANDESMUSUEM TRIER (49) 651 97-740
GREECE
ATHENS
OPENING OF THE BENAKI MUSEUM
After several years of reconstruction and elaborate refurbishment the
museum has reopened, adding to its new vitrines, hundreds of objects
long in storage, including many ancient treasures, as well as recent
acquisitions.
Permanent Display
BENAKI MUSEUM (30) 1 36 12694
ATHENS
THE CITY BENEATH THE CITY
500 marbles, bronzes, vases and other objects from the 17th century BC
to the 8th century AD excavated by the State Archeological Service
during the construction of the underground Metropolitan Railway of
Athens.
Until December 2001
THE MUSEUM OF CYCLADIC ART (30) 172 28321
ATHENS
THE NIKE TEMPLE FRIEZES
The east and west friezes, and some of the south and west friezes, have
been removed from the temple due to the ever-present air pollution and
are now installed at eye-level in the museum.
Permanent Display
THE ACROPOLIS MUSEUM (30) 1 923-8724
IRELAND
DUBLIN
ANCIENT EGYPT
A recently opened permanent display of Egyptian antiquities drawn from
the museum's own collections.
Permanent Display
NATIONAL MUSEUM OF IRELAND (353) 61 312-833
ITALY
BOLOGNA
AEMILOA ROMANA
Roman Culture in Aemilia from the 3rd century BC to the age of
Constantine. This exhibition presents the results of excavations made in
the last 30 years. More than 500 objects document everyday life in the
region.
Permanent Display
PINOTECA NAZIONALE (39) 051 233-849
CAMERINO, Macerata
MUSEO CIVICO ARCHEOLOGICO GIROLAMO DI GIOVANNI - CONVENTO DI SAN
BENEDETTO
The archeological museum has moved to new premises and was re-opened
last June with an interesting iconographic exhibition centered on the
relationship between the Celts and the Romans: "Victories over the
Celts". The permanent collection includes Greek and Roman Objects.
Ongoing Installation
MUSEO CIVICO ARCHEOLOGICO GIROLAMO DI GIOVANNI (39) 0737 402-310
COMMACHIO
THE MUSEO DELLA NAVE ROMANA
Inaugurated last December to house a 1st Century BC ship which sank in a
nearby lagoon. The ship wand the goods carries were perfectly preserved,
having been covered by 5 meters of sand and mud for 2000 years.
Ongoing Exhibition
THE MUSEO DELLA NAVE ROMANA (39) 053 331-0185
MONTAGNANA, Padoua
MUSEO CIVICO E ARCHEOLOGICO
The museum, created in 1980 following the discovery of the Roman
necropolis of the nearby Gens Vassidia, has now been reorganized, and
the objects on view range from the Bronze Age to the Middle Ages.
Ongoing Exhibition
MUSEO CIVICO E ARCHEOLOGICO (39) 042 980-4128
NAPLES
MUSEO ARCHEOLOGICO NAZIONALE
The section containing erotica from Pompeii and and Herculaneum has been
re-opened to the public.
Permanent Display
TREASURES FROM THE BORGIA COLLECTION
This collection, which includes Egyptian, Etruscan, Greek and Roman
antiquities is now on display at the location where it was intended to
be displayed in the 19th century.
MUSEO ARCHEOLOGICO NAZIONALE (39) 081 544-1494
ROME
BLOOD AND SAND IN THE COLOSSEUM
The Coliseum becomes a museum itself: the venue for an exhibition about
its own architecture and the spectacles it beheld, as well as
information about other amphitheaters in the Roman world. Mosaics,
sculptures, and above all the collection of the arms and armors from the
Museo Archeologico in Naples document the everyday life of gladiators.
Until 7 January 2002.
THE COLISEUM
ROME
CAPITOLINE MUSEUMS
The Tabularium and Capitoline Museums have been reopened, incorporating
recently excavated remains of the temples of Viovius and Jupiter into
the new complex.
Permanent Display
CAPITOLINE MUSUEMS (39) 06 3974-9907
ROME
NEW DISCOVERIES FROM THE ROMAN FORUMS
A special exhibition illustrates the discoveries recently made at the
forums of Augustus, Caesar and Trajan.
Permanent Exhibition
FORO TRAJANO CENTRO PER I VISITATORI
ROME
TOMB OF CECILIA METELLA, CASTRUM CAETANI AND VILLA DEI QUINTILLI
Now open to visitors after having been completely restored. They form
part of an archeological park which also includes the first section of
the ancient Appian Way and all its monuments. A small museum is inside
the the tomb of Cecillia Metella. The Villa was the largest private
villa outside the capital. It belonged to the two Quintilli brothers,
both Senators, who were executed in AD 182 by Empower Commodus, who took
over their villa and made it an Imperia property.
TOMB OF CECILIA METELLA, CASTRUM CAETANI AND VILLA DEI QUINTILLI (39)
06-718-2273
JAPAN
NAGOYA
ART OF THE ANCIENT MEDITERRANEAN WORLD
An extensive selection of antiquities from the Museum of Fine Arts,
Boston.
Until March 2002
NAGOYA /BOSTON MUSEUM OF FINE ARTS
NETHERLANDS
LEIDEN
NEW EXHIBITIONS
After a five-year program of extensive refurbishment, the Rijksmuseum
van Oudheden in May revealed its new exhibits of renowned national
collections from ancient Egypt, the Near East, and the Classical World.
Permanent Exhibition
RIJKSMUSEUM VAN OUDHEDEN (31) 71 516-31 63
SWITZERLAND
DELEMONT, Jura
FROM JULIUS CAESARS CAMP: 150 YEARS OF ARCHEOLOGY IN JURA
Ongoing Special Exhibition
MUSEE JURASSIEN D'ART ET D'HISTORIE (41) 32 422-8077
I hope these are usefull!
Valete,
C. Minucius Hadrianus
Legatus of Massachusetts
Nova Britannia Provincia
ICQ# 28924742
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." - Vegetius
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Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
"Lucius Maximus Serranus" <luciusmaximusserranus@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:47:07 +0100 |
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Salvete T. Labiene Fortunate et omnes,
You talk about a policy that requires new gentes to be founded by cives with at least 6 months in Nova Roma.
Do you mean that those 6 months experienced cives would change their name to create their own gens and be paterfamilias of it ? If so, isn't there a problem, consequence of this change ?
I mean, let's say you join Nova Roma. You first have a nomen from an existing gens. With time being you meet people, and acheive things.. your name is becoming famous, maybe not in the whole respublica but at least in your cercle of knowings.
Roman names are already something which is a bit hard to get use of for new citizens. What if those names can changed ?
Valete,
Lucius Maximus Serranus.
----- Original Message -----
From: labienus@--------
To: novaroma@--------
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae
Salvete Cai Putee et omnes
> Despite my defense of the taxes, I ask all of you: is there another way to
> make the number of gentes decline?
Yes, there is. Combine a policy that forces gentes to be registered yearly by
patres or matres familias with a policy that requires new gentes to be founded
by cives with at least 6 months in Nova Roma. Each year, those gentes which
consist of only an inactive pater or mater familias will simply disappear.
And, the creation of new gentes will be dramatically slowed as only cives who
really want their own gens despite having formed some bonds with an existing
gens will be allowed to form them.
This system does not require an active census, constitutional amendments, or
taxation. What Censor Equitius proposes is to attach taxation to registration,
which is not necessary.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
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Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
"Lucius Maximus Serranus" <luciusmaximusserranus@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:36:45 +0100 |
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Salve Cai,
I beleive reducing the number of gentes is interesting since I'm waiting for my paterfamilas to send me acceiptance. As far as I experience it, I think a close implication and relation with other cives within the gens is crucial for any new citizen.
I just didn't get at first what was your idea concerning those taxes and thought they were only meant to be a sort of warning or punishment against people who didn't provide the responsibilities they were engaged in. I see you didn't think about taxes this way but in a more general way and I feel now more comfortable with it. As you said, any kind of organization which needs money has to get it somewhere and I think your solution could be interesting.
There might be two different issues : taxes and reduction of the number of gentes, even if one could solve the other, can be considered as two different concepts, because reduction of the number of gentes can be solved without taxes, and because Nova Roma might need money not only from patresfamilias.
I think about a maximum number of gentes, about a way to statisticly monitor the number of cives in a gens but I always reach the same question :
Since a citizen keeps his nomen... and has got to choose his gens or create his own before he really knows about these problems and understand about the reason of theses taxes, the responsibility of being paterfamilias has to be taken at first and before the understanding of all of it.
My point is I don't have any solution. I hope my thoughts about it could give you some ideas or raise problems you would thought differently about. It's a pleasure speaking to you and reading your messages. I hope those issues will soon find a solution.
I think your solution of taxing patresfamilias is good, except for the fact that those patresfamilias are new citizens and they might not understand why they have to pay something as they're not even in Nova Roma yet...
If the importance of gens is clearly stated and those taxes are understood without discouraging people who are just about to join Nova Roma, then I think it's a pretty good solution for reducing the number of gentes and therefore to give them more importance.
Vale,
Lucius Maximus Serranus
----- Original Message -----
From: Caius Puteus Germanicus
To: novaroma@--------
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae
Ave omnes!
I am glad to receive so much approval conc. the item. I agree there is a lot of resistence dealing with the taxes. I must say I do not really understand why. An annual tax of 20-25$ is not the end of the world. Any organization you join today will ask for a little financial compensation. NR has set up an infrastructure for its people, has created websites, newsgroups, contacts with other people feeling the same way. I think that, certainly for those who dream of making NR a 'real' nation with territorial possibilities ('land for NR'), we should consider a low tax for its members, not on a voluntary basis. The opponents have in my opinion just two arguments: 1. tax as a punishment and 2. kicking on numbers.
1. given the small amount of money we're talking about and the considerable freedom we have as Romans in participating in politics and every sort of thing, I think it can rarely be seen as a punishment. I believe that every magistrate of the republic will pay taxes, even when they're doing more than the other cives (from the political point of view). Taxes should not be heavy, nor should they be reprimands against whatever, they should create funds to be able to work correctly. E.g. think of the census that was proposed: what is this going to cost to the individuals who are going to write cards, make phone calls etc. Isn't it more honest to refund these costs? I think so! But we need to have the means to do so!
2.Numbers. Anybody refusing to pay taxes can easily having him or herself adopted by another gens. This will reduce the number of gentes and will make sure that patres and matres are 'active' Romans. You'll be more concerned when it's something you've paid for, no?
Despite my defense of the taxes, I ask all of you: is there another way to make the number of gentes decline?
Vale optime in pace deorum!
Caius Puteus Germanicus
Civis Provinciae Novae Romae Galliae / Germaniae Inferioris
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Subject: |
[novaroma] Age Exemptions for Candidates for Office |
From: |
trog99@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:42:11 -0000 |
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Salvete Consuls, Tribunus Plebis, Senators, Praetores:
I am not sure to whom I should direct this question, but, I had a
recent email exchange with a civie who had a question or two of me
regarding the elections for magistrates. Although this individual is
over 21, the subject came up of underage candidates, and the following
consideration:
I believe last year we had an incident where proper protocol was not
followed: a candidate declared himself and ran for office
successfully without *first* gaining from the Senate, an exemption
from the age requirement, and a formal 'go ahead' to run for office.
As far as I can see, since there has been no amending legislation to
the contrary, the burden is still on the candidate to request such
dispensation from the Senate prior to running for office, and that it
does not matter if you are electorially victorious, you are,
essentially, an illegal candidate.
Is there a magistrate who could add to this, and perhaps inform the
populace about a deadline for filing for such an age exemption for
this year, should there be young people out there interested?
Thanks in advance et Bene Valete,
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
Propraetrix Canada Orientalis
Nova Roma
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Re: [novaroma] Age Exemptions for Candidates for Office |
From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:47:15 -0600 (CST) |
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Salve,
> Is there a magistrate who could add to this, and perhaps inform the
> populace about a deadline for filing for such an age exemption for
> this year, should there be young people out there interested?
The Senate will soon vote on two underage applicants; if anyone else
would like to run for office, they should apply immediately (preferably
today!).
Vale, O.
--
M. Octavius Germanicus
Propraetor, Lacus Magni
Curator Araneum et Senator
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Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Feminae Magnae: Cornellia, mother of the Gracchi (long) |
From: |
trog99@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:54:49 -0000 |
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--- Salve Julilla Sempronia:
I meant to tell you previous to this how much I enjoyed your
enlightening and well-researched article on Matrona Cornelia Gracchi.
Needless to say, she is highly esteemed in gens Cornelia and a
wonderful rolemodel for virtuous behaviour, in spite of
having alot of bad times in her life.....everytime I read up on her, I
think, I would love to be more like her.
Thanks again et vale,
Pompeia Cornelia
In novaroma@--------, "Julilla Sempronia Magna" <julilla@l...> wrote:
> > Salvete...
> > I've a few questions but first allow me to introduce myself. I'm
> another 'new,happy and proud' citizen of NovaRoma.My main interests
> are Religio (for my husband is a Pagan. No disrespect meant with the
> term.) and Roman history as a devoted student!
>
> > I'm 28 years old ,a graduate of the Faculty of Fine Arts,working
> as an interior designer in spite of being an Artist :)
>
> > Here are my questions...Were there 'extraordinary' women in the
> history of Rome? In politics the ones I know are mostly evil like
> Messalina and Agrippina. Were there any virtuous and famous ones who
> could represent the ideal model of Roman women?
>
> <snipped>
>
> > Valete
> > Minervina Sentia Hypatia
>
> Ave and welcome, Minervina Sentia Hypatia!
>
> Certainly one of the most remarkable women of any period in Roman
> history was Cornelia, mother of Tiberius and Gaius. She was born in
> the late Republic, a time when the Roman matrona had evolved from
the
> politically powerful Hellenistic princesses, expanding cultural
> opportunities for women. As a daughter of a hero, wife of an
> aristocrat, mother of the champions of the Roman people, Cornelia
was
> admired for her virtue, fidelity, and especially for her
intelligence.
>
> She moved in circles that were open only to the most respected women
> in Rome. It is clear, however, that, while her family connections
> were strong, her own abilities won the admiration and confidence of
> important Romans. She was sought out for advice and conversation
long
> after the death of her husband and sons and later writers portrayed
> her as the ideal Roman matron.
>
> Cornelia was born the younger daughter of Publius Scipio Africanus,
> renowned for defeating Hannibal, and his wife Aemilia in the late
> 190s BCE. She married the consul Tiberius Sempornius Gracchus in the
> time period between 175 - 165 BCE. Plutarch, a Greek historian of
the
> first century CE, stated that the marriage was one of mutual love
> derived from the union of two of the most virtuous individuals in
> Rome. However, Polybius, a Greek historian of the second century
BCE,
> states the betrothal of Cornelia to the much older Tiberius Gracchus
> occurred after her father's death and was arranged by close
relatives.
>
> With him she bore twelve children, yet only three lived to
adulthood,
> Sempronia, Tiberius, and Gaius. Tiberius was most likely born in 163
> BCE, with Gaius following nine years later. Sempronia was probably
> older than both of her brothers as she was already the wife of
Scipio
> Aemilianus when the seventeen year old Tiberius was serving under
her
> husband's command in Africa. Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus died in
154-
> 153 BCE, leaving Cornelia to raise her daughter and two sons on her
> own, with Tiberius being around the age of nine and Gaius being an
> infant. She supervised their education and filled them with the
> culture and refinement that she herself had absorbed in her parent's
> home.
>
> Soon after the death of her husband, the Egyptian monarch Ptolemy
> VIII Physcon proposed to her and she outright refused him to remain
> faithful to the memory of her husband. She was praised for her
> devotion to her household and the education of her children. Cicero
> details how carefully she sought out the finest Greek tutors, such
as
> the famous rhetorician Diophanes of Mytilene and the Stoic Blossius
> of Cumae. He further states that her children were nourished more by
> her conversation than her breast. At a time when other women of her
> age were displaying their various ornamentation, Cornelia declared
> that her sons were her most precious jewels.
>
> It would be difficult to separate Tiberius' short and dramatic
> political career entirely from his mother's influence. From
> childhood, she had groomed him for success, and it is doubtful
> Tiberius considered her any less a political ally and advisor. Her
> reputation was able to survive rumors that she assisted her daughter
> in the murder of Scipio Aemilianus because he opposed the
legislation
> of Tiberius. Following the assassination that cut short Tiberius'
> promising career, Cornelia did not let her son's memory fade away.
> She was a major factor in fashioning his subsequent image as a
martyr
> for the popular cause, which was gaining momentum in Rome, largely
> because of Tiberius' land reform program.
>
> Her influence on her younger son Gaius, who, as tribune in 123 BCE,
> lionized his brother's efforts and became leader of the popular
> movement, must have been just as strong. In one of her letters she
> begs Gaius not to employ the same methods of radical reform as did
> his brother. When he too died violently in 121 BCE, Cornelia gloried
> in the memory of her two sons and continued to be admired for her
> political acumen and intelligence. She was as much a politician as
> any woman could be in a society that did not allow the formal
> participation of women in politics.
>
> Plutarch gives the fullest account of Cornelia's life. He describes
> how Cornelia carried on her life after the death of her two sons,
> Tiberius and Gaius:
>
> ...Cornelia is reported to have borne all her misfortunes in a
> noble and magnanimous spirit, and to have said of the sacred places
> where her sons had been slain that they were tombs worthy of the
dead
> which occupied them. She resided on the promontory called Misenum
and
> made no change in her customary way of living. She had many friends,
> and kept a good table that she might show hospitality, for she
always
> had Greeks and other literary men about her, and all the reigning
> kings interchanged gifts with her.
>
> She was indeed very agreeable to her visitors and associates when
she
> discoursed to them about the life and habits of her father [Scipio}
> Africanus, but most admirable when she spoke of her sons without
> grief or tears, and narrated their achievements and their fate to
all
> inquirers as if she were speaking of men of the early days of Rome.
>
> Some were therefore led to think that old age or the greatness of
her
> sorrows had impaired her mind and made her insensible to her
> misfortunes, whereas, really, such person themselves were insensible
> how much help in banishment of grief mankind derives from a noble
> nature and from honorable birth and rearing....
>
> ---------
>
> Text verbatim from the Web site of my great amica and soror (in
> spirit) Cornellia Cornelius, http://cornellia.fws1.com/cornelia.htm.
> I highly recommend it.
>
> ---
> cura et valeas,
>
> @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
> |||| http://julilla.tripod.com/
> Daily Life in Ancient Rome
> @____@ ju--------a@--------
> ||||
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[novaroma] Re: Death of Sulla's Mother |
From: |
bcatfd@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 21:00:21 -0000 |
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Replying to my own message. The word in the first sentence below is
meant to read as "condolences," not condelences. My apologies.
D. Iunius Palladius
> On behalf of the Gens Iunia, I extend heartfelt condelences to
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, his family and to the gens Cornelia as
>a whole. I offer my personal sympathy to my friend Sulla. No words
>can truly help at a time like this but I want you to know my prayers
>and thoughts are with you, amice mi.
>
> Vale,
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
> Senator, Paterfamilias Gens Iunia
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Re: [novaroma] Re: nota patres et matres familiae |
From: |
labienus@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:01:28 US/Central |
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Salvete L Maxime et alii
> Do you mean that those 6 months experienced cives would change their name to
> create their own gens and be paterfamilias of it ?
Yes, they would change their nomen gentilis.
> If so, isn't there a problem, consequence of this change ?
There's a trade-off on the part of the person making the change. I don't see
any particular problem beyond that, though.
> I mean, let's say you join Nova Roma. You first have a nomen from an existing
> gens. With time being you meet people, and acheive things.. your name is
> becoming famous, maybe not in the whole respublica but at least in your
> cercle of knowings.
>
> Roman names are already something which is a bit hard to get use of for new
> citizens. What if those names can changed ?
They can already be changed. We have several cives who have successfully
changed their nomen gentilis (and therefore their gens) for various reasons.
These cives felt that the change was worth the temporary loss of
recognizability. The idea, after all, is to reduce the number of gentes that
are formed either hastily or frivolously.
Also, note that currently in Nova Roma gentes are distinguished from each other
by both nomen and cognomen. There would be nothing to stop T Tidlipus from
founding Gens Tidlipa Secunda and retaining the essence of his name. If he
decided to found a gens with a different nomen then he would have to be willing
to accept that it would take a while for people to get used to his new
appellation.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
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Re: [novaroma] Age Exemptions for Candidates for Office |
From: |
labienus@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:12:11 US/Central |
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Salvete Pompeia Cornelia omnesque
> I believe last year we had an incident where proper protocol was not
> followed: a candidate declared himself and ran for office
> successfully without *first* gaining from the Senate, an exemption
> from the age requirement, and a formal 'go ahead' to run for office.
The protocol hadn't been established at that time, and there was legitimate
debate upon when under-age candidates ought to present themselves to the Senate
in order to obtain its approval. The law was entirely silent on the point.
> As far as I can see, since there has been no amending legislation to
> the contrary, the burden is still on the candidate to request such
> dispensation from the Senate prior to running for office, and that it
> does not matter if you are electorially victorious, you are,
> essentially, an illegal candidate.
The Lex Vedia de Magistratum Aetate amended the law to require under-age
candidates to request the Senate's dispensation prior to standing for
election. So there was a change, though it was made to create the situation
you describe above; that is, it is illegal to stand for office as an under-age
candidate without first receiving the Senate's approval.
> Is there a magistrate who could add to this, and perhaps inform the
> populace about a deadline for filing for such an age exemption for
> this year, should there be young people out there interested?
As M Octavius has pointed out, anyone wishing to stand for election as an under-
age candidate should present his or her petition to the Senate as soon as
possible.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
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[novaroma] Re: Age Exemptions for Candidates for Office |
From: |
trog99@-------- |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 21:48:45 -0000 |
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---Salvete Senators Fortunatus et Octavius:
Thanks for the clarification.
Pompeia
In novaroma@--------, labienus@t... wrote:
> Salvete Pompeia Cornelia omnesque
>
> > I believe last year we had an incident where proper protocol was
not
> > followed: a candidate declared himself and ran for office
> > successfully without *first* gaining from the Senate, an exemption
> > from the age requirement, and a formal 'go ahead' to run for
office.
>
> The protocol hadn't been established at that time, and there was
legitimate
> debate upon when under-age candidates ought to present themselves to
the Senate
> in order to obtain its approval. The law was entirely silent on the
point.
>
> > As far as I can see, since there has been no amending legislation
to
> > the contrary, the burden is still on the candidate to request such
> > dispensation from the Senate prior to running for office, and that
it
> > does not matter if you are electorially victorious, you are,
> > essentially, an illegal candidate.
>
> The Lex Vedia de Magistratum Aetate amended the law to require
under-age
> candidates to request the Senate's dispensation prior to standing
for
> election. So there was a change, though it was made to create the
situation
> you describe above; that is, it is illegal to stand for office as an
under-age
> candidate without first receiving the Senate's approval.
>
> > Is there a magistrate who could add to this, and perhaps inform
the
> > populace about a deadline for filing for such an age exemption for
> > this year, should there be young people out there interested?
>
> As M Octavius has pointed out, anyone wishing to stand for election
as an under-
> age candidate should present his or her petition to the Senate as
soon as
> possible.
>
> Valete
> T Labienus Fortunatus
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Subject: |
[novaroma] Civil Law Intro |
From: |
"Pompeia Cornelia Strabo" <scriba_forum@--------> |
Date: |
Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:26:38 +0000 |
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Salvete Honoured Praetores:
Regarding your Intro to Civil Law and subsequent replies:
I am sorry my comments were not of any constructive use to you. I assumed
you were looking for comments, and my post regarding the punishments, and
some stuff which I felt might be beneficially addressed in a civil law code
were meant in good faith, and to be helpful. I am addressing you
collectively and from the vantage of your magisterial capacities as
praetores, and not personally.
My political comments to a public list are meant to be constructive, even
though they are not always useful. I am also sometimes terse, but
objective.
I fully admit that I am no lawyer and that I am not as learned as either of
you with respect to Roman Law. I can only evaluate the results of some
events which transpired here in NR last year, which caused a good deal of
awkwardness and grief in the absence of any laws by which these matters
could be more smoothly litigated.
Perhaps I shall feel better about your list of punishments when I see the
corresponding tortes to which they shall apply. Indeed, when one sees a
list of punishments, they all look extreme (especially banishment) until the
actual legal deviations are listed.
Perhaps it is just my lack of understanding all around, but I just found it
unusual, I guess, to present punishments in the absence of crimes. It's an
unusual opening statement...
And if the two of you are indeed planning to soon publish a civil law code,
you have my sincere and heartfelt apologies and civie and governor for
assuming otherwise, and posting to that effect.
Q. Fabi, you had indicated to me that I was the only one to say anything
negative about the Praetoral law intro; I have been reviewing the archives,
trying to recap on a few things, and sir, with respect, I was the "only one"
to render any kind of comment. Perhaps folks were tied up with the Census
debate/questions about the CC lex amendments, and didn't take the time to
respond.
Perhaps there will be more debate when further material is presented by
yourself and Praetor Dio.
I hope this clarifies my position on a couple of email exchanges on this
topic.
Bene valete,
Pompeia Cornelia
Propraetrix Canada Orientalis
Nova Roma
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Welcome Lucii Maxime Serrano
Which macronation are you citizen of ?
Are you part of Gallia Borealis or Gallia Australis ?
Bene Vale
Ianus Querius Armoricus Lutecio
Propraetor Galliae
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From: Lucius Maximus Serranus <luciusmaximusserranus@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [novaroma] New citizen
> Salvete Novoromani,
>
> As you can see my Latin (and also my English) is not perfect.. but I'm
working hard on it. I asked for citizenship and my pater gens acceptance two
days ago and I can't wait to join Nova Roma. I'd like to work with people
interested in Provincia Gallia. I'm especially interested in politics and
I'd be glad to help Nova Roma and participate in its development.
>
> I'm actually a bit lost at the moment, since Nova Roma is a new concept
for me. The website is great, really.. and I had opportunities to speak with
several Novoromani who helped me a bit.
>
> I'm just really excited about what you've done. It looks great and I
really look forward to be able to give you a hand on that.
>
> Valete,
>
> Lucius Maximus Serranus
>
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Re: [novaroma] Museum Exhibition Listings Relating to the Classical World |
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AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@--------> |
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Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:05:27 -0800 (PST) |
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Salve,
Thank you for this list. I wish the United States was
included in this. I recently organized a Museum tour
right here in southern California which included The
Holy Land and The Etruscans exhibits and it was a
great way for us local Romans to get together. Let me
know there if a way to access a list like this for the
U.S.
Vale,
Antonia Cornelia Octavia
Scriba ad Proconsul de California
--- "C. Minucius Hadrianus" <shinjikun@-------->
wrote:
> Salvete!
>
> This is a listing of upcoming Museum Exhibitions
> around the world
> relating to the Ancient/Classical World. I found the
> information in the
> calendar section of most recent edition of Minerva
> Magazine (The
> International Review of Ancient Art & Archeology).
> Many of these events
> would offer excellent opportunities for 'in-person'
> NR get-together. It
> turned out to be a bit more serious undertaking than
> I had originally
> thought, but after few hour and some sore fingers
> later, here it is!
> ~_^ The listings are in order by
> Country/City/Region:
>
> United Kingdom
>
> BRIDGEPORT, Dorset
> WADDON HILL EXCAVATIONS.
> Waddon Hill was occupied for years by the elite
> Roman Legio II Augusta
> before they marched into the Mid-lands to crush the
> revolt led by
> Boudicca. The fort was excavated in 1959-69, and
> yielded an
> extraordinarily rich number of finds, one of the
> best Roman military
> collections in Britain.
> BRIDGEPORT MUSEUM (44) 1308 422-116. A new permanent
> display.
>
> NORWICH, Norfolk
> NORWICH CASTLE MUSEUM
> Re-opened on 24 July after undergoing an extensive
> refurbishment.
> Visitors are now able to see parts of the castle
> that have never before
> been accessible., including the basement of the keep
> - where it is
> possible to discover how the castle was constructed.
> A new archeology
> gallery celebrates the story of Queen Boudica and
> displays the treasure
> of her Iceni tribe, and a new Egyptian gallery has
> been designed
> especially to show the museum's collection.
> NORWICH CASTLE MUSEUM (44) 1603 493-625
>
> United States
>
> ATLANTA, Georgia
> MYSTERIES OF THE MUMMIES: THE ART AND ARCHEOLOGY OF
> DEATH IN ANCIENT
> EGYPT
> The newly reinstalled galleries of Egyptian and Near
> Eastern art will
> open in October 2001, including the recently
> acquired collection of
> sarcophagi, mummies, and other Egyptian antiquities
> from the Niagara
> Falls Museum.
> Permanent Display
> THE COLLECTOR'S EYE: MASTERPIECES OF EGYPTIAN ART
> FROM THE THALASSIC
> COLLECTION.
> An impressive private collection of Egyptian
> treasures from Predynastic
> to Roman periods. Shown publicly for the first time,
> the collection
> includes sculpture, royal and private portraits, and
> funerary and cult
> objects.
> Until January 6, 2001
> THE MICHAEL C. CARLOS MUSEUM (1) 404 727-4282
> www.emory.edu/carlos
>
> BALTIMORE, Maryland
> ANTIOCH: THE LOST ANCIENT CITY
> The first major exhibition devoted to this famed
> Syrian city, featuring
> sculpture, silverware and jewelry was well as
> several notable mosaics.
> 16 September to December 2001 (final venue)
> THE BALTIMORE MUSEUM OF ART (1) 410 396-7100
> www.artbma.org
>
> BOSTON, Massachusetts
> THE ANCIENT ART OF THE NEAR EAST
> Permanent installation tracing the evolution and art
> of Anatolia, the
> Levant, Mesopotamia, Iran and West Central-Asia.
> Permanent Display
> THE BOSTON MUSEUM OF FINE ARTS (1) 617 267-9300
> www.mfa.org
>
> CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts
> THE SPHINX AND THE PYRAMIDS: 100 YEARS OF AMERICAN
> ARCHEOLOGY IN GIZA
> Ongoing exhibition
> THE HARVARD UNIVERSITY SEMITIC MUSEUM (1)
> 617-495-4631
>
> CHICAGO, Illinois
> CLEOPATRA OF EGYPT: FROM HISTORY TO MYTH
> A major exhibition featuring 350 objects from 13
> countries including
> ancient portraits, sculpture, gems and coins.
> 18 October 2001 - 3 March 2002 (final venue)
> FIELD MUSEUM (1) 312 922-9410 www.fieldmuseum.org
>
> HOUSTON, Texas
> IN SEARCH OF ETERNITY: LIFE AND DEATH IN ANCIENT
> EGYPT
> Hundreds of antiquities covering a period of 4000
> years, models and
> photographs.
> Until 31 December 2001
> HOUSTON MUSEUM OF NATURAL SCIENCE (1) 713 639-4601
>
> NEWARK, New Jersey
> FIRE AND LIGHT: 3000 YEARS OF GLASS ARTISTRY
> A reinstallation of the museum's notable collection
> of Egyptian,
> Mesopotamian, Greek and Roman Glass vessels.
> Until January 2002
> THE NEWARK MUSEUM (1) 973 596-6550
>
> NEW YORK, New York
> NEW GREEK AND ROMAN GALLERIES PHASE 2
> The grand vaulted gallery, together with six
> flanking galleries, are
> newly reopened for the museum's extraordinary
> collection of Greek art
> from the 6th to 4th centuries BC. 1200 objects are
> on display, including
> a good number of pieces long in storage, in well lit
> and spacious
> accommodations. Phase 1, opened previously, is
> devoted to early Greek
> art from the Cycladic through Archaic periods.
> Permanent Display
> THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART (1) 212 879-5500
> www.metmuseum.org
>
> PRINCETON, New Jersey
> EMPIRE OF STONE: ROMAN SCULPTURE FROM THE ART
> MUSEUM, PRINCETON
> UNIVERSITY
> 48 Works of ancient art from the museum's
> distinguished collection in an
> installation designed by Craig Konyk.
> 13 October 2001 - 20 January 2002
> PLINY'S CUP: ROMAN SILVER IN THE AGE OF AUGUSTUS
> Three silver-gilt wine cups with bold relief
> decoration from the early
> 1st century AD, one recently acquired by the museum,
> and the other two
> on loan.
> 13 October 2001 - 20 January 2002
> THE ART MUSEUM, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY (1) 609
> 258-3788
>
> PROVIDENCE, Rhode Island
> RETHINKING THE ROMANS: NEW VIEWS OF ANCIENT
> SCULPTURE
> The first permanent installation of the museum's
> fine Roman sculptures
> with an emphasis of the works of art the reflect
> Roman culture, some of
> which were previously though to be mere copies of
> Greek art from the 6th
> to 4th centuries BC.
> Permanent Display Opened March 2001
> MUSEUM OF ART, RHODE ISLAND SCHOOL OF DESIGN (1) 401
> 454-6500
> www.risd.edu
>
> AUSTRIA
>
> VIENNA
> ARTEMIS OF EPHESUS
> 16 OCTOBER 2001 - 2 APRIL 2002
> REOPENING OF THE EGYPTIAN AND NEAR-EASTERN
> COLLECTION
> Following extensive refurbishment, the collection
> will reopen on 24
> September 2001
> Permanent Display
> KUNSTHISTORISCHES MUSEUM (43) 1 525-240 www.khm.at
>
> CANADA
>
> TORONTO, Ontario
> ANCIENT MARINERS OF THE ADRIATIC
> An on-going exhibition of Bronze Age, Greek and
> Roman artifacts
> uncovered by an R.O.M. expedition to Palagruza, a
> Dalmatian
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