Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@-------->
Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:23:50 -0800 (PST)

Ave,
In response to the comments of Gnaeus Salix Astur
I have to say this:
The 2/3 majority rule is used in the United
States first off to answer your question. Secondly
how is that 2/3 majority rule discriminate? The
Congess of the United States uses that rule for its
voting procedures. No Americans really complain about
being discriminated against via the 2/3 rule. I will
not dispute that 50%+1 shows a majority. However its
a pathetic majority and if you have a vote of 51-49 it
shows that a piece of legislation just barely was
passed. However when you create a requirement for a
larger gap between Yes and No votes then it truly
shows that a large majority of the population are in
favor of that item being voted upon. A 2/3 rule also
means that those who caft the legislation etc. are
going to need to craft it in such a way that it
represents the interests of those across the board not
just a majority who maybe in power. Say you have
something like Northern Ireland where there's a
Protestant majority and a Catholic minority and lets
change the proportions of Protestants to being 55% of
the population and Catholics 45% of the populous.
There is no one clear cut group with a 2/3 majority.
So legiislation would have to be created that would
represent the interests of the Catholics just as much
as the Protestants to obtain that 2/3 majority in a
vote. It doesn't discriminate but prevents a
dictatorship under the guise of a democratic
institution.
vale,
Quintus Cornelius Caesar

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@-------->
Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:34:25 -0800 (PST)

Salvete Quirites; et salve, Quinte Corneli.

--- Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@--------> wrote:
> Ave,
> In response to the comments of Gnaeus Salix Astur
> I have to say this:
> The 2/3 majority rule is used in the United
> States first off to answer your question. Secondly
> how is that 2/3 majority rule discriminate? The
> Congess of the United States uses that rule for its
> voting procedures. No Americans really complain about
> being discriminated against via the 2/3 rule. I will
> not dispute that 50%+1 shows a majority. However its
> a pathetic majority and if you have a vote of 51-49 it
> shows that a piece of legislation just barely was
> passed. However when you create a requirement for a
> larger gap between Yes and No votes then it truly
> shows that a large majority of the population are in
> favor of that item being voted upon. A 2/3 rule also
> means that those who caft the legislation etc. are
> going to need to craft it in such a way that it
> represents the interests of those across the board not
> just a majority who maybe in power. Say you have
> something like Northern Ireland where there's a
> Protestant majority and a Catholic minority and lets
> change the proportions of Protestants to being 55% of
> the population and Catholics 45% of the populous.
> There is no one clear cut group with a 2/3 majority.
> So legiislation would have to be created that would
> represent the interests of the Catholics just as much
> as the Protestants to obtain that 2/3 majority in a
> vote. It doesn't discriminate but prevents a
> dictatorship under the guise of a democratic
> institution.
> vale,
> Quintus Cornelius Caesar

I didn't know that the U.S. Congress uses such a majority. I offer my
apologies if I implied it did.

However, that does not make a 2/3 majority any better, in my humble
opinion. I am sure that the U.S. Congress has its good reasons for
using it, but none of the reasons you and others have put forward are
sufficient to change my mind. For me, a 51% majority is a legitimate
one for our current needs and circumstances.

I am sorry that we have to disagree in this way, but that seems to be
the only possible outcome.


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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:32:06 -0000

---Salvete Omnes:

I shall be voting for the current proposed lex as it reads also; it is
quite fine for the next election, giving sufficient definition of a
majority and allowing more votes to count than before.

Modifications can be ironed out next year, as can any plans for a
census, century check.

I am just pleased that we caught a major glitch in our electorial
system *before* our election of magistrates and not afterward.



Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia


In novaroma@--------, Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@--------> wrote:
> Salvete Quirites; et salve, Quinte Corneli.
>
> --- Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@--------> wrote:
> > Ave,
> > In response to the comments of Gnaeus Salix Astur
> > I have to say this:
> > The 2/3 majority rule is used in the United
> > States first off to answer your question. Secondly
> > how is that 2/3 majority rule discriminate? The
> > Congess of the United States uses that rule for its
> > voting procedures. No Americans really complain about
> > being discriminated against via the 2/3 rule. I will
> > not dispute that 50%+1 shows a majority. However its
> > a pathetic majority and if you have a vote of 51-49 it
> > shows that a piece of legislation just barely was
> > passed. However when you create a requirement for a
> > larger gap between Yes and No votes then it truly
> > shows that a large majority of the population are in
> > favor of that item being voted upon. A 2/3 rule also
> > means that those who caft the legislation etc. are
> > going to need to craft it in such a way that it
> > represents the interests of those across the board not
> > just a majority who maybe in power. Say you have
> > something like Northern Ireland where there's a
> > Protestant majority and a Catholic minority and lets
> > change the proportions of Protestants to being 55% of
> > the population and Catholics 45% of the populous.
> > There is no one clear cut group with a 2/3 majority.
> > So legiislation would have to be created that would
> > represent the interests of the Catholics just as much
> > as the Protestants to obtain that 2/3 majority in a
> > vote. It doesn't discriminate but prevents a
> > dictatorship under the guise of a democratic
> > institution.
> > vale,
> > Quintus Cornelius Caesar
>
> I didn't know that the U.S. Congress uses such a majority. I offer
my
> apologies if I implied it did.
>
> However, that does not make a 2/3 majority any better, in my humble
> opinion. I am sure that the U.S. Congress has its good reasons for
> using it, but none of the reasons you and others have put forward
are
> sufficient to change my mind. For me, a 51% majority is a legitimate
> one for our current needs and circumstances.
>
> I am sorry that we have to disagree in this way, but that seems to
be
> the only possible outcome.
>
>
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> Gnaeus Salix Astur.
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@-------->
Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:20:37 -0800 (PST)

Ave,
No apology is needed for our disagreement. You
may find the 51% majority better than the 2/3 and
myself vice versa. We are all entitled to our
disagreements especially since we are all from
different regions and countries which may have
extremely differing governmental systems or not. I do
not fully know why the United States Congress uses
such a majority and I do not doubt that it has had its
arguments due to that rule. But I believe it uses
such a policy because it demonstrates a clear cut
majority by a large margin rather than as I stated
before just barely squeaking by with a 1% margin.
Though 51%-49% does demonstrate a majority, which i
won't argue, a democratic system is a system of the
people. So a 2/3 rule shows that a large majority of
the people are in favor of this piece being voted upon
rather than just this 1% that just puched it over to
pass it. That's all I really have to say on the
matter and I will stand by the 2/3 rule.
vale,
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@-------->
Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:42:39 -0800 (PST)

This is a total distortion of the rules of the US
Congress. The ONLY time a 2/3 majority is required is
when a member of Congress is expelled from office or a
Constionual Admendment is being voted on.

For passing laws all that is required is a simple
majority of Representives casting votes. A quoram of
half the members being present is required to hold a
vote, so if only half the members are present anf half
of them plus one vote for a law it can pass with as
little as just over 25% of the members voting on it.

L. Sicinius Drusus

--- Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@--------> wrote:
> Ave,
> In response to the comments of Gnaeus Salix
> Astur
> I have to say this:
> The 2/3 majority rule is used in the United
> States first off to answer your question. Secondly
> how is that 2/3 majority rule discriminate? The
> Congess of the United States uses that rule for its
> voting procedures. No Americans really complain
> about
> being discriminated against via the 2/3 rule. I
> will
> not dispute that 50%+1 shows a majority. However
> its
> a pathetic majority and if you have a vote of 51-49
> it
> shows that a piece of legislation just barely was
> passed. However when you create a requirement for a
> larger gap between Yes and No votes then it truly
> shows that a large majority of the population are in
> favor of that item being voted upon. A 2/3 rule
> also
> means that those who caft the legislation etc. are
> going to need to craft it in such a way that it
> represents the interests of those across the board
> not
> just a majority who maybe in power. Say you have
> something like Northern Ireland where there's a
> Protestant majority and a Catholic minority and lets
> change the proportions of Protestants to being 55%
> of
> the population and Catholics 45% of the populous.
> There is no one clear cut group with a 2/3 majority.
>
> So legiislation would have to be created that would
> represent the interests of the Catholics just as
> much
> as the Protestants to obtain that 2/3 majority in a
> vote. It doesn't discriminate but prevents a
> dictatorship under the guise of a democratic
> institution.
> vale,
> Quintus Cornelius Caesar
>
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@-------->
Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:42:53 -0600 (CST)

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Michael Loughlin wrote:

> The 2/3 majority rule is used in the United
> States first off to answer your question.

Not for popular votes.

> Secondly how is that 2/3 majority rule discriminate? The
> Congess of the United States uses that rule for its
> voting procedures.

Only for overriding vetoes, an extraordinary circumstance.
Simple majority is used for ordinary votes.

> However its a pathetic majority and if you have a vote of 51-49 it
> shows that a piece of legislation just barely was passed.

A majority nonetheless. The 49 should not dictate to the 51.

Vale, Octavius.

--
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Curator Araneum et Senator

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@-------->
Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:47:46 -0600 (CST)

Salve Quinte Corneli,

> I do not fully know why the United States Congress uses
> such a majority [2/3rds] and I do not doubt that it has had its
> arguments due to that rule.

Most of the time, it doesn't. The US Congress uses simple majority.
Overriding presidential vetoes and impeachment are the situations
that require 2/3rds supermajority. Regular votes require simple
majority.

> So a 2/3 rule shows that a large majority of
> the people are in favor of this piece being voted upon
> rather than just this 1% that just puched it over to
> pass it.

The US Congress does not have it. The Romans did not have it.
Neither should we.

Vale, O.

--
M. Octavius Germanicus
Curator Araneum et Senator

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Subject:	[novaroma] 2/3 rds Majority
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:50:30 -0500 (EST)

Citizens of Nova Roma;

The 2/3rds majority used by the Congress of the U.S. is only resorted to
in special circumstances, as indicated by others on this list. However,
the every day business of government--national, state, and local is
carried on using the simpe majority rule.

As a Chairman and Board Member of several local organizations, "Roberts
Rules of Order" are adhered to and the majority rules with the
undrstanding that the Minority has the right to be heard. This follows
the standard operation of our more senior organizations.

As indicated, a vote of 51% to 49% may indeed be a pitiful majority, but
majority it is, with the same power and responsibilities of a 2/3rds
majority.

In viewing the results of such a close majority as described above, it
is in my humble opinio always wise to carefully scrutinize the views of
the Minority to find the values that they place on ther views. I have
always advocated that method, and I use it faithfully in my own
determinations. It is, for me, the basis of the possibility of
addressing the situation further if necessary.

However, the simple majority has the strength of allowing a group of
individuals such as we have in Nova Roma, with fresh new ideas, and in
many instances ideas which spring not from experience but rather from
advanced education, the leeway to come to concurrence on any given
question so that the micronation may move ahead, with the actions and
activities that must be undertaken here.

Remember that the 2/3rds majority is used oly in special activities such
as overruling the veto of the President of the United States. In the
U.S. this is a very serious undertaking and has happened very seldom in
our history. Secondly your note regarding the crafting of legislation
which would pass the 2/3rds rule is a daunting one, and has certain
connotations here in the U.S., where it is used rarely, that make such
crafting exceedingly diffcult. It is easy to criticise those who craft
legislation from a single point of view, but quite another to satisfy,
even by a simple majority rule, a group of individuals who do not have
the face-to-face privalage and responsibility. This face-to-face idea,
while transparent in many cases to those not experienced in the
involvement of concurrence and agreement, is quite apparent to those who
have experienced these situations over significant time

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Subject:	[novaroma] 2/3rds Majority
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:52:51 -0500 (EST)

Citizens of Nova Roma;

My apologies in striking the wrong key. I is a problem that I seem to
have (Grin!!!!!). I did not mean to leave the net without signing my
name.

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Scriba's report
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:10:41 -0500 (EST)

Scriba Sentorius Caius Puteus Germanicus;

I have today read your very exclellent report regarding the sites and
activities of Germania Inferior. I am very pleased at your extensive
efforts and you have my personal thanks, and on behalf of the Citizens
of Nova Roma, thier thanks as well.

I urge all the Citizens of Nova Roma to review this excellent beginning
and to assist Scriba Caius Germanicus in the gathering of material and
information relating to Roman History and Culture as you may and as you
desire to do so.

http://www.geocities.com/germania_inferior/

I take this this opportunity to announce to Nova Roma my selection of
Caius Puteus Germanicus as Scriba Sentorius for the area of Germania
Inferior specifically, and for the area of Western Europe in general,
This appointment shall continue at the pleasure of Senator Marcus
Minucius Audens, until such time as terminated by him for cause or by
elevation to further rank or position.

Respectfully;
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Subject:	[novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	"Bjarne Sinkjaer" <bjsink@-------->
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:27:59 -0000

Ave Honorable Quintus Cornelius Caesar. Citizens.

I must say I am surprised that any democratic organ can work with a
2/3 majority rule. Denmark has, as some of you may know, a very
diverse congress with a lot of small parties. We would never have any
laws voted for under that rule. The only law that needs 2/3
majorities, is changes to the constitution – an option which the
Danish parliament have never used as far I can remember. The later
has always been send out to the people for voting.

I must agree with you in principle, that 51% majority rule is the
tyranny of the majority over the minority, but if things shall work
in practice, it cannot be any other way. That's why most democratizes
use a 51% majority rule. Representative democracy is not the best
option either, but every citizen cannot (and will not) sit in
parliament, and we do not see this as tyranny. Working democracy is a
compromise.

Respectfully
A. Cornelius Sallust

Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Book help wanted
From:	"Marek Grajek" <MarekJG@-------->
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:32:04 +0100

Salve,

I'am afraid that Polish language Vandals monography from my shelf will not
help you. As to the Appian try
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/appian-civwars1.html.

Marcus

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Stevenson [mailto:gaiussentius@--------]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:27 PM
> To: novaroma@--------
> Subject: [novaroma] Book help wanted
>
>
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I need help finding certain books, and I was wondering
> whether anyone out there can help.
>
> The first topic of books I am looking for are anything
> on the Vandals (where they came from, their history,
> social structure etc.).
>
> The second lot of books I am looking for are Appian's
> Roman Histories. I have tried to find them, but they
> are often scattered and on either normal history or
> the Civil Wars. If anyone can tell me where I can
> aquire a copy of all of the books of the histories, I
> would be most grateful.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Valete bene omnes,
>
> Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura
>
> "Cogito Ergo Sum" - Descartes
>
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Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Book help wanted
From:	"Marek Grajek" <MarekJG@-------->
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:43:57 +0100

Salve,

Check also http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/L002.html.

Vale,

Marcus Aquila

> The second lot of books I am looking for are Appian's
> Roman Histories. I have tried to find them, but they
> are often scattered and on either normal history or
> the Civil Wars. If anyone can tell me where I can
> aquire a copy of all of the books of the histories, I
> would be most grateful.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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>
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>
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Subject:	[novaroma] Scribae Senatoris
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:21:43 -0500 (EST)

Citizens of Nova Roma;

This notice is to inform you that I have made the following appointments
applying to Citizens of Nova Roma:

----Scriba Senatoris -- Italia (Eastern Europa)
Manius Consantinus Serapio;

----Scriba Senatoris -- Germania Inferior (Western Europe)
Caius Puteus Germanicus

----Scriba Senatoris -- Australia (Southern Pacific Area)
Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura

The purpose of these appointments are to gather together in one area
data about different countries and different cultures which are bound
together in the Nova Roma interest of Roman History and Culture. As a
secondary purpose these gentlemen have asked on the Main List what they
can do in support of Nova Roma, and how they can get to know a little
more about Nova Roma in the process. I have offered this position and
the tasks assigned to each individual as a way of accomplishing both
tasks, and these three gentlemen are working dilligently at the efforts
asked of them.

They currently serve without Century Points, as none have been allotted
to this position as yet, and they serve at thier pleasure, and as with
my former Consular Assensai, I have established a working relationship
with them, and hope to establish the same long-lasting friendships with
these new appointees as with the old.

I again announce on the Main List, that any Citizen of NR who is
interested in introducing his / her country in a more detailed way to
Nova Roma as a whole, who are willing to put their efforts to such a
project, and who can meet the requirements of such a position to contact
me for an E-Mail interview, and possible assignment.

For those who do not already belong to the Sodalitas Militarium, and who
have an interest in the Roman Military, I invite you to consider joining
the Militarium. This Sodalitas offers four areas of study under
appointed Nova Roma Citizens who are currently studying the Roman
Military in thier areas:

-----Legions;

-----Legion Auxileries;

-----Naval Interests;

-----Engineering and Cartography.

The Militarium Discussion List is also a place where military questions
are raised, ideas exchanged and information is brought forward. There
is a periodic newsletter called the "Pilum" which is issued to the
Militarium and then to the main List. Specialty Areas for other
military concerns and interests are available for consideration and
discussion with appropriate Rank and Position determination.

I urge all Nova Roma Citizens who are interested in assisting Nova Roma
in these above ways to seriously consider being involved, and if so
interested contact me at the above address.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Senator -- Nova Roma;
ProConsul -- Provincia Nova Britannia -- Nova Roma;
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	labienus@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:23:02 US/Central

Salvete Quinte Corneli et omnes

> The 2/3 majority rule is used in the United
> States first off to answer your question.

While the statement above is technically correct--the 2/3 majority rule is used
in the US--it is quite misleading. The US Congress operates almost entirely
through a simple majority. A 2/3 majority is only required to overturn a
Presidential veto, expel a member of one of the houses, or propose a
Constitutional amendment to the states.

One should also note that a quorum in the US Congress is merely a majority of
the members of each house, and that a simple majority of a quorum is all that
is needed to pass a law. Therefore, in the US Senate (which has 200 members),
as few as 26 votes could enact a law--25%+1. And,in the House of
Representatives at least (I am less familiar with the Senate's rules of
procedure), there are times in which the quorum only needs to be present, and a
simple majority of those Representatives who choose to vote (minimum 15, IIRC)
carries the day.

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus

Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	labienus@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:29:13 US/Central

Salvete

> Therefore, in the US Senate (which has 200 members),
> as few as 26 votes could enact a law--25%+1.

Argh. Obviously, I need to get more sleep. That should be 51 votes.

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus

Subject:	Re: [novaroma] COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	labienus@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:32:16 US/Central

Salvete

> > Therefore, in the US Senate (which has 200 members),
> > as few as 26 votes could enact a law--25%+1.
>
> Argh. Obviously, I need to get more sleep. That should be 51 votes.

Okay, one last time. The US Senate has 100 members, and it should be 26
votes. Just shoot me now...

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	trog99@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:54:35 -0000

---(((((Pompeia Cornelia hands her honoured Tribune et Senator a
large, strong, steamy cup of Canadian coffee...........hmm.....enjoy:O
))))))))))))))))))

Pompeia.........who does stuff like this too......ahhggh :0(

In novaroma@--------, labienus@t... wrote:
> Salvete
>
> > > Therefore, in the US Senate (which has 200 members),
> > > as few as 26 votes could enact a law--25%+1.
> >
> > Argh. Obviously, I need to get more sleep. That should be 51
votes.
>
> Okay, one last time. The US Senate has 100 members, and it should
be 26
> votes. Just shoot me now...
>
> Valete
> T Labienus Fortunatus

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: COMITIA CENTURIATA - Finalized Agenda & Schedule
From:	ksterne@--------
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:23:58 -0000

Salvete,

As it currently stands, the voting procedures/requirements for the
Comita Centuriata can completely hobble the Comita's ability to
accomplish anything. This was clearly shown in the most recent
election. Therefore, it must be fixed. It's important that it be
fixed quickly, so our nation can elect magistrates next month.

A "none of the above" option would only exacerbate the problem
(providing for elections that result in no result), as would any type
of "super majority".

I urge all citizens to vote for the change.

Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas

Subject:	[novaroma] Market Day, 19 November 2754
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@-------->
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:43:07 -0600 (CST)

Salvete Omnes,

Today is a Market Day; therefore all available citizens are encouraged
to participate in the regularly scheduled chat session.

The recommended times are:

I. 8pm Roma, 7pm UK

II. 9pm US/Eastern, 6pm Pacific

Of course, are all welcome to join in either session.

Valete, Octavius.


--
M. Octavius Germanicus
Curator Araneum et Senator

http://www.konoko.net/~haase/

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Market Day, 19 November 2754
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <julilla@-------->
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:04:12 -0000

--- In novaroma@--------, Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> Today is a Market Day; therefore all available citizens are
encouraged to participate in the regularly scheduled chat session.
>
> The recommended times are:
>
> I. 8pm Roma, 7pm UK
>
> II. 9pm US/Eastern, 6pm Pacific
>
> Of course, are all welcome to join in either session.
>
> Valete, Octavius.
>
>
> --
> M. Octavius Germanicus
> Curator Araneum et Senator



Rats! I have a real-life engagement then, but must take a moment to
encourage those who have the time to drop by the chat at
www.novaroma.org. I had a thoroughly enjoyable time; in fact, I had
meant to drop in and pay my regards, then drop back out, but would up
spending a very delightful couple of hours instead in M. Octavius
Germanicus' slick and easy chatroom interface.

Enjoy!

---
cura ut valeas,

@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| http://julilla.tripod.com/
Daily Life in Ancient Rome
@____@ ju--------a@--------
||||

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Scribae Senatoris
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:21:59 -0000

Salve;

--- In novaroma@--------, jmath669642reng@w... wrote:
> Citizens of Nova Roma;
>
> This notice is to inform you that I have made the following
appointments
> applying to Citizens of Nova Roma:

May I ask under what authority you are authorized to make such
appointments? Is this a Sodalitas Militarium thing? If so, it wasn't
clear.

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul