| Subject: |
[novaroma] Investiment of Imperium |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:39:40 +0000 (GMT) |
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Gnaeus Salix Astur civibus Novis Romanis S.P.D.
I, Gnaeus Salix Astur, as a Lictor Curiatus of Nova Roma and a member
of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of
Imperium - the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws -
to the duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2755 AUC.
May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.
Valete,
Gnaeus Salix Astur
Lictor Curiatus Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Call for submissions: Pagan poetry anthology |
| From: |
"pjane64" <pcassia@janeraeburn.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:32:46 -0000 |
|
Apologies for the garble. Poetry submissions should be sent to
poems@janeraeburn.com
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM |
| From: |
Daniel Dreesbach <stakor2000@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:40:22 -0800 (PST) |
|
INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM
I, Gauis Geminius Germanus, Lictor Novae Romae and a member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2755 AUC.
May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year. Bene omnibus Nobis
Valete, Censor Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
Lictor Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Re: Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth of 1/1 votes |
| From: |
"Theresa Irwin" <twright56@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:32:17 -0500 |
|
Actually back in 1917 the law was changed to allow the voters to vote for senator. Before then the governors of the various states could appoint the Senators. I could be wrong on the date but I believe I have the gist.
The United States' government is based on Greco-Roman ideals NOT the actual practice. Plus add in English common law and voilia a very successful experiment in government which has lasted for over two hundred years. Republican Rome lasted for about 300 then came Imperial Rome from 44BC to 476 AD which is very good.
Alexandria Iulia Agrippa
ICQ# 25205373
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] VENATOR SENDS: INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM |
| From: |
Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@inwave.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Jan 2002 20:09:22 -0600 |
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Avete Omnes,
It is my duty, and pleasure, as Lictore to invest Imperium in the newly elected magistrates. I
do so with this statement.
Investment of Imperium
I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia Curiata,
hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the power to carry out the
constitutionally stated duties and uphold the laws - to the duly elected magistrates of the Nova
Roman government for the year comprising January 2254 AUC to December 2755 AUC.
I ask that the Holy Ones and Genius of Roma, Antiqua et Nova, watch over the Magistrates of Nova
Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the positive furtherance
of Romanitas, within due deliberation. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and our
Citizens in this coming year.
=========================================
And as a Cives, who has been here since early in our history and has served our fair Res
Publica, I ask the further Blessing of amiable candor between our Magistrates and Cives.
I further pledge 10 gallons of my attempt at Falernian for the New City's fifth anniversary
celebration.
Be well all and my heartfelt congratulations.
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM |
| From: |
Art McGrath <bcatfd@together.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Jan 2002 22:36:54 -0500 |
|
I, Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus, Senator, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold
the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755
AUC.
May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond
bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.
Valete,
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Senator, Paterfamilias Gens Iunia, Lictor of Nova Roma
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth of 1/1 votes. |
| From: |
Quintus Cornelius Caesar <qccaesar@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:42:33 -0800 (PST) |
|
Ave,
How much power does the monarchy have? Do not
take this as bashing your government. The royal
family has been reduced to more or less figure heads.
However those figure heads have a lot of influence not
power. From my point of view there is a HUGE
difference between power and influence. Plus your
Prime Minister (head of state) is more or less
elected. When you vote in the Parliamentary system
you vote for parties. Whichever party is the majority
basically chooses from amongst themselves who shall
fulfill the duties of Prime Minister. I agree with
you in the sense that the British head of state is not
directly elected by the people however they have
influence on what type of PM there will be, as in
political views (i.e. labor or tory).
vale,
Quintus Cornelius Caesar
--- Decimus Iunius Silanus <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Salve
>
> Quintus Cassius Calvus wrote:
> >Britian is NOT a democracy, it is a parliamentarian
> Republic,
>
> If only it were. Unfortunately Britain is actually
> what they call a 'constitutional monarchy', that is
> a parliamentary democracy with an unelected and
> hereditary head of state. And, given our unwritten
> constitution, I think many people would actually be
> astounded at the extent of the power of the British
> monarchy. In any event, an unelected head of state
> is, in my opinion, incompatible with democracy of
> any description.
>
> One of the reasons I'm so proud to belong to a
> proper republic - and a roman one at that :-)
>
> Vale
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus
> Nova Roman and staunch republican.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] oath of office |
| From: |
Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sillanp=E4=E4?= <mikko.sillanpaa@saunalahti.fi> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:07:37 +0200 |
|
I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko
Sillanpää) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.
I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää) swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.
I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Aedilis
(Caeso Fabius Q.) Concursus to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Scriba Aedilis (Caeso Fabius Q.)
Concursus and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Re: Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:49:16 +0100 |
|
Salve Honorable Alexandria Iulia Agrippa!
I am sorry but >You are wrong with about 166 years, the Republic was
founded about 510. USA is still very young! ;-)
>Actually back in 1917 the law was changed to allow the voters to vote for
>senator. Before then the governors of the various states could appoint
>the Senators. I could be wrong on the date but I believe I have the gist.
>The United States' government is based on Greco-Roman ideals NOT the
>actual practice. Plus add in English common law and voilia a very
>successful experiment in government which has lasted for over two hundred
>years. Republican Rome lasted for about 300 then came Imperial Rome from
>44BC to 476 AD which is very good.
>Alexandria Iulia Agrippa
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth of 1/1 votes. |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Decimus=20Iunius=20Silanus?= <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:43:45 +0000 (GMT) |
|
Salve Quinte Corneli
>How much power does the monarchy have?
As I said, actually quite a bit. All laws passed by
parliament need to be ratified by the Queen. The
monarch still retains the right to dissolve parliament
at any time. Also, in the event of a hung parliament
following an election, it is the monarch who gets to
choose who will attempt to form the next government.
Now admittedly tradition dictates that the monarch
does not abuse these powers. However, given our lack
of a written constitution, there is nothing legally
binding to prevent a monarch from doing so (bar the
threat of the ensuing constitutional crisis that would
be bound to occur). My argument is solely that no
person should have such powers simply based on which
family they are born into. An unelected and hereditary
head of state is, IMO, incompatible with any form of
democracy in any sense of the word.
>Do not take this as bashing your government.
Bash away. I do so on a regular basis :-)
>The royal family has been reduced to more or less
>figure heads.
Possibly, but not necessarily - see above.
>However those figure heads have a lot of influence
not
>power. From my point of view there is a HUGE
>difference between power and influence.
Accepting your premise for a second, I could still
argue that no individual should have the right to
exercise such influence simply because they were born
into it. Such people should be elected.
>Plus your Prime Minister (head of state) is more or
>less elected.
Our Prime Minister is not our head of state. He is the
elected representative of the people and the head of
state - the Queen.
>When you vote in the Parliamentary system you vote
>for parties. Whichever party is the majority
>basically chooses from amongst themselves who shall
>fulfill the duties of Prime Minister.
Not quite. Party members (ie. members of the public)
now have quite a say in who is going to be party
leader amongst all three major parties in Britain.
This say is shared with sitting Members of Parliament
and in the case of the Labour Party, the Trade Unions.
However, it is the Monarch who, after election day,
selects which party leader gets to form the next
government.
>I agree with you in the sense that the British head
>of state is not directly elected by the people
>however they have influence on what type of PM there
>will be, as in political views (i.e. labor or tory)
As I said, the British head of state is not elected by
the people in any sense of the word. The British head
of state is the Queen.
And don't even get me started on the House of Lords
;-)
Vale
Decimus Iunius Silanus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Oath of office: Aedilis Plebis |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:00:18 +0000 (GMT) |
|
I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (Dennis Temmerman) do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Apollonius
Cicatrix (Dennis Temmerman) swear to honor the Gods
and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.
I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (Dennis Temmerman)
swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the
State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.
I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (Dennis Temmerman)
swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.
I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (Dennis Temmerman)
further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of aedilis plebes to
the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of aedilis plebes and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Aedilis Plebis
civis Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Yet another investment of imperium |
| From: |
Patricia Cassia <pcassia@janeraeburn.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 07:52:38 -0500 |
|
INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM
I, Patricia Cassia, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the duly elected
Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2755 AUC.
May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of
Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for
the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon
our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.
Valete,
--
Patricia Cassia, Lictor ('cause "Lictrix" just sounds obscene)
Senatrix et Minerva Templi Sacerdos, Nova Roma
pcassia@novaroma.org
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] My sympathies to all |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Craig=20Stevenson?= <gaiussentius@yahoo.com.au> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:57:42 +1100 (EST) |
|
Salvete omnes, et civies of Australia provincia,
I come before you all tonight to offer my condolences
to those who have lost their possessions and
belongings in the terrible bushfires currently raging
across New South Wales. That such an inhumane act
could be the agency of a human being is beyond all
capacity of understanding, with the all of the
destruction, trauma and anguish that is caused by such
occurances. The only thing left is to rebuild and try
to forget such things, though they may leave a lasting
legacy. I hope that all civies of Australia provincia,
and indeed all civies of Nova Roma will lend their
voices in condolence to all of those affected by this
great disaster.
May the gods watch over us all, bless us, and succor
those in need.
Valete bene omnes,
Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura
Legatus Australia Medius
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth of 1/1 votes. |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <pokrock@aol.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 04:15:01 -0000 |
|
--- In novaroma@y..., "Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@y...>
wrote:
> Salve
>
> Quintus Cassius Calvus wrote:
> >Britian is NOT a democracy, it is a parliamentarian Republic,
>
> If only it were. Unfortunately Britain is actually what they call
a 'constitutional monarchy', <snipped for brevity>
Salve,
Thank you Decimus Iunius Silanus for that correction. If I remember
correctly the crown can dismiss the parliament.
Pax,
Quintus Cassius Calvus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM |
| From: |
sminla@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 02:01:19 EST |
|
Lictor L. Fabius Metallus Quiritibus SPD
I witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium to the newly elected Nova
Roman magistrates for this new year.
May the Gods aid these Magistrates of Nova Roma, and give them the desire to
use their Imperium for good of the people and in the spirit of old Rome to
bring fortune upon our micronation and its citizens.
Valete
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: My sympathies to all |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:17:54 -0000 |
|
---
Salve Gai Sente:
Having been working a few days consecutive, I'm a bit behind in my
macronational news, and I was unaware of this tragic incident.
Your people of S. Wales have my sympathy, and my prayers that these
fires will soon be arrested, that the personal injuries can somehow be
minimized, and that those who may be responsible for inflicting such
suffering on innocent people shall be brought to the sternist of
justice.
All my best,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetrix
Nova Roma
In novaroma@y..., Craig Stevenson <gaiussentius@y...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes, et civies of Australia provincia,
>
> I come before you all tonight to offer my condolences
> to those who have lost their possessions and
> belongings in the terrible bushfires currently raging
> across New South Wales. That such an inhumane act
> could be the agency of a human being is beyond all
> capacity of understanding, with the all of the
> destruction, trauma and anguish that is caused by such
> occurances. The only thing left is to rebuild and try
> to forget such things, though they may leave a lasting
> legacy. I hope that all civies of Australia provincia,
> and indeed all civies of Nova Roma will lend their
> voices in condolence to all of those affected by this
> great disaster.
>
> May the gods watch over us all, bless us, and succor
> those in need.
>
> Valete bene omnes,
>
> Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura
>
> Legatus Australia Medius
>
> http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo!
> - It's My Yahoo! Get your own!
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] File - NovaRomaList.txt |
| From: |
novaroma@yahoogroups.com |
| Date: |
2 Jan 2002 14:41:50 -0000 |
|
GUIDELINES FOR THE NOVA ROMA MAILING LIST
By Priscilla Vedia Serena
Curatrix Sermonem (List moderator)
(with thanks to Patricia Cassia for the original text)
This list is for you, and I see my role as trying to facilitate a place where we can all share information and get to know one another. These guidelines are open to change, and to your suggestions. Today the list has more than 350 people on it. As we've grown, we have had to adjust the way we communicate so as to make electronic "rooom" for everyone. This set of guidelines represents another effort in that direction. It is not a response to any one person or posting.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Call for Propraetores wishing to Continue |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:28:40 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salvete,
In accordance with the Senatus Consultum regarding Regulation of
Gubernatorial Prorogation:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-03-11-iv.html
I now ask all currently serving Propraetores to contact the consules
at consules@novaroma.org and indicate whether you wish to continue
in office beyond the Kalends of Martius. At this time, a brief
statement of intent is all that is necessary, but we will be asking
for a more detailed report of the state of your province
before the Kalends of Februarius.
Valete, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Latin Help |
| From: |
mark zona <pitdog2002@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:58:26 -0800 (PST) |
|
Salvete Quirites!
I have a problem and am seeking some help :)
Someone has sent me a question on stoicism. The
problem is that the question is in Latin and I don't
know Latin. I have a notion of what the question is
and the question is easilly answered, but I have no
way of responding as I do not know Latin and I do not
believe my friend knows english. This I believe is the
reason the question came in Latin in the first place.
Sooooooo.....
If there are any Latin speaking stoics out there, may
I forward the querry to you so that you may respond in
Latin? Even if you are not familiar with stoicism, I
can provide (i believe) the answers and these can be
transposed into Latin.
My e-mail is markzona@mindspring.com.
Yes, I know I really need to find the time to learn
Latin :)
Gratia Quirites!
Marcus Antonius Zeno
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
"Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:28:58 +0100 |
|
Salvete Quirites!
Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius Draco, who
stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and that he
didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
nevertheless he returned: welcome back Draco, now to be known as Marcus
Octavius Solaris...
Vale bene!
Caius Cornelius Puteanus
www.geocities.com/puteanus/
www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth of 1/1 votes. |
| From: |
Quintus Cornelius Caesar <qccaesar@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:29:56 -0800 (PST) |
|
Ave,
Well in the sense of bashing I'm Irish so I am
not fond of the Monarch....well Irish-American but the
pride is there. House of Lords I view kinda like the
US Senate--an old mens club. However, I've always
tended to view the PM is your head of state because he
is the political figure usually dealt with. Though
technically yes the monarch is your head of state.
Though no man or woman should be allowed to exert such
powerful in fluence they do even businessmen have such
influence in governmental politics.
vale,
Quintus Cornelius Caesar
--- Decimus Iunius Silanus <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Salve Quinte Corneli
>
> >How much power does the monarchy have?
>
> As I said, actually quite a bit. All laws passed by
> parliament need to be ratified by the Queen. The
> monarch still retains the right to dissolve
> parliament
> at any time. Also, in the event of a hung parliament
> following an election, it is the monarch who gets to
> choose who will attempt to form the next government.
>
> Now admittedly tradition dictates that the monarch
> does not abuse these powers. However, given our lack
> of a written constitution, there is nothing legally
> binding to prevent a monarch from doing so (bar the
> threat of the ensuing constitutional crisis that
> would
> be bound to occur). My argument is solely that no
> person should have such powers simply based on which
> family they are born into. An unelected and
> hereditary
> head of state is, IMO, incompatible with any form of
> democracy in any sense of the word.
>
> >Do not take this as bashing your government.
>
> Bash away. I do so on a regular basis :-)
>
> >The royal family has been reduced to more or less
> >figure heads.
>
> Possibly, but not necessarily - see above.
>
> >However those figure heads have a lot of influence
> not
> >power. From my point of view there is a HUGE
> >difference between power and influence.
>
> Accepting your premise for a second, I could still
> argue that no individual should have the right to
> exercise such influence simply because they were
> born
> into it. Such people should be elected.
>
> >Plus your Prime Minister (head of state) is more or
> >less elected.
>
> Our Prime Minister is not our head of state. He is
> the
> elected representative of the people and the head of
> state - the Queen.
>
> >When you vote in the Parliamentary system you vote
> >for parties. Whichever party is the majority
> >basically chooses from amongst themselves who shall
> >fulfill the duties of Prime Minister.
>
> Not quite. Party members (ie. members of the public)
> now have quite a say in who is going to be party
> leader amongst all three major parties in Britain.
> This say is shared with sitting Members of
> Parliament
> and in the case of the Labour Party, the Trade
> Unions.
> However, it is the Monarch who, after election day,
> selects which party leader gets to form the next
> government.
>
> >I agree with you in the sense that the British head
> >of state is not directly elected by the people
> >however they have influence on what type of PM
> there
> >will be, as in political views (i.e. labor or tory)
>
> As I said, the British head of state is not elected
> by
> the people in any sense of the word. The British
> head
> of state is the Queen.
>
> And don't even get me started on the House of Lords
> ;-)
>
> Vale
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Call for photos... |
| From: |
Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili <quinctilius.varus@web.de> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:22:27 +0100 |
|
Ave Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, Curator Araneum et Senator
I will hearby send you my electronical photo-adress and my photo.
http://mitglied.tripod.de/VARUS/qqvg.jpg
Optime vale!
Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili
Legatus Germaniae Superioris
Duumvir junior Colonia Augusta Raurica
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco |
| From: |
"gurupoetess" <SnarkMistress@aol.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:58:40 -0000 |
|
---
Ave,
Solaris, now that is a nice name. Welcome back Solaris( Hoping you
don't mind if I call you that from now on :o).)May you have a new
start in NR and everything comes to past as you hope.
Vale Bene,
R.Cornelia Aeternia (The presently cheerful)
In novaroma@y..., "Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@h...> wrote:
> Salvete Quirites!
>
> Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius
Draco, who
> stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and
that he
> didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
> nevertheless he returned: welcome back Draco, now to be known
as Marcus
> Octavius Solaris...
>
>
> Vale bene!
>
> Caius Cornelius Puteanus
> www.geocities.com/puteanus/
> www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Democracy vs. Republicanism aka the myth of 1/1 |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@bconnex.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:19:20 -0500 |
|
Salve,
Canada is also a constitutional monarchy. Now obviously our ties with the
British crown are not like those in Britain itself, and political
involvement will differ. In present day Canada the Queen is nothing but a
technicality. Here in Canada she is represented by a governor general. The
governor general only takes part in ceremonial roles. She makes no political
decisions and has literally no influence on the operation of government. The
monarchy plays such a small role, that I would not be surprised if we did
away with it altogether in my life time.
The monarch is more of a cultural statement about our past, and connections
with Britain. It also makes us different from our American friends, this is
something Canadians are constantly looking for. Something they can
distinguish as their own. I would not say a modern constitutional monarchy
hinders democracy in any way in Canada. The monarch is only the head of
state technically, in reality she is powerless and the Prime Minister runs
the nation and speaks for us internationally.
Vale,
"Quamquam cupido sit delictum ab suis crebro est mater virtutum"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Curule Aedile for 2755
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www25.brinkster.com/canorien/
Gens Claudia Website:
www27.brinkster.com/gensclaudia/
--
>Decimus Iunius Silanus at danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> If only it were. Unfortunately Britain is actually what they call a
> 'constitutional monarchy', that is a parliamentary democracy with an unelected
> and hereditary head of state. And, given our unwritten constitution, I think
> many people would actually be astounded at the extent of the power of the
> British monarchy. In any event, an unelected head of state is, in my opinion,
> incompatible with democracy of any description.
>
> One of the reasons I'm so proud to belong to a proper republic - and a roman
> one at that :-)
>
> Vale
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus
> Nova Roman and staunch republican.
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@bconnex.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:51:53 -0500 |
|
Salve Caius Cornelius,
>Caius Cornelius Puteanus at puteus@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius Draco, who
> stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and that he
> didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
> nevertheless he returned:
Why am I not surprised that he is back? People give up citizenship much to
easily. He also was a priest too...
I can understand one having a solid reason for leaving and sticking with it.
Although, when a citizen pops back and forth between having citizenship like
Sextus Apollonius has I severely question his devotion. I feel like he is
playing head games with the populace. It will take me a while to fully trust
the commitment Marcus Octavius Solaris has made to Nova Roma. I will never
really be able to tell if he is here to stay, or if he is going to resign
citizenship because he suddenly can't stand the path this community is
taking. I hope Marcus Octavius Solaris and my fellow citizens can understand
this... I don't know what to make of his return to Nova Roma. I guess I
welcome him back, but it will take some time for me to support him in a
political or religious position due to his past. I do hope he can stop this
foolishness this time around, and is here to stay.
Vale,
"Quamquam cupido sit delictum ab suis crebro est mater virtutum"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Curule Aedile for 2755
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www25.brinkster.com/canorien/
Gens Claudia Website:
www27.brinkster.com/gensclaudia/
--
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:15:03 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salvete Quirites,
> I can understand one having a solid reason for leaving and sticking with it.
> Although, when a citizen pops back and forth between having citizenship like
> Sextus Apollonius has I severely question his devotion.
It is extraordinarly difficult for anyone holding a high office
in another organization to simultaenously devote himself to
Nova Roma. Thus, the former Draco had chosen to return as a
privatus, and to avoid politics here, but continue to take part
in our cultural activities.
As we had anticipated that he would receive harsh criticism from
both groups, we had hoped that he could return quietly and with
little fanfare. That, unfortunately, did not happen; his identity
was broadcast to our mailing list and to theirs.
That damage cannot be undone; but please respect his desire
to remain among us as a private citizen.
Valete, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
"Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:27:06 +0100 |
|
Salve Amulie Claudie Honorabile!
I have to admit I have the same feeling. Draco's devotion to our own
provincia is very low, even though he was appointed legatus by our governor.
He even refused to take part in our provincial meeting just a few days ago.
But he did attend the meeting of the SVR. I do question his loyalty, and
even though I have never had a bad personal experience with him in the past,
I really am surprised to see this happen. I'm sorry, Marcus Octavius
Solaris, but I think the cives of Gallia have the right to know who their
legate is. I am very disappointed, not in the fact that you devote yourself
to any Roman organization, which I can only approve, but I am disappointed
in letting down all your voters and all people from Gallia.
I do welcome you back, though. And I hope that this will be a lesson. I have
to learn my own, as I undoubtedly make mistakes myself; but I do want to
admit them publicly...
Could we not deliberate on a lex to prevent people from returning for the
third time, even though I hope this will not be necessary? ;-)
Vale bene!
Caius Cornelius Puteanus
www.geocities.com/puteanus/
www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amulius Claudius Petrus" <pkkt@bconnex.net>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
>
> Salve Caius Cornelius,
>
> >Caius Cornelius Puteanus at puteus@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius Draco,
who
> > stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and that
he
> > didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
> > nevertheless he returned:
>
> Why am I not surprised that he is back? People give up citizenship much to
> easily. He also was a priest too...
>
> I can understand one having a solid reason for leaving and sticking with
it.
> Although, when a citizen pops back and forth between having citizenship
like
> Sextus Apollonius has I severely question his devotion. I feel like he is
> playing head games with the populace. It will take me a while to fully
trust
> the commitment Marcus Octavius Solaris has made to Nova Roma. I will never
> really be able to tell if he is here to stay, or if he is going to resign
> citizenship because he suddenly can't stand the path this community is
> taking. I hope Marcus Octavius Solaris and my fellow citizens can
understand
> this... I don't know what to make of his return to Nova Roma. I guess I
> welcome him back, but it will take some time for me to support him in a
> political or religious position due to his past. I do hope he can stop
this
> foolishness this time around, and is here to stay.
>
> Vale,
>
> "Quamquam cupido sit delictum ab suis crebro est mater virtutum"
> "Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of
virtues"
>
> --
> Amulius Claudius Petrus
> Curule Aedile for 2755
> Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
> Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
> Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
> Canada Orientalis Provincia
>
> Canada Orientalis Website:
> www25.brinkster.com/canorien/
>
> Gens Claudia Website:
> www27.brinkster.com/gensclaudia/
> --
>
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:31:03 EST |
|
In a message dated 1/2/02 12:16:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, haase@konoko.com
writes:
> > I can understand one having a solid reason for leaving and sticking with
> it.
>
Salvete,
the Lex is in place to allow the citizen the luxury of time to finalize his
decision.
Roman citizenship is not something you give up lightly and once you do it,
you don't get
it back easily.
I remind citizens that during the Battle of Cannae in 216 BCE, the Consul
Varro and his Equities were routed by the Gaulic and Spanish horse and chased
from the battlefield.
He missed the slaughter of 40,000 Romans. Yet as soon as he could he started
rounding up stragglers, and sent them to Rome. When he himself approached
Rome the Senate sent a deputation to greet him. They thanked him for "not
despairing the republic."
I say the same to young Octavious. Thank you for not despairing the
Republic
Vale
Q. Fabius Maximus.
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|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Investment of Imperium |
| From: |
"Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:30:50 -0000 |
|
INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM
I, Decimus Iunius Silanus as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the duly elected
Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2755 AUC.
May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of
Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for
the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon
our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.
Valete,
Decimus Iunius Silanus
Lictor of Nova Roma
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ProConsulship of Nova Britanna |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:51:00 -0500 (EST) |
|
Honored Consul Octavius Germanicus and Honored Senate Fathers;
I wish to be considered for the continuation of my service as ProConsul
of the above Province in Nova Roma.
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Senator and ProConsul
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
"Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:55:08 +0100 |
|
Salve Quinte Fabie Maxime Illustre!
Salve Quirites!
I think that after all, you're right. I do sincerely appologise to M.
Octavius (former Draco) and to the other people that were surprised or a bit
confused about my reaction. I was haevily shocked and acted in a rush. To
me, the laxity with which people act disturbs me, but perhaps I haven't
acted properly or with dignity today. I feel it is my duty - as it is the
duty of any Roman - not to live in secret or to hide. There is nothing one
should be afraid of, we are all Roman cives. But it is correct that I could
have talked about this with the concerned civis privately.
I do regret the harsh words I used, as I'm sure they will have come hard to
M. Octavius Solaris, which was not my intention. There is no gain in that. I
hope however that, since M. Octavius Solaris has decided not to take up any
political office, he will draw his conclusions for the provincial offices he
helds. Our province is in need of active people and our meeting gave us much
hope we have found some of them already. I hope they will get their chance
to prove what they stand for.
I will also personally apologise to M. Octavius Solaris, as it is my duty.
Perhaps I should think a little more before throwing 'immature' at other
people's heads, than start acting that way myself. As I already said, I have
lessons to learn, and this may be one of them. Anyway, I repeat my welcome
and my apology.
Vale bene!
Caius Cornelius Puteanus
www.geocities.com/puteanus/
www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
----- Original Message -----
From: <qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
> In a message dated 1/2/02 12:16:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
haase@konoko.com
> writes:
>
>
> > > I can understand one having a solid reason for leaving and sticking
with
> > it.
> >
> Salvete,
> the Lex is in place to allow the citizen the luxury of time to finalize
his
> decision.
> Roman citizenship is not something you give up lightly and once you do it,
> you don't get
> it back easily.
> I remind citizens that during the Battle of Cannae in 216 BCE, the Consul
> Varro and his Equities were routed by the Gaulic and Spanish horse and
chased
> from the battlefield.
> He missed the slaughter of 40,000 Romans. Yet as soon as he could he
started
> rounding up stragglers, and sent them to Rome. When he himself approached
> Rome the Senate sent a deputation to greet him. They thanked him for "not
> despairing the republic."
> I say the same to young Octavious. Thank you for not despairing the
> Republic
>
> Vale
> Q. Fabius Maximus.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] A New Face |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:09:50 -0500 (EST) |
|
Welcome to Nova Roma Marcus Octavius Solaris;
To the Citizen of Nova Roma:
I was saddened by the leaving of a young gentleman by the name of Draco.
He was certainly in many ways far beyond the normal expectations of
someone of his young age and I was disappointed in his decision. I had
questioned young Draco privately about some items that I was curious
about and he had answered me in a polite and staight forward manner. I
was hoping to get to know him better, but he chose for his own reasons
to leave NR, and from experience I have learned the folly of judging the
values and reasons of others, from my own very narrow perspectives.
I welcome Marcus Octavius Solaris to NR, and I hope that perhaps he and
I can make the connection to friendshp that I missed with young Draco.
Such an opportunity can never come again, of course, but to my mind, the
consistant effort of treating people right with relation to their
feelings, ideals and reasons is an effort that is never totally lost.
Welcome to NR Master Solaris and may your stay here be long and
fruitful.
Respectfully, and Sincerely;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: question |
| From: |
"Lucius Equitius" <vze23hw7@verizon.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:45:27 -0500 |
|
Salve, Rich
I'm glad to see that their are members in MD. How many are in MD?
Check out the Provincia page
http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provincia?provid=A-MA
Where and when do you meet?
On the first or Second weekend of June we have "Roman Days" at the Merrietta
Mansion near Bowie,MD
I'm seriously considering becoming a member & I'd like to meet other
members.
Well, many of my gens re there but not too many others from MD have shown in
the past, but every year there are more. Post to the 'main list'
novaroma@yahoogroups.com
and see what comes up. I'd like to see some of the 'local' citizens too.
Vale, Censor L Equitius
> Salve, Rich
>
> > Nova Roma has also an own Sodalitas Latinitas for the study of the latin
> language.
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] A note of Thanks |
| From: |
"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 21:48:13 -0000 |
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Salvete,
Just a quick note to thank all of the outgoing magistrates for the
time, effort, money, and dedication they contributed to our Republic
this past year.
Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Australia |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:58:49 -0500 (EST) |
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Master Sura;
I have just been reading an amusing and very informative book about
Australia by the name of
--"In A Sunburned Country", B. Bryson.
In the book the author makes mention of the bushfires and I offer his
question and the responding comments of his host who is a resident of
South Melbourne, Victoria. Bryson identifies him as the Editor of the
Melboure Sunday Herald-Sun:
Bryson: "Are bushfires a big worry?"
Mr. Allen Howe (afterwards A.H.): "Well, they are when they happen.
Sometimes they are colossal. Gum trees just want to burn, you know.
It's part of thier strategy. How they outcompete other plants. They're
full of ol, and once they catch fire they're a 'bugger' to put out. You
get a really big bushfire moving across the landscape at fifty miles an
hour with flames leaping a hundred and fifty feet into the air and it's
an awesome sight, believe me."
Bryson: "How often does that happen?"
A.H.: Oh, I suppose every ten years or so you get a really big one.
There was one in 1994 that burned 600,000 hectares and threatened part
of Sydney. I was there at the time and in one direction there was this
pall of black smoke that completely filled the sky. Burned for days.
The biggest one ever, was in 1939. People still talk about that one.
It was during a heat wave so bad that department store mannequins' heads
actually started to melt in the windows. Can you imagine that? That
one burned up most of Victoria."
Bryson: "So how much at risk are you here?" (King Valley, eastern
Victoria on the southern edge of the Great Dividing Range)
A.H.: It's all in the lap of the gods. Coud be next week, could be ten
years from now, could be never. ------- You are totally at the mercy of
nature in this country, mate. It's just a fact of life."
--------------------------------------------------------------
I have been through some bad brush-fires in California when I lived
there, but nothng like A.H. describes. I have also been involved in a
forest fire in the U.S. Northwest country when I lived there and served
for a week on the firecrew, as a volunteer. So I have some small idea
of what you are describing. My deepest condolances to those who are
caught in this lastest holocaust and my prayers go with them during this
tragic time.
Sincerely;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Australian Sports Joke |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:16:31 -0500 (EST) |
|
I just couldn't help myself!!!!!!
Grand Final -- Australian Rules Football;
A man arriving for the "Grand Final" in Melbourne is surprised to find
the seat beside his empty. Tickets for the "Grand Final" are sold out
weeks in advance and empty seats are unknown. So he says to the man on
the other side of the empty seat, "Excuse me, do you know why there is
no-one in this seat?"
"Oh, it's my wife's," answers the second man,"but I'm afraid she died."
"That's terrible. I'm so sorry."
"Yes, she never missed a match."
"But couldn't you have given the ticket to a friend or relative?"
"Oh no. They're all at the funeral."
Unapologetically Yours;
Marcus Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@bconnex.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 17:36:59 -0500 |
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Salve,
>Marcus Octavius Germanicus at haase@konoko.com wrote:
>
> Thus, the former Draco had chosen to return as a
> privatus, and to avoid politics here, but continue to take part
> in our cultural activities.
I am glad to read this. If this is the case it's great to have him back as a
privatus. Seeing how strongly he feels about cultural activities he most
likely will have much to contribute in this area of our community. I
encourage and welcome this. Although, I do still wonder about the religious
position he held. A citizen who is a priest should be one we know will not
resign anytime in the future. It is a major responsibility that is above
politics.
Still, I will respect his wishes to be a privatus, and hopefully this post
will be my last comment on the issue. When he is here, he as done much, I
hope to see that continue.
Vale,
"Quamquam cupido sit delictum ab suis crebro est mater virtutum"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Curule Aedile of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www25.brinkster.com/canorien/
Gens Claudia Website:
www27.brinkster.com/gensclaudia/
--
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: My sympathies to all |
| From: |
"luciuspompeius" <danielovi@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:01:26 -0000 |
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Salvete omnes.
I wish to add my condolences and affection to the people of Australia
who are currently suffering a tremendous disaster, especially those
affected by this hugh tragedy.
Yours sincerely
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
--- In novaroma@y..., Craig Stevenson <gaiussentius@y...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes, et civies of Australia provincia,
>
> I come before you all tonight to offer my condolences
> to those who have lost their possessions and
> belongings in the terrible bushfires currently raging
> across New South Wales. That such an inhumane act
> could be the agency of a human being is beyond all
> capacity of understanding, with the all of the
> destruction, trauma and anguish that is caused by such
> occurances. The only thing left is to rebuild and try
> to forget such things, though they may leave a lasting
> legacy. I hope that all civies of Australia provincia,
> and indeed all civies of Nova Roma will lend their
> voices in condolence to all of those affected by this
> great disaster.
>
> May the gods watch over us all, bless us, and succor
> those in need.
>
> Valete bene omnes,
>
> Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura
>
> Legatus Australia Medius
>
> http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo!
> - It's My Yahoo! Get your own!
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Propraetorship of provincia Argentina |
| From: |
"luciuspompeius" <danielovi@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:08:07 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes.
I want to express here my wishes to continue in office after Kalends
of March. I already sent a message to the consuls about this, but
also I wanted to state it here publicly.
Valete omnes
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Propraetor provincialis Argentinæ
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Oath of Office as Quaestor |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:27:47 +0100 |
|
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) do hereby solemnly swear
to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco
Valenzano) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to
act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to protect and
defend
the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) further swear to fulfill
the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Curule Aedile to the best
of my abilities. On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence
of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Quaestor
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Provincia Italia
Alme Sol ... Possis Nihil Urbe Roma Visere Maius
Support me as Propraetor Italiae Provinciae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Oath as Scriba |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:32:22 +0100 |
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I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) do hereby solemnly swear
to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco
Valenzano) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to
act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to protect and
defend
the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) further swear to fulfill
the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curatoris Araneum
(M. Octavius Germanicus) to the best
of my abilities. On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence
of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Scriba Curatoris Araneum (M. Octavius
Germanicus) and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Quaestor
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
Provincia Italia
Alme Sol ... Possis Nihil Urbe Roma Visere Maius
Support me as Propraetor Italiae Provinciae
----------------------------------------
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
----------------------------------------
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco |
| From: |
"Milly Jansen" <millys2@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 22:46:12 +0100 |
|
Salve Draco/ Solaris et Salvete omnes!
Now that is what I call a surprise! :-)
Could you please explain to us why you've changed your name from Draco in
M.Octavius Solaris, mi Draco/Solaris?
vale bene,
Agrippina Iulia Germanica
PS A happy New Year for all the cives of NR and their loved ones!
>From: "Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
>To: "Nova Roma Group" <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
>Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:28:58 +0100
>
>Salvete Quirites!
>
>Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius Draco, who
>stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and that he
>didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
>nevertheless he returned: welcome back Draco, now to be known as Marcus
>Octavius Solaris...
>
>
>Vale bene!
>
>Caius Cornelius Puteanus
>www.geocities.com/puteanus/
>www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
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