| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re:new CD |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 01:04:10 +0100 |
|
Franciscus Apulus Caesar omnibus S.P.D.
I want to know if you know websites where I can download roman music. It's
enough little part of song too.
Thank you
Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Quaestor, Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Alme Sol ... Possis Nihil Urbe Roma Visere Maius
Support me as Propraetor Italiae Provinciae
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Slight spelling correction |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:31:30 -0800 |
|
Avete Omnes,
There has been a very slight spelling correction to the Lex Cornelia de
Linguis Publicus.
If no one objects, I would respectfully submit this draft as the
official draft (it is 1 hour and 30 min since the Comitia has been
summoned). I point this out for complete and open disclosure for all
citizens of Nova Roma.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul
I. Due to the increasingly inter macronational nature of the Citizenship
of Nova
Roma, it has become necessary for the official language policy of the
Republic to be
defined, in such a way that acknowledges our historical antecedents,
practical
concerns, and the sensibilities of all of our Citizens. To that end,
this Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicus is adopted.
II. Latin is hereby adopted as the official ceremonial language of Nova
Roma. As
such, it shall be used in rites conducted by the curule magistrates and
appointed
priests of Nova Roma on behalf of the entire nation, as well as other
circumstances
where it may be deemed appropriate.
III. English is hereby adopted as the business language of Nova Roma's
central
government. As such, it shall be used in official communications from
and day-to-day
business conducted by the central government (defined for purposes of
this proviso
as the Senate and non provincial magistrates). Other languages may be
used in such
communications where deemed appropriate, but an English translation must
accompany such communications.
IV. In order to accommodate the Needs of Citizens who do not speak
English, or who
speak English as a Second Language, and in accordance with section IV 9
of the
Constitution the Decuriae Interpretes is established.
1. The Decuriae Interpretes shall consist of ten Interpretes who shall
be
responsible for making official translations of all proposed Leges and
Plebiscita,
and all Edicta and official announcements made by the magistrates of
Nova Roma,
along with all Senatus Consulta. The Interpretes shall also be
responsible for for
providing official translations of all Leges, Plebiscita, Senatus
Consulta, Priestly
Decreta, and Magisterial Edicta in force at the time this lex is passed.
Each of the
Interpretes shall have authority to appoint his own scribae. Should the
position be
vacant, and suitable and willing candidates are available, the Senate
shall have the
authority to appoint interpretes.
2. Each of the Interpretes shall be responsible for one language.
3. The Position of Interpretes Latinitas is established. The Interpretes
Latinitas
shall serve as the President of the Decuriae Interpretes of the Decuriae
Interpretes
and shall
provide aid to magistrates in complying with section II of this lex in
addition to
the duties of all members of the Decuriae Interpretes.
4. Interpretes for the 5 Non English and Latin Languages most widely
spoken in Nova
Roma are hereby established. Until such time as the Senate determines
which
languages are most widely spoken, The Interpretes will provide
translations of the
French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish Languages.
5. The Language that the remaining 4 Interpretes shall provide shall be
chosen by
the Senate of Nova Roma.
V. In the event of linguistic differences between texts. The language
that will be
considered official in terms of interpretation shall be English.
VI. This lex does not effect in any way languages used in official or
unofficial
provincial fora, fora maintained by official Sodalitates, or private
fora (including
but not limited to email lists organized] by private Citizens).
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Census |
| From: |
Shane Evans <marcusafricanus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:52:32 -0800 (PST) |
|
Deadweight is people who are listed as citizens (and
we have about nine of them in our provincia) with
absolutely no method of contacting them. Dead weight
is people who have said they are no longer interested,
but for some reason are still on the census for our
provincia. And I am working on a proposal to the
senate to make it possible for the removal of citizens
with no valid contact information. And before you
start, there will be a "grace period" from the time a
citizen's contact method becomes invalid, in the event
someone has a problem, or changes their email.
M. Scipio Africanus
Propraetor of Lacus Magni
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| Subject: |
AW: [novaroma] membership applications |
| From: |
<3s@hsk-net.de> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 01:28:23 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salve,
that depends on the circumstances. We can approve applications during a couple of days, if the applicant wants to join an existing gens, is over 18 years old and the paterfamilias approves the gens membership immediately.
The main problem is that patres familiae doesn´t approve the gens membership. This can delay applications up to monthes.
Vale
Caius Flavius Diocletianus
Censor
-- Original Nachricht--
Von: cypress100tree <commodus55@hotmail.com>
An: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Senden: 10.02.2002
Betreff: [novaroma] membership applications
Vale new friends, When applying for a citizenship within Nova
Roma,how long is the process before potentially being approved?
Gratias!
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Census |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 04:32:44 -0500 (EST) |
|
Citizens of Nova Roma;
I see nothing wrong with a Census of who we have in Nova Roma, conducted
periodically by Province. But a Census does not necessarily mean
separation of those citizens found wanting in some regard.
My view of "dead weight " is someone who doesn't care about Nova Roma.
The problem of course is that were you to gather all the people
presently members of Nova Roma in one place and ask all those who are
"dead wieght" to raise thier hands, the response would probably be
somewhat unreliable, so people who are "dead wieght" should be judged,
by what they do, and how they do it:
--NR Citizens called away for long periods of time, should notify the
Censors / Provincial Governors that they will not be available for some
period of time;
--NR Citizens engaged in actvities which take them out of the loop of
periodic contact should do the same;
--In April I will be traveling to Europe, and will be gone for about 3-4
weeks, I will notify the list when I leave, and when I return as I have
done many times previously. Some will be pleased at my return, and some
will wish the boat had sunk, but there again we enter into personal
perogatives (Grin!!!!!!!!!!);
--If I must be away for an extended time, and must give up my elected or
appointed position, then I would notify the Consules, Censors, and
Provincial Govenor, let them know how long I expected to be gone,
formally give up my position, and if appropriate provide a person to
take over my tasks, or make recmmendations as I am able and as pertain
to the tasks in question;
--The "Dead Wieght" being discussed here are those whose E-Mail
addresses which no longer respond, as well as no response from the home
address or telephone, with no attempt to contact NR or explain the
problem. Such a person is lost to the NR for all practical purposes,
since no-one can reach them. Therefore, what can they be called but
"Dead Wieght". Yes, I recall the question ---- "is there not a
possibility, that the person will return" Certainly, and that element
tomust be considered, probably on the individual's past activity in NR.
--"Dead Weight" is not, at least to my understanding, simply a person
who would rather listen than talk. It is not a person who has problems
with his computer, nor is it necessarily a person with whom we may
disagree. It is not someone who must be away on his or her private
business, vocation, illness, or family concern. It is not the military
man or long distance truck driver, seaman, or independent aircraft
pilot, scientist on field work, or professor on sabbatical.
No-one wants to "get rid of" any NR Citizens, but we would like to know
about our citizens to some small degree, and have them join us when they
are able, and be knd enough to let us know when they cannot.
Those who no longer want to be included in NR for a variety of reasons,
we would like them to tell us when they leave, not just melt away, and
leave our hard working Censors even more work to determine which of the
above listed categories some of these people fit into.
Several people have discussed the pros and cons of getting rid of the
"dead weight," and I too have wondered at the best way to go about it,
if in fact it must be done. One of our Senators has said that the "Dead
Weight" harms no-one, and helps Nova Roma by the count of our citizens.
A thousand citizens sounds much better than 300 active citizens.
However, recently we have had difficulty in electing our Magistrates
because of the way the ancient laws required the voting to be tabulated,
and the small percentage of Citizens voting as opposed to the number of
citizens registered. We have made some adjustments to that procedure
which we hope will work out. However, the problem stll remains.
At the present time this problem is merely in the talking stage, and
there are no laws governing this area. My suggestion in this is similar
to my previous suggestions for other problem areas--let others know your
views on this situation politely and without a chip on your shoulder.
When a law to govern this action is drawn up, if it is needed and placed
before the people for a vote, there will be plenty of opportunity to
object to or support the proposed law before the voting. Many people
who feel strongly about this situation will have thier say and very
likely the final law, if one is passed at all, will be very conditional,
to the many reasons why citizens are not immediately in touch.
Personnally, I find that those NR citizens who state thier ideas clearly
and concisely without criticism of others, and without making snide,
sarcastic remarks, and without labeling others or calling names, those
are the people who impress me the most, and who probably have clear
ideas on the subject at hand. These are the people that I listen most
closely too, even if I disagree, because they just may have something in
their idea that I have missed.
However, those who cannot be write a polite message, ad who must include
some aspect as mentioned above are probably hot-heads whose ideas are to
be regarded with caution. I don't pay much attention to them simply
because I don't have either the time or inclination to try and sort out
the reasonable part of the argument (if there is one) from the rage,
sarcasm, poor wit, and name-calling that confuses the issue.
These, comments however, are my opinions only, and have no intrinsic
value unless in the saying of them, they should happen to touch upon
those whose feelings are similar.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] membership applications |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 04:43:58 -0500 (EST) |
|
Application for Citizenship depends primarily upon two items--Acceptance
by Pater / Mater familus of your selected Gens to the Censor; whether ot
not there is a vote being conducted. It also depends to some degree
where you are on the Cesors List of Applicants and how much time the
Censor has to devote to the list. This is all assming that you have
chosen you name and Gens with some care. So, in answer to your question
dependent upon those above items mentioned it could take as little as a
week, or in my case it took about three months and three reminders.
However, the Censors have streamlined thier procedures much and much
since the days when I was an applicant. Enjoy the List, get invlved
where you can and where your interest lies, do some research, and
writeit up, become an expert in your area of interest, and review all
the Sodalitas for a possible incluson when you recieve you citizenship.
Be patient, communicate, and use both the list and the Website.
Marcus Minucius Audens
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Return |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 04:56:47 -0500 (EST) |
|
Of Course I remember you!!! In your absence I have made you the
Praefectus of Italy and Eastern Europe. I tried to send you a message
previously, but apparently the message did not get through!!
I give you a hearty welcome home, and my personal congratulations for
your efforts in the military of your country. I am proud of all those
who serve thier country in an unselfish way.
I drink a bumper of wine to your return, as I am sure your famly will
do, and I look forward to continuing our work in Egressus.
Marcus Minucius Audens
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Sinicus as a Tribune candidate |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 06:28:09 EST |
|
In a message dated 2/10/02 2:33:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lsicinius@yahoo.com writes:
> Ave Quirites,
>
> I Stand before you in a whitened Toga as a candidate
> for Tribune of the Plebs.
>
> L. Sicinius Drusus
>
>
Salvete!
As many of you know Lucius Sicinius had to withdraw from his last candidacy
because of illness within his family. I am heartened to see his return and
encourage all Plebs to vote for this man. His knowledge of Roman history is
extensive, and he understands the Nova Roma mission, and he is a nice guy as
well. He will make an excellent Tribune.
Valete,
Q. Fabius Maximus
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Census |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <pokrock@aol.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 02:32:41 -0000 |
|
--- In novaroma@y..., Shane Evans <marcusafricanus@y...> wrote:
> Deadweight is people who are listed as citizens (and
> we have about nine of them in our provincia) with
> absolutely no method of contacting them. Dead weight
> is people who have said they are no longer interested,
> but for some reason are still on the census for our
> provincia. And I am working on a proposal to the
> senate to make it possible for the removal of citizens
> with no valid contact information. And before you
> start, there will be a "grace period" from the time a
> citizen's contact method becomes invalid, in the event
> someone has a problem, or changes their email.
>
> M. Scipio Africanus
> Propraetor of Lacus Magni
Salve,
I respectfully disagree with the idea of "purging" the census even
through promulgated law or magisterial decree for two reasons, the
second being the most serious reason.
1) The "dead weight" is not harming anything, unless they magically
appear come voting time then disappear into the woodwork again. If
that's the case (and I am not saying it is happening) then there
needs to be a lot more than a purging.....
2) The potential existing for the removal of persons for political
reasons (ie rival for office, vocal dissent).
As for those you've mentioned stating that they are no longer
interested if you have enough witnesses to that effect (three I
believe is the number prescribed) then that would/could constitute
renounciation of citizenship and after the 9 day grace period....
While I understand the desire for an accurate census (after all it is
a Roman thing <G>) with the potential to abuse this ability for
political reasons I would have to vote against such a law. The
Constitution states that it must be by law. Strictly speaking the
Constitution defines law as lex, not a magistarial edicta nor Senatus
Consultas.
Pax,
Quintus Cassius Calvus
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Taxes and Timetable |
| From: |
Centurion M Bianchius Antonius <imperialreign@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:25:17 -0800 (PST) |
|
Salve,
I was wondering why the timetable for collecting the
taxes is so short. From announcement to final
collection, it is less than 3 weeks....
I knew we were getting taxed and to except it soon,
even though it had been delayed, but I figured I would
have at least a month, perhaps 2 before the deadline.
Just wondering.
Thanks
Marcus Bianchius Antonius
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Taxes and Timetable |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 06:54:34 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salve Marce Bianchi,
> I was wondering why the timetable for collecting the
> taxes is so short. From announcement to final
> collection, it is less than 3 weeks....
The date was set last year. It took longer than we expected to
get all the mechanisms in place this year, mainly because this
was the first time this has been done. Only since late December
have we known who this year's Consuls and Quaestores would be;
after that was established, the Quaestores explored issues of
bonding, international currency conversions, international post
office boxes; then we had to obtain the PayPal.com account
information from last year's Quaestores, make some sample payments,
etcetera.
In about a week the Senate will consider extending the deadline
by one month, and I think it likely that this will pass. If it
does we'll send out another announcement to all citizens.
Vale, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Proposed budget |
| From: |
Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@inwave.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:43:28 -0600 |
|
Avete Omnes,
I've taken a look at the proposed budget as posted to the Nova Roma website (
http://www.novaroma.org/aerarium_saturni/budget2755.html )
We are looking at less money than I would have available as committee chairman for one of the
larger re-enactment events I used to help run. Heck, we had 4 or 5 times that as the annual
budget for our 300 member SCA chapter in Nebraska (USA).
Amazing how frugal it is to run this nation of ours. I think we'll look back someday with
fondness of our small size, fiscally and physically.
--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Cives Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Legatus Occidentalis pro Magna Lacus
Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html
Known as Lord Alasdair Morgan of Clann Gunn,
by discerning SCAdians, somewhere.
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Tax Reminders |
| From: |
"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:45:43 -0000 |
|
Avete Omnes,
Please remember to include your Roman name when remitting taxes.
This will ensure we can give you proper credit and send you an e-mail
acknowledgement.
It would also be helpful if you would identify your provencia.
Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
Consular Quaestor
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Tax Reminders |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:48:31 -0500 (EST) |
|
In regard to the Roman Name and Provincia,I should have done both had
there bee a place on the Pay Pal format to do so, I do not recall seeing
such, except perhaps the extra information at the end, however, with my
luck, the answer would be mailed to my home in care of MMA.
If you need extra information, may I respectfuly suggest that you make a
place for it in the application, where the requirement is clearly
understood as requested but optional. Please remember, that not all Web
Users are experts at it, or even in many cases amateurs. I am certainly
not!!!
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Tax Reminders |
| From: |
"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:19:35 -0000 |
|
Salvete Marce Minici et al,
Paypal has a "comments" section where the required information can be
entered.
Not to worry...I knew it was you ;-)
Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
--- In novaroma@y..., MarcusAudens@w... wrote:
> In regard to the Roman Name and Provincia,I should have done both
had
> there bee a place on the Pay Pal format to do so, I do not recall
seeing
> such, except perhaps the extra information at the end, however,
with my
> luck, the answer would be mailed to my home in care of MMA.
>
> If you need extra information, may I respectfuly suggest that you
make a
> place for it in the application, where the requirement is clearly
> understood as requested but optional. Please remember, that not
all Web
> Users are experts at it, or even in many cases amateurs. I am
certainly
> not!!!
>
> Respectfully;
>
> Marcus Minucius Audens
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Tax Reminders |
| From: |
"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:26:36 -0000 |
|
Salvete Marce Minici et Omnes,
Paypal has a "comments" section where the required information (Roman
name and Province)can be entered. Unfortunately, the standard Paypal
entry format cannot be customized (at least not to my knowledge).
Not to worry, mi Audens, I recognized your marconational name ;-).
Thanks for your payment.
If anyone has questions about payment of taxes, the Consular
Quaestores can be reached at:
payments@novaroma.org
Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
Consular Quaestor
--- In novaroma@y..., MarcusAudens@w... wrote:
> In regard to the Roman Name and Provincia,I should have done both
had
> there bee a place on the Pay Pal format to do so, I do not recall
seeing
> such, except perhaps the extra information at the end, however,
with my
> luck, the answer would be mailed to my home in care of MMA.
>
> If you need extra information, may I respectfuly suggest that you
make a
> place for it in the application, where the requirement is clearly
> understood as requested but optional. Please remember, that not
all Web
> Users are experts at it, or even in many cases amateurs. I am
certainly
> not!!!
>
> Respectfully;
>
> Marcus Minucius Audens
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] The Comitia Plebis Tributa are Convened |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:46:08 +0000 (GMT) |
|
Gnaeus Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.
Ex Officio Tribunorum Plebis.
According to the laws of Nova Roma, I summon the Comitia Plebis Tributa
to decide upon the following issues:
I. The election of three new Tribuni Plebis, according to the
Constitution of Nova Roma (paragraphs III.D. and IV.A.7.) and the Lex
Vedia de Tribuni.
The candidates are:
- Antonius Corvus Septimius
- Manius Villius Limitanus
- Claudius Salix Davianus
- Lucius Sicinius Drusus
As there are no candidates at all for the vacant position of aedilis
plebis, the election for this position will have to be postponed.
II. The approval of the Lex Labiena de Intercessione, with its full
text provided below:
"LEX LABIENA DE INTERCESSIONE
I. Pursuant to fulfill what is ruled in Paragraph IV.A.7.a.3 of the
Constitution, this lex is enacted to define the process by which
tribuni plebis may use their power of intercessio.
II. A tribunus plebis may use intercessio by making an official
announcement to at least one of Nova Roma’s main communications fora
(as defined by the Constitution) within 72 hours of the announcement of
the item or action to be vetoed. The items and actions which tribuni
plebis may use intercessio against are defined in paragraph IV.A.7.a.1
of the Constitution.
III. The issuance of intercessio shall place the item or action on
hold, preventing it from being in any way effective, for 72 hours from
the time at which the intercessio is announced.
IV. During this 72 hour period, other tribuni plebis may officially
announce their agreement or disagreement with the particular use of
intercessio.
IV.A. Such announcements shall be made to at least one of Nova
Roma’s main communications fora, and shall be made to the forum in
which the original announcement of intercessio occurred.
IV.B. A tribunus plebis who chooses not to state his agreement or
disagreement with the use of intercessio shall be assumed to have
abstained, and his abstention shall be counted neither for nor against
the use of intercessio.
IV.C. The initial use of intercessio shall be assumed to be a
statement of agreement with itself. Therefore, the tribunus plebis who
initially issued the intercessio in question need not state his
agreement with his own action.
V. Should more tribuni plebis agree than disagree with the use of
intercessio in question, it shall stand, and the action which
was vetoed shall be void.
Otherwise, the action which was vetoed shall be allowed to take
effect starting immediately at the end of the period allotted for
tribuni plebis to state their agreement or disagreement."
The timing of this Comitia will be as follows:
11 Feb. -> Contio begins
16 Feb. -> Voting starts
24 Feb. -> Voting ends
=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] The Comitia Plebis Tributa are Convened |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:49:39 -0800 |
|
Ave,
You forgot Lucius Mauricius Procopius.
Vael,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul
----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur
To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Cc: NovaRomaAnnounce@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: [novaroma] The Comitia Plebis Tributa are Convened
Gnaeus Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.
Ex Officio Tribunorum Plebis.
According to the laws of Nova Roma, I summon the Comitia Plebis Tributa
to decide upon the following issues:
I. The election of three new Tribuni Plebis, according to the
Constitution of Nova Roma (paragraphs III.D. and IV.A.7.) and the Lex
Vedia de Tribuni.
The candidates are:
- Antonius Corvus Septimius
- Manius Villius Limitanus
- Claudius Salix Davianus
- Lucius Sicinius Drusus
As there are no candidates at all for the vacant position of aedilis
plebis, the election for this position will have to be postponed.
II. The approval of the Lex Labiena de Intercessione, with its full
text provided below:
"LEX LABIENA DE INTERCESSIONE
I. Pursuant to fulfill what is ruled in Paragraph IV.A.7.a.3 of the
Constitution, this lex is enacted to define the process by which
tribuni plebis may use their power of intercessio.
II. A tribunus plebis may use intercessio by making an official
announcement to at least one of Nova Roma's main communications fora
(as defined by the Constitution) within 72 hours of the announcement of
the item or action to be vetoed. The items and actions which tribuni
plebis may use intercessio against are defined in paragraph IV.A.7.a.1
of the Constitution.
III. The issuance of intercessio shall place the item or action on
hold, preventing it from being in any way effective, for 72 hours from
the time at which the intercessio is announced.
IV. During this 72 hour period, other tribuni plebis may officially
announce their agreement or disagreement with the particular use of
intercessio.
IV.A. Such announcements shall be made to at least one of Nova
Roma's main communications fora, and shall be made to the forum in
which the original announcement of intercessio occurred.
IV.B. A tribunus plebis who chooses not to state his agreement or
disagreement with the use of intercessio shall be assumed to have
abstained, and his abstention shall be counted neither for nor against
the use of intercessio.
IV.C. The initial use of intercessio shall be assumed to be a
statement of agreement with itself. Therefore, the tribunus plebis who
initially issued the intercessio in question need not state his
agreement with his own action.
V. Should more tribuni plebis agree than disagree with the use of
intercessio in question, it shall stand, and the action which
was vetoed shall be void.
Otherwise, the action which was vetoed shall be allowed to take
effect starting immediately at the end of the period allotted for
tribuni plebis to state their agreement or disagreement."
The timing of this Comitia will be as follows:
11 Feb. -> Contio begins
16 Feb. -> Voting starts
24 Feb. -> Voting ends
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Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Slight spelling correction |
| From: |
Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br> |
| Date: |
11 Feb 2002 20:52:27 -0200 |
|
Em Dom, 2002-02-10 às 22:31, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix escreveu:
> Avete Omnes,
>
> There has been a very slight spelling correction to the Lex Cornelia de
> Linguis Publicus.
>
> If no one objects, I would respectfully submit this draft as the
> official draft (it is 1 hour and 30 min since the Comitia has been
> summoned). I point this out for complete and open disclosure for all
> citizens of Nova Roma.
>
Salve,
as you know, I am totally opposed to this law, because it ends NovaRoma
as I have seen it: a Universal Community of people loving Roma. Giving
legal precendance on one vernacular language over all others is quite
the opposite of universality.
I think there should be no legal technicality problem in accepting this
draft, but I feel that what happened should be interpreted as a bad omen
send by the Gods. And I am quite sure that it would have been treated
like that in ancient Roma.
Please retire all this law and take the omens again, and perhaps the
Gods will show the way to a World Wide Rome.
Vale,
Manius Villius Limitanus
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Consul
>
> I. Due to the increasingly inter macronational nature of the Citizenship
>
> of Nova
> Roma, it has become necessary for the official language policy of the
> Republic to be
> defined, in such a way that acknowledges our historical antecedents,
> practical
> concerns, and the sensibilities of all of our Citizens. To that end,
> this Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicus is adopted.
>
> II. Latin is hereby adopted as the official ceremonial language of Nova
> Roma. As
> such, it shall be used in rites conducted by the curule magistrates and
> appointed
> priests of Nova Roma on behalf of the entire nation, as well as other
> circumstances
> where it may be deemed appropriate.
>
> III. English is hereby adopted as the business language of Nova Roma's
> central
> government. As such, it shall be used in official communications from
> and day-to-day
> business conducted by the central government (defined for purposes of
> this proviso
> as the Senate and non provincial magistrates). Other languages may be
> used in such
> communications where deemed appropriate, but an English translation must
>
> accompany such communications.
>
> IV. In order to accommodate the Needs of Citizens who do not speak
> English, or who
> speak English as a Second Language, and in accordance with section IV 9
> of the
> Constitution the Decuriae Interpretes is established.
>
> 1. The Decuriae Interpretes shall consist of ten Interpretes who shall
> be
> responsible for making official translations of all proposed Leges and
> Plebiscita,
> and all Edicta and official announcements made by the magistrates of
> Nova Roma,
> along with all Senatus Consulta. The Interpretes shall also be
> responsible for for
> providing official translations of all Leges, Plebiscita, Senatus
> Consulta, Priestly
> Decreta, and Magisterial Edicta in force at the time this lex is passed.
>
> Each of the
> Interpretes shall have authority to appoint his own scribae. Should the
> position be
> vacant, and suitable and willing candidates are available, the Senate
> shall have the
> authority to appoint interpretes.
>
> 2. Each of the Interpretes shall be responsible for one language.
>
> 3. The Position of Interpretes Latinitas is established. The Interpretes
>
> Latinitas
> shall serve as the President of the Decuriae Interpretes of the Decuriae
> Interpretes
> and shall
> provide aid to magistrates in complying with section II of this lex in
> addition to
> the duties of all members of the Decuriae Interpretes.
>
> 4. Interpretes for the 5 Non English and Latin Languages most widely
> spoken in Nova
> Roma are hereby established. Until such time as the Senate determines
> which
> languages are most widely spoken, The Interpretes will provide
> translations of the
> French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish Languages.
>
> 5. The Language that the remaining 4 Interpretes shall provide shall be
>
> chosen by
> the Senate of Nova Roma.
>
> V. In the event of linguistic differences between texts. The language
> that will be
> considered official in terms of interpretation shall be English.
>
> VI. This lex does not effect in any way languages used in official or
> unofficial
> provincial fora, fora maintained by official Sodalitates, or private
> fora (including
> but not limited to email lists organized] by private Citizens).
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] The Comitia Plebis Tributa are Convened |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:37:23 +0000 (GMT) |
|
Salvete Quirites; et salve, consul Sulla.
--- "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ave,
>
> You forgot Lucius Mauricius Procopius.
>
> Vael,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Consul
Yes I did. Stupid me! :-).
I offer my apologies to Procopius. I will correct that immediately.
=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] The Comitia Plebis Tributa are Convened (correction) |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:43:54 +0000 (GMT) |
|
Gnaeus Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.
Ex Officio Tribunorum Plebis.
According to the laws of Nova Roma, I summon the Comitia Plebis
Tributa to decide upon the following issues:
I. The election of three new Tribuni Plebis, according to the
Constitution of Nova Roma (paragraphs III.D. and IV.A.7.) and the Lex
Vedia de Tribuni.
The candidates are:
- Antonius Corvus Septimius
- Manius Villius Limitanus
- Claudius Salix Davianus
- Lucius Sicinius Drusus
- Lucius Maucicius Procopius
II. The election of one Aedilis Plebis:
Strictly speaking, the candidacy of Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus
for this position has reached me out of the planned time. However, in
order to avoid an additional voting period, I think it is reasonable to
include his name on the ballot for this election.
III. The approval of the Lex Labiena de Intercessione, with its full
text provided below:
"LEX LABIENA DE INTERCESSIONE
I. Pursuant to fulfill what is ruled in Paragraph IV.A.7.a.3 of the
Constitution, this lex is enacted to define the process by which
tribuni plebis may use their power of intercessio.
II. A tribunus plebis may use intercessio by making an official
announcement to at least one of Nova Roma's main communications fora
(as defined by the Constitution) within 72 hours of the announcement
of the item or action to be vetoed. The items and actions which
tribuni
plebis may use intercessio against are defined in paragraph
IV.A.7.a.1 of the Constitution.
III. The issuance of intercessio shall place the item or action on
hold, preventing it from being in any way effective, for 72 hours from
the time at which the intercessio is announced.
IV. During this 72 hour period, other tribuni plebis may officially
announce their agreement or disagreement with the particular use of
intercessio.
IV.A. Such announcements shall be made to at least one of Nova
Roma's main communications fora, and shall be made to the forum in
which the original announcement of intercessio occurred.
IV.B. A tribunus plebis who chooses not to state his agreement or
disagreement with the use of intercessio shall be assumed to have
abstained, and his abstention shall be counted neither for nor
against the use of intercessio.
IV.C. The initial use of intercessio shall be assumed to be a
statement of agreement with itself. Therefore, the tribunus plebis
who initially issued the intercessio in question need not state his
agreement with his own action.
V. Should more tribuni plebis agree than disagree with the use of
intercessio in question, it shall stand, and the action which
was vetoed shall be void.
Otherwise, the action which was vetoed shall be allowed to take
effect starting immediately at the end of the period allotted for
tribuni plebis to state their agreement or disagreement."
The timing of this Comitia will be as follows:
11 Feb. -> Contio begins
16 Feb. -> Voting starts
24 Feb. -> Voting ends
=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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