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Subject:	[novaroma] I sell little statue
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:11:01 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar omnibus S.P.D.

I would like sell some little iron statues of Octavianus and Marcus Aurelius
but I would know how many people are interested to buy their before create a
commercial website.
I have publish a little page with the image and the features of the statues
on http://italia.novaroma.org/macellum
Please if someone of you is interest, contact me soon.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Quaestor, Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Detailed election results
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:00:30 -0600 (CST)

Salve Mani Villi,

> I think that it would be most interresting if we could have a detailed
> report for the elections:
>
> A by circonscription (tribe or century) result for all items.

For tribes, this is certainly reasonable, and I will begin publishing
the results in that manner.

For centuries, however, this cannot be done for some time yet. Many
centuries have only one or two persons who vote regularly, and thus
if the detailed results are published, it will be known how that
individual has voted.

For example, it is public knowledge that I am in Century #9, as
can be seen on the web site. Thus if the results indicate that
Century #9 voted for a certain candidate, particularly if
Century #9 cast only a single vote in a multi-candidate race,
then it would be known how I voted. The same is true for any
active voter in the first or second class.

> This would be consistent with both the actual democratic process in
> other nations
> and the ancient process in Roma. The results were known century by
> century or tribe by tribe, it would only be normal to have this here in
> NR

Next month, I intend to introduce a law that will reduce the number
of centuries. After that occurs, even the smallest centuries will
likely have more than one active voter (assuming there are sufficient
assidui), and we can move towards that ideal.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Forward: Imperial Objects Query
From:	"fraelov" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:08:44 -0000

Salve,
I have founded this in my latin encyclopedia: (I hope you are able to
understand my bad english !-)

> (1) DIADEM (some sort of Imperial head band?)

It was regal symbol of Phersian kings and it was composed by a red
line with white elements and hol knoted on the tiara.
It was used by Alexander and greek Kings too. In this period it was
white with gold elements and taken in the head.
In roman period it was the symbol of absolute power and it was used
just from the emperors after Aurelianus. It was composed by a red
line with pearls and gems. Constantinus used it as imperial symbol
reserved only to living kings.

> (2) CHLAMYS (some sort of cloak?)

Little greek cloak holden on the right shoulder. The origins are
tessalic. It was of travellers, hunters, knights, soldiers. In
ellenistic period the red cloack was regal dress. From Plautus and
Cicero too.

> (3) MAPPA (something symbolically held in the Emperor's hand, seen
on
> coins?)

Quintilianus and Suetonius write about a cloth used to start the ludi
in the circum.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar


Subject:	[novaroma] Roman Games for computers
From:	"Cl. Sl. Davianus" <davius_sanctex@terra.es>
Date:	Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:44:55 +0100

Salvete Cives:

(hinc est magna enumeratio ludi per computatorem)

Caesar I (free downloadable etsi antiquulus saltem agit in quovis PC)
Caesar II
Caesar III
Creati a Sierra & Impressions Games:
http://www.impressionsgames.com/caesar.html
http://www.impressionsgames.com/games/c2
http://www.caesar3.com
http://caesar3.sierra.com

Age Of Empires I
Age Of Empires I: Rise Of Rome expansion
Age Of Empires II (more about medieval civilizations) + expansion
Age Of mythology (soon to be released)
Distributi a Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/age
http://www.microsoft.com/games/PC/ageofmythology.asp

Zeus: Master Of Olympus
Zeus official expansion: Poseidon
A Sierra & Impressions Games:
http://zeus.impressionsgames.com
http://poseidon.impressionsgames.com

Pharaoh
Pharaoh expansion: Cleopatra
A Sierra & Impressions Games:
http://pharaoh.sierra.com
http://cleopatra.impressionsgames.com

Sid Meier's Civilization I
Sid Meier's Civilization II
Sid Meier's Civilization III
Ab Infogrames Entertainment:
http://www.civ3.com

Empire Earth
Ab Sierra:
http://empireearth.sierra.com

Centurion :
http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Centurion%3A+Defender+of+Rome

Cohort II : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1378

Annals of Rome: http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=59

Caesar : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1379

Circus Maximus : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=218

Hannibal : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=490

Hoplites : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=2042

Pharaoh (alius haud famosus ludus a Sierra) :
http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1317

Walls of Rome : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1457

I supposse that many of our citizens know about all this, but if to someone is this list of interest (it is a contribution of SVR)

Cl. Sl. Davianus

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Detailed election results
From:	Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br>
Date:	18 Feb 2002 22:17:56 -0300

Em Seg, 2002-02-18 às 22:00, Marcus Octavius Germanicus escreveu:
> Salve Mani Villi,
>
> > I think that it would be most interresting if we could have a detailed
> > report for the elections:
> >
> > A by circonscription (tribe or century) result for all items.
>
> For tribes, this is certainly reasonable, and I will begin publishing
> the results in that manner.
>
> For centuries, however, this cannot be done for some time yet. Many
> centuries have only one or two persons who vote regularly, and thus
> if the detailed results are published, it will be known how that
> individual has voted.
>
> For example, it is public knowledge that I am in Century #9, as
> can be seen on the web site. Thus if the results indicate that
> Century #9 voted for a certain candidate, particularly if
> Century #9 cast only a single vote in a multi-candidate race,
> then it would be known how I voted. The same is true for any
> active voter in the first or second class.
>

OK, I understand that. Could you publish the number of votes cast per
century (without the result)? In order for all to see it is the case for
all 1st and 2nd class citizens, and not only for some.

> > This would be consistent with both the actual democratic process in
> > other nations
> > and the ancient process in Roma. The results were known century by
> > century or tribe by tribe, it would only be normal to have this here in
> > NR
>
> Next month, I intend to introduce a law that will reduce the number
> of centuries. After that occurs, even the smallest centuries will
> likely have more than one active voter (assuming there are sufficient
> assidui), and we can move towards that ideal.
>

Absolutely great, thanks a lot.

Vale,

Manius Villius Limitanus

> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus
> Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
> Curator Araneum et Senator
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Detailed election results
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:53:31 -0600 (CST)

Salve Mani Villi,

> OK, I understand that. Could you publish the number of votes cast per
> century (without the result)? In order for all to see it is the case for
> all 1st and 2nd class citizens, and not only for some.

I can't do this for previous elections, as the data is gone and difficult
to reconstruct, but I could do this for the current election.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject:	AW: Re: [novaroma] Romans and Scythians
From:	<3s@hsk-net.de>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:25:49 -0600 (CST)

Salvete,

the term "Scythians" appears more often in later roman history. As far as I know, this people had nothing in common with the scythians of early antiquity, these were absorbed by the Sarmatians, as Q. Fabius pointed out.

Sythians in later roman texts were people of the Goth tribes, living around the black sea.

There was also a Scythae Legio Palatina listed in the Notitia Dignitatum, as part of the 2nd central mobile army of the eastern empire.

Valete
Caius Flavius Diocletianus

-- Original Nachricht--
Von: tasia <tasia43@attbi.com>
An: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Senden: 18.02.2002
Betreff: Re: [novaroma] Romans and Scythians

I have read a few articles that speak of Roman/Scythian interaction, that is why
I was confused because some people list the Scythian historical timeline ending
around the time the Romans were rising, therefore lending to the idea that there
could have been some crossover. Even when the Sarmatians became stronger, I
have read that there were still remnant societies of Scythians, although they
had been pushed far North.

But I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

My whole goal with this question is some research I am doing on Amazons. If the
Greeks interacted with the Amazons and the Romans interacted with the Greeks
then somehow the Romans should have had some interaction with them. There is
some question as to whether the Amazons were Scythians or Sarmatians as far as I
can tell, but I have read that the Romans did write about seeing the women
warriors.

Any ideas?

tasia

Salvete,

But weren't there Skythians in Atilla's Army? I read
an excerpt the other day by someone called Blossius
(not sure where...think it was a journal) and he
referred to the army being composed of Skythians and
Sarmatians...or could this just be a confusion?

Valete bene,

Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura

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> Was there ever a time where Romans and Scythians
would have interacted? If 
> so, what time frame would that have been? 
> 
 
No, The Skythians were in the process of being
absorbed by the Sarmations 
during the Republic. One could argue since the
Partha tribe was influced by 
the Sacae, and Dahae Skythians before eliminating the
Eastern Selecuid 
kingdom, that they were Skythian related but their
other ethnic differences, 
make such a distinction impossible. 
 
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Romans and Scythians
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:28:39 EST

In a message dated 2/18/02 8:15:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,
gaiussentius@yahoo.com.au writes:

> But weren't there Skythians in Atilla's Army? I read
> an excerpt the other day by someone called Blossius
> (not sure where...think it was a journal) and he
> referred to the army being composed of Skythians and
> Sarmatians...or could this just be a confusion?
>

No Blossius was an Alan, part of the Sarmation tribal confederations. The
Sarmations considered themselves cousins to the Skythians, probably because
both were horse cultures but, based on their language and other customs they
were not.

Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:41:49 EST

In a message dated 2/18/02 1:53:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
imperialreign@yahoo.com writes:

> Roman
> > > war chariots formed the initial ruts, which
> > everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.
> Since
> > the chariots were made for (or by) Imperial Rome, they all had the same
> > wheel spacing.

I have heard this before. It is false. Romans never had war chariots. The
Early Etruscans did, but they had been in disuse by the time Rome was growing
in power. Check your facts.
If Rome had any influence on road design it was making all Roman Roads wide
enough to accommodate a file six men abreast, which the standard Roman legio
marching formation.

Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] An inquiry about the composition centuries
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:51:47 EST

In a message dated 2/18/02 2:32:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
davius_sanctex@terra.es writes:

> The actual system:
> (a) terribily favours certain prominent persons.
> (b) undervalore the vote of some active citizens (these allocated in
> superpopulated centuries)
>
>

Salvete.

Because Rome's leading citizens were rich and powerful, our prominment
citizens are committed to Nova Roma and in return they are powerful.
We cannot use wealth to determine our classes, like old Rome, so we judge
committment.
Committed members of this micronation are to be worthy of greater auctoritas
then not so committed people.
Our centuries are set up to reflect this as you correctly pointed out.

Is this fair? Certainly. You want to succeed here in NR, you will have to
apply yourself to service of the micronation. In return the micronation will
reward you.

Quid pro quid.

Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	"Gaius Cornelius Publicus" <gaius-cornelius-publicus@attbi.com>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:09:53 -0800

Everyone knows this was an urban legend. It's still funny!!! Y'know, a
*joke*! :)

Heck at over 12' diameter and 150' length the SRB's for the shuttle are not
being shipped by train through any tunnels.

And the shuttle being the "most advanced transportation system"? NASA
wouldn't even argue that, what with their research into magnetic levitation
(MAGLEV) and VASIMR (VAriable Specific Impulse Magenetoplasma Rocket)
propulsion technologies. :-)

Perhaps instead of facts one should check their humor-o-meter, because,
heck, I am an anal-retentive scientist type and *I* found the posting rather
funny. ;)

Publicus

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From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com <qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com>
To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma

>In a message dated 2/18/02 1:53:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>imperialreign@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>> Roman
>> > > war chariots formed the initial ruts, which
>> > everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.
>> Since
>> > the chariots were made for (or by) Imperial Rome, they all had the
same
>> > wheel spacing.
>
>I have heard this before. It is false. Romans never had war chariots.
The
>Early Etruscans did, but they had been in disuse by the time Rome was
growing
>in power. Check your facts.
>If Rome had any influence on road design it was making all Roman Roads wide
>enough to accommodate a file six men abreast, which the standard Roman
legio
>marching formation.
>
>Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	Vesta Antonia Aurelia <optia_vesta@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 06:40:00 -0800 (PST)

--- Gaius Cornelius Publicus <gaius-cornelius-publicus@attbi.com>
wrote:
> heck, I am an anal-retentive scientist type and *I* found the
> posting rather funny. ;)
>
> Publicus

Salvete,

I entirely agree that it's funny, Publicus. The first time one hears
it. It's the 30th or 40th time that it's spread as Truth that it
becomes vexing.

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Subject:	[novaroma] Attention voters! Invalid voter codes
From:	"Martins-Esteves" <esteves@compuland.com.br>
Date:	Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:20:53 -0300

Salvete Cives!

The civis with the voter tracking numbers 14033, 13032, 12067 has a malformed or invalid voter code.
The civis with the voter tracking number 13045 has a malformed or invalid voter code.

If you have a problem, please go to your profile page on the Nova Roma website to get your Voter Code, or contact the Censors.

Valete

Titus Horatius Atticus, Rogator

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:21:37 -0500 (EST)

This is a great example of a whimsical story based on misinformation and
repeated again and again, by those who haven't the slightest idea, about
what they are talking about.

Yes , it is amusing (slightly) until you consider the continuing
willigness to flood the mailboxes of the world with this kind of trash.
At best it is slightly amusing (the first time) at worst, it is an
indication of the lack of historical ability of the sender, and reflects
in an international situation on the stupidity of the host nation.

Marcus Minucius Audens


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:41:21 -0600 (CST)

Salve Marce Minuci,

> At best it is slightly amusing (the first time) at worst, it is an
> indication of the lack of historical ability of the sender, and reflects
> in an international situation on the stupidity of the host nation.

That is rather harsh. The story is merely a harmless bit of fluff;
he passed it on as an interesting diversion with a somewhat
Roman-related theme. It has been pointed out that there are
some flaws in the story, and it should not be taken seriously. That
should be sufficient response. Let us not discourage conversation
here by being overly condemnatory.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:22:35 -0500 (EST)

Marcus;

Well, I don't consider it harmless at all. It has appeared in my
mailbox about 50 times, because everyone who knows that I am interested
in Roman History, has to send it to me and ask if that is really
true!!!!!

I get the same thing about ,"balls on a brass monkey", because the story
is naval related, and a large variety of other stupid "logical"
progression "must have beens" which do not have thier basis anywhere
near historical fact.

You know as well as I do that this micronation was created for the
purpose of studying Roman Culture, not passing "fluff." The more we
allow that, the more people depart from us as not worthy to hold thier
attention. A gentleman just made that announcement yesterday, that he
withdrew his application for citizenship from the Censors, because of
the "fantasy and political argument found on the Main List." He has
indicated that he wishes to remain with the "Socci" of the Militarium,
but he is the 16th member in the Socci in somethig like six months that
has made that decision. We advertse the "Socci" only to new people who
want toget immediately involved or to those who have left Nova Roma, or
to those who the Censors have refused to admit, and are still
interested in the Roman Military.

Considering the above, I don't feel what I said was harsh at all.
Maximus, told the guy to 'Check His Facts." I have a limited Mail Box,
and I do not need that kind of input. Neither does anyone else who is a
student of Roman History and Culture. It is hard enough to weed out the
truth from the deliberate lies, inconsistancies, and cover-ups that were
resorted to in the classical period. I don't think we need any
additional "fluff" to confuse the NR Citizens who want to learn in
today's NR.

Respectfully;

Marcus Audens

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	StarVVreck@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:27:49 EST

In a message dated 2/19/02 3:42:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, haase@konoko.net
writes:

> lack of historical ability of the sender

Actually, I was under the impression, from some "Children's" books I've
bought at a Library Clearence Sale, that the Romans did use Chariots for
scouting and to transport messages quickly. But not in Battle

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:51:51 -0500 (EST)

Master StarVVReck (do you have a name??);

Actually the phrase that you attribute to our Honored Senior Consul, was
written by myself. Much of what is written in chldren's books are taken
not from Prmary Sources, but rather from Secondary Sources which are
always suspect. Sometimes, in order to get a Child's book into print,
an author will resort to Hollywood for his data. Movies are also
referred to a Secondary Sources, and publishers are generally not
greatly interested in historical authenticity in Chilren's Libraries.

The above is why I am not a serious historical author; I simply do not
have the time to do the adequate research in Primary Sources . I use
trusted Secondary Sources for the most part, which have been carefully
checked to address an accurate historical piece to the Main List more
than a very few times a year. Even then, on occasion, I am reminded that
there are some glitches in what I present, because of new discoveries,
various translation differences, and simply a different view of a
historical happening by another historian, which occurs in virtually
every aspect of historical, and archaelogical study.

Marcus Minucus Audens


Subject:	[novaroma] Attention voter (#14059, #13059 )
From:	"Martins-Esteves" <esteves@compuland.com.br>
Date:	Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:01:40 -0300

Salvete Cives!

The civis with the voter tracking numbers #14059, #13059 has a malformed or invalid voter code.

Please remember that the codes are formed by three letters and three numbers.

If you have a problem, please go to your profile page on the Nova Roma website to get your Voter Code, or contact the Censors.

Valete

Titus Horatius Atticus, Rogator

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Romans using Chariots - scouting and transporting messages.
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:18:36 EST

In a message dated 2/19/02 1:31:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
StarVVreck@aol.com writes:

> "Children's" books I've
> bought at a Library Clearence Sale, that the Romans did use Chariots for
> scouting and to transport messages quickly. But not in Battle

Oops another Hollywood myth.

Consider: Why would you use a system that does not operate well in rough
terrain, is a waste of horseflesh, and quite noticeable. Once horses were
bred strong enough to carry a warrior, the whole reason of chariot as a
weapon involved for war, becomes pointless except as a novelty item as
scythed chariots, or an attention getter and battle transport for Celts.
The only mention we have of chariot and the military was the Triumph, which
was adopted from the distant past from the Etruscans. This shows that the
City's general may have commanded from a chariot. The Romans retained the
tradition until the Principate.

Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br>
Date:	19 Feb 2002 19:01:25 -0300

Em Ter, 2002-02-19 às 18:27, StarVVreck@aol.com escreveu:
> In a message dated 2/19/02 3:42:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, haase@konoko.net
> writes:
>
>
> > lack of historical ability of the sender
>
> Actually, I was under the impression, from some "Children's" books I've
> bought at a Library Clearence Sale, that the Romans did use Chariots for
> scouting and to transport messages quickly. But not in Battle

Both those uses seem quite strange since a chariot is a lot worse than a
rider on a single horse for those tasks.

Romans used heavy covered chariots for their baggage train, for
travelling around the empire etc. If you need Hollywood images: the
Chariot in which Commodus reaches the battle field is a quite honest
representation of those.

Manius Villius Limitanus.


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: An inquiry about the composition centuries
From:	"sceptia" <sceptia@yahoo.es>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:40:08 -0000

Salve, amici, et salve M. M. Audens.

--- In novaroma@y..., MarcusAudens@w... wrote:
>
> In closing, however, I must tell you that I am impressed by one
facet of your message. In the determination, review, gathering and
posting of your information you must have spent some hours of labor.
My impression is that had you spent your time and effort a little
more wisely, some Province would now be in possesion of some very
valuable new laws. proposals, a volunteer for needed activities or
any one of many other useful and productive efforts. Too Bad ,
really!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Marcus Minucius Audens

Just a few words. Good Cl. Sl. Davianus have done too many things for
Hispania, and all of them with very impressive results. When you feel
that his efforts have been done vainly or for pleasure, I must say
I´m not agree with you, not at all. In our province, we owe to him a
beautiful contribution about Linguae Imperii
(http://www.geocities.com/nrhispania/linguaeimperii_es.html), he is
also our Scriba ad Latinitatem and one of the most wise, intelligent
and hard worker for the provincial list and the provincial page. Talk
to him is a pleasure and is a person with a fine political sense and
a very balanced mind. I respect him because he has gain this right.
So, respectfully, if I were you, I would re-think about his political
and organizational consideration and gave him a proper answer. Some
Province is in possesion of a very valuable citizen, and he is Cl.
Sl. Davianus in Hispania. Very valuable, indeed!!!.

Lucius Didius Geminus Sceptius.


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	StarVVreck@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:32:08 EST

In a message dated 2/19/02 4:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
MarcusAudens@webtv.net writes:

> Sometimes, in order to get a Child's book into print,
> an author will resort to Hollywood for his data.

I couldn't resist buying the books, they were only 50 cents each.

Vale,

Iulius Titinius Antonius

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Subject:	[novaroma] Attention Voters! Invalid voter codes
From:	"Julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 18:20:54 -0000

Salvete! The cives with the following voter codes have malformed or
invalid voter codes:

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A reminder to all: your voter code consists of three letters,
followed by three numbers. Please do not confuse any letters with
numbers and enter them in the same case they were assigned to you.

If you have a problem with your voter code, please log in to your
profile on the Nova Roma website and follow the instructions to get
your proper Voter Code, or contact the Censors.

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: An inquiry about the composition centuries
From:	"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:49:31 -0000

>>So, respectfully, if I were you, I would re-think about his
political and organizational consideration and gave him a proper
answer. Some Province is in possesion of a very valuable citizen, and
he is Cl. Sl. Davianus in Hispania. Very valuable, indeed!!!.

Salev Luci Didi Gemi Scepti,

A very reasonable and respectful response defending the dignitas or
your Province-mate.

Perhaps Marcus Minucius, who appears to be so found of reminding us
he is a Senator, Consularis, Propraetor, "Senior" Quaestor, member
of "those of us us count",etc., etc., and on and on, would do well to
mind some of his own advice and think more before speaking.

I, for one, grow tired of being lectured.

Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
"Junior" Quaestor