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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: Does anyone know???
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:05:21 -0500 (EST)

Legionary Furioso;

Sorry about that!!! I wasn't sure if you were still wth us!!!!!
Jeez!!!! Don't tell the Commander (Grin!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	StarVVreck@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:10:34 EST

Salve!

In a message dated 2/21/02 6:24:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
radams40@juno.com writes:

> Anyone
> have any info on how the standard railroad gauge really was
> determined?
>

LoL, I wouldn't be surprised if actually did trace back that far but actually
to simple wagons the Romans, or even the pre-Roman Celts used for trading or
carrying equipment but I don't have any real information. And as to the
Space Shuttle, a show they are now playing on the Discovery Channel shows
that part of the Space Shuttle is shipped back to Cape Canaveral by ship
through the Panama Canal, part by a specially modified C-130 Cargo Plane (The
one's they were using to drop food packets in Afgahnistan, no?), and... a
part by train.

Vale,

Iulius Titinius Antonius

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Women and religion
From:	"quintus_galerius" <max_vladimir@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 03:03:02 -0000

Salve,

I know that the early Christian church ordained women to the
deaconate. However, where it was permissable for male deacons to
serve the euchrist, in the absence of the priest, in the form of pre-
sanctified gifts; the female deacons were not allowed to serve in
this manner. To my knowledge, all other functions of the deaconate
were allow to them in regard to serving the women of the church.

Vale,
Quinus Galerius Britannicus

--- In novaroma@y..., David Sánchez <davius_sanctex@t...> wrote:
> Salvete cives:
>
> Apud regiligiones "morales" imperii: religio judaico-christiana,
rel. zoroastriana, rel. masdeista, rel. manichaea ... [et aliae
forsitan a me non dictae]. Aliquis potest dicere si:
>
> (a) Laudant pauperitatem hominum?
> (b) Incorporant magnopere faeminis?
>
> ______________________
>
> Among the "moral " religions of the empire: Judaism-Christianism,
Zorastrism, Mazdaism, Manicheism... [ and some other than has perhaps
not mentioned ]. Somebody could say something to me on if these
religions:
>
> (1) Did they intercede for poverty of men?
> (2) Did they give an active participation to women?
>
> The question arises from a discussion with an friend on because the
Mithraism (that was well on the verge of clearing the position to him
to the Christianity did not prevail), apparently the Mithraism still
being a zoroastrian religion favour over all the ritualism of pagan
type and excludes women of these rites... The Mithraism dominated
completely in some legions, as can be seen in the example of
Constantius Chlorus, father of the emperor Constantinus = the
responsible of christianization of the empire.
> We know that many Mithraists Roman soldiers were married with
Christian women, and clearly as the education of the children ran to
the position of women the result was frequently a Christian boy (this
the case of Constantinus is a little, I think, whose mother Helena
was Christian and its father was a Mithraist).
>
> Cl. Sl. Davianus
>
>
> _______________________________________________________
> ámeinon gŕr olígon orthôs ę polýn kakôs
práksai chrónon.
> [Praestat exiguum recteque quam multum perperamque tempus agere]
>
> Flavius Claudius Iulianus, imperator romanorum
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Wed, 20 Feb 2002 05:46:43 -0000

Salve Marce Bianchi Antonius,

I thought your post was interesting. I'd never seen the info.
before. I may be gullible, but I didn't worry about it's accuracy or
it taking up my mailbox. If I don't want certain e-mails, well we
all know that can be adjusted.

Please don't stop participating because of the response of a few that
appear pompous. Look at what our Honored Senior Consul wrote. Your
posts are welcome ( at least to me).

Vale,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
>
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] Almost all text in Latin we know ...
From:	"Cl. Sl. Davianus" <davius_sanctex@terra.es>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 00:16:41 +0100

A hallucinating page that contains practically all classics (Greek, Latin):

Http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/perscoll?collection=Greco-Roman

each one of the words of the text appears with a hyperlink that gives the statistics of this word in Latin or Greek texts.

The total of Latin texts in this collection ascends to 2049095 words, the gathered texts of Plautus for example suppose 165243 words! and for each one of these words if one click on the text, the meaning and the grammatical case of that word appears!!
With sucha a tool, if someone does not learn Latin is because he/she does not want!

Cl. Sl. Davianus

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ámeinon gŕr olígon orthôs ę polýn kakôs práksai chrónon.
[Praestat exiguum recteque quam multum perperamque tempus agere]

Flavius Claudius Iulianus, imperator romanorum

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Two feelings
From:	"radams36" <radams40@juno.com>
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 21:41:08 -0000

--- In novaroma@y..., "sceptia" <sceptia@y...> wrote:
> Salve.
>
> As a member of this community and a citizen, I would like to
express
> my perceptions about the language law and censorial activity.
> First of all, although I'm a cives from Hispania, and English is
not
> my mother tongue, I recognise the value of using a language widely
> spread around the world. In this case, it's the English, but maybe
> because is the mother tongue of the founders of Nova Roma. Imagine
> this project from Brazil, Denmark or Serbia. Should it be then
their
> own languages the main ones for speaking on their lists?. If the
idea
> would had rose from these countries, and we consider ourselves as
> Roman people, not just their heirs but their re-builders, why not
> consider LATIN as the main language? It joins us more than English
or
> any other mother tongue, just because this is, or should be, one of
> the main purposes of Nova Roma.
> Now, I'm not a Latin writer or speaker. Why this defense of Latin
> then?. As I said, I'm Hispanicus, and my language is very
influenced
> by Latin. Other languages as Italian, French, Portuguese and
English
> have the very same influence. As Latin is a brick, build then with
it,
> not only with an heir of it.
> We are not enough fluently here for doing it. Just some people,
but,
> as an example, imagine in the USA a president elected who just talk
in
> Norwegian because his fathers are from Norway. English is the
official
> language in the USA, but was it in Rome?

I have mixed feelings on the language issue, Lucius, but you raise
some good points, and we should all appreciate you providing us with
some perspective on the issue.

> Secondly, about the subject of censorial activities, I would like
to
> express another feeling.
> Here we have the right to talk, to express our ideas concerning to
> Nova Roma. Well, sometimes I have read some issues about things
> completely different. As an example, about "Lord of the rings".
Well,
> good film but has it something to do with the res publica? Just
think
> we would like to read about roman themes, arts, philosophy,
history,
> et cetera. In my province we have real interesting discussions
about
> everything concerned to NR or old Rome, and politics, religion... I
> have founded people very valuable (Gn. Sl. Astur, Cl. Sl.
Davianus...)
> and enthusiastic with real knowledge about old Rome. Here it
happened
> the same to me with Puteanus or Gryllus. Well, the point is that
> everyone has something to offer. About ROME, and around it. Let
these
> people talk freely, even (specially) when they criticise some
> institution or magistrate.

I would only counter this with the idea that we are not just fellow
citizens, but most of us are friends to one degree or another. I
don't mind reading off-topic posts, but can understand why some don't
care for them. I think the real solution is for everyone who is
posting something off-topic to put 'OT' at the beginning of the
subject line, so that the posts can be quickly and easily
differentiated and deleted by those who don't care to read them (in
fact, I've been quite remiss in this respect and will try to remember
to do it). I prefer for my fellow citizens to be able to tell me
whatever may interest them, whether Roman-related or not - it's a
good way for us to get better acquainted and to discover other shared
interests.

Let everyone talk freely because we can
> find very interesting point of views and wisdom in their words. Let
> them express their feelings and make a debate about them. I just
> appreciate the idea of stopping issues when they are written with
> anger and gross words, but writing to the offender and asking
him/her
> to re-write it on a proper manner. Humour, irony or satire messages
> should be allowed, because words are for that.

Agreed.

> I have tried to set here my ideas, in a language that is not my
native
> one. Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, I'm Spanish. J
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Didius Geminus Sceptius.

No apologies necessary, Lucius, your message was well-expressed. I
appreciate your input and your perspective.

Vale bene,

Rufus Iulius Palaeologus


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Pip's Mom - Venii's Mater
From:	"radams36" <radams40@juno.com>
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:16:04 -0000

--- In novaroma@y..., Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@i...>
wrote:
> Health and Luck All,
>
> Been a bit distracted that past several days,
> as some of you know, by waiting on news of my mother.
>
> Just got a call from my brother Leonard.
>
> She's come through the triple bypass operation,
> this Odinsdćg morning, real well.
>
> Doctor said she responded good, better than average,
> and she opened her eyes when my dad (Stewart)
> went into the recovery room, with my sister Anne,
> and caressed her forehead.
> I can imagine the tears of relief in his eyes.
> They'll be 46 years wed on June 9th.
<SNIP>
> In great relief and happiness
> -Piparskeggr known as Venator

Glad to hear your Mom's doing well. Please convey to her my best
wishes for a full and speedy recovery.

Best,

Rufus Iulius Palaeologus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@texas.net>
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:16:28 -0600

Salvete Rufe Iuli et alii

> Well, now don't I have egg on my face for being facile enough to
> believe this earlier post. Ah, well, it was amusing, anyway. Anyone
> have any info on how the standard railroad gauge really was
> determined?

http://www.snopes2.com/history/american/gauge.htm

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
--
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
Ta i quetes Quenyanen séya vanima


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Women and religion
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:41:18 -0000

Salve M. Antonius Zeno,

I wish I had my books with me down here in Cuba, for I would be
able perhaps to add to the answers you gave.

Didn't the Temple have something like a "women's guild"?

As for early Christianity, the answer to both questions is also
yes. Again, I do not have access to my little library, but the early
church did have "social programs" for the care of widows and orphans,
and also was known to have gone out to rescue abandoned infants,
which was still often practiced among the lower classes.

The roles women played in the church could vary. In the christian
scriptures, references are made to women 'prophets'. Pliny's letter
to Trajan refers to "deaconesses". But the precise roles would
probably have varied from place to place. The author of the letters
to Timothy {both of which are nearly universally regarded as not from
the hand of Paul} forbids women from apeaking in the church or having
authority over men. Other letters such as Galatians which are
considered to be genuine Paul letters seem to have a different view.

Any good commentary or Introduction to the NT from reputed publishers
such as Oxford or Harper Collins can give much more info on these
matters of women and authorship.

Gaius Cassius Nerva


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Pip's Mom - Venii's Mater
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 05:15:50 -0000

---Salve Venator:

I wish also, to say, that my prayers are with your mom and your family
at this very difficult time.

Bene vale, amice,
Pompeia

In novaroma@y..., "radams36" <radams40@j...> wrote:
> --- In novaroma@y..., Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@i...>
> wrote:
> > Health and Luck All,
> >
> > Been a bit distracted that past several days,
> > as some of you know, by waiting on news of my mother.
> >
> > Just got a call from my brother Leonard.
> >
> > She's come through the triple bypass operation,
> > this Odinsdćg morning, real well.
> >
> > Doctor said she responded good, better than average,
> > and she opened her eyes when my dad (Stewart)
> > went into the recovery room, with my sister Anne,
> > and caressed her forehead.
> > I can imagine the tears of relief in his eyes.
> > They'll be 46 years wed on June 9th.
> <SNIP>
> > In great relief and happiness
> > -Piparskeggr known as Venator
>
> Glad to hear your Mom's doing well. Please convey to her my best
> wishes for a full and speedy recovery.
>
> Best,
>
> Rufus Iulius Palaeologus


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Legos and Antiquity
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 06:10:08 -0000

--- In novaroma@y..., labienus@t... wrote:
> Salvete
>
> This is really neat.

Pompeia: You bet it is! My youngest son, a diehard lego buff,
thought this was too cool!

Thanks for sharing!
Pompeia

Be sure to browse a little.
>
> http://www.ancient-theme.com/1998/olson.html
>
> Valete
> T Labienus Fortunatus


Subject:	[novaroma] A Quasi Roman-Related Story I Enjoyed Hearing...
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 06:16:49 -0000

Salvete Omnes:

I work with a colleague nurse who has a young neice who is now
modeling. She was in Paris about 10 days ago, and decided, with a
friend of hers, that she'd go to a diningroom 'for a few'.

Well, our young 23 year-old with the 22-inch waist and lovely long
blonde hair got more than she bargained for, as did her friend.

Turns out they ended up tipping Heinekins with none other than Russell
Crowe (Maximus in the movie "Gladiator". He was there promoting his
new flick, "A Beautiful Mind".

Well, her mother, got a call about 5:30 am our time, from her
daughter, who was hysteric with glee! "MOM!!!! GUESS who I had DRINKS
with TONIGHT!!!!.......yadda yadda". She suggested that her daughter
might be a bit tipsy. "OH COURSE I'M DRUNK MOM......WHO CARES??"

They were apparently to have lunch with Mr. Crowe the next
day...haven't seen my nurse friend, so I don't know how that turned
out.

Small world, no?

Pompeia Cornelia


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Poem: A Song to Minerva
From:	"Gaius Marius Merullus" <c_marius_m@novaroma.org>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:46:43 -0500

Ave Piperbarbe Vlleri

Mille gratias pro hoc carmine

What an excellent song.

:
:The central song of a ritual to give Honor to Minerva I m composing.
:
:The first stanza is repeated as the chorus.
:
:She walks in us - A lay of Minerva
:
:Minerva, tall, graceful, serene,
:Grey-eyed One, mind fully wise
:Elder Goddess of Roman Tribes
:We hear Your Voice, within our hearts
:
:In Roman minds, inspire thought;
:In Roman hearts, set wisdom's gift;
:To Roman hands, give crafting skill;
:In Romans all, instill true pride.
:- Chorus -
:
:In Elder Days, Etruscans called,
:To You Wise One, Holy Mnvra.
:They heard Your Voice, in sage's words,
:In buildings, crafts, they honored you
:- Chorus -
:
:Upon a hill, the Capital,
:Your shrine was there, with Juno, Jove;
:>From Roman hands, came sacrifice,
:In Roman voice, were praises sung.
:- Chorus -
:
:Your Name did spread, as Legions marched;
:>From Latium, across the world;
:In shield's defense and hasta thrust,
:In civic works, built by their hands.
:- Chorus -
:
:And as Rome did meet other folk;
:Your Genius wise was seen again;
:In Others who, Goddesses were,
:Of crafting things and knowledge gain.
:- Chorus -
:
:Athena fine, we mostly see,
:As like unto, Minerva proud,
:Hellenic One, of Holy Mien,
:With Spear and Shield, and Scrolls of Lore.
:- Chorus -
:
:And sometimes still, Minerva speaks;
:Gives counsel wise, to listening heart,
:Of we who live upon this earth,
:In faithful will and open mind.
:- Chorus -
:
:In Roman minds, inspire thought;
:In Roman hearts, set wisdom's gift;
:To Roman hands, give crafting skill;
:In Romans all, instill true pride.
:- Chorus -
:- Chorus -
:


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Women and religion and judaism. OT? Dunno
From:	"javier_gil_ruiz" <javier_gil_ruiz@yahoo.es>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:22:36 -0000

Salvete omnes.

--- In novaroma@y..., mark zona <pitdog2002@y...> wrote:
> I will only speak in regard for Judaism on this
> question, the other religions I am not well enough
> educated in.

I take it that you have a knowledge about judaism during that era.
Just our luck, as now you can answer some of our questions on that
matter :-)

We had been debating on that matter in the NRHispania list (a rare
haven of religio, linguistics, history, art and sociological threads
where flames are a rarity and specific and extensive knowledge a
given) before my honorable codecurio and scriba propraetoris Cl. Sl.
Daviane presented the question here.

The trouble there is`precisely that our knowledges are similar in
nature if not in depth (as is natural: we're from the same cultural
environment). Some members explained us part of their professional
knowledge about the judaic precedents of christianity, judaism in the
era of christ, and just before it. And about christianism and
mithraism.

Some facts about post christ judaism were exposed too, such as the
(for me) surprising existence of the three years of jewish
independence in the 610's where sacrificial cult was reestablished in
the country.

Yet much is left for us to know from the spiritual life of judaism in
imperial rome (and later) and, if you have the time, we'd like to
amiably request you to explain us a bit of it when you have the time.

> >
> > Among the "moral " religions of the empire:
> > Judaism-Christianism, SNIP
>
> Even in imperical times, the differences between
> Judaism and Christianism were such that the two
> religions should be considered seperately, and not
> lumped together.

An undiscussable fact, but as the saying goes the devil is in the
details.

Christianism was, in its beginning stages, not more that a particular
way of understanding judaism, at least until the council of
jerusalem. I have also been told of the many different ways of
understanding judaism of that era, such as the saduceic, the
pharisaic, the essenian... But only up to the first century (blame
catholic education :-) ). Christianism eventually evolved, etc. in a
way that is widely known.

Did judaism get a mainstream just after that? Well, of course it did,
but how and when? Expressed otherwise, when do you think that judaism
got so mainstream ofr christianism so different that you could only
talk about two different religions.

> > (2) Did they give an active participation to women?
>
> Yes, but the religious function of women in Judaism
> was very different then men. Women were exempt from
> most ritualistic requirements, but obligated in others
> that men were exempt from. There were of coarse
> requirements that included both men and women.
>

Well, what I gatherred about the status of women in early catholicism
is that it was determined by the priority of making it different from
the status of women in pagan religions. Thus actual office was soon
discouraged -and eventually banned- , wearing long unbridled (bad
expression) hair was countered by instituting the custom of wearing
veil, and any kind of ecstatic aproach to oracularism also banned.

Whereas the approach to judaism was different. There are sources that
confirm that in those times jewish scripture sages were often
consulted in spiritual matters by the christian population, as they
were looked upon as holier and wiser than the normal lay but baptized
christian (yes, the christian sacerdocy had other views...).

Thus, it could be assumed that even if judaic practices were not
directly inherited in the status and role of christian women (or in
other matters), they could have been transmitted from judaism to
christianism later on.

That is just a guess. żWhat do you think?

> I hope this helps in some way.

It does. Thank you

M. Salix saverius

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: Pip's Mom - Venii's Mater
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:08:07 -0500 (EST)

All the Best to your family PIP!! I hve a small idea of your fathers
relief, as last year my wife of 40+ years came out of a stomach
operation with an excellnt prognosis. My prayers go with you and your
Mother.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	"radams36" <radams40@juno.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:36:12 -0000

> LoL, I wouldn't be surprised if actually did trace back that far
but actually
> to simple wagons the Romans, or even the pre-Roman Celts used for
trading or
> carrying equipment but I don't have any real information. And as
to the
> Space Shuttle, a show they are now playing on the Discovery Channel
shows
> that part of the Space Shuttle is shipped back to Cape Canaveral by
ship
> through the Panama Canal, part by a specially modified C-130 Cargo
Plane (The
> one's they were using to drop food packets in Afgahnistan, no?),
and... a
> part by train.
>
> Vale,
>
> Iulius Titinius Antonius
>
Y'know, if the danged thing was a little more aerodynamic, they could
just fly it back! Ah, well....

Vale,

Rufus Iulius Palaeologus


Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Almost all text in Latin we know ...
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:02:26 -0500 (EST)

Well said, Tiberius Otho;

I have several skills and have served for twenty years in submarines in
the U.S. Navy which many could not do. However, I am pleased not to mak
judgements about them. My skills do not lie in the area of languages,
and even two years living on the economy in Spain, did not help me to
communicate in Spanish, with those who lived there. Latin is a lovely
language as well as an interesting one, but other factors come into the
equation such as time, previous commitments and preference. I like
Latin, but I am afraid that I like the study of historical Field
Engineering, Cartography and Navigation even more. Not only that, but
it appears that I have more skill in those areas as well. I am
committed to the efforts of several reenactment units, and I command one
of them. I am also a model builder, and my models come out much better
than my language attempts even with the assistance of the Internet. In
addition I am committed to a municipal commission for which I have
served as the Chairman for 18 years, as well as my 35+ years in the Boy
Scouts of America as a Senior Leader and Instructor.

All of the above reasons are reasons why my progress in Latin will
likely be slow and laborius. More than enough reason to have all the
excuse that I need.

Marcus Minucius Audens


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: The Space Shuttle and Roma
From:	"radams36" <radams40@juno.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:45:58 -0000

Anyone
> > have any info on how the standard railroad gauge really was
> > determined?
>
> http://www.snopes2.com/history/american/gauge.htm
>
> Valete
> T Labienus Fortunatus
> --
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
> Ta i quetes Quenyanen séya vanima

Hah, thanks for the educational link, Fortunatus. I'm usually pretty
up on urban legends, but had missed this one entirely. Good article!
Thanks again.

Vale bene,

Rufus Iulius Palaeologus


Subject:	[novaroma] My return from barbarian lands.....
From:	Gnaeus Marius <gnmariusasia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:26:53 -0800 (PST)

Salve, All!

After a very prolonged, but necessary, sojourn in
the wilds, I have returned to my real home, NR.

While I have never been exactly known for frequently
speaking on subjects in the Forum, I have been keeping
abreast of events as best as possible under the
circumstances.

All I can say is WOW!, talk about growth! Almost
MCC, and climbing. I have never been this pround since
I graduated boot camp!

Vale, for now, my friends....i'm back in 'lurker'
mode........

=====
Cn Marius Asia

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Subject:	=?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20=5Bnovaroma=5D=20Almost=20all=20text=20in=20Latin=20we=20know=20=2E=2E=2E?=
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 21:01:39 +0100

Salve,

>With sucha a tool, if someone does not learn Latin is because he/she does
>not want!

Please, don't be so harsh! I try since 5 years to yearn enough Latin to
be able to translate simple texts from German into Latin, but I'm still
not able to do so. I don't believe, that I don't wont to learn this language,
since I spent the last 5 years trying.

By, the way, I am not offended by the statement. I only think, that there
need to be some differences made.

Curate ut valeatis, Tiberius Annaeus Otho

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Subject:	RE: [novaroma] Almost all text in Latin we know ...
From:	Antonius Corvus Septimius <antoniuscorvusseptimius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:47:18 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

Forgive my intrusion on the good points made
on this thread.
I would gladly welcome someone who does not
speak Latin into the Roman community in which will
come to be in the very near future.There is always
time to learn new things. But the love for ones
culture must overcome all obstacles.If the intent on
reviving the culture is true, then there shouldnt be
any problems with helping eachother with the language
from time to time. Lets continue with our goal.

valete, A. Corvus Septimius

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