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	 [novaroma] Roman small letters | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Marilde Goliardi Perdomo" <gmarilde@hotmail.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:24:36 -0300 | 
 
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Salvete fratres et sorores! 
I'd love to know where can I learn about the small letters, I've heard that  
they were completely different from the capital ones. 
Gratias et valete, 
Valeria Constantinia Iuliana. 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Great book recommendation! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "J.R. Shields" <jayarr_1@hotmail.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:41:30 -0500 | 
 
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Salvete! 
 
    Today I picked up Handbook to Life in Ancient Rome by Lesley Adkins and Roy A. Adkins for $19.95 at my local Borders.  It covers lots of topics and provides quick-reference to many different aspects of Roman life, including the ever-elusive Roman Navy and the recently-requested Roman small lettering--which are quite different and changed over time. 
    It's well worth the money in my humble opinion, and if anyone would like to inquire on the specifics of the book, feel free to E-mail me at jayarr_1@hotmail.com on an individual basis. 
 
Valete, 
J.R. 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Roman small letters | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Fortunatus <labienus@texas.net> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:25:39 -0600 | 
 
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Salve Valeria Constantina 
 
> I'd love to know where can I learn about the small letters, I've heard that  
> they were completely different from the capital ones. 
 
Adkins and Adkins' "Life in Ancient Rome" has a section on writing that  
features a table monumental, archaic, Old Roman Cursive, and New Roman  
Cursive letters.  You can purchase a copy from the Macellum (accessible  
from the NR Web site), and most any largish public library ought to have  
a copy. 
 
Vale 
T Labienus Fortunatus 
--  
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. 
Ta i quetes Quenyanen séya vanima 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Great book recommendation! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Fortunatus <labienus@texas.net> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:31:32 -0600 | 
 
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Salvete 
 
 > Today I picked up Handbook to Life in Ancient Rome by Lesley Adkins 
 > and Roy A. Adkins for $19.95 at my local Borders. 
... 
 > It's well worth the money in my humble opinion... 
 
I agree completely.  However, one thing to note about the book is that  
it, as is usually the case with such survey works, does not particularly  
address points of controversy among interpretations of the historical  
record.  Also, the entirety of its bibliography consists of secondary  
works, which puts the "Handbook" in the category of tertiary works. 
 
So, as a first stop for looking up facts, it's quite useful (and much  
more affordable than the Oxford Classical Dictionary).  However, it's  
still a good idea to look at more than one source, and to check the  
primary sources whenever possible. 
 
Valete 
T Labienus Fortunatus 
--  
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. 
Ta i quetes Quenyanen séya vanima 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Great book recommendation! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:30:33 EST | 
 
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In a message dated 2/24/02 7:57:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
jayarr_1@hotmail.com writes: 
 
 
> Today I picked up Handbook to Life in Ancient Rome by Lesley Adkins and Roy  
> A. Adkins for $19.95 at my local Borders.  It covers lots of topics and  
> provides quick-reference to many different aspects of Roman life, including  
> the ever-elusive Roman Navy and the recently-requested Roman small  
> lettering--which are quite different and changed over time. 
>     It's well worth the money in my humble opinion, and if anyone would  
> like to inquire on the specifics of the book 
 
Salvete! 
It is fine quick general reference, but it does not replace primary sources.   
I have caught  mistakes with omissions.  The Roman military section is  
incomplete, and literature section only mentions the most important Roman  
contributors, but neglects to add that fact.  Use it cautiously. 
 
Valete   
 
Q. Fabius Maximus 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Re: Roman Games for PC/Pompeii | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:44:17 -0000 | 
 
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Salve Flaccus, 
 
  I made an error in the original post.  The title of the game is  
Timescape: Journey To Pompeii. 
 
  My copy is packed in my duffel bag, but simply do a yahoo search on  
the title and you will come up with several reviews, and I think  
Amazon.Com still has it.   
 
  Be advised though, that I saw several negative reviews.  Everyone  
agrees that Pompeii is beautifully recreated, and in fact, the game  
was designed in cooporation with the museum out there.  But the game  
play and extrended dialogues with characters, and the many sudden  
ways you can die in the game are points of complaint. 
 
  Gaius Cassius Nerva 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Re: Almost all text in Latin we know ... | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "javier_gil_ruiz" <javier_gil_ruiz@yahoo.es> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:39:36 -0000 | 
 
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--- In novaroma@y..., MarcusAudens@w... wrote: 
> Well said, Tiberius Otho; 
>  
> (...) 
>  
> All of the above reasons are reasons why my progress in Latin will 
> likely be slow and laborius.  More than enough reason to have all  
> the excuse that I need. 
>  
> Marcus Minucius Audens 
 
 
Do not take honourable Daviane's statement badly, Marce! 
 
Although he has an enviable professional knowledge of classical  
languages, my codecurio and friend speaks but little English.  He  
tries his best to contribute to the main list with good tips on  
culture and linguistics and starting debates.  I can vouch for his  
good intentions, even if he on rare occasions ;-) is misinformed. 
 
When you translate from a language to another, there are  
sometimes "false friends", expressions you use trying to mean  
something because they are similar to others from your language, but  
which actually mean something else. 
 
Thus, in the same message Daviane called the website "hallucinating",  
when he actually meant it was quite useful and worth a visit, but not  
more than soberly exciting.  In Spanish, "alucinante" does have this  
exaggerated meaning. 
 
Likewise the expression "with this, when someone doesn't do **** it's  
because he doesn't want to!" is voluntarily hyperbolic, and just  
means something more in the line of "wow, this stupendous tool is so  
great you could teach Latin to a dog!" (to take another exaggeration). 
 
Hey, you've been living here, you should know! ;-) 
 
I'm 100% sure he meant no offence, or that those novoromans who don't  
learn Latin should be looked badly upon. That would be making a harsh  
judgement about hundreds of people about which he knows next to  
nothing! 
 
This is actually an opportunity to make a more general comment to the  
list:   
 
Some people are making an enthusiastic effort to contribute to the  
English speaking lists of Nova Roma.  Sometimes you can tell they  
make a bigger effort to write in a proper English than native  
speakers.  Please be patient with their errors and if something they  
(ahem. we) write doesn't make much sense do take into account that it  
may be due to a misunderstanding more than to a will to offend  
gratuitously. 
 
TOMULUS BONUS POPULI ROMANI 
 
Marcus Salix Saverius 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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