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Re: [novaroma] File - NovaRomaList.txt |
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"Cl. Sl. Davianus" <davius_sanctex@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Sat, 2 Mar 2002 02:30:56 +0100 |
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>>Curatrix Sermonem (List moderator)<<
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Cl. Sl. Davianus
Tribunus Plebis
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Taxes |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 1 Mar 2002 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) |
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Salve Quirites,
There are Some Interesting Ideas in this post.
--- Ianus Minicius Sparsus <jfernandez50@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Salve cives,
>
> I would like to make some suggestions on tax payment
> for next year.
>
> First of all, that EURO is admitted as curreny in
> NOVA ROMA for those who may wish to effect payment
> in such currency in addition to USDollar. In that
> sense, authorities would fix the counter value,
> fluctuacion included if any, at the time of
> establishing the net amount due.
Drusus: This is an excellent idea, and one that I have
suggested in the past. I would go even farther on this
and say that Taxes collected in Euros be deposited in
a European bank. This would save Nova Roma the Cost of
currency exchange fees for any European expenses, and
increase the funds availble to European Provinces when
they spend their portion of the taxes because they
would avoid the exchange fees on having the money
returned from the United States.
>
> Second; every year, a specific country may be freed
> from paying taxes (half-basis) according to economic
> criteria selection. No doubt, I honestly think that
> Argentina does deserve such treatment.
Drusus: At first glance this sounds attractive,
however I fear that politics would rear it's head in
the choice of which province would be selected. It
would also hurt the growth of the Province that was
selected because there wouldn't be any funds returned
to it for local activities if no taxes were collected.
I Think we should save remittance of taxes for true
emergencies like the situation in Argentina
>
> Finally, I believe that any one should pay based on
> his means. Among political parties and associations,
> age is most oftenly chosen as criteria, i.e. Nova
> Roma may establish two different taxable levels: one
> for olders than 30 and a reduced one for people
> under that age, including those holding
> responsibilities related to the first level.
Drusus: There is no Historic basis for basing tax
rates on age, but Taxes were based on means in
Antiquita, a percentage of a citizens Censorial worth.
This wouldn't work in Nova Roma. I would certainly
refuse to reply to a Census question regarding my
income or personal worth, and I think that most of our
citizens would do likewise.
In Addition to having taxes based on a Citizen's
Census worth, his position in the Centuries was also
based on this figure, with the higher taxes paid came
an increase in voting power.
Since the higher Classes all ready have the increased
voting power, having taxes based on Class assignment
rather than age would be the proper Roman way of
having a multi-tiered tax system.
We could set a base tax for the 5th Class. The 4th
Class would pay US$ 5.00 more, the third Class US$
10.00 more, the Second Class US$ 15.00 more and the
First Class US$ 20.00 higher.
These figures are just an example of course. the
actual rates would be up to the Senate.
Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Congratulations |
| From: |
"Cl. Sl. Davianus" <davius_sanctex@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Sat, 2 Mar 2002 03:49:41 +0100 |
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Salvete Cives Novae Romae:
Cupio gratias dare omnibus iis pro me in suffragio egerunt ad Tribunatum. Obvie mihi videtur me non esse hic nunc sine eis. Atque ob eam rem reitero: si hic sum es per eos et pro eis, ad attentionem suarum
curarum, ut servam in omne re secundum meam habilitatem. Obsercro, contactere me si aliqua est vobis praeoccupans. Naturaliter non arbitror me esse plus quam honestus servus populi Novae Romae, et mea labor per via adiuvandorum ominum it, pro confidentes atque dissidentes cum propositis meis.
Nec obliviscor mei amici boni, Limitani; eum cupio proper videre ut Tribunus. Etiam dare gratias Druso, Corvo Septimio Procopioque, ut electionem plus disputatam fecierunt et declaro enimvero fuit honor mihi
esse candidatum apud eos.
Cl. Sl. Davianus ... ad sollicitudinem vostram!
www.geocities.com/nrhispania
_____________________________________
I want to thank all those who have expressed their confidence in me as
Tribune. I would not, of course, be here without them. For this reason I
would like to stress that I am here for them, to take care of their concerns
and to help them in whatever ways I am able. Please feel free to contact me
if there is something that worries you. Naturally, I consider myself no more
than an honest servant of the interests of the community of Nova Roma. My
work is directed to help those who share my ideas, as well as those who have
different views.
I do not want to forget my good friend Limitanus, whom I hope to soon see as
a Tribune and whom I know is prepared to be a good Tribune. I would also
like to thank Drusus, Corvus Septimius, and Procopius for an exciting
election, and to say that it has been an honor to be a candidate with them.
[Thank you very much to Joseph Bloch that provided the English an accurate version for the original message]
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Oath of office as Aedile Plebis |
| From: |
"curiobritannicus" <marcusaemiliusscaurus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:57:18 -0000 |
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Salvete omnes,
I, Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus(Daniel Eichner)do hereby
solemnly swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus(Daniel Eichner)
do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma,
and to act always in the best interests of the people and the
Senate of Nova Roma.
I, Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus(Daniel Eichner) further
swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that
would threaten its status as the State Religion.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, I
do accept the position of Plebeian Aedile and all the
rights, privileges,obligations, and responsibilities attendant
thereto.
Bene valete,
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Declaratio of the Aediles |
| From: |
"curiobritannicus" <marcusaemiliusscaurus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 02 Mar 2002 09:05:37 -0000 |
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Salvete omnes,
I do hereby virtually sign the Declaratio published earlier in this
year by my colleagues:
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
A copy of this Declaratio can be found in the archives of the main
list. I believe it's post number 29225.
Bene valete,
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Possible Nova Britannia Excursion |
| From: |
"C. Minucius Hadrianus" <shinjikun@shinjikun.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:50:50 -0500 |
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Salvete!
Is there anyone who definitely plans on going tomorrow?
Valete,
C. Minucius Hadrianus
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Minucius Hadrianus [mailto:shinjikun@shinjikun.com]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:46 PM
To: Egressus@yahoogroups.com; NovaBritannia; Novaroma
Subject: [novaroma] Possible Nova Britannia Excursion
Salvete,
On Sunday March 3rd, there is going to be a "Gallery Talk" concerning
Roman portraiture at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts. The talks are given
by either curators or independent scholars and free with museum
admission. Would anyone in Nova Britannia be interested in going?
Admission is $14, $12 for college students and seniors. There may be an
outside possibility of a group rate if enough people are interested. I
know this is short notice, but it looks to be a fun and interesting
event. The talk will last only about 1 hour, so we'll have plenty of
time to meet, greet and wander about the MFA on our own. The details of
the talk are below:
Sunday, March 3, 2002
2 p.m. Gallery Talk: "Real" Faces: Roman Portraiture
By: Jennifer Ledig Heuser
Conventional wisdom claims that Greek portraiture was idealized and
Roman veristic. This talk looks at the tradition of Roman portraiture
throughout the Empire during the Republican period and asks how genuine
the attempt was to capture the likenesses of particular individuals.
Meet at the Sharf Information Center
Valete,
C. Minucius Hadrianus
Quaestor
Lictor Curiatus
Legate of Massachusetts
Scriba Propraetoris, Nova Britannia
ICQ# 28924742
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." - Vegetius
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Taxes |
| From: |
"Ianus Minicius Sparsus" <jfernandez50@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:37:15 +0100 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus
To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Taxes
Salve Quirites,
There are Some Interesting Ideas in this post.
--- Ianus Minicius Sparsus <jfernandez50@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Salve cives,
>
> I would like to make some suggestions on tax payment
> for next year.
>
> First of all, that EURO is admitted as curreny in
> NOVA ROMA for those who may wish to effect payment
> in such currency in addition to USDollar. In that
> sense, authorities would fix the counter value,
> fluctuacion included if any, at the time of
> establishing the net amount due.
Drusus: This is an excellent idea, and one that I have
suggested in the past. I would go even farther on this
and say that Taxes collected in Euros be deposited in
a European bank. This would save Nova Roma the Cost of
currency exchange fees for any European expenses, and
increase the funds availble to European Provinces when
they spend their portion of the taxes because they
would avoid the exchange fees on having the money
returned from the United States.
I agree absolutely with your idea.
>
> Second; every year, a specific country may be freed
> from paying taxes (half-basis) according to economic
> criteria selection. No doubt, I honestly think that
> Argentina does deserve such treatment.
Drusus: At first glance this sounds attractive,
however I fear that politics would rear it's head in
the choice of which province would be selected. It
would also hurt the growth of the Province that was
selected because there wouldn't be any funds returned
to it for local activities if no taxes were collected.
I Think we should save remittance of taxes for true
emergencies like the situation in Argentina
The idea would be that the funds were returned as if the country paid complete taxes.
>
> Finally, I believe that any one should pay based on
> his means. Among political parties and associations,
> age is most oftenly chosen as criteria, i.e. Nova
> Roma may establish two different taxable levels: one
> for olders than 30 and a reduced one for people
> under that age, including those holding
> responsibilities related to the first level.
Drusus: There is no Historic basis for basing tax
rates on age, but Taxes were based on means in
Antiquita, a percentage of a citizens Censorial worth.
This wouldn't work in Nova Roma. I would certainly
refuse to reply to a Census question regarding my
income or personal worth, and I think that most of our
citizens would do likewise.
In Addition to having taxes based on a Citizen's
Census worth, his position in the Centuries was also
based on this figure, with the higher taxes paid came
an increase in voting power.
Since the higher Classes all ready have the increased
voting power, having taxes based on Class assignment
rather than age would be the proper Roman way of
having a multi-tiered tax system.
We could set a base tax for the 5th Class. The 4th
Class would pay US$ 5.00 more, the third Class US$
10.00 more, the Second Class US$ 15.00 more and the
First Class US$ 20.00 higher.
These figures are just an example of course. the
actual rates would be up to the Senate.
Indeed most of citizens would refuse to reply to a Census question regarding their income or personal worth. Therefore I believe that the age would be a good system. Although it isn't an historical base, if is a good measurement, it would not have to worry to us. There are many things in Nova Rome that do not have an historical base. But also I like the system based in Classes that you propose.
Vale,
L. Sicinius Drusus
I. Minicius Sparsus
Provincia Hispaniae
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Practicing Religio Romana |
| From: |
Lucilla Cornelia Cinna <CorneliaLucilla@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 02 Mar 2002 19:41:45 +0100 |
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Salve L. Plotine Sebastiane
Nice to see another civis from Germania raise his voice - I hope you are
reading the provincial list as well. If not, subscribe at
http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/nrgermania/
Some prayers and rituals are provided at
http://www.novaroma.org/religio_romana/rites_and_rituals.html
The information is all stored at
http://www.novaroma.org/religio_romana/index.html
And there is a Mailing List for religious matters at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana
Hope to meet you on the Germania list soon.
Bene vale!
Lucilla Cornelia Cinna _
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