| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Worried About the Future |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@bconnex.net> |
| Date: |
Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:11:34 -0500 |
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Salve Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
My thanks for your explanation of the situation. From outside the senate
something of this magnitude can be quite alarming if you are not aware of
what is really going on within. I am very relieved to hear that the
discontent and resignations of the Vedii do not spread throughout the
senate.
>From the explanation Flavius Vedius gave on the main list of why he choose
to resign and all the talk of how the "dream is dead" I am quite shocked
that much of this was invoked by only his wife not becoming a senator. It
seems to me as though the interests of the republic are not included in the
reasons Flavius Vedius gave for resigning. This is surprising and is quite
different than what my original impression was.
If this is the only reason for his resignation it's in fact a very minuscule
issue. What a great shame to have lost two dedicated citizens like the Vedii
over something so small. I hope that within the next few weeks they will
realise what they gave up over such a small conflict in interest and see the
error they made in resigning.
Vale,
"Quamquam cupido sit delictum ab suis crebro est mater virtutum"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Curule Aedile of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www25.brinkster.com/canorien/
Gens Claudia Website:
www27.brinkster.com/gensclaudia/
--
>Marcus Octavius Germanicus at haase@konoko.net wrote:
>
>> Today is a day that will go down in Nova Roman history. Flavius Vedius a
>> founder of this nation has left us, and so has his wife Priscilla Vedia.
>
> Indeed. We have suffered a great loss; nevertheless, there are many
> dedicated citizens remaining.
>
>> Frankly, I am quite concerned. Our government as it currently is cannot
>> perform without the senate. Currently it seems as if a major dispute is
>> taking place within this assembly that has the potential seriously divide
>> our community. It's not a small thing to see Flavius Vedius leave our
>> community, I fear what might be comming.
>
> This was a personal matter involving the Vedii. And although almost all
> of the Senate took sides and participated in a bitter debate, this is not
> indicative of a deep and lasting divide within the Senate.
>
> I will not violate any Senate confidences, but the basic story can
> be derived from what the Tribunes have already published: the Senate
> voting results.
>
> As the last act of his consulship, Flavius Vedius Germanicus put
> several items before the Senate to be voted upon, even though the
> voting period would extend into the first week of my consulship. I
> saw no reason to disallow it. He then added two more items to the
> agenda, nominations of C. Fabius Quintilianus and Priscilla Vedia
> Serena as candidates for the Senate. We voted, and both were
> approved.
>
> The Lex Vedia Senatoria states:
>
> III. Upon issuance of a Senatus consultum nominating an
> individual to membership in the Senate, the censors may, at
> their discretion, include that individual in the album
> Senatorum.
>
> Priscilla Vedia joined a list of candidates for the Senate, all others
> of which had qualified ex officio by holding office as Propraetor
> or Curule Aedile for the required period. Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
> a Propraetor and Aedile, was already on that list; in his case, the
> Senatus Consultum accomplished nothing except to show that he is
> respected by the Senate.
>
> Looking at the Annales, and the lists of present and past magistrates,
> I saw that there were sixteen persons who qualified to be considered
> for the Senate, and published that list to the Senate. The addition of
> Priscilla Vedia's name increased that to seventeen.
>
> No one wished to add all seventeen to the Senate - that would have
> nearly doubled our size. And, of these seventeen, there are some
> who vanished shortly after being elected to office, and certainly
> would not be active as Senators. The Censores, whose decision it
> was, decided that the Senate should be expanded by three. (They
> also sought to remove two inactive Senators, but that was blocked
> by the Tribunes).
>
> The Censors and Consuls together assembled a list of the six leading
> potential Senators. Although the Censors could have elected to
> act unilaterally and elevated their favorite candidates only, without
> consulting anyone, they chose to ask the advice of the Senate. The
> two recent nominees, Priscilla Vedia Serena and Caeso Fabius, were
> both on that short list.
>
> In late February, the Senate was presented with the list of six names
> and each Senator was asked to select three. The candidates who
> received the most weighted votes would be presented to the Censores
> as our recommendation.
>
> The Senate chose C. Fabius, M. Arminius, and A. Tullius. Each of
> the other three candidates received votes, but these three had the
> highest point totals as well as the highest number of votes.
>
> The Censores took the recommendation of the Senate and implemented
> it exactly: Fabius, Arminius and Tullius were made Senators.
>
> Although the other two candidates who were not made Senators accepted
> that decision without complaint, Priscilla Vedia asked for an
> explanation from the Censores. They replied on monday morning,
> describing the procedure that was used. Unsatisfied with this,
> she resigned, and Flavius Vedius followed the next day.
>
> This was a personal issue. This was not some philosophical or
> ethical divide. The Senate remains committed to working together.
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus
> Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
> Curator Araneum et Senator
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Newbie.. |
| From: |
Amulius Claudius Petrus <pkkt@bconnex.net> |
| Date: |
Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:48:37 -0500 |
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Salve Magia,
Welcome to Nova Roma! It's great to see such enthusiasm from one who has not
yet been approved for citizenship. I wish you the best here in Nova Roma,
and if you have any questions, or require any assistance please feel free to
ask.
If you want to learn more about latin and the arts I recommend joining the
following lists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScholaLatina/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
Here you will find many people who are interested in the same topics. I hope
you find this useful.
Vale,
"Quamquam cupido sit delictum ab suis crebro est mater virtutum"
"Though ambition may be a fault in itself it is often the mother of virtues"
--
Amulius Claudius Petrus
Curule Aedile of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Provincia Legatus Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Canada Orientalis
Retarius Officium Gens Claudia
Canada Orientalis Provincia
Canada Orientalis Website:
www25.brinkster.com/canorien/
Gens Claudia Website:
www27.brinkster.com/gensclaudia/
--
>Magia at golanv1@yahoo.com wrote
>
> I am semi new here... my name is Raven, and I had once
> been a canidate for citizenship last year. Well,
> things didn't work out; I had to move to Mississppi to
> care for a family member, and lost all access to email
> in the process.
>
> Well, now I'm back, and have re-applied for
> citizenship.. and am now waiting on pins and needles
> to find out if I pass muster!
>
> I hope to learn a lot here, whether I am accepted or
> not, I'd really love to study Latin, and learn more
> about the arts . I'm also very interested in
> tradtional Roman religion.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Oath |
| From: |
"artabrus" <Piteas@inicia.es> |
| Date: |
Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:25:57 -0000 |
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I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus (Alejandro Emilio Carneiro Lopez) do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in
the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus (Alejandro
Emilio Carneiro Lopez) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome
in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public
and private life.
I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus (Alejandro Emilio Carneiro Lopez) swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova
Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status
as the State Religion.
I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus (Alejandro Emilio Carneiro Lopez) swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus (Alejandro Emilio Carneiro Lopez) further
swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office
of Praeceptor (teacher) of Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua
et Nova to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Praeceptor (teacher) of Academia Thules
ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Gn. Salix Galaicus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Newbie.. |
| From: |
"pjane64" <pcassia@janeraeburn.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:38:26 -0000 |
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> I have joined the list; I just haven't gotten up the
> courage to speak up yet... I'm actually very
> interested in becoming a priestess, m'self..
Wonderful! When you apply for priesthood, the Pontificial College looks
for evidence that you already study and practice the Religio Romana, so
that you can be an effective spokeswoman for the Religio and for the
deity of your choice. So please don't wait to get started! There are
some wonderful books listed in the Macellum that will help you learn
more, and the folks on the Religio list can often answer questions or
point you toward useful resources.
Again, welcome!
Patricia Cassia
Senator and Priestess of Minerva
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