| Subject: |
[novaroma] The trip to Oslo! |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:33:45 +0200 |
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Salvete Omnes!
The trip to Oslo was a success! ;-) I met with Illustrus Marcus
Minucius Audens and his wife. We had a lot of time to talk privately
and we also were able to discuss Nova Roma and to just relax and have
a good time. Illustrus Marcus Minucius Audens and his wife Margaret
invited me and my friend Ida to a wonderful dinner at a Spanish
restaurant where we had a great time.
On Sunday we met with representatives of the Legio XV, they showed us
photos and a film. We really enjoyed ourselves and great plans for
the future were discussed.
I am not sure how much of what was discussed that comes true, but I
had a wonderful trip and made both new friends and meet old ones.
I especially would like to thank Marcus Minucius Audens and his wife
Margaret for the wonderful dinner and a really enjoyable company! ;-)
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
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Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
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http://thule.novaroma.org/
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
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Caeso, he who also is known as Christer Edling.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] LUDI CIRCENSES -1 day |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:37:50 +0200 |
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Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.
- 1 day to the end of the subscriptions for the FLOREALES LUDI CIRCENSES!!!
What you are waiting for? You chariot is not ready? Give good hay to your
horses and run in the virtual chartiot races!
We need of 15 runners, there are several places for you.
In this II Edition there are two new rules and the websites of each Factio:
RUSSATA (red): http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/russata
PRAESINA (green):
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/praesina
ALBATA (white): http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/albata
VENETA (blue): http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/veneta
Please, leave your fan messagge in the forum of the websites.
The Cohors Aedilis Caeso Fabius Quintilianus organizes the second tourn of
our chariot races, the annual virtual championship. I'm happy to say you
that we have updated the Ludi with new features and rules and we are sure
you like their.
The regulations of the Ludi Circenses are at
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/floreales/chariotraces.htm.
Every player have to send own subscription to piteas@jazzfiesta.com [Gnaeus
Salix Galaicus] with the subject "Ludi Circensis", within the following
informations:
*His/her name in Nova Roma
*The name of his/her driver
*The name of his/her chariot
*His/her tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals (see point 2)
*His/her tactics for the Finals (see point 2)
*The name of his/her "factio" or team (green, red, blue or white)
The subscriptions must be sent before APRIL 30, 2002. Every player only will
send one chariot.
Six (6) new race tactics are possible:
1) To hurry in the last laps
2) To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus.
3) To support a constant pace
4) To lash the rivals
5) To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
6) To hurry in the straight lines
Each player have the possibility to change his/her tactics if he/she runs in
the Final. He/she can send a tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals and a
tactics for the Final race.
The Winner of the Final will be the Winner of the 1st Ludi Circensis and
will publish on the Ludi Florales Website
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/floreales and in the Main
Mailing List of Nova Roma at 2nd May, 2002.
There will other races during the Ludi of the 2755. The best 4 runners of
the year will run in the Final Chariot Race in November.
NOVA ROMANS, ARE YOU ABLE TO DRIVE A CHARIOT IN THE CIRCUS? YES? SHOW US !!!
Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
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Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] The religious Celebrations of Flora |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:22:28 +0200 |
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Salvete Quirites!
I hereby announce the religious Celebrations of Flora at the
following page:
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/floreales/flora.htm
These texts are collected by Pontifex Antonius Gryllus Graecus and he
has added his advice to it. Please show your devotion and respect for
this wonderful (just look at her sculpture ;-) ) Goddess!
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
************************************************
The homepage of Senior Curule Aedile
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
************************************************
The homepage of the Nova Roma Provincia Thule:
http://thule.novaroma.org/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
************************************************
Caeso, he who also is known as Christer Edling.
************************************************
PRIVATE PHONE: +90 - 10 09 10
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Trina Comita |
| From: |
Matt Haase <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:24:39 -0500 (CDT) |
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Forwarded from Senator Titus Labienus:
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Salvete omnes
This post is a bit tardy because I'm still having a great deal of trouble
getting messages to Yahoo groups. Some lists work just fine; others seem not
to like me. Since my original attempt to send this has yet to appear, it looks
like this remains one of the difficult lists.
"I freely admit that all I know about this topic is of what I read in this
post, so please don't be offended if I get a few things wrong."
And I hope that you won't mind my correcting you in some places.
"In the system that ancients used, or at least in the later Republic,
there were two Comitas: the Centuriata (sp) and the Tribuna
(sp)."
Actually, there were three comitia. These were the Comitia Centuriata, the
Comitia Populi Tributa, and the Concilium Plebis (which we call the Comitia
Plebis Tributa).
"The Centuriata was only for those in the Legions and the officers' votes
counted for more than the common footsoldier's."
Not really. Originally, a citizen's century was determined by the century in
which that citizen would serve in times of war. This fell by the wayside
slowly over time, and was not particularly true by the end of the Republic.
Also, while it is true that only male citizens--who were required to serve in
the legions in time of need--could vote, the elderly and infirm were also
allowed to vote even though they could not serve in the legions. And, even
prior to Marius' reforms which removed the property requirement for
legionaries, the head count were allowed to vote (though they were consigned to
the bottom century).
Throughout the Republic, the citizenry were divided among five classes by
wealth. The wealthiest were in the first class and the poorest were in the
fifth class. These classes were made of successively fewer centuries, with the
fifth class having the fewest. In this way, the poorest citizens had the least
effective vote, since only the aggregate vote of each century mattered. Also,
votes cast by centuries were counted from richest to least wealthy, which meant
that the last centuries often never had their votes counted because the matter
would already be decided by the time the rogators reached them.
The usual rationale provided for giving more power to the wealthy was that
those with more money gave more to the defense of the city, and should
therefore have a greater say in its affairs. The debate over this argument's
validity continues today.
"The Tribuna was all the other free men and it had all of them divided into
tribes, Urban tribes for those that lived within the walls of Rome, and Rural
tribes for all the rest of Latium. The problem with this was that certain
corrupt Senators only had to convince a few rural citizens in order to outvote
all the urban tribes. Even if all however many in the urban tribes got
together, they still only had one vote per tribe. So the rural tribes were more
powerful in that they didn't have to have as many per tribe and they still got
their one vote. There were also many more rural tribes than urban, so it was
easy for the rural tribes to outvote the urban tribes."
This is essentially true. Since only the wealthy could easily afford to travel
to Rome to attend a vote, only the wealthy and their clients tended to show up
to vote in the rural tribes.
Both the Comitia Populi Tributa (often just called the Comitia Tributa) and the
Concilium Plebis were divided by tribe. The primary difference between the two
was that patricians were forbidden from voting in the Concilium Plebis.
"From what I understand of NR's Comitia system, they are kind of mixed, keeping
the idea of tribes and centuries."
NR's comitia are actually quite similar in both form and function to the
ancient comitia. The substantial differences all make the system less
oligarchic than the ancient system. First, a citizen's class is dependent upon
service to the Republic, not wealth. Second, all voting citizens are spread
relatively evenly among the rural tribes. Only those who fail to vote in the
main elections in December are placed in the urban tribes, and then only for so
long as they continue to fail to vote in the main elections. And, it is the
tribal comitia that have enacted the majority of Nova Roma's laws.
"Even if a Plebian became more rich than some Patricians, he could never become
a Patricians and thus could never sit on the Senate or really aver get a
position of substantial power."
This is just plain wrong. Fairly early in the Republic, the plebs won the
right to become consul--a position that carried automatic inclusion in the
Senate. Eventually, they could hold any seat in the government, and could
serve in most of the priesthoods. C Marius, who was consul seven times and
arguably the most important man in Rome for many years, was a plebeian from
Arpinium. (To be absolutely correct, I should note that his family had just
received equestrian status when he was born.)
Indeed, throughout the Republic the plebeians steadily gained power. By the
time of Caesar and Pompeius, it was the Concilium Plebis that initiated and
enacted the vast majority of leges, and wealth was arguably more important than
family in gaining and maintaining political power. When Divus Augustus assumed
the mantle of Princeps, he was especially careful to arrogate the power of the
tribuni plebis to himself.
"From what I understand, though I don't know the specifics, can't a Plebian
become a Patrician in NR through some process?"
There are two methods for a plebeian to join the ordo patricius in NR. First,
he or she may leave his or her current gens and be adopted by a patrician
paterfamilias. Second, his or her gens may be elevated to patrician status en
masse when there is a vacancy in the ordo patricius (i.e. when there are fewer
than 30 patrician gentes). Both of these methods were available to the
ancients, though the mechanism and consequences were different for the
elevation of an ancient familia versus the elevation of a Nova Roman gens.
"Another way that we are much more far than the ancient system is that women
would have never been able to hold the positions that they do in NR. Women were
treated almost as badly as the slaves as far as their rights went."
Absolutely true, though women did enjoy substantially greater protection under
the law than slaves did. Essentially, free women were treated as though they
were free children.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Movie Script |
| From: |
"otto_von_sitter" <otto_von_sitter@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:18:42 -0000 |
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Hehe, how about a Nova Roman GLADIATOR? Hehe!
Marcus Cornelius Tiberius
--- In novaroma@y..., "gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@c...>
wrote:
> The complaint over the "lack of culture" made me chuckle a
bit.
>
> Recently, I bought the DVD of SPARTACUS at the Naval
Exchange here in
> GTMO. One of the other soldiers in the house hooked up his
> Playstation to the TV, and I was able to watch SPARTACUS
again.
>
> I wondered what a Nova Roma-produced movie might be like.
>
> I downloaded a transcription of the SPARTACUS script, and
began to
> imagine Nova Romans in place of the movie cast.
>
> Instead of Spartacus, there is FLACCUS. The role of Crassus
vanishes
> and QUINTUS FABIUS MAXIMUS takes his place. The Tony
Curtis
> character of Antoninus is replaced by SOLARIS. And Flaccus
has as
> his Gladiator friends brave warriors such as PETRUS,
VENATOR,
> FORTUNATAS, NERVA, and MARCUS OCTAVIUS.
>
> CASSIUS might appear in place of Grachus, with APULUS
CAESAR as his
> protege, and PATRICIA as one of his many slave women.
>
> How would the scenes change? How much action and how
much love-
> interest? The script would naturally have to be revised a bit.
>
> Gaius Cassius Nerva
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Nova Roma Movie Script |
| From: |
"M. Octavius Solaris" <hendrik.meuleman@pi.be> |
| Date: |
Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:45:20 +0200 |
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Salve Nerva;
I'm very curious about the story, and prepared to laugh, even if it is at
myself! :o).
Vale bene!
Solaris
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Commentarius Academiae |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:06:08 +0100 (BST) |
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Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.
Ex Officio Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae,
Recently, the first course of the Academia, a basic course about Nova
Roma, imparted by the illustrous senator Titus Labienus Fortunatus
has ended. This course was a great success, and the Triumviratum
Academiae would like to publicly thank senator Fortunatus for his
outstanding work.
At this very moment, another course is in progress; a basic Roman
history course imparted by Gnaeus Salix Galaicus.
As for our future courses, we have already many students subscribed
to those courses we are planning for the near future. Here you have
some statistics:
The Basic Course About Nova Roma 2
14 subscriptions
The Basic Course about Roman Philosophy I
17 subscriptions
The Basic Course about Religio Romana I
28 subscriptions
The Basic Course about Roman History I
32 subscriptions (The course has started and no more subscriptions are
accepted)
So, as you can see, the Academia experiment is being a full success!
Currently, we are looking for additional praeceptores (teachers). If ou
would like to work for the Academia as a praeceptor, or if you
would like to suggest a different course, please contact the procurator
Academiae Caius Curius Saturninus at:
insulaumbra@fiasco.fi
We are awaiting your e-mails!
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Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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