| Subject: |
[novaroma] Mother's Day |
| From: |
AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 11 May 2002 20:28:47 -0700 (PDT) |
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Avete,
I just wanted to say Happy Mother's Day to all the
mothers in Nova Roma!
May the Gods bless all of you on this special day!
Valete,
Antonia Cornelia Octaviana
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Staples |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 15:26:05 -0000 |
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Salve,
The discussion about the silver staples found during excavations of a
Roman fort in Britain is interesting but most seem to be looking at
them and interpeting them from a modern point of view of hygenics,
ect.
I suspect the choice of silver for staples over ferrous metals had
nothing to do with hypoallergenics. As pointed out ferrous metals
rust, and in the case of Britain's wet climate ferrous staples would
have been in constant need of replacement. Logistically impractical
in such a climate.
>From another logistics standpoint; metal staples are much more
practical than sinew for binding wounds. Sinew once cut and removed
from the wound is expended and needs to be replaced. Metal staples
on the other hand can be reforged and reused.
As for hygenic standards, the wounds that staples were used to close
were of far greater risk of infection than any wounds the staples
themselves might have caused.
Cosmetically speaking prevention of scaring wasn't an issue.
Stopping the flow of blood from the body was the objective. Scars
were "badges of honor" not the "blemishes" we think of today.
Battlefield surgery is not pretty today and even less so back then.
The object is to repair a part of the military machine and restore it
to working order as quickly as possible. A wound that may require a
foot or more of sinew would take a battlefield surgeon a long time to
sew up, where as a few staples could close the wound quickly and on
to the next.
Pax
Quintus Cassius Calvus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Information on tunic colors needed!!!!! |
| From: |
"jmath669642reng" <jmath669642reng@webtv.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 16:35:11 -0000 |
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Gentlemen;
In regard to the discussion of tunic colors for the Roman Legions, may I direct your attention to the Militarium archives where a similar discussion was carried on some weeks ago. A doctoral student from Germany indicated that this controversey had been settled years ago, and in proof of his statement, he offered three references, all of which were German in nature and language. However, he did not offer an English translation or a more detailed reference to the question itself.
Therefore, based on this doctoral student's determination to the Militarium, I can only suppose that the final answer to your questions lies within these references. All we need, therefore, is access to the references, and perhaps some librarian will be able to determine the page numbers / line numbers in each reference, that answers this basic question.
In order to obtain that kind of cooperation, we will have to ask our doctoral student for more precise information, or failing that, locate these indicated texts in some German Historical Library, and ask one of our German translaters to translate the answers into English.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
--- In novaroma@y..., tiberius.ann@b... wrote:
> Salve iterum,
>
> >True, with the basic colors of red, yellow, and blue one can create
> >any color under the sun. A multi-colored tunic was most likely woven
> >using individually colored threads rather than dying a whole piece of
> >cloth (I am not aware of tie-dye being fashionable before the 60's,
> >but I may be wrong <grin>) At the time of hand weaving this would
> >take considerable time and effort, not to mention such a tunic would
> >be rather expensive and out of the reach of the common person.
>
> Well, I try to find out as much as possible, and there is nothing that keeps
> me from looking into the more expensive tunics as well as the cheapest possible.
> The more information there is, the better. Thanks very much to everybody,
> who has or will post on this issue.
>
> Respectfully, Tiberius Annaeus Otho
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Historical Roman Architechture List |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 14:32:25 -0400 (EDT) |
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Citizens of Nova Roma;
In keeping with my promise, I have just today created the subject list
for those citizens who might be interested in any aspect of ancient
Roman Architecture. I have included on the list all the NR past messages
relating to such. I will also research the Miitarium and Egressus lists
for past messages as well.
I invite any and all NR citizens who may have an interest in such, to
join this list as they may desire to do so. However, since this list is
an outgrowth of the Sodalitas Militarium, I would ask those interested
citizens to join the Militarium as well. All that is required is a
message to the Militarium Beneficarius Pompeia Strabo asking to join at:
trop99@hotmail.com
The HistRomArch List is unmoderated at the present time and will remain
so, as long as those posting to the list do so in a manner keeping with
the decorum and attitude of gaining information, expected in Nova Roma.
Generally speaking, the Main List Guide Lines will prevail here. Enjoy
yourselves and use this list as you will. If in the fullness of time,
enough people are interested in creating a Sodalitas Architechturas,
then we can proceed in that direction as well.
Respectfully Submitted;
Marcus Minucius Audens
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] hi i am in salt lake HELP!!! |
| From: |
"william wheeler" <holyconelia@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 19:44:05 +0000 |
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I need some help i am in salt lake utah,visiting with some cornelia
and i needs some help .
is there social services( free food box)( someone robed them) other (cus
the conrelia are pagan)in salt lake city other then the mormon
?
vale
Marcus Cornelius Felix
Pontitff
Lictor Curiatus
Legate America Boreoccidentalis Minore
Sacerdos Primus America Boreoccidentalis
Gens Sacerdos Cornelia
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Quaestor candidacy of Serapio - VENATIONES |
| From: |
"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 22:13:13 -0000 |
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Citizens of Nova Roma,
I am not taking lightly my candidacy as Quaestor of our Aedilis
Plaebis Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, and to prove it to you I
immediately make something concrete.
You can read a more detailed programm about my proposal for
VENATIONES in Nova Roma through the link (venationes) on my candidacy
web page: http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
I strongly invite you to visit it!!!!
http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
VALETE OPTIME
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
***Candidate for Quaestor***
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Italiae
Dominus Praefectus Sodalitatis Egressus
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Serapio: http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
Venationes: http://www.geocities.com/mcserapio/venationes
Provincia Italia: http://italia.novaroma.org
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] A story for Lemuria |
| From: |
"n_cassius_niger" <menippus@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 22:18:59 -0000 |
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N. Cassius Niger Novoromanis Omnibus S.P.D.
In honor of the Lemuria, I would like to share an interesting story
that was recounted by Pliny the Younger in his Epistulae. It is a
ghost story, and most importantly, one of a handful of original
sources that point to the existence in the Greco-Roman world of
belief in ghosts and hauntings, as we know them. Pliny recounted it
as a true event. It is a creepy story, but with some comic relief as
well. If there is interest, I can post the original Latin text as
well. (It's Letter 7.27.5 if anyone is interested)
"In Athens there was a large and spacious house but it was infamous
and unwholesome as well. Through the silence of the night, if one
listened sharply, the sound of iron chains echoed. Soon an image
would appear, old and having been consumed with emaciation and
squalor. Its beard fallen down and hair bristling; its shins in
shackles and its hands wearing chains, it would shake them. From
thenceforward the inhabitants from fear spent the night awake in
sadness and dread. In increasing dread, sickness and death followed
the wakefulness. Now during the day as well, although the image had
departed, the memory of the image used to wander about on the eyes
and longer was the fear than the cause of the fear. So having been
deserted and condemned to solitude the house was relinquished to
that monster; however, it was advertised if anyone ignorant of how
great the evil was wanted to buy or rent the house. The philosopher
Athenodorus came to Athens and read the sign. When the price was
heard, because its cheapness was suspect, he asked around about the
house. He learned the whole story and nonetheless, in fact so much
more, he rents the house.
When it began to become night, Athenodorus ordered his belongings to
be spread out in the first part of the house, and then he asked for
his tablets, pen and lamp. He dismissed everyone into the interior
of the house. Then he turned his mind, eyes, and hand to writing so
that an empty mind doesn't hear phantoms or creates empty fears for
himself.
First, everywhere was the silence of the night, then iron being
struck together and chains being moved. Still, he didn't lift his
eyes or put back his pen, but held his mind firm. The crashing
became frequent, it came nearer…and now it was in the threshold…then
it was as if it was past the threshold. He looked up; he saw and
recognized the ghost he was told about. It was standing and
motioning with its finger, like one beckoning. Athenodorus signified
with his hand that it should wait and he returned to writing. The
ghost made a noise with his chains on the writer's head, he looked
up again and the same as before the ghost motioned with his finger.
Without delay, he picked up his lamp and followed. It went with slow
steps, as if heavy with chain. After it turned aside in the
courtyard, it suddenly melted away deserting its companion.
Having been deserted, Athenodorus plucked some grass and leaves and
placed them to mark the spot. Next day, he went to the magistrate,
he advised him to order that spot be dug up. Bones tangled in
fetters were found, whose body had been left in chains putrefied
with age and consumed by the earth. The bones were collected and
publicly buried. Thereafter the house was ritually cleansed and was
free from ghosts."
I hope you enjoyed this story. What I learned from it was that
Athenodorus showed great firmitas and severitas in dealing with the
ghost. He was not going to allow a ghost to undermine the natural
order, nor would he allow superstition to rule his mind. With sense
of purpose and gravity, he overcame nature and earned its respect.
Si vales, valeo
N. Cassius Niger
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| Subject: |
RE: [novaroma] Re: Information on tunic colors needed!!!!! |
| From: |
"Christopher Duemmel" <cduemmel@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 12:41:54 -0400 |
|
If you would be so kind to forward said references, I'll see what I can do
about getting translations and corresponding researcs.
-----Original Message-----
From: jmath669642reng [mailto:jmath669642reng@webtv.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 12:35 PM
To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Information on tunic colors needed!!!!!
Gentlemen;
In regard to the discussion of tunic colors for the Roman Legions, may I
direct your attention to the Militarium archives where a similar discussion
was carried on some weeks ago. A doctoral student from Germany indicated
that this controversey had been settled years ago, and in proof of his
statement, he offered three references, all of which were German in nature
and language. However, he did not offer an English translation or a more
detailed reference to the question itself.
Therefore, based on this doctoral student's determination to the
Militarium, I can only suppose that the final answer to your questions lies
within these references. All we need, therefore, is access to the
references, and perhaps some librarian will be able to determine the page
numbers / line numbers in each reference, that answers this basic question.
In order to obtain that kind of cooperation, we will have to ask our
doctoral student for more precise information, or failing that, locate these
indicated texts in some German Historical Library, and ask one of our German
translaters to translate the answers into English.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
--- In novaroma@y..., tiberius.ann@b... wrote:
> Salve iterum,
>
> >True, with the basic colors of red, yellow, and blue one can create
> >any color under the sun. A multi-colored tunic was most likely woven
> >using individually colored threads rather than dying a whole piece of
> >cloth (I am not aware of tie-dye being fashionable before the 60's,
> >but I may be wrong <grin>) At the time of hand weaving this would
> >take considerable time and effort, not to mention such a tunic would
> >be rather expensive and out of the reach of the common person.
>
> Well, I try to find out as much as possible, and there is nothing that
keeps
> me from looking into the more expensive tunics as well as the cheapest
possible.
> The more information there is, the better. Thanks very much to
everybody,
> who has or will post on this issue.
>
> Respectfully, Tiberius Annaeus Otho
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] I. Minicius Sparsus for Quaestor |
| From: |
"Ianus Minicius Sparsus" <jfernandez50@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 12 May 2002 23:52:51 +0200 |
|
Salve cives Novae Romae,
I think that Serapio had a good idea when he presented his proposals in a web site. So you will also have access to my proposal in my own modest web site, the one I have indicated below. I didn't want to take too much time in its design because it is just a way to introduce myself to you, people of Nova Roma, and I am pretty busy right now with the preparation of a course for the Academia Thules together with T. Minicius Catulus and with the Certamen Rethoricae Lucius Annaeus Seneca organized by the Provincia Hispania.
My web site is: http://es.geocities.com/jfernandez50
I. Minicius Sparsus
Scriba Propraetoris Hispaniae
- Candidate for Quaestor -
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