| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Congratulations, Illustrus Antonia Cornelia Octaviana! |
| From: |
AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salve,
Gratias and I will look forward to being of service in
your endeavors for Nova Roma.
Vale,
Antonia Cornelia Octaviana
--- Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com>
wrote:
> Salve Illustrus Antonia Cornelia Octaviana!
>
> Congratulations to your appointment as a Pontifex of
> Nova Roma
> Illustrus Antonia Cornelia Octaviana! I hope that
> You as a Pontifex
> and I as the Senior Curule Aedile will have a good
> cooperation in the
> future as You have the task among the Pontiffs of
> helping to
> coordinate the various festivals and rituals inside
> Nova Roma.
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
> Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
> Propraetor of Thule
> AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
>
> The Opinions expressed are my own,
> and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
> ************************************************
> The homepage of Senior Curule Aedile
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
> http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
> ************************************************
> The homepage of the Nova Roma Provincia Thule:
> http://thule.novaroma.org/
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
> "Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark
> side."
> ************************************************
> Caeso, he who also is known as Christer Edling.
> ************************************************
> PRIVATE PHONE: +90 - 10 09 10
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: Roman jewelry |
| From: |
AntoniaCorneliaOctavia <europamoon7@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 17:28:39 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salve,
When I clicked on the website, I received a cannot
find this website message.
Vale,
Antonia Cornelia Octaviana
--- mcserapio <mcserapio@yahoo.it> wrote:
> AVE JANOS SCORIK
>
> I think you can find what you are looking for in
> the file section
> of the Provincia Italia mailing list, where I
> recently sent several
> photos of reproduction of original roman rings.
> The folder you have to look in is called "gioielli
> romani" and the
> URL of the Provincia Italia mailing list is
> http://yahoo.groups.com/group/nr_italia
> I hope you will be satisfied!
>
> respectfully,
>
> MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
> ***Candidate for Quaestor***
> My Page: http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
> Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Italiae
> Dominus Praefectus Sodalitatis Egressus
> -------------------
> Provincia Italia: http://italia.novaroma.org
>
>
> --- In novaroma@y..., "janos csorik" <csorik@h...>
> wrote:
> > SALVE
> >
> > I AM INTERESTED IN PHOTOS OF ALL KIND OF ROMAN
> RINGS (SENATOR OR
> ANY
> > PATRICIAN RING).
> >
> > IF YOU CAN HELP ME PLEASE SEND IT TO: csorik@h...
> >
> > thank you very much
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] legio XIV |
| From: |
"artoriusp" <rabotnik@wp.pl> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 21:51:17 -0000 |
|
Salvete!
im looking for the official or unofficial name of legio XIV
could sombody help me
best regards
Valete bene!
Petrus Domitianus
Propraetor Venediae
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Notice of Provincial Gathering: Canada Orientalis |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 00:57:41 -0000 |
|
Salvete Omnes:
Canada Orientalis Provincia citizens will be meeting to enjoy
eachother's company and celebrate our Roman heritage this Saturday,
May 18 in Barrie, Ontario.
Barrie is about an hour outside Toronto, Ontario.
There are several hotels to choose from, thanks to the information
provided by Provincia Legatus, Marcus Darius Firmitus.
For information on these, and where most of the gang will be checking
in please do not hesitate to email me.
It would be a nice gathering to attend for those in our abutting
provincia, who would not find it too cumbersome a drive.
And.....as always, I would like to remind our American citizens that
this is a financially affordable trip, as the American dollar goes
quite far up here.
Something to consider...we would love to meet with you.
Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
Propraetrix Canada Orientalis
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Items for Comitia Vote |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 20:10:01 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Salvete Cives,
I intend to summon the Comitia Populi Tributa within the next few days
(pending finalizing the agenda and obtaining augury) to vote on the
following items:
I. Election of a Quaestor.
II. Lex Octavia de Sermonis
- placing list moderation within the Praetores' jurisdiction
III. L. Cornelius' Census Lex
...and the Comitia Centuriata to vote on these items:
I. Constitutional amendment reducing number of centuries
II. Lex that sets the number of centuries as a function of population
size, operating within the newly-modified Constitutional
requirements.
I will post these items tonight and tomorrow.
Valete, Octavius.
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] CPT Item II: List moderation |
| From: |
Matt Haase <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 20:14:53 -0500 (CDT) |
|
The proposed Lex Octavia de Sermone:
I. Definitions
a. "public forum" is defined as any system of communications where
contributions from persons other than its maintainer are distributed
or made available to other subscribers, including but not limited
to mailing lists, real-time chat systems, web-based bulletin boards.
b. "moderation" refers to exercise of powers provided by the
software used to implement public fora to approve, reject,
pre-screen, or delete messages, approve or reject pending
subscribers, and perform other administrative duties.
c. a "moderator" is a person with moderation authority with
regard to a particular public forum.
II. The office of Curator Sermonis (also called Curator Sermonem) is
hereby abolished.
III. The Praetores are hereby given the powers and duties of moderators
for all public fora sponsored or owned by the central government
of Nova Roma, save for those exceptions listed below. They are
empowered to use all moderation features provided, subject to
Constitutional free speech guarantees, Tribunician intercessio, and
any leges explicitly setting list policies. They may delegate such
authority to their appointed scribae.
The Praetores are empowered to create and enforce policies of
acceptable behavior in the public fora.
IV. Scope
a. Public fora under the jurisdiction of the Praetores shall
include the general discussion mailing list (currently
"novaroma@yahoogroups.com"), the announcements mailing list
(currently "novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com"), the web-based
message board linked to from www.novaroma.org, any chat
system in use on www.novaroma.org, and any other means of
communications designated as "public fora" by the Senate,
except as detailed below.
b. The web site www.novaroma.org and all sites maintained by elected
or appointed magistrates as part of their duties are not considered
public fora, except for any features of the site where users other
than the maintainers of those sites may submit content for public
consumption, such as "message boards".
c. The newsletter, including any part thereof where contributions
are accepted from the public, is exempt and shall remain under the
control of the Curator Differium.
d. The communications channels of sodalitates and provinciae are
under the jurisdiction of those organizations and therefore exempt.
e. Fora administered by the Tribunes for the purpose of Plebeian
discussion are exempt.
---
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] CPT Item I: Quaestor |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 20:23:35 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Salvete Cives,
The following candidates have declared for Quaestor:
Manius Constantinus Serapio
Gaius Lanius Falco
Ianus Minicius Sparsus
If I have overlooked anyone, please let me know right away.
If anyone else wishes to stand for office, you still have a day or two
left to do so - I won't post the election schedule and final list of
candidates until tomorrow night at the earliest.
Vale, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Roman Days |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 20:30:18 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Salvete Cives,
ROMAN DAYS is approaching. This annual event is held in Glenn Dale,
Maryland (east coast of USA) and is organized by the Twentieth Legion.
This year, it is on June 8th and 9th, a Saturday and Sunday.
I will be attending (for the first time). Senators M. Cassius Iulianus
and Patricia Cassia will also be there.
Who else plans to attend? Certainly, I'd like to meet as many Nova Romans
as possible.
More information can be found at: http://www.larp.com/legioxx/rdays.html
Valete, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] CPT Item III: Census |
| From: |
Matt Haase <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 20:39:24 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Item III:
Pursuant to the Constitution of Nova Roma (II.A. 4 and IV.A.1.b) the
following law is hereby enacted to determine the accurate numbers of
citizens who make up Nova Roma.
I. A Census of all citizens of Nova Roma should be done every 2 years.
This would be the responsibility of the Censors.
II. The Nova Roma Census will last for a period of 8 weeks, and must be
completed by the Ides of September. The start and end of the census period
will be announced by the Censors on the NR website, official lists, and in
the major forums. The official lists are currently located at
novaroma@yahoogroups.com and NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com.
Notification must also be published on the Nova Roma Message board.
III. The Census will consist of the following:
A. Active citizens are those citizens that do not need to be contacted by
the Censors to determine if they are apart of Nova Roma:
1. Those citizens who voted in the main election (in December) shall be
considered "censi."
2. Those citizens who have paid taxes for the current calendar year shall
be considered "censi".
3. Paterfamiliae who have successfully responded to the yearly registration
of the Lex Cornelia de Tabulis Gentium Novaromanarum Agendis shall be
considered “censi”.
4. Persons who became citizens during the current calendar year shall be
considered "censi".
IV. Inactive citizens are those citizens who fail to meet at least one of
the conditions in IV A. The following will lay down some of the procedures
to contact inactive citizens. Inactive citizens are those citizens who will
need to be contacted by the National Census. The following methods will be
used to contact inactive citizens:
A. Bulk Email. At least two attempts should be done to contact citizen
via this avenue.
B. Individual email. If a Citizen email bounces back as invalid from the
bulk email, the Censors shall send them an individual email to verify there
was not a problem with an email service filter.
C. Phone calls. If a Citizen is unreachable due to an invalid email
address, the Censors shall attempt to contact them by phone. This may be
done on the Provincial level under the direction of the Censors if possible.
D. Surface mail. "Inactive" Citizens who are unreachable by email or
phone shall receive a mailing from the Censors. This may also be done on the
Provincial level if possible. Surface mail information should be forwarded
to whatever official NR address is specified by the
Censors. Surface mail information must reach the Censors before the Ides
of September.
The Current Official address of all Nova Roman Mail correspondence is:
Nova Roma
P.O. Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090
At the time of the passage of this lex, the above address is the official
address, if the official address changes in the future; the new address
should be utilized.
E. A temporary banner and link will be put on the main NR website for the
duration of the Census, where individual citizens may input their
information to comply with the Census.
V. All communicated information pertaining to the Census shall be noted in
a database on the Nova Roma Website, the address of which will be specified
by the Censores at the beginning of the Registration Period. Citizen
information may be inputted into this database by the Censores, their
appointed assistants, or by the individual citizens.
VI. By the Ides of August, the Censors should post a list to the official
email list of Nova Roma displaying the names of those citizens who have
failed to respond.
VII. If a citizen fails to respond to the contact attempts, that person
will no longer be considered a citizen of Nova Roma. His name will be
stricken from the Album Civium and if he/she is a Pater/Mater, the Censors
will abide by the Constitution, any laws, and any Censorial edict if the
appointment of a paterfamilias is necessary. However, the Censors have the
discretion to waive this clause if both Censors feel there are legitimate
reasons for the citizen to remain incommunicado.
VIII. If a citizen who knows of an extended period of unavailability that
will coincide with the census, he may contact the censors up to 3 months
before the census is to begin to inform them of his active status and his
desire to be counted in the census. Such contact will be considered by the
censors as having fulfilled the citizen's duty to reply during the census
period. Proxies are not permitted during the National Census effort.
IX. A former citizen may appeal to the Senate to have his removal from the
Album Civium reconsidered. Such an appeal must be filed with the consuls
within 90 days of the former citizens removal from the Album Civium. A
2/3rds vote of the Senate is needed to overturn the decision of the censors.
X. A budget is to be provided for the Censors' Office to offset costs for
conducting the census. This budget is to be included only for the years that
a Census takes place. The amount to be set aside would be established by
the Senate of Nova Roma.
XI. The First Census will take place during the Consulship of Marcus
Octavius Germanicus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (2755 AUC).
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Sacerdos Vestae - Lucia Ambrosia Valeria |
| From: |
Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 18:45:51 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete Omnes,
A hearty welcome to our new Sacerdos of Vesta Lucia AMbrosia. How wonderful to have another dedicated citizen for the priesthood.
Welcome, and best of luck!
Valete, Maximina Octavia
cassius622@aol.com wrote: Salvete Omnes,
It is my pleasure to announce that the Collegium Pontificum has voted in
Lucia Ambrosia Valeria as a Sacerdos Vestae of Nova Roma!
Lucia Ambrosia has proven herself to be dedicated to Vesta, and knowledgeable
about the Religio Romana. I am sure she will do excellent work in serving
Vesta within Nova Roma. I publicly ask that Lucia Ambrosia Valeria's name be
added to the Priesthood pages of the Nova Roma website.
As a Sacerdos (priestess) of Vesta, Lucia Ambrosia will be responsible for
helping to keep a sacred flame to Vesta on behalf of Nova Roma itself. She
will also be responsible for helping to restore the worship of Vesta, and
presiding over the times sacred to Vesta in the Roman calendar. I am sure she
will do an outstanding job, and hope that all will join me in welcoming her
as a Priestess of Vesta!
Ave, Lucia Ambrosia Valeria! :)
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus
on behalf of the Collegium Pontificum
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Pontiff - Antonia Cornelia Octavia |
| From: |
Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 18:42:52 -0700 (PDT) |
|
<P> Salvete Omnes,
<P>It is such a pleasure to welcome Antonia and to
have a woman Pontiff for Nova Roma. I am certain
that she will do a tremndous job as she has already
put forth a great deal of effort and research.
<P>Nova Roma is very lucky to have such a dedicated
person in the priesthood!
<P>Welcome Pontiff Antonia and best of luck!
<P>Valete, Maximina Octavia
<P>
<P>
<P> <B><I>cassius622@aol.com</I></B> wrote:
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Omnes, <BR><BR>It is my pleasure to announce that the
Collegium Pontificum has voted in <BR>Antonia Cornelia
Octavia as a Pontiff of Nova Roma!<BR><BR>Antonia
Cornelia is the founder of the "Temple of Religio
Romana", as many of <BR>us know from her regular event
postings. Antonia has shown herself to be very
<BR>knowledgeable in and active on the behalf of the
Religo Romana, and it is a <BR>pleasure to have her
occupying an 'official' Religio position inside NR at
<BR>last! I publicly ask that Antonia Cornelia's name
be added to the Priesthood <BR>pages of the Nova Roma
website. <BR><BR>As a Pontiff, Antonia is responsible
for helping to coordinate the various <BR>festivals
and rituals inside Nova Roma. I am sure she will do an
outstanding <BR>job, and hope that all will join me in
welcoming her as a member of the <BR>Collegium
Pontificum!<BR><BR>Ave, Antonia Cornelia Octavia!
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Appointment of Antonia Cornelia |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 18:53:18 -0700 |
|
Avete Omnes et Family,
It brings me sincere joy and admiration that Antonia Cornelia has been
accepted within the Collegium. This has been long and difficult journey
that has been traveled to get to this point. And to reach this
conclusion shows that despite the arduous journey the conclusion has
been worth the effort.
As her Paterfamilias and as her friend I wish her sincere
congratulations and I want to offer my congratulations to the College of
Pontiffs for including her in your noble ranks!
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Salii Priest - Amulius Claudius Petrus |
| From: |
Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 18:51:36 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete Omnes,
It is especially exciting for me to welcome our new Salii Priest Amelius Claudius Petrus.
He has always been such a fine citizen of very high character and warm demeanor. His great heart and understanding is a welcome addition to our priesthood.
Welcome Esteemed Salli Priest Petrus!
Valete, Maximina Octavia
cassius622@aol.com wrote: Salvete Omnes,
It is my pleasure to announce that the Collegium Pontificum has voted in
Amelius Claudius Petrus Salii Priest of Nova Roma!
Amelius Claudius has proven himself to be dedicated to Mars, and
knowledgeable about the Religio Romana. I am sure he will do credit to this
service to the god Mars. I publicly ask that Amelius Claudius Petrus' name
be added to the Priesthood pages of the Nova Roma website.
As a Salii Priest, Amelius Claudius will be responsible for assisting in the
public worship of Mars at festivals. I am sure he will do an outstanding job,
and hope that all will join me in welcoming him into the Salii Priesthood!
Ave, Amelius Claudius Petrus! :)
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus
on behalf of the Collegium Pontificum
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Flamen Volcanus - Marcus Equitius Paternus |
| From: |
Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 18:54:10 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete Omnes,
Welcome to our New Flamen Volcanus! Best of Luck in your new position!
cassius622@aol.com wrote: Salvete Omnes,
It is my pleasure to announce that the Collegium Pontificum has voted in
Marcus Equitius Paternus as Flamen Volcanus of Nova Roma!
Paternus has shown himself to be knowledgeable in and dedicated to the
Religio Romana. It will be a pleasure to have him occupy this important
Flaminate, and I am certain that he will do an excellent job. I publicly ask
that Marcus Equitius Paternus' name be added to the Priesthood pages of the
Nova Roma website.
As Flamen Volcanus, Paternus will be responsible for working to restore the
worship of Vocanus in Nova Roma, as well as helping to revive his rites and
holding public worship on the days sacred to Volcanus. It will be a pleasure
to see this aspect of the Religio Romana restored in Nova Roma!
Ave, Marcus Equitius Paternus! :)
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus
on behalf of the Collegium Pontificum
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Berenice, Egypt |
| From: |
Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 19:01:52 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete,
Thank you for this post. I am very interested in these articles and I believe they show how important the trade routes were to every aspect of Roman culture including areas of religion.
I really look forward to more of these types of article posted on the main list.
Thank you again for your efforts in this area.
Valete, Maximina Octavia
MarcusAudens@webtv.net wrote: Citizens of Nova Roma;
This is the second of the articles provided to Egressus by Dominus
Praefectus Mannius Constannius Serapio, while in the service of his
country. Again, my thanks for his time and efforts.
Respectfully Submitted;
Marcus Minucius Audens
======================================
Berenice, Egypt:-------
I am in Egypt, in Berenice, a port of the Red Sea during the Ptolemaic
and Roman ages. It was in ancient times the main port for commercial
links (terra marique) between the East and the West, joining the trading
interests of Asia, Arabia, and Africa with the Red Sea and the
Mediterranean Basin. This important trading port worked well from the
3rd Century B.C. up to the 4th Century A.D. In that long stretch of
time, the high point for Berenice was from the 1st Century B.C. up to
the 1st Century A.D.
>From the East arrived spices, silk, pearls, coconuts, incense and myrrh.
>From the West arrived the "young singers," (white skinned girls) for the
Indian harems, red coral, glass, wheat and wine. From Berenice, Eastern
goods were transported through the desert using large camel trains.
Within forty days the goods arrived in Appollonius Mayna (today Edfu), a
riverport on the Nile, and then on to Alexandria by river barge. From
Alexandria, the goods were disbursed throughout the Mediterranean.
Western goods followed a reverse path from Alexandria back upriver and
across the desert to the Red Sea port, to be further sent to ports
bordering on the Indian Ocean.
Excavations are still "in course" and when I was there they had not yet
reached the period stratum for which they were searching. Actual
preliminary excavations which have been made to date, however, are
giving great promise, together with a large amount of detail regarding
the life of the people who lived and worked in Berenice, together with a
significant amount of information about the commercial organization of
the period that was found there.
One of the main problems in Brenice was "watering" the population as
well as supplying water to the ships using the port. A great part of
the water in use came from wells but it has not yet been determined
whether the water supply was piped into the city or brought there by
"water trains" of animals from the well-heads.
In regards to food supplies, the bounty of the sea was heavily relied
upon, and the escavatons clearly show that dependancy. Also in Berenice
there was a very diverse ethnic population, each different group with
thier own religion, customs and beiefs. Archaeologists have found
evidence of several different faith / belief patterns (Egypyian,
Greco-Roman, Eastern and Christain).
In a drift (low hill), at one of the early excavation sites,
archaeologists have found about 200 osipolkol (written Ostraka--baked
clay
fragments) in Greek, dating back to Claudius and Nero. In addition,
there have been found the records of the custom house, with lists of
traders, thier ships, and the goods brought into the port from East and
West (for instance --- wine from Italia). Archaeologists have also
uncovered a building which was used as a "goods shed" In this "shed"
were found several amphoras and the fragments of a staue (perhaps
Isis).
Serapio Sketch #1
Respectfully Submitted;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Special Note:
I have made arrangements with one of my reenactor friends to "scan in"
Serapio's sketches onto the Internet, I have to mail them to
Massachusetts, but they should be on the list in a week or so.
MMA
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 00:34:01 -0000 |
|
A strange message received got in another non-Roman related forum.
"Timore quid ego habeo, ego non sum gaudans. Valde"
Any light on what this means?
Nerva
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 21:19:30 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Salve Nerva,
> A strange message received got in another non-Roman related forum.
>
> "Timore quid ego habeo, ego non sum gaudans. Valde"
<frivolity>
The more quid I have, the more I'm not gardening.
This is apparently by someone who has accumulated enough UK currency
to be able to hire someone else to do his gardening.
</frivolity>
Vale, O.
---
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
"n_cassius_niger" <menippus@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 04:33:54 -0000 |
|
Salve omnes,
I believe it says..."Whatever I have in fear, I am not pleased."
But wouldn't the present participle of gaudeo be gaudens?
Perhaps I'm missing something very obvious, it's currently 12:33
a.m. where I am.
Ego somniosus...
Si vales, valeo
N. Cassius Niger
--- In novaroma@y..., Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote:
>
> Salve Nerva,
>
> > A strange message received got in another non-Roman related
forum.
> >
> > "Timore quid ego habeo, ego non sum gaudans. Valde"
>
> <frivolity>
> The more quid I have, the more I'm not gardening.
>
> This is apparently by someone who has accumulated enough UK
currency
> to be able to hire someone else to do his gardening.
> </frivolity>
>
> Vale, O.
>
>
> ---
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus
> Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
> Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
"G. Noviodunus" <Gaius.Noviodunus@iseli.org> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 06:51:32 +0200 |
|
Salve
> "Timore quid ego habeo, ego non sum gaudans. Valde"
>
> Any light on what this means?
Looks to kitchen latin to me. Probably better:
Timor quem (ego) habeo, me non gaudet. Vale"
But if anyone feels it could be said better, please correct me.
The meaning would be, as N. Cassius Niger dixit, "I'm not pleased by the
fear I have"
Note: I'm not sure if the verb "to have" can be translated by "habeo"
here. Habeo is more like "I'm the owner of, I'm holding".
G. Noviodunus Ferriculus
|
| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 04:03:17 EDT |
|
In a message dated 5/13/02 9:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Gaius.Noviodunus@iseli.org writes:
> Habeo is more like "I'm the owner of, I'm holding".
More correctly "in possession."
Q Fabius Maximus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] House for sale? |
| From: |
Joanne Shaver <merlinia@comcast.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 07:03:36 -0400 |
|
Salvete, all.
It looks like my neighbor will not be coming home after falling (she's
88). The place needs some work on the outside, and a new stove, but if
you're interested in a house in Maplewood, N.J., let me know.
Valete!
-M.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] CPT Item I: Quaestor |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 12:44:01 +0100 (BST) |
|
Salvete Quirites.
--- Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> wrote:
>
> Salvete Cives,
>
> The following candidates have declared for Quaestor:
>
> Manius Constantinus Serapio
> Gaius Lanius Falco
> Ianus Minicius Sparsus
According to the Lex Vedia de Curso Honorum, paragraph II:
"II. No individual may assume the office of one of the ordinarii who
has not been a registered citizen in good standing for at least six
months. Such individuals may run for office prior to completion of this
requirement, but must complete it prior to actually assuming the office
itself."
Unfortunately, the citizen Gaius Lanius Falco has been a citizen since
the 13th of February 2002, and he does not comply with the above
requirement.
You can view the Lex Vedia de Curso Honorum at:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/lex-2001-02-26-i.html
and you can view Gaius Lanius Falco's date of entry in Nova Roma at:
http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/civis?id=3532
I have nothing personal against this citizen, but lex dura, sed lex
(the law is hard, but it is the law).
I wish Gaius Lanius Falco good luck in all his future enterprises.
=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Sacerdos Vestae - Lucia Ambrosia Valeria |
| From: |
Valerian75@aol.com |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 22:41:09 EDT |
|
Salve Maximina Octavia!
Thank you for your warm welcome. I hope that I serve Vesta and Nova Roma
well.
Vale,
Lucia Ambrosia Valeria
Valerian75@aol.com
Salvete Omnes,
A hearty welcome to our new Sacerdos of Vesta Lucia AMbrosia. How wonderful
to have another dedicated citizen for the priesthood.
Welcome, and best of luck!
Valete, Maximina Octavia
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] CPT Item III: Census |
| From: |
"Marcus Flavius Aurelius" <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 12:52:52 +1000 |
|
Why?
Marcus Flavius Aurelius
Durovernium, Australia Orientalis Superior
marcus.flavius@bigpond.com
ICQ: 4895187
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Haase" <haase@konoko.net>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: [novaroma] CPT Item III: Census
Item III:
Pursuant to the Constitution of Nova Roma (II.A. 4 and IV.A.1.b) the
following law is hereby enacted to determine the accurate numbers of
citizens who make up Nova Roma.
I. A Census of all citizens of Nova Roma should be done every 2 years.
This would be the responsibility of the Censors.
II. The Nova Roma Census will last for a period of 8 weeks, and must be
completed by the Ides of September. The start and end of the census period
will be announced by the Censors on the NR website, official lists, and in
the major forums. The official lists are currently located at
novaroma@yahoogroups.com and NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com.
Notification must also be published on the Nova Roma Message board.
III. The Census will consist of the following:
A. Active citizens are those citizens that do not need to be contacted by
the Censors to determine if they are apart of Nova Roma:
1. Those citizens who voted in the main election (in December) shall be
considered "censi."
2. Those citizens who have paid taxes for the current calendar year shall
be considered "censi".
3. Paterfamiliae who have successfully responded to the yearly registration
of the Lex Cornelia de Tabulis Gentium Novaromanarum Agendis shall be
considered "censi".
4. Persons who became citizens during the current calendar year shall be
considered "censi".
IV. Inactive citizens are those citizens who fail to meet at least one of
the conditions in IV A. The following will lay down some of the procedures
to contact inactive citizens. Inactive citizens are those citizens who will
need to be contacted by the National Census. The following methods will be
used to contact inactive citizens:
A. Bulk Email. At least two attempts should be done to contact citizen
via this avenue.
B. Individual email. If a Citizen email bounces back as invalid from the
bulk email, the Censors shall send them an individual email to verify there
was not a problem with an email service filter.
C. Phone calls. If a Citizen is unreachable due to an invalid email
address, the Censors shall attempt to contact them by phone. This may be
done on the Provincial level under the direction of the Censors if possible.
D. Surface mail. "Inactive" Citizens who are unreachable by email or
phone shall receive a mailing from the Censors. This may also be done on the
Provincial level if possible. Surface mail information should be forwarded
to whatever official NR address is specified by the
Censors. Surface mail information must reach the Censors before the Ides
of September.
The Current Official address of all Nova Roman Mail correspondence is:
Nova Roma
P.O. Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090
At the time of the passage of this lex, the above address is the official
address, if the official address changes in the future; the new address
should be utilized.
E. A temporary banner and link will be put on the main NR website for the
duration of the Census, where individual citizens may input their
information to comply with the Census.
V. All communicated information pertaining to the Census shall be noted in
a database on the Nova Roma Website, the address of which will be specified
by the Censores at the beginning of the Registration Period. Citizen
information may be inputted into this database by the Censores, their
appointed assistants, or by the individual citizens.
VI. By the Ides of August, the Censors should post a list to the official
email list of Nova Roma displaying the names of those citizens who have
failed to respond.
VII. If a citizen fails to respond to the contact attempts, that person
will no longer be considered a citizen of Nova Roma. His name will be
stricken from the Album Civium and if he/she is a Pater/Mater, the Censors
will abide by the Constitution, any laws, and any Censorial edict if the
appointment of a paterfamilias is necessary. However, the Censors have the
discretion to waive this clause if both Censors feel there are legitimate
reasons for the citizen to remain incommunicado.
VIII. If a citizen who knows of an extended period of unavailability that
will coincide with the census, he may contact the censors up to 3 months
before the census is to begin to inform them of his active status and his
desire to be counted in the census. Such contact will be considered by the
censors as having fulfilled the citizen's duty to reply during the census
period. Proxies are not permitted during the National Census effort.
IX. A former citizen may appeal to the Senate to have his removal from the
Album Civium reconsidered. Such an appeal must be filed with the consuls
within 90 days of the former citizens removal from the Album Civium. A
2/3rds vote of the Senate is needed to overturn the decision of the censors.
X. A budget is to be provided for the Censors' Office to offset costs for
conducting the census. This budget is to be included only for the years that
a Census takes place. The amount to be set aside would be established by
the Senate of Nova Roma.
XI. The First Census will take place during the Consulship of Marcus
Octavius Germanicus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (2755 AUC).
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Roman Days |
| From: |
Valerian75@aol.com |
| Date: |
Mon, 13 May 2002 22:33:18 EDT |
|
Salvete,
I will be there on Sunday. It will be my first time there too. I can't wait
to meet everyone.
Valete,
Lucia Ambrosia Valeria
Valerian75@aol.com
Sacerdos Vestae
Legate to D.C.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
Salvete Cives,
ROMAN DAYS is approaching. This annual event is held in Glenn Dale,
Maryland (east coast of USA) and is organized by the Twentieth Legion.
This year, it is on June 8th and 9th, a Saturday and Sunday.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 04:53:34 -0000 |
|
Thanks. I tried to figure out some of it with an online Latin
dictionary. I did not find "timore" anywhere, but I did
find "timere".
I think this person is TRYING to say something like "Fear me, for I
am displeased". But he does not know Latin, and is winging it from a
book.
I think I know who the person is now. I won't bore you with the
details of what happened in this forum, but this person is upset he
got caught and banished, and is now trying to be intimidating under
another name.
Thanks a bunch for your effort, and Octavius, nice frivolity!
Nerva
--- In novaroma@y..., "n_cassius_niger" <menippus@a...> wrote:
> Salve omnes,
>
> I believe it says..."Whatever I have in fear, I am not pleased."
>
> But wouldn't the present participle of gaudeo be gaudens?
> Perhaps I'm missing something very obvious, it's currently 12:33
> a.m. where I am.
>
> Ego somniosus...
> Si vales, valeo
>
> N. Cassius Niger
>
>
> --- In novaroma@y..., Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Nerva,
> >
> > > A strange message received got in another non-Roman related
> forum.
> > >
> > > "Timore quid ego habeo, ego non sum gaudans. Valde"
> >
> > <frivolity>
> > The more quid I have, the more I'm not gardening.
> >
> > This is apparently by someone who has accumulated enough UK
> currency
> > to be able to hire someone else to do his gardening.
> > </frivolity>
> >
> > Vale, O.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Marcus Octavius Germanicus
> > Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
> > Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[novaroma] (unknown) |
| From: |
Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 00:14:07 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete omnes,
please find hereafter a following to the story of the
Villa of the Papyri in Herculanum.
Salvete,
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Villa of the Papyri: to dig or to not to dig?
Should excavation continue on the most extensive
classical library yet discovered?
By Cristina Ruiz and Martin Bailey
LONDON. Eight distinguished British and American
classicists are calling for the immediate resumption
of excavation at the Villa of the Papyri at
Herculaneum in Southern Italy. In a letter published
in the London Times, they warned that flooding now
poses a “grave danger” to the site and its precious
library of ancient manuscripts. They also fear that
damage could result from further volcanic eruptions or
earthquakes.
Professor Robert Fowler, a Greek specialist at the
University of Bristol, and seven colleagues from
British and American universities issued an
international appeal: “The excavation must be
completed, and the building preserved. Most
importantly the books must be brought to light. We can
expect to find good contemporary copies of known
masterpieces and to recover works lost to humanity for
two millennia. A treasure of greater cultural
importance can scarcely be imagined.”
Among the authors whose works could lie buried beneath
the volcanic debris are Sophocles, Euripides,
Aristotle, Virgil, Horace and Livy. A full excavation
might cost several million pounds, but this, the
classicists argue, would be a small price to recover
unknown writings by these intellectual giants.
The Villa of the Papyri had been partly excavated in
1752-54, when archaeologists discovered the only
intact library of texts from Roman times. This
important site, which had been buried by the eruption
of Vesuvius in AD 79, appears to have been the seaside
retreat of Calpurnius Piso, the father-in-law of
Julius Caesar. It is still the largest Roman villa
ever found.
What proved most exciting about the Herculaneum villa
was its contents—1,800 carbonised papyri rolls, mainly
philosophical texts in Greek by Philodemus of Gadera.
The excavated papyri were very difficult to decipher
and serious study of them did not begin until the
1970s, when Professor Marcello Gigante of the
University of Naples initiated systematic research on
the scrolls. He died last November and the letter to
The Times expressed concern that with his passing, the
impetus for his project might be lost.
Professor Gigante believed that there were probably
other scrolls buried in the Villa of the Papyri. No
Latin texts had been found and he suggested that these
might have been in a different room. With his
encouragement, further archaeological excavation began
in the early 1990s and this revealed that the villa
was much larger than had been assumed, and that it
originally stretched down towards the sea on four
terraces. It was also suggested that during the
eruption of Vesuvius, efforts had been made to remove
papyri in packing cases.
But work was halted in 1998, when only about a fifth
of the villa had been uncovered. Antonio De Simone,
the archaeologist responsible for the excavations, is
angry. “In Italy our heritage is administered by
officials who often change priorities. It is a
scholarly imperative that we continue with the
excavation.” The site is currently waterlogged and
closed to the public.
Excavate or conserve?
On the face of it, the decision to halt the search for
papyri appears unfortunate, but inquiries by The Art
Newspaper reveal a much more complex situation.
To some extent, there is a divide between classicists
and archaeologists. Classicists are eager for further
texts to study, while archaeologists are only too
aware of the problems of preserving what has been
found. The suggestion is that the signatories of The
Times letter, many of them from Oxford, are living in
ivory towers, far away from the complex and sometimes
murky problems on the ground in Italy.
Andrew Wallace-Hadrill, director of the British School
at Rome and chairman of the international scientific
committee responsible for the Herculaneum Conservation
Project, is a classicist, but he is based in Italy and
also deeply involved in the archaeological scene. He
says that any buried papyri are in no danger from
flooding, since, if they exist, they lie under a deep
deposit of volcanic debris. “The papyri are safe and
will remain so until we start messing around with
them. Any object that is still under the material
remains of a volcanic eruption is in a stable state.
It can not degenerate further.” Although further
volcanic activity could, theoretically lead to their
being buried deeper, it would be unlikely to damage
them.
Professor Wallace-Hadrill also points out that only
about half of the papyri that have been discovered
have been read. The other half are too blackened for
scholars to study them with the technology that is
currently available. “It is very difficult to argue
that we need to look for new papyri when we have not
read the ones we already have,” he says.
But the main reason why the excavations were halted in
1998 was a change in priorities at Herculaneum. Pietro
Giovanni Guzzo, who had taken over as Soprintendente
of Pompeii and Herculaneum, the official responsible
for managing the site, three years earlier, decided
that conservation of what has been unearthed must be
the number one priority.
Professor Wallace-Hadrill agrees: “The existing
excavations at Herculaneum are in a critical
condition. The site is unique in that it has upper
floors to the buildings. But these upper floors are
collapsing. The archaeological, historical, and
decorative evidence is crumbling before our eyes.
There is also an appalling infestation of pigeons.
Under Italian law, the pigeons cannot be killed so
they populate the ancient houses with predictable
consequences. You cannot justify spending money on new
excavations until you have preserved what you have
already got.” A major conservation project focussing
on the old town, has now been launched with the
support of the Packard Humanities Institute.
A questionable dig
Critics of the 1990s excavation have also asked about
the “trench” which was used to excavate the atrium of
the Villa of the Papyri. This enormous gash cut
through the site was nearly 500 metres long, 50 metres
wide and 40 metres deep. Critics say this technique is
crude and that it resembles a mining project more than
an archaeological dig. They further point out that
since it included excavation below the water table it
has caused the present flooding problem. De Simone
defends his approach, blaming the present
Soprintendente for halting work and then failing to
maintain the pumping system. Others say that the
pumping system did not work from the start because the
wrong pumps were installed.
Professor Guzzo is undertaking a feasibility study on
the resumption of excavations, and says this report is
expected to take two years to complete. Excavation
would be a massive project and he says it is “crucial
that we draw up a clear conservation and maintenance
programme before we consider resuming work. For
instance, there is water underground and we need to
ensure that this will not damage the site if
excavation is resumed.”
The present generation of scholars may lose the
opportunity to study a cache of important texts from
the classical world (if these exist), but arguably the
papyri will be safer beneath a thick layer of volcanic
debris than above ground.
Professor Fowler and his colleagues disagree,
believing that any papyri are endangered by the partly
completed excavation. “Posterity will not judge us
kindly,” he warns. Professor Fowler is now hoping to
raise additional money specifically for the excavation
of the Villa of the Papyri.
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] SALVE PRIMIA HELVETIA IUSTITIA! |
| From: |
"varus_galili" <quinctilius.varus@web.de> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 09:34:46 -0000 |
|
E DOMO LEGATI GERMANIAE SUPERIORIS
IM NAMEN DER REGIERUNG UND DER BEVÖLKERUNG DER REGIONIS GERMANIAE
SUPERIORIS HEISSE ICH, QUINTUS QUINCTILIUS VARUS GALILI, LEGATUS
GERMANIAE SUPERIORIS, FOLGENDE NEUBÜRGERIN IN
UNSEREM KREISE
WILLKOMMEN:
PRIMIA HELVETIA IUSTITIA / BRENODURUM / 26.04.2002
WIR WÜNSCHEN UNSERER NEUBÜRGERIN EINE INTERESSANTE UND LEHRREICHE
ZUKUNFT IN UNSERER GEMEINSCHAFT UND
HOFFEN, DASS SIE SICH
WOHLFÜHLEN WIRD UND SICH AM GESELLSCHAFTLICHEN LEBEN IN NOVAROMA AKTIV
BETEILIGT.
BEI FRAGEN UND ANLIEGEN IST DIE NEUBÜRGERIN EINGELADEN, SICH DIREKT
MIT MIR IN VERBINDUNG ZU SETZEN. GERNE WERDE ICH BEHILFLICH SEIN.
VALETE BENE!
QUINTUS QUINCTILIUS VARUS GALILI
LEGATUS GERMANIAE SUPERIORIS
DUUMVIR JUNIOR COLONIA AUGUSTA RAURICA
CORNICULARIUS LEG XI CPF COH X CAND
TRANSLATET BY GOOGLE:
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GERMANIAE SUPERIORIS AM CALLED I, QUINTUS QUINCTILIUS VARUS GALILI,
LEGATUS GERMANIAE SUPERIORIS, THE FOLLOWING NEW CITIZEN IN OUR CIRCLES
WELCOME: PRIMIA HELVETIA IUSTITIA/BRENODURUM/26,04,2002 WE DESIRES OF
OUR NEW CITIZEN AN INTERESTING AND INSTRUCTIVE FUTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY
AND HOPING THAT IT WELL-BEING FEELING AND TAKEN PART IN THE SOCIAL
LIFE. WITH QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS THE NEW CITIZEN IS INVITED, ITSELF
DIRECT WITH ME INTO CONNECTION TO SETTING. GLADLY I WILL BE HELPFUL.
VALETE BENE! QUINTUS QUINCTILIUS VARUS GALILI LEGATUS GERMANIAE
SUPERIORIS DUUMVIR JUNIOR COLONIA AUGUSTA RAURICA CORNICULARIUS PUT XI
CPF COH X CAND
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Roman jewelry |
| From: |
"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 13:13:30 -0000 |
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AVE ANTONIA CORNELIA OCTAVIANA
You are right: I am really sorry.
The correct link is
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nr_italia
Sorry again!
VALE OPTIME
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] FW: ATTN (Religio Romana): pridie Idus Maias (May 14) |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <antonio.grilo@inov.pt> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 15:10:01 +0100 |
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ANTONIVS GRYLLVS GRAECVS PONTIFEX OMNIBVS CIVIBVS SALVTEM
This is a dies comitiales (C), when committees of citizens can vote on
political or criminal matters.
Today is the sacrifice of the Argei, which is the companion rite to the
Procession of the Argei in Martius. This ceremony is described by Ovid
[Ovid, Fasti, V.621-662]. The 27 Argei (human-shaped bundles of rushes) are
carried counter-clockwise throughout the city in a procession that includes
the Flamen and Flaminica Dialis, the Vestal Virgins, and the Praetor. In a
ritual - probably done as a substitute for human sacrifice -, the Vestal
Virgins throw the Argei into the Tiber from the Bridge of Sublicius.
This is also the birthday of the temple of Mars Invictus. The temple of Mars
Invictus was founded in the
Circus Flaminius by D. Iuninus Brutus Callaicus, consul in 163 BC. Designed
by a Greek architect and decorated with verses of the poet Accius , it
contained in the colossal statue of Mars by Scopas. This is probably the
cult in the Venusine calendar reference. An entry, '[...] Invicto',in the
Fasti Antiates maiores for 15 May does not necessarily refer to Mars, and
therefore the Venusine calendar need not be assumed wrongly to have
anticipated the ceremony by one day.
Di vos bene ament
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Legio XIV |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 09:58:59 -0400 (EDT) |
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ProPraetor Petrus Domitianus;
XIV Legio:-------
In 53 B.C. Julius Caesar formed a Legion XIV after an earlier legion
with this number had been destroyed, but Caesar's Legion was disbanded
in 46--45 B.C. Alternatively, the Legion XIV Gemina may have been
formed by Octavian in 41--40 B.C., since it served wih him until the
battle of Actium in 31 B.C. It served in the Balkans from 30 B.C. to 9
A.D.and on the Rhine frontier from 9 A.D. to 43 A.D. From 43 to 66 it
served in Britain. It was in transit in 67-68 and in Italy in 68, but
returned to Britain in the same year where it remained until 70. From
70 it served on the Rhine frontier. The title "Gemina" probably refers
to the amalgamation of legions, perhaps after the Battle of Actium in 31
B.C. It also had the title Martia Victrix, apparently after victory
over Boudiccan rebels in Britain in 60-61. It had capricorn as an
emblem, perhaps indicating formation or reconstitution under Augustus.
Legion XIV disposition in Britain is determied as follows:
--At Lactodorum (Towcester) from 45-48;
--At Mandvessedvm (Mancetter) from 48-56;
--At Viroconivm (Wroxeter) from 56-65;
--At Letocetvm (Wall) from 60-65??
Legion XIV also took part with II Augusta, IX Hispana, and the XX in the
invasion force to Britain which probably landed at Dubris (Dover)* under
Claudius (41-54).
*See my treatise on the Roman Road from Dubris to Londinium.
References:
"Handbook To Life In Ancient Rome," Adkins and Adkins, Oxford Uiversity
Press, New York and Oxford, 1994;
"The Roman Imperial Army," Graham Webster, University of Oklahoma Press,
Norton, OK, 1979.
(Note:-----The above two references are secondary works only, however, I
am sure that there are many here in NR who can provide primary
documentation, as needed, for what I have said.)
Anyone having any further infomation regarding the history of Legion XIV
is invited to make that information available to ProPraetor Domitianus,
for use in raising a Legion XIV in Venedia. Senator Quintillianus has
requested that any assistance along this line be rendered, and I am most
pleased to be able to contribute these few words.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] KDE translation to Latin - V |
| From: |
Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br> |
| Date: |
14 May 2002 11:28:25 -0300 |
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Salve,
reporting the progress of the KDE translation:
kdelibs is over 50% done (1425 strings out of 2808)
desktop is 31% done due to the great help from Gaius Noviodunus Ferriculus
We are no 2 registered developpers at sourceforge me and G. Noviodunus
more are needed please take a look at
http://kde-i18n-la.sourceforge.net
Even if you don't help translating simply visiting this page from time to
time helps because sourceforge is counting the accesses in order to determine
the value of the various projects.
If you want to help without needing to learn how to use cvs/ssh just
download poedit
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27043
for your specific OS, get a (small) file from our project translate
it under poedit and send it to me, in order for me to upload it.
This is not a difficult task we are speaking of some lines of text with
just a few words in each.
Even a single translated line/word is already very helpfull: send the file back
for every work session on it even with just one modified line, in order to be sure
that the version in the CVS repository is always the latest.
Specific help needed:
Latin translations for the non-alphanumerical keys on a keyboard
i.e. : `~!@#$%^&*()-_=+\|{}[]:;'"<>,.?/
Latin translation of country names/languages
Thai/Thailand
Turkish/Turkey
Afrikaans
Azerbaijani/Azerbaijan
Belarusian/Belarussia
etc. etc.
Vale,
Manius Villius Limitanus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Discussions of Places and Architecture |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 10:50:50 -0400 (EDT) |
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Citizens of Nova Roma;
I wish to thank all those citizens who have been so kind as to tell me
how much they have enjoyed my recent pstings on places and Architecture.
These efforts are an outgrowth of a desire to insure that the Main List
does not remain a desert of discord, and political in-fighting as it
sometimes has been in the past.
I am pleased to see that the Main List has indeed become a nicer place
to be, a more informative place to be, and a more Roman place to be. My
thanks to all who have contributed towards that end.
Lastly, I cannot take a great deal of credit for those treatises written
about places and peoples around the Mediterranean and Red Seas, as these
are the result of a great deal of effort by Dominus Praefectus Mannius
C. Serapio, who used his limited free time as a military soldier in his
country's army to visit, research, and write these notes which he then
delivered to me for sharing on the Main List with you. So the large
part of your appreciation is really due to Master Serapio. I shall
continue to share with you his excellent work in the coming weeks, and I
must say that I am much in his debt for the work he has done in the
field for Sodalitas Egressus, and for the Citizens of Nova Roma who are
enjoying his observations and comments.
Respectfully, and With My Appreciation;
Marcus Minucius Audens;
Senator et ProConsul
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] CPT Item III: Census |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 07:59:31 -0700 |
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Ave,
This has been discussed last month, actually. :) But the answer is quite simple. We have 1200+ citizens of Nova Roma and most of them are not around. This Census will serve the two fold purpose of contacting our citizens and confirming their contact information and reacquainting them back into Nova Roma.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Flavius Aurelius
To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] CPT Item III: Census
Why?
Marcus Flavius Aurelius
Durovernium, Australia Orientalis Superior
marcus.flavius@bigpond.com
ICQ: 4895187
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Haase" <haase@konoko.net>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: [novaroma] CPT Item III: Census
Item III:
Pursuant to the Constitution of Nova Roma (II.A. 4 and IV.A.1.b) the
following law is hereby enacted to determine the accurate numbers of
citizens who make up Nova Roma.
I. A Census of all citizens of Nova Roma should be done every 2 years.
This would be the responsibility of the Censors.
II. The Nova Roma Census will last for a period of 8 weeks, and must be
completed by the Ides of September. The start and end of the census period
will be announced by the Censors on the NR website, official lists, and in
the major forums. The official lists are currently located at
novaroma@yahoogroups.com and NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com.
Notification must also be published on the Nova Roma Message board.
III. The Census will consist of the following:
A. Active citizens are those citizens that do not need to be contacted by
the Censors to determine if they are apart of Nova Roma:
1. Those citizens who voted in the main election (in December) shall be
considered "censi."
2. Those citizens who have paid taxes for the current calendar year shall
be considered "censi".
3. Paterfamiliae who have successfully responded to the yearly registration
of the Lex Cornelia de Tabulis Gentium Novaromanarum Agendis shall be
considered "censi".
4. Persons who became citizens during the current calendar year shall be
considered "censi".
IV. Inactive citizens are those citizens who fail to meet at least one of
the conditions in IV A. The following will lay down some of the procedures
to contact inactive citizens. Inactive citizens are those citizens who will
need to be contacted by the National Census. The following methods will be
used to contact inactive citizens:
A. Bulk Email. At least two attempts should be done to contact citizen
via this avenue.
B. Individual email. If a Citizen email bounces back as invalid from the
bulk email, the Censors shall send them an individual email to verify there
was not a problem with an email service filter.
C. Phone calls. If a Citizen is unreachable due to an invalid email
address, the Censors shall attempt to contact them by phone. This may be
done on the Provincial level under the direction of the Censors if possible.
D. Surface mail. "Inactive" Citizens who are unreachable by email or
phone shall receive a mailing from the Censors. This may also be done on the
Provincial level if possible. Surface mail information should be forwarded
to whatever official NR address is specified by the
Censors. Surface mail information must reach the Censors before the Ides
of September.
The Current Official address of all Nova Roman Mail correspondence is:
Nova Roma
P.O. Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090
At the time of the passage of this lex, the above address is the official
address, if the official address changes in the future; the new address
should be utilized.
E. A temporary banner and link will be put on the main NR website for the
duration of the Census, where individual citizens may input their
information to comply with the Census.
V. All communicated information pertaining to the Census shall be noted in
a database on the Nova Roma Website, the address of which will be specified
by the Censores at the beginning of the Registration Period. Citizen
information may be inputted into this database by the Censores, their
appointed assistants, or by the individual citizens.
VI. By the Ides of August, the Censors should post a list to the official
email list of Nova Roma displaying the names of those citizens who have
failed to respond.
VII. If a citizen fails to respond to the contact attempts, that person
will no longer be considered a citizen of Nova Roma. His name will be
stricken from the Album Civium and if he/she is a Pater/Mater, the Censors
will abide by the Constitution, any laws, and any Censorial edict if the
appointment of a paterfamilias is necessary. However, the Censors have the
discretion to waive this clause if both Censors feel there are legitimate
reasons for the citizen to remain incommunicado.
VIII. If a citizen who knows of an extended period of unavailability that
will coincide with the census, he may contact the censors up to 3 months
before the census is to begin to inform them of his active status and his
desire to be counted in the census. Such contact will be considered by the
censors as having fulfilled the citizen's duty to reply during the census
period. Proxies are not permitted during the National Census effort.
IX. A former citizen may appeal to the Senate to have his removal from the
Album Civium reconsidered. Such an appeal must be filed with the consuls
within 90 days of the former citizens removal from the Album Civium. A
2/3rds vote of the Senate is needed to overturn the decision of the censors.
X. A budget is to be provided for the Censors' Office to offset costs for
conducting the census. This budget is to be included only for the years that
a Census takes place. The amount to be set aside would be established by
the Senate of Nova Roma.
XI. The First Census will take place during the Consulship of Marcus
Octavius Germanicus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (2755 AUC).
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Latin Course--Lesson 1--Part 3--Metella (Wife of Caecilius) |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 12:30:38 -0400 (EDT) |
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Metella:----------
Caecilius' wife Metella. like many Roman wives and mothers, had an
important position in her home. She was responsible for the management
of the household, and had to supervise the work of the domestic slaves.
Much skill in organization and a good deal of shrewdnes were necessary
if she was to keep everything running smoothly at home. She would also
carefully prepare for social occasions and help to entertain guests.
Although the lives of married women were mainly centered on thier homes,
they were known to go out and about in the town, to visit friends, to
shop, and to attend publc events. Occasionally they managed thier own
businesses as indicated in a a relief which depicts the shopkeeper as a
woman, although this was not common. A Pompeian woman named Eumachia,
who donated the cost of the meeting hall of the cloth merchants on the
Southeast side of the Forum, successfully took over her father's pottery
business after his death. A statue of her was placed in the Forum as
one who had contributed significantly to the city of Pompeii.
Metella is shown with a distaff and spindle for the spinning of wool.
In the centuries before Metella's lifetime most women would have learned
to spin and weave cloth for the clothes worn by thier famiies. This
skill was highly regarded and was sometimes mentioned on tombstones as
one of a woman's virtes, as these lines from an inscription show:
--She loved her husband in her heart.
--She bore two sons; of these she leaves one on earth, the other she
placed beneath the earth.
--She looked afer the house, she spun wool.
According to the historian Suetonius the Emperor Augustus considered
spinning and weaving activiies worthy of women at the highest level of
society (although this was probably already an old-fashioned notion by
his time,)
"In bringing up his daughter and grandaughters, Augustus even
made them get used to spinning _ _ _Except on specal occasion, the
Devine Augustus always wore ordinary clothes made by his sister, wife,
daughter, or grandaughters."
Metella certainly did not need to make clothing for herself and her
family, as she could purchase it ready-made from merchants in Pompeii.
Nevertheless, she would very likely have learned as a girl the arts of
spinning and weaving, and might well have pursued them as a traditional
pastime, much as people today enjoy knitting or sewing.
Reference:
Cambridge Latin Course-3rd Rev., Phinney--Bell--Romine, Cambridge
University Press, 1988
Respectfully Submitted;
Marcus Minucius Audens
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: What Does This Mean? |
| From: |
"n_cassius_niger" <menippus@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 17:56:31 -0000 |
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Salve,
Timore would be the singular ablative of timor/timoris, which means
fear or dread. A very useful tool is the "Latin Morphological
Analysis" tool at the Perseus Project
<http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/> It allows you to enter an inflected
Latin word and tells you what words it could be derived from.
Si vales, valeo
N. Cassius Niger
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Another Roman Movie |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 11:46:57 -0700 |
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This one dealing with the Roman Invasion of Britian.
http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_582847.html
Vale,
Sulla
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Edictum Aedilicium X about the dismissal of Scriba Aedilis |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 14 May 2002 21:25:49 +0200 |
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Ex Officio Curile Aedile Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Edictum Aedilicium X about the dismissal of Scriba Aedilis
Investigator Honorable Caius Cornelius Puteanus and Scriba Aedilis
Consursus Secunda Honorable Claudia Cornelia Puteana and the
promotion of a new Scriba Aedilis Investigator Primus
I have the privilege of having a very active and hard working Cohors
Aedilis (Caeso Fabius Q.) to assist me. To my great sorrow two very
competent and active members of my Coihors left Nova Roma about two
months ago. I have waited and hoped that they would return, but as of
now I have lost all hope. I have got no explanation to their
disappearance, but I still will say that they did the Cohors and Nova
Roma great services, but also left some empty spaces. Now time has
come to say good bye!
I. I hereby dismiss Scriba Aedilis Investigator Honorable Caius
Cornelius Puteanus and Scriba Aedilis Consursus Secunda Honorable
Claudia Cornelia Puteana from their positions in the Cohors Aedilis
(Caeso Fabius Q.).
II. I also hereby promote Honorable Caius Cornelius Ahenobarbus to
the position of "Scriba Aedilis (Caeso Fabius Q.) Investigator Primus
et Artificium" (First Aedilian Scriba for Inquiry and Artwork).
III. Honorable Caius Cornelius Ahenobarbus is also to become the
ordinary Caput of the Officina Investigatoris (Office of Inquiry) in
his capacity as "Scriba Aedilis (Caeso Fabius Q.) Investigator
Primus". Honorable Caius Cornelius Ahenobarbus is also, in his
capacity as "Scriba Aedilis (Caeso Fabius Q.) Artificium", to
continue to assist in the Officina Ludi as Adiutor Tertius (Third
Assistant) to Caput Officina (Head of Department): Quaestor Illustrus
Franciscus Apulus Caesar.
IV. As he already is an official of Nova Roma Honorable Caius
Cornelius Ahenobarbus already has sworn the public oath and will
_not_ have to do so again.
V. This edictum becomes effective immediately.
Given May the 14th, in the year of the consulship of Marcus Octavius
Germanicus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, 2755 AUC.
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Curule Aedile
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
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