| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: [novaroma_europe] Serapio for Quaestor - Financial issue |
| From: |
Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 18 May 2002 06:57:51 -0700 (PDT) |
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Salve honourable Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
I know Academia Thules, and the wonderful work being
done there.
I keep on telling potential citizens about its
existence and its goals, and as well about the
Sodalitates.
Nevertheless, people still feel that we are more a
political organisation than a cultural one.
This situation seems to be particulary true in France:
there politics are enjoying a very low level of
credibility and french people avoid whatever seems to
be political. This is the reason why I submitted the
idea of a cultural web site. I forgot to mention in
my post the existence of Academia Thules, I am
terribly sorry about this!!
My second problem is language. Southern european
states are rather "lazy" about learning a foreign
language and a relatively low percentage of people do
speak english enough to fully participate in the life
of our Republic..
The roman cultural heritage in southern european
countries is of course very important and NR has to
compete with local organisations that function in
local language.
Very respectfully,
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> wrote:
> Salve Honorable Sextus Apollonius Scipio!
>
> I just want to ask You if You are aware of the fact
> of the work that
> we in Provincia Thule are doing together with
=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Acting Praefectus for France, Sodalitatis Egressus
Terrarum dea gentiumque, Roma
Cui par est nihil et nihil secundum.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] The jdbgmgr.exe virus hoax going around again (offtopic) |
| From: |
"Marcus Flavius Aurelius" <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 09:36:51 +1000 |
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It's still off-topic but......
As a general rule, one should never delete anything from one's PC unless one:
a.. knows what it is; and
b.. can replace it if required
If you cannot meet either of these criteria, do not delete it. Or you may (in extreme cases) be condemning yourself to horrendous expense and inconvenience.
Marcus Flavius Aurelius
Durovernium, Australia Orientalis Superior
marcus.flavius@bigpond.com
ICQ: 4895187
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur
----- Original Message -----
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:24 PM
Subject: [novaroma] The jdbgmgr.exe virus hoax going around again (offtopic)
Salve,
I know this is way off Roman topics, but a virus hoax about the
jdbgmgr.exe file that resides in windows/system is going around.
If you get this hoaxmail do not delete this file, it's your
Microsoft® Debugger Registrar for Java. For more info
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q322993&
Pax,
Quintus Cassius Calvus
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: A Note on Quaestors |
| From: |
"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 16:13:44 -0000 |
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AVE TITE OCTAVI PII
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Disclaimer: I will use the male pronoun throughout this text when
>referring to a supposed person of indeterminate gender because I'm a
>sexist, misogynist scumbag who hate women and wish to insult them.
>
>Disclaimer to disclaimer: Yes, I'm kidding. Just pointing out that
our
>man in Europe might as well be a woman.
First disclaimer to second disclaimer: You are right. Sorry: this was
caused by the italian use of the term "uomo"=man, human being. So
excuse me if I will repeat "man": it includes both women and men!
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>You're saying we need to find one man (or maybe a few) willing to
front
>money for all of Europe? How many european citisens do we have at the
>moment, two hundred? Three? That's $3'000...up front, in advance,
>without any guarantees of when it will be refunded.
Unfortunately, no. I didn't think so.
When two or three hundred european citizens will pay taxes, the
collection will take place on a provincial basis.
However, as Gaius Popillius Laenas said in last april Tax report, in
the whole Nova Roma 179 citizens paid taxes, with $2,076 of income.
So, it would be wonderful, but it is difficult that next year Nova
Roma receives $3,000 just from Europe.
Also consider that not all those european citizens would choose to
pay through this "front man", exactly as this year not all citizens
paid sending money orders to Quaestor Laenas.
I would ask to Quaestor Gaius Popillius Laenas, how much did he
received with checks and money orders, and in particular, how much
did he receive with checks and money orders from EUROPEAN CITIZENS.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Would this have to be done before the regular taxation deadline? If
not,
>when would the "front man" have to submit his money? At the very
>beginning of the same period?
Perhaps we could decide a day. In this day the "front man" sends
money via PayPal to Nova Roma. The day before would coincide with the
deathline for citizens to send to the "front man" their e-mail in
wich they say they will pay tax. Nova Roma receives money and
notifies it to the citizens. There would be a deathline for them to
pay the sum to the "front man". If within the deathline some of them
don't pay, Nova Roma wouldreimburse the "front man".
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Will we pay him interest?
In my humble opinion, no. It would be a service that a citizen of
Nova Roma would be honoured of offering for his Res Publica.
Obviously this is what it would be for me.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
> And, I believe, PayPal will
>take a percentage of the money transferred as opposed to a steady
>fee...so if we guess at 5%, with $3000 running back and forth twice,
>this would cost either Nova Roma or the "front man" $150. Not a lot,
PayPal takes a percentage on received money. This percentage is
between 0.7% and 2.9%. You should also add 1% for money received from
outside US. So Nova Roma should pay something between 1.7% and 3.9%
of the incomes through PayPal, and it is exactly what happened this
year.
You can find these informations at:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p(gen/fees-outside
So the "front man" has nothing to add. He would just pay a percentage
on any reimboursement, but it wouldn't be so onerous.
In addition, I remind you that it is quite impossible that next year
$3000 are paid by Europe, and in particular by those in Europe who
would use this system to pay taxes.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Yes, lower than for bonding...but the problem is still, how is this
guy
>supposed to get the money in the first place? Sent in regular
>snail-mails to his home?
Obviously no. For this point we would need collaboration from all
Provinciae, in order to find in every Provincia the cheaper and safer
way to send money to the "front man": these could be for instance
money orders, banks transfers, postal orders. It depends on the
countries.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
> The best option would be through banks, but international
>transfers are too expensive.
s I said before, we should discuss this point with citizens living in
different country.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
> Checks aren't useable the same way in
>Europe as in the US. Mails...
Why US? We are speaking about how a EUROPEAN citizens could send
money to another EUROPEAN citizen! Then the "front man" would use
PayPal. Anyway, checks by mail aren't suitable, as I said before.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
> A post box, in
>Sweden where I live, would cost $150 per year. Then we have the part
>with no common currency in Europe...though the Euro is spreading, it
>isn't usable everywhere. Will the citisens, the "front man" or Nova
Roma
>accept these fees? (And they can be quite prohibitive)
In Italy a post box costs less, exactly as a money order to US: you
see that we should discuss this matter with other people, considering
opportunities in different countries.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Correct, given the number of Provincia versus the number of taxpayers
>today. However, this type of system would grow progressively more
useful
>as our recruitment of new citisens continues. At the same rate, or
>maybe even more, the amount of work and money our "front man" has to
>invest would grow. For instance, having the propraetors collect the
>money, perhaps through their regional legates, would produce a
natural
>hierachial system which should minimise administrative efforts and
fees.
I agree with you. As Nova Roma grows the tax collection will be made
on a provincial basis. However, for now it would involve prohibitive
costs for several Provinciae.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Sure...but if they have PayPal anyhow, why not transmit directly to
NR?
>Always try to cut out the middleman, if possible.
You are right.
T.Oct.Pius wrote:
>Here is how I visualise things:
>1. Citisens.
>1.1. Citisens who have access to PayPal use it.
>1.2. Citisens who don't:
>1.2.1. Send their taxes in the LOCAL CURRENCY.
>1.2.2. Send their taxes to the closest official empowered by the
>Propraetor to collect Taxes.
>2. Propraetorial assistants.
>2.1. Receive money.
>2.3. Those who have access to PayPal use it.
>2.4. Those who don't:
>2.4.1. Exchange received currency to the currency desired by the
>Propraetor.
>2.4.2. Send this bulk sum to the Propraetor.
>3. Propraetors.
>3.1. Announce how much the tax will be in any currencies used in the
>provincia.
>3.2. Receive money.
>3.3. Those who have access to PayPal use it.
>3.4. Those who don't have three options:
>3.4.1. Get access.
>3.4.2. Appoint an assistant with access.
>3.4.3. Contact the consular quaestors and ask for help.
>Any uses of PayPal will, naturally, be sent directly to NR, with a
list
>of all citisens who are covered by those taxes.
This proposal sounds good, but in a more populated Nova Roma, doesn't
it?
VALE OPTIME
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
***Candidate for Quaestor***
My Page: http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Italiae
Dominus Praefectus - Sodalitas Egressus
-----------------------------------------------
Provincia Italia: http://italia.novaroma.org
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Upcoming event in California Inferior |
| From: |
"Gaius Cornelius Ahenobarbus" <ahenobarbus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 20 May 2002 21:19:26 -0700 |
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Gaius Cornelius Ahenobarbus Omnibus S.P.D.
For those of you available in the California Inferior Province (SoCal),
there will be an opportunity to meet and eat with NovaRomans on Saturday,
May 25th, at 2pm at:
Bella Italia Restaurant
7232 Rosemead Blvd, San Gabriel
(626)287-5674
We'll be chatting about Nova Roma, and Roma Antiqua. I'm sure there's some
flexiblity in the agenda for other divers topics as well. Our honored Consul
and my Paterfamilia the very illustrious Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix will
be in attendance. Sorry for the late date of this message, I hope all can
make it. I look forward to meeting the growing Nova Roman community of
California Inferior!
Vale!
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ATTN [Religio Romana]: ante diem XII Kalendas Iunias (May 21) |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <antonio.grilo@inov.pt> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 17:27:41 +0100 |
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ANTONIVS GRYLLVS GRAECVS PONTIFEX OMNIBVS CIVIBVS SALVTEM
This is a dies nefastus publicus (NP), a day for special religious
observance on which no legal action can take place.
Today is the Agonalia of mensis Maius, presumably dedicated to Vediovis. The
Rex Sacrorum sacrifices a ram at the Regia.
Di vos bene ament
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: A Note on Quaestors |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 17:40:59 -0000 |
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---
Salvete Gaius Popillius et alii:
In novaroma@y..., "g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@b...> wrote:
> >>I thank you humbly for your kind and eloquent praise. I dare
speak
> for my colleague when I say that we have both done our utmost to
> enable as many of our citisens to pay their taxes as possible.<<
>
> Salvete Tite Octavi et Pompeia Cornelia et Quirites,
>
> Indeed you do speak for me also, my esteemed colleague and friend.
> As you do when you offer thanks to our kind Praetrix (I don't know
if
> that's proper latin, but it sounds right to me.)
Pompeia: Well, since I have the rather unhistorical situation of
being a female Praetor, Praetrix sounds quite accurate to me (Some in
the past would roll over in their tombs, you know! :)
>
> I hope that some better means of remitting funds from outside the
US
> can be developed. The idea of collection (by the Governor, for
> example) and remittance in lump sum is (and has been) a good one.
> However, the concern of misappropriation by anyone having acess to
> funds, and the prohibitive cost on bonding, have been the obstacles
> that we have not been able to overcome.
Pompeia: Actually, a few governors did volunteer to serve as a
respository for provincial tax collection. I am not sure, upon
retrospect, if we were actually on strong legal ground to do this, as
we were really not appointed actual publicani, or designates to do
such. I guess we were riding on the toga (stola?) tails of our
imperium, and trying to generate as much funding as we could, by
knocking down as many barriers as we could. Speaking for myself, I
do not mind assisting with the collection of tax monies within my
provincia.
To further express my position to the populace, I also do not think
that having more Quaestors on board to assist with this undertaking
would be a bad idea. The problem this year, in part, was the cost of
bonding the Quaestors handling funds (biiiig bucks), and the time.
But as we get larger and richer, these costs will in all probability,
justify themselves. My point to the whole matter of the role of this
years' Consular Quaestors, was, that they essentially 'make bricks
with little straw", and did it so well. The excellent decision making
ability of the Honoured Consuls was a large factor, too, and with
many other things.
>
> Again thanks to Pompeia Cornelia. You are one of the people who
are
> key to holding NR together. (And...you must be extraordinary to be
> so close to both Lucius Cornelius and Marcus Minucius!)
Pompeia: My thanks to you, Gai Popilli, but no, I am really not. No.
I believe that we are 'all' the glue that holds Nova Roma together.
What you do, what I do, what the Consuls do,the magistrates, the
Governors, the citizens who come out to Provincia gatherings, the
citizens who keep in touch, who pay taxes, the Senate, the Collegium,
the Sodalitates. In the spirit of Roman republicanism, a
republicanism which will work and not decay with the weathering of
transient political squabble or complacency, we are all a viable part
of this, our community and macronation.
I am very pleased to have had the opportunity to work closely with
Proconsul Marcus Minucius Audens (he has many other
titles, 'something' like Apollo :) ). I am also pleased and proud of
my paterfamilias, the Consul of Nova Roma, Lucius Cornelius Sulla.
Good men, both very dear to my heart, and two men who have pioneered
many great things in Nova Roma. I have learned alot from these two.
Sorry, Pompeia gets very sentimental after a provincia gathering,
hence the rambling,but I also wanted to say some things in expansion
of your kind post, and items on Quaestorship.
Valete,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetrix
>
>
> Just kidding guys.......sort of ;-O
>
> Valete,
> Gaiud Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Serapio's Questions |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 14:04:46 -0400 (EDT) |
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Citizens of Nova Roma;
I am pleased, of course, to see a person who has contributed heavily to
the furtherence of Nova Roma with a consistant source of material to
Sodalitas Egressus, runnig for the office of Quaestor. I have mentoned
in passing my support of him for that very reason, and as many senior
magistrates have indicated in the past,"anyone interested in NR to the
extent of working hard for her has thier support" or words to that
effect.
However, I find it interesting that here is a person who has obviously
been thinking along the lines of a Quaestor's responsibilities, and
further who takes the time from his opportuity to tell others of his
qualifications to inquire as to what the population has to say about the
work of the Quaestors as a whole.
The present Quaestors, in my humble view, particularly those appointed
to the Consuls have aquitted themselves very well, and deserve the
unqualified thanks of the NR membership. They have worked hard to find
ways to implement programs, and have at the criticism of ohers hewed to
the line of legality without losing the courtesy due the population from
an elected Magistrate. My admiration to both of these gentleman who are
my colleagues, is now offered and to the others on the Quaestor List as
well.
My point though. is that here is a young man who has asked some very
interesting questions, not to belittle those in office as we have seen
so often in the past, but rather for the purpose of gaining information,
asking the population thier ideas on several points, and gaining
valuable insight into the task for which he has offered his time and
effort to the republic; from those who have served in this important
position.
I remember saying to a citizen of Nova Roma some time ago who had
identified herself as a "mere citizen" just how important I thought that
status was. Here, now is another person who apparently believes the
same thing, and who has asked the Citizens of Nova Roma for their views
on the position of Quaestor, some of the current challenges that face
the financial aspects of the government of NR, and what and how our
present Quaestors have met these challenages, and if there are other
ideas out there to be looked at. Again, not to belitte, or crticize,
but to gain information that will be valuable in case the citizen's of
NR, final decision favor him. I find that, personally, very compelling
His opponet in this comng election has also entered into this
discussion, with comments and ideas of his own. Personnally I think
this is very indicative of the kind of new Magistrate that we want to
see in NR. A candidate who does not mind looking at the challenges of
the office for which he or she stands, asking the population who wll
decide on the person to be a Magistrate for thier views, ideas, comments
and perhaps even complaints (It has been said by some that such has
been seen on this list from time to time ----Grin!!!!!!!), and being so
interested in so doing that he has drawn his opponent into the
discussion. Frankly, I am very impressed over and above his activity in
the Egressus which is no less than monumental.
Now I admire both candidates, and I am impressed with both candidates,
and with the remarks of those who have supported them. In my view, if I
could, with honor, give up my Quaestorship so that both candidates could
be selected, I would do so, with the exception that such would violate
my Oath, in my view, and such is very important to me. It is important
since it is indicative of the honor done me by those who are in ultimate
charge of Nova Roma---the "mere citizens!!!!!!!!!"
So, in closing my friends, I will have a difficult time in making my
decision in the coming election. However, I rather like the idea of
being asked for my input, my ideas, and my comments, by a young man
eager to learn. I know this is his purpose, in this, because of his
excellent showing prevously in Egressus. So, I have responded to his
request privately, of course, and have provided the information that he
has asked me for, and I urge all the citizens of Nova Roma to consider
doing the same. My military background has taught me also that the first
man up with a good idea, should be put in charge, and those who follow
should work with him to develop that idea. This is not a submarine, of
course, but the logic seems to still be applicable.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens;
Praetorium Quaestor, Senator et ProConsul
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Acknowledgement of New Priests In Nova Roma Religio Romana |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 14:36:34 -0400 (EDT) |
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My Congatulations and Best Wishes;
I know little about this religious belief, exceptthat the College of
Pontiffs is in the main very careful regarding the selection of those
who will be responsible for furthering the beliefs in which we as Nova
Romans are involved.
I support the Religio Romano as a Magistrate, and as a believer that
religion is the choice of the individual. Therefore I congratulate each
of you in attaining your goal, and wish for you all the best in
administering to your duties as determined by your granted positions.
These appointments can only strengthen Nova Roma, by bringing to the
republic those who are willing to work in concert through religious
beliefs, political activity, and the study of culture, archaeology and
the writings and construction of Roman edifaces in papyrus and in stone,
to be remembered and honored over the millenia.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: A Note on Quaestors |
| From: |
"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 19:04:44 -0000 |
|
>>I would ask to Quaestor Gaius Popillius Laenas, how much did he
received with checks and money orders, and in particular, how much
did he receive with checks and money orders from EUROPEAN CITIZENS.<<
Salve Mani Constantine,
Only 6 non-US cives paid with cash or money orders. None paid with
checks (fortunate since a check drawn on a non-US bank can not be
deposited in the US without procedures and associated fees which
would be more than the taxes.)
For the record, I do not mean to sound as if I am not open to new
ideas or that I believe the current "administration" has thought of
everything...far from it. Perhaps it's just a little frustration
showing through because of all the contraversy that surrounded the
entire tax issue. Certainly improved collection from Europe and
other non-US provinciae would be welcome. And, it seems to me the
non-US cives are in the best position to determine better
alternatives since they are aware of the problems.
The idea of central collection and remittance has always seemed the
best solution. The issue of the "collector" misappropriating funds
has always been the sticking point. In my opinion, Pompeia Cornelia
(and some others) did not exceed the law when they agreed to serve as
collectors for the taxes of their provinciae, because it was not
mandated that their cives pay through them. If I'm in Canada and I
give my money to Pompeia, it means I trust her and that's my
decision. If I'm a "front man" in Europe, it's because I agree to
take some risk and trust my fellow cives.
If I were cynical, I would say the whole issue of bonding and
misappropriation was raised by those who simply object to taxation.
However, we have had one instance of theft in the past, so who can
argue with those who have concerns?
At any rate Mani Constantine, I wish you luck. If elected, I hope
you do come up with some better ideas.
Salve,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Thank You! |
| From: |
"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 19:07:36 -0000 |
|
Marce Minuci for your kind words.
Salve,
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] New Praefectus |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 15:57:05 -0400 (EDT) |
|
Members of the Sodalitas Egressus;
I am pleased to announce the appointment of the Sodalitas Egressus
Praefectus for the Provincia of Thule, Caseo Fabius Quintilianus.
During my visit to Norway recently, I had the good fortune to meet with
Senator Quintilianus, in Oslo, and we passed some very interesting
discussions. I suggested that perhaps he might be interested in the
Egressus, and he said he was, as a member, and as someone who would like
to further in some way the ideas and commitments of ths Sodalitas. I
immediately offered him the position of Praefectus and he accepted.
His existing staff for the Academia will be admitted to Egressus as he
and / or they shall determine thier wish to do so. His responsibilities
will encompass for the Thule Provincia any Legions which will be
involved in that area, as well as any museums, classical organizations,
clubs, and universities having a Classical Studies Department. Any
organizational meetings or gatherings in the Provincia Thule will also
come under his cognizance.
The other Praefecti in Egressus are directed to work in close
association with Praefectus Quintilianus in relation to material
suitable, in his determination, for use in the Academia Thule.
Praefectus Quintillianus, due to his deep involvement in Nova Roma in
other areas, and as the Praetor of Thule is now appointed as a full
Praefectus. He will come under the direction of myself and Dominus
Praefectus Serapio. I would strongly recommend to Praefectus
Quintilianus that suggestions from Beneficarius Strabo, and Primus Pilus
Merrullus should be worthy of his attention.
Praefectus Retarius, please add the name of Praefectus Quintillianus to
the Egressus Website. Any further questions may be directed to myself or
to the Beneficarius Strabo. Primus Pilus Merrullus is currently working
on his house and is not in every day contact at the present time.
Welcome to the Egressus Senior Staff, Praefectus Quintillianus. I look
forward to your input to this Sodalitas
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens;
Praefectus Fabrum -- Sodalitas Egressus -- Nova Roma
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: New Praefectus |
| From: |
"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 21:34:34 -0000 |
|
MANIVS CONSTANTINVS SERAPIO OMNIBVS S.P.D.
My congratulations and welcome to Praefectus Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus, a man I have an high opinion of!
I am sure that his collaboration will make the Sodalitas Egressus in
particular and Nova Roma in general reacher, as he already does
through his strong dedication to our Res Publica.
Welcome!
DIXIT
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Praefectus |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 23:21:23 +0200 |
|
Salve Illustrus Amice, Marcus Minucius Audens and Members of
Sodalitas Egressus!
>Members of the Sodalitas Egressus;
>
>I am pleased to announce the appointment of the Sodalitas Egressus
>Praefectus for the Provincia of Thule, Caseo Fabius Quintilianus.
>
>During my visit to Norway recently, I had the good fortune to meet with
>Senator Quintilianus, in Oslo, and we passed some very interesting
>discussions. I suggested that perhaps he might be interested in the
>Egressus, and he said he was, as a member, and as someone who would like
>to further in some way the ideas and commitments of ths Sodalitas. I
>immediately offered him the position of Praefectus and he accepted.
Yes, I accepted this position with a positive and open attitude. Of
course I have many tasks to tend to, but I will try to look in to my
new Egressus "Provincia" this summer, when other tasks are less heavy.
>His existing staff for the Academia will be admitted to Egressus as he
>and / or they shall determine thier wish to do so. His responsibilities
>will encompass for the Thule Provincia any Legions which will be
>involved in that area, as well as any museums, classical organizations,
>clubs, and universities having a Classical Studies Department. Any
>organizational meetings or gatherings in the Provincia Thule will also
>come under his cognizance.
Of course many of these tasks will be integrated with my tasks as
Propraetor Thules.
>The other Praefecti in Egressus are directed to work in close
>association with Praefectus Quintilianus in relation to material
>suitable, in his determination, for use in the Academia Thule.
>
>Praefectus Quintillianus, due to his deep involvement in Nova Roma in
>other areas, and as the Praetor of Thule is now appointed as a full
>Praefectus. He will come under the direction of myself and Dominus
>Praefectus Serapio. I would strongly recommend to Praefectus
>Quintilianus that suggestions from Beneficarius Strabo, and Primus Pilus
>Merrullus should be worthy of his attention.
>
>Praefectus Retarius, please add the name of Praefectus Quintillianus to
>the Egressus Website. Any further questions may be directed to myself or
>to the Beneficarius Strabo. Primus Pilus Merrullus is currently working
>on his house and is not in every day contact at the present time.
I will cooperate with the Senior staff of the Sodalitas Egressus to
the full extent of my abilities.
>Welcome to the Egressus Senior Staff, Praefectus Quintillianus. I look
>forward to your input to this Sodalitas
Once again, thank You for your warm welcome!
>Respectfully;
>
>Marcus Minucius Audens;
>
>Praefectus Fabrum -- Sodalitas Egressus -- Nova Roma
>
>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
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The homepage of Senior Curule Aedile
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
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The homepage of the Nova Roma Provincia Thule:
http://thule.novaroma.org/
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
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Caeso, he who also is known as Christer Edling.
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PRIVATE PHONE: +90 - 10 09 10
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Culture in Nova Roma, answer to Honorable Sextus Apollonius Scipio |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 23:27:55 +0200 |
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Salve Honorable Sextus Apollonius Scipio, my Colleague!
>Salve honourable Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
>
>I know Academia Thules, and the wonderful work being
>done there.
>I keep on telling potential citizens about its
>existence and its goals, and as well about the
>Sodalitates.
I am very pleased that You already know about the Academia. I am very
sure that the Academia will become even more important to Nova Roma
and our reputation among non-citizens in the future.
>Nevertheless, people still feel that we are more a
>political organisation than a cultural one.
>This situation seems to be particulary true in France:
>there politics are enjoying a very low level of
>credibility and french people avoid whatever seems to
>be political. This is the reason why I submitted the
>idea of a cultural web site. I forgot to mention in
>my post the existence of Academia Thules, I am
>terribly sorry about this!!
I understand your point and I think tat your idea is an excellent
one. If your think that it would be good to use the Academia as a
focusing point I suggest that You contact the Procurator Academia
Thules Honorable Caius Curius Saturninus (c.curius@welho.com).
Otherwise Sodalitas Musarum would maybe be of interest, please
contact Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum Illustrus Tiberius Apollonius
Cicatrix (consulromanus@yahoo.com). Also Sodalitas Egressus may be of
some help, here You are of course already involved and know the
leader Illustrus Marcus Minucius Audens. Why not try to start a joint
Cultural project between the Musarum, Egressus and the Academia.
>My second problem is language. Southern european
>states are rather "lazy" about learning a foreign
>language and a relatively low percentage of people do
>speak english enough to fully participate in the life
>of our Republic..
Yes, I understand!
>The roman cultural heritage in southern european
>countries is of course very important and NR has to
>compete with local organisations that function in
>local language.
In the future maybe we may get the cooperation of these
organizations? Further along the time-line I see some kind of merge
between Nova Roma and many such organizations, based on cooperation
and mutual respect.
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules
The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
************************************************
The homepage of Senior Curule Aedile
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
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The homepage of the Nova Roma Provincia Thule:
http://thule.novaroma.org/
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
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Caeso, he who also is known as Christer Edling.
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PRIVATE PHONE: +90 - 10 09 10
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: A Note on Quaestors |
| From: |
"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Tue, 21 May 2002 22:24:15 -0000 |
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AVE GAI POPILLI LAENAS
I agree with all you wrote.
I just have a little doubt about your last sentence:
"If elected, I hope you do come up with some better ideas."
Better than that I recently proposed? or meaning that, if elected,
you would wish me to do a good job? I mean: was it sarcastic...? ;)
Sorry for misunderstanding!
Anyway, I don't pretend to have found the solution: I just proposed a
possible one, thinking that more than two or three people should deal
with. I any aspect of Nova Roma you will learn that I am a strong
supporter of collaboration, as Propraetor Franciscus Apulus Caesar
and Tribunus Plaebis Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix well know! So also
in this case, as I already said in my last message, I believe it
would be a good thing to extend this discussion and to work on this
issue with people in different Provinciae. There is about one year of
time: in my opinion it is possible to improve the tax collection and
not only, but also to find new ways of income for Nova Roma.
VALE BENE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
***Candidate for Quaestor***
My Page: http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Italiae
Dominus Praefectus - Sodalitas Egressus
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Provincia Italia Website: http://italia.novaroma.org
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