Subject:	[novaroma] Congratulations
From:	"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es>
Date:	Tue, 21 May 2002 22:30:14 -0500

Salvete cives,

I want to congratulate honorabilis Consul Octavius "pro sua celera responsione" to my inquiry about the allocation of citizens among centuries. This is an important issue to ensuere a correct representativeness of all citizens and for guarantee that the result of elections represent the balanced will of the Roman People. It is my duty as Tribunus Plebis to appeal other magistrates to make efforts in this directions in order to guarantee the rights of Populus Romanus.

Prior to modifications introduced by Consul Octavius the allocation was less representative to that we have now, we must thank Consul Octavius because its efforts in the direction to guarantee rules of "fair play". I wisht to reiterate my words of thanks to such an a good effort.


Cl. Salix Davinus
======================
Tribunus Plebis Novae Romae


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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: [Egressus] New Praefectus
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 00:13:47 -0700 (PDT)

--- jmath669642reng@webtv.net wrote:
> Members of the Sodalitas Egressus;
>
> I am pleased to announce the appointment of the
> Sodalitas Egressus
> Praefectus for the Provincia of Thule, Caseo Fabius
> Quintilianus.
>

Salvete Omnes,

I am pleased and honoured about the appointment of
Illustrious Caseo Fabius Quintilianus. His knowledge
and experience will be more than useful.
As well, his appointment underlines the co-operation
existing within NR, this is a good sign that our
Republic is more than alive!!
A warm welcome in Egressus.

Respectfully,


=====
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Acting Praefectus for France, Sodalitatis Egressus

Terrarum dea gentiumque, Roma
Cui par est nihil et nihil secundum.

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Subject:	[novaroma] Confirmation of Priests
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 00:23:22 -0700

Salvete Quirites,

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the nominations of the new Sacerdos of Nova Roma.

I recognize Antonia Cornelia Octavia as the new Pontifex of Nova Roma

I recognize Marcus Equitius Paternus as the new Flamen Volcanalis of
Nova Roma

I recognize Lucia Ambrosia Valeria as the new Vestal of Nova Roma

I recognize Amulius Claudius Petrus as the new Sodales Salii of Nova
Roma

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Sacerdotess
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom for the positive
furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Subject:	[novaroma] WL: Rome ?s
From:	<3s@hsk-net.de>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 02:30:04 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete Quirites.

For your interest. Perhaps there´s anyone who can help her?

Valete
Caius Flavius Diocletianus

-- Original Nachricht--
Von: QueTpiebky@cs.com
An: censors@novaroma.org
Senden: 21.05.2002
Betreff: Rome ?s

I am doing a research on the Roman societal ways for a school project. One

of the things that I need to find is about Roman trade and have lokked almost

everywhere, but can not find a thing. That is why I have come to you. So,

if you will post this answer on your website that would be a big help!
Thanks!

your friend,
Rebecca

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: New Praefectus
From:	"Susan Brett" <trog99@hotmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 08:38:16 -0400

Salvete Omnes:

My congratulations to Caeso Fabius, Novus Praefectus Sodalitas Egressus.

Bene valete
Pompeia

>From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net (James Mathews)
>To: Egressus@yahoogroups.com, tjalens.h@telia.com (Caseo Fabius
>Quintilianius), rmerullo@conknet.com
>CC: trog99@hotmail.com, scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com, mcserapio@yahoo.it,
>NovaRoma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: New Praefectus
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:57:05 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Members of the Sodalitas Egressus;
>
>I am pleased to announce the appointment of the Sodalitas Egressus
>Praefectus for the Provincia of Thule, Caseo Fabius Quintilianus.
>
>During my visit to Norway recently, I had the good fortune to meet with
>Senator Quintilianus, in Oslo, and we passed some very interesting
>discussions. I suggested that perhaps he might be interested in the
>Egressus, and he said he was, as a member, and as someone who would like
>to further in some way the ideas and commitments of ths Sodalitas. I
>immediately offered him the position of Praefectus and he accepted.
>
>His existing staff for the Academia will be admitted to Egressus as he
>and / or they shall determine thier wish to do so. His responsibilities
>will encompass for the Thule Provincia any Legions which will be
>involved in that area, as well as any museums, classical organizations,
>clubs, and universities having a Classical Studies Department. Any
>organizational meetings or gatherings in the Provincia Thule will also
>come under his cognizance.
>
>The other Praefecti in Egressus are directed to work in close
>association with Praefectus Quintilianus in relation to material
>suitable, in his determination, for use in the Academia Thule.
>
>Praefectus Quintillianus, due to his deep involvement in Nova Roma in
>other areas, and as the Praetor of Thule is now appointed as a full
>Praefectus. He will come under the direction of myself and Dominus
>Praefectus Serapio. I would strongly recommend to Praefectus
>Quintilianus that suggestions from Beneficarius Strabo, and Primus Pilus
>Merrullus should be worthy of his attention.
>
>Praefectus Retarius, please add the name of Praefectus Quintillianus to
>the Egressus Website. Any further questions may be directed to myself or
>to the Beneficarius Strabo. Primus Pilus Merrullus is currently working
>on his house and is not in every day contact at the present time.
>
>Welcome to the Egressus Senior Staff, Praefectus Quintillianus. I look
>forward to your input to this Sodalitas
>
>Respectfully;
>
>Marcus Minucius Audens;
>
>Praefectus Fabrum -- Sodalitas Egressus -- Nova Roma
>
>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
>
>http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
>


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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: A Note on Quaestors
From:	"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 13:12:22 -0000

>>I mean: was it sarcastic...? ;)
Sorry for misunderstanding!<<

No, no...no sarcasm intended Mani Constantine my friend. Truly the
best of luck to you!

Vale,
Gaius Popillius Laenas

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: A Note on Quaestors
From:	"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 13:25:34 -0000

AVE GAI POPILLI LAENAS

> No, no...no sarcasm intended Mani Constantine my friend. Truly the
> best of luck to you!

I thank you for your kind words, Gai Popilli!
Anyway, I would like to offer my collaboration for this matter also
in case I am not elected. I hope citizens would accept it!

VALE OPTIME
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
***Candidate for Quaestor***
My Page: http://italia.novaroma.org/serapio
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Italiae
Dominus Praefectus Sodalitatis Egressus
------------------------------
Provincia Italia: http://italia.novaroma.org

Subject:	[novaroma] Acknowledgement of new priests
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 10:25:06 +0200

Salvete omnes Quirites,

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the nominations of the new Sacerdotes of Nova Roma.

I recognize Antonia Cornelia Octavia as the new Pontifex of Nova Roma
I recognize Marcus Equitius Paternus as the new Flamen Volcanis of Nova
Roma
I recognize Lucia Ambrosia Valeria as the new Vestal of Nova Roma
I recognize Amulius Claudius Petrus as the new Sodales Salii of Nova Roma

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Sacerdotes
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom for the positive
furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Curate ut valeatis, Tiberius Annaeus Otho
Lictor curiatus
scriba germaniae superioris
paterfamilias gentis Annaearum

Subject:	[novaroma] Coming HOME!
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 09:12:56 -0000

Salvete!

A few days ago we were notified {and it has been confirmed} that on
June 12 we are leaving Cuba, spending a week out-processing at Ft.
Stewart, Georgia, and then going back HOME. Our nine month service
since 9/11 is finally coming to a close, and soon I will be back in
the beautiful province of Mediatlantica. Home sweet home!
http://www.nsgtmo.navy.mil/JTF-160/News/April5.htm

Thanks to all who offered help with the Latin note---internet
conections here have been getting worse and I have been scarce online
to thank everyone.

Thanks to Cassius and Patricia, Sulla, Po, Labienus, Helena Galeria,
Don Meaker,{forgot his Roman name} Cincinnatus, and Sinicius Drusus,
and Audens for for their support during this long absence. {And
thanks to anyone I have inadvertantly missed}

It will still be too late for me to attend Roman Days, but I hope to
see as many Nova Romanii as possible in Nova Britannia this fall,
where I will give a hug to Cassius and shake Patricia's hand---
er...uh, shake Cassius hand and give Patricia a hug.

Hey....I notice the Muses list is not too active right now----we
shall have to do something about this when I get back.


Best Wishes to EVERYBODY in the Republic!

Gaius Cassius Nerva

Subject:	[novaroma] CALO to all quirites
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 11:46:16 +0200

The following text was written as an account of a three day reenactors
festival in Venlo, Netherlands, by my real and roman uncle. The text was
written to tell the citizens about the get-together in a funny way and to
make them attend other such occasions.

Translation was done by the aspiring translator for the German language,
Tiberius Annaeus Otho, since the original text was in German.

CALO to all citicens of Nova Roma.

First of all: Warning! Reading this new speech of Caius Annaeus Lucanus
Otho, who has just returned from the Netherlands, more exact, from Venlo,
can lead to damage to your brain. The writer does not account for any damage
done according to US and EU laws!

The cause for this preamble is, that our real roman neighbours in Venlo,
the soldiers of the Legio VI Victrix, who are longtime friends of mine,
have
warned us, the Cives Rauraci et Vicani Vindonissenses, that people like
food
inspectors can put up unimaginable laws and edicts, not only for the Legio
VI Victrix, but also for us, who, from the point of view of the barbarian
northern lands, come from the deep south, or better, from the core lands
of our wonderful imperium. Therefore we saw ourselves forced to get a written
statement from our most talented and to some of you already well-known
scribe Tiberius Annaeus Otho, containing some information about not
accounting for anything, if somebody wanted to eat food prepared in our
kitchen. This text was then made public everwhere on our Forum.

While trade was not so good during the first part of our three-day stay
in
the more or less barbaric northern lands and their inhabitants, my people
could, at the end, look back on successful sales and almost sold out
businesses. However, there was much more cause for happiness than only the
capitalistic part. There was the nordic weather: After huge food- and
incense offerings to Sol, the God decided to shine almost in southerly
fashion in the almost cloudless skies and the winds were kept back in
contrast to other times, so that our fearful cries in helvetic dialect "Hold
the tents" were never heard. None the less we used our voices to cry out.
In the arena with the gladiatorial combats. The pannonic men started rather
slow and hit each other with no strength - we, however, wanted blood! Only
in the last fights, when we were seated according to our rank, on our curule
chairs, there were duels, which did not stand behind those in the Colonia
Ulpia Traiana or even in Rome. Especially the small Retiarius was favoured
by our hearts, who was called Minimus, even though his real Greek name was
said to be Thomas. This Minimus had, during one of his walks around the
city, seen our dear Caesonia and he was so captured by what he saw (and
the
other way around), that he did everything to please her, which he did. At
least he was visited almost immoraly long in the gladiatorial school by
Caesonia after each combat and when the surviving fighters were transportet
to Spain in a cart, I thought that I saw a small tear in the eye of Caesonia
...

Once more, however, it came true, what the great Proximo used to say: WIN
THE CROWD! At least we almost cried our lungs out of our bodies between
wonderful sips of northern italian red wines and most sweet dates:
Mi-ni-mus, Mi-ni-mus! Thanks to all the Gods that we had fed the only 19
years old aspiring champion only too well in our kitchen. Due to this fact,
we did not loose too much money. Alltogether different, was the situation
for the Legio Sexta Victrix. The Primus Pilus, my old friend Claudius Suebus
Dentatus, threw, at the end of the fights, huge amounts of money into the
arena, where the ordinary people fought to get some of it. This to our very
hearty laughs at the not very honorable sight.

I could tell you much more: My lengthy pilosophical discussions with the
head of the gladiatorial school, my brother in Mithras, who still has not
managed to learn one of our cultural languages, so that even after 10 years,
I still have to talk to him with a translator. I could tell you how very
at home our senator and Propraetor Germaniae, Caius Flavius Diocletianus,
together with his wife and son, felt with us. I could tell you about the
wonderful things in the local museion, whereas the building itself was much
more interesting to me. I could write in detail about the exquisite food
from our own kitchen, which we take with us even on our longest journeys,
where Susanna Quincitlia Fornaria Lucullina and Paulus Nobilis Conductor
Manus without tyring prepared meal after meal for us, supported by Caesonia
and Tamaris Quinctilis Vara, from morning to evening, and how we then also
had to frequent the kitchen of our hosts, so as not to be unpolite, and
how
we once enjoyed a huge feast in the rooms our mansio. I could tell you about
the success of our fresko maker, Aulus Frigius Cobi, with his colorful,
magnificent works. The splendid last minute sales of our Tiberius Annaeus
Otho, the most praised materials, style and grace in make of the necklaces
and armchains, which Roscia Annaea Pia presented and sold, and the perplex
admiration of the people for the works of art, which our ladies from the
textile branch, Irrenia, Clara and Arita brought to light with their weaving
chairs and the table for making felt, where wonderful ribbons, colorful
cloths, as well as hats and so on were produced. And then there was our
most
faithful and untyring worker, Cathina, our maker of oillamps, whom we had
to send on holiday by edict of the legatus in order for her not to get
overworked. And last but not least there only remains my co-duumvir, friend,
partner, brother in magistrature and in official business superior, Quintus
Quinctilius Varus Galili, about who's work I could fill pages!

What has to be said about myself can be done shortly. I have drawn myself
back from the strenous working live during such long trips abroad, bothered
by many pains and aches and I am already planning my new means of
transportation for the future. Starting today, I am looking for 14 nubian
Slaves. I need three for the front right, and left, three for the back left,
and right, all goodlooking, with the same height and strength, and then,
to make up the number 14, I need two in reserve, with an interimistic order
to keep away the flies with huge fans made of ostrichfeathers ...

Yes, my dear Nova Romani, such was the life of our last few days! To all
those, who did not manage to visit us, to be welcomed as our guests and
be
spoiled by our splendid banquets and feasts, who did not see the games,
to
all those, I would like to put it into your hearts to try and make it to
one of our next reenactments. For instance on the 16th day of the month
Junius,
near the legions camp, better the near museion, in Vindonissa in Helvetian
country (Switzerland), or on the 25th day of the month named after our
deified Augustus in our splendid Colonia Raurica (Augusta Raurica in
Switzerland), and last but not least during the last weekend of the seventh
month according to the old calender, that would be the 28th and 29th of
September, in the Limescastel in Aalen, not too far from the border to
Barbarian Land, where we, the fanclub, so we hope, can welcome back in the
arena our Minimus from the Familia Gladiatoria Pannonica, in good health,
stronger and more victorious than ever.

In the meantime, time flies, I must tell my slave to get the message to
you
as fast as possible. Greetings to all of you and a hearty VALETE SEMPER,
CALO

Subject:	[novaroma] Roman Trade
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 10:33:31 -0400 (EDT)

Mistress;

Recently, I posted on the NR Main List a short treatise about Berenice,
Egypt a coastal city on the Red Sea. This trading center was active all
during the Roman Period, with it's high point between 1st Century B.C.
and 1st Century A.D.

The treatise was based on the field observations of Dominus Praefectus
Serapio during his travels as a member of the military staff of Italy,
just this year.

He reports that Berenice, Egypt was a major trading center which
recieved both goods from the Far East, and the Far West. The Eastern
Goods were recieved in Berenice by ship saling up the Red Sea, and then
transferred to camel trains moving across the desert (approximately 40
days) until they reached the Nile River. The Goods were then
transferred to river craft which took them to Alexandria, for transfer
to cargo ships bound for all points in the Mediterranean and North
Africa. Some may even have gone on to Roman Britain. Western Goods
were transported in the reverse order to Berenice where they were bound
for Far Eastern Markets.

Trade goods from the Far East included food spices, silk, glass or store
pearls, coconuts, incense, and myrrh.

Trade goods from the West included "young singers" (white girls for
Indian Harems), red coral, glass, wheat and wine.

The trade between Rome and Egypt was so important to Rome that the "corn
ships" were a vital part of the Mediterranean trade views. (If ancient
times wheat was referred to as "corn." Corn in the Americas was
referred to as "Maize.")

References for trade:

1.---Meijer 1986, 220-231---merchant ships and shipping;

2.---Parker 1980---examples of wrecks and thier cargoes;

3.---Throckmorton 1972---ships, shipbuilding, shipwrecks and cargoes;

4.---White 1984, 141-156, 210-213---ships, shpbuilding, anchors, cargoes
and navigation;

5.---Miller et all 1986---details of trade and an excavated quay at
London with numerous illustrations;

6.---Casson 1991--includes underwater finds, especially
amphorae,transport of good by shp, trade with the East, and the grain
supply from Egypt;

7.---Chevalier 1988, 272-298 busines travel, especially trade including
many literary sources;

8.---Dodge 1991---review article on the marble industry;

9.---du Platt Taylor and Cleere (eds) 1978---papers on trade between
Britain and the Rhine provinces;

10.---Greene 1986;

11.---Grew, et all 1985---evidence for trade in London;

12.---King 1990--trade in Gaul and Germany with bibliography;

13.---Miller 1969---spice trade,including countries of origin, trade
routes, traders, the import and export of oher goods beyond the Roman
Empire and customs;

14.---Milne 1985, 98-102 handling cargoes in the port of London,
especially amphorae;

15.---Parker 1980, cargoes of shipwrecks and seaborne trade;

16.---Peacoock and Williams 1986---amphorae;

17.---Rickman 1980---corn supply

The reference for the above material is the:

"Handbook To Life In Ancient Rome," Adkins and Adkins, Oxford University
Press, New York and Oxford, 1984.

The bibliographical items referred to above will be found in the above
reference's bibliography listing.

Other general areas of interest referring to trade and travel in the
Roman Empire might be:

--The Salt Road;

--Merchant Ships;

--Rivers, Canals, and Harbors;

--Roman Roads;

--Land Transport;

--Maps and Itineraries;

--Bridges and Tunnels;

--Trade in Food and Drink;
--Wine;
--Fish Sauce;
--Olive Oil;
--Grain;
--Spices;

--Trade in Amphorae, Barrels, Pottery Vessels, Glass, Metals, Stone,
Textiles, Anmals, and Slaves.

In fact, were I assembling a treatise on trade, I would make sure that
each of the above items was mentioned in at least a paragraph length
article.

I hope this message will provide for you some small assistance towards
your project.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens;

Quaestor, Senator, et ProConsul -- Nova Roma

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Coming HOME!
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 08:08:22 -0700

CONGRATULATIONS! :)

I bet you just can't wait to get home!

Take care Nerva!

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: gcassiusnerva
To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:12 AM
Subject: [novaroma] Coming HOME!


Salvete!

A few days ago we were notified {and it has been confirmed} that on
June 12 we are leaving Cuba, spending a week out-processing at Ft.
Stewart, Georgia, and then going back HOME. Our nine month service
since 9/11 is finally coming to a close, and soon I will be back in
the beautiful province of Mediatlantica. Home sweet home!
http://www.nsgtmo.navy.mil/JTF-160/News/April5.htm

Thanks to all who offered help with the Latin note---internet
conections here have been getting worse and I have been scarce online
to thank everyone.

Thanks to Cassius and Patricia, Sulla, Po, Labienus, Helena Galeria,
Don Meaker,{forgot his Roman name} Cincinnatus, and Sinicius Drusus,
and Audens for for their support during this long absence. {And
thanks to anyone I have inadvertantly missed}

It will still be too late for me to attend Roman Days, but I hope to
see as many Nova Romanii as possible in Nova Britannia this fall,
where I will give a hug to Cassius and shake Patricia's hand---
er...uh, shake Cassius hand and give Patricia a hug.

Hey....I notice the Muses list is not too active right now----we
shall have to do something about this when I get back.


Best Wishes to EVERYBODY in the Republic!

Gaius Cassius Nerva

Subject:	[novaroma] Re: [NovaRoma-Announce] Acknowledgement of new priests
From:	Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@inwave.com>
Date:	Wed, 22 May 2002 10:10:02 -0500

Avete Omnes,

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge the nominations of the new
Sacerdos of Nova Roma.

I recognize Antonia Cornelia Octavia as the new Pontifex of Nova Roma

I recognize Marcus Equitius Paternus as the new Flamen Volcanalis of Nova Roma

I recognize Lucia Ambrosia Valeria as the new Vestal of Nova Roma

I recognize Amulius Claudius Petrus as the new Sodales Salii of Nova Roma

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Sacerdotes of Nova Roma, and grant them
the guidance and wisdom for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor
upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator

Lictor Curiatus

Civis Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Legatus Occidentalis pro Magna Lacus

Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html

Domus Sodalis
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq/

"In Romae viae omniae terminant"