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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Propraetors Needed
From:	"M. Octavius Solaris" <hendrik.meuleman@pi.be>
Date:	Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:31:22 +0200

Salvete;

> > > Gallia - France and the low countries

What happened to the Germania Inferior plans? They failed to be put up for
three consecutive Senate votes, and consequently the future provincia has
run empty.

Valete;
Solaris


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 23
From:	"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net>
Date:	Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:07:01 -0400

CENSOR Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Quiritibus SPD

I want to first thank my colleagues Censor Diocletianus et Consul M Octavius
for their splendid support during my recovery from a serious back injury.
Mille gratius vobis ago!
Secondly, I want to apologize to everyone for my absence. I was simply
unable to do much more than survive. Please be patient as I continue to
recover. For some reason I'm able to do many things, but sitting at the
computer and typing causes me pain after a short time. I am able to do more
every day though. One good thing to come out of it was that we were able to
have our computer fixed during the time I was down.

> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Subject: After Action Report -- Roman Days -- 2002
>
> Citizens of Nova Roma;
>
> I beg your leave to make my report to you of the Roman Days Activities
> this last weekend.
>
> My wife and I did not originally plan to attend Roman Days this year,
> but the appeals of "Maximus" Minucius Gladius and the XXIVth Legion...
>
> There were no problems with the vehicle, but highway construction,...
>
> Our New York friends provided a fly under which the Senator was able to
> lay out the Senatorial splendor,!!!
>
> Actually, I had a lot of fun at the event. I got to see some old
> friends and re-new our aquaintance and I was privaledged to meet some
> new people who were most interesting. There were five Senators at the
> Event, Cassius and wife, Cincinnatus, Octavius Germanicus, and myself.
>
> The Commnder of the XXIVth Legio made up a "faces" and brought it down
> to my tent for display.!!!!
>
> The Event Location is a lovely park-like setting, and the surrounding
> lush foliage and trees are a great setting for the Event Location... We
are all under the
> command of the XXIVth Legion Commander.

LUCIUS EQUITIUS: Ahem, Roman Days is sponsored by LEGIO XX and under the
direction of Quintus Darius Macro aka Matthew Amt!

>
> Merlinia and another lady

LUCIUS EQUITIUS: The "Other Lady" would be Asellina Iulia Brittanica, a
proud member of Gens Equitia! See Asellina's Caupona
http://www.geocities.com/richsc53/

> provided Roman Food to the reenactors for a
> very nominal fee throughout the weekend. Merlinia the breakfasts and
> Supper Saturday. The other lady, the lunches for both days.

LUCIUS EQUITIUS: The Caupona offered many delicious items taken from
'Apicius, cookery & dining in Imperial Rome' ISBN 0-486-23563-7
'A Taste of Ancient Rome' by Ilaria Gozzini Giacosa ISBN 0-226-29032-8
And a great little book 'Roman Cookery, ancient recipes for modern kitchens'
by Mark Grant
ISBN 1-897959-39-7

> Nobody had the courage to serve "fat doormice with a honey sauce" but
> the "Ostrich Meatballs in a Green Sauce" were delicious... I probably
missed some
> stuff--I usually do, but I am sure, on this list, that someone will
> correct me if I did!!!!
>
> There were as well several very interesting displays:
>
> --Model buildings--Roman reference books;
> The buildings displayed were the Accropolis in Athens... These were
apparently models which are cardboard
> punch-outs from special "punch-out" books sold in Great Britain.
>
> (Note:--Anyone having any information about these punch-out books please
> contact me as I would like to order some of them--title, author,
> publisher, etc.)

LUCIUS EQUITIUS: Make this Roman Fort: ISBN 0-7460-0256-4
Pub. USBORN PUBLISHING (out of print)

Make This Model Greek Temple ISBN: 0746033141 $9.95 @ Barnes&Noble
Iain Ashman

> --Roman tools and weapons;

> --Modern Roman Board Games;
> The gentleman bought several Board Games and some books relating to the
> set-up of your own battle games...

> One of the Roman Sutler's was "Wren's Nest",
>
> --Roman Coin and Artifact Dealer.
> This was Cassius and wife who have for the last few years offered Roman
> Coins and Artifacts as well as Nova Roma flags, coins, and other NR
> memorabilia.

> --XXth and XXIVth Legio Displays--
> These were the displays that the people really came to see. The leather
> tent of the XXth together with weapons and personal equipment,
>
> The rest of the time I walked around the encampment acting the part...
!!!!!!

> My thanks to
> all who made the trip so rewarding!!!!
>
> Respectfully Submitted;
>
> Marcus Minucius Audens

LUCIUS EQUITIUS: I am very glad that I was able to 'turn out' and spend time
with my "ol' friends' and to have the pleasure meeting Consul, and webmaster
extraordinaire, Marcus Octavius Germanicus, a gentleman of the highest
order.
I hope to be able to make the trip to Maine for the Sept 7,2002 "A Roman
Market Day" (Cassius, you ought to publish the 'tri fold' like the Nova Roma
one)

Valete


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Biographical Dictionary - Clarification
From:	"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:42:35 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "curiobritannicus"
<Marcusaemiliusscaurus@h...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes,
>
> There has been a great response so far, with several people e-
mailing
> me promising biographies. However, some have said that they come
> from other web sites or books. Unfortunately, due to copyright
laws,
> we cannot reproduce these on the Nova Roma website, which is where
> the encyclopaedia will end up.
>
> Instead, I ask that you all write a few paragraphs yourself about
> your favourite Roman! Your work will be displayed on the main web
> page, and and you will be credited with its writing. And
ultimately,
> this encyclopaedia will be a valuable research tool, if we can
build
> it up now.
>
> Bene valete,
> Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
> Aedile Plebis.

My favourite Roman is Marcus Aurelius Antoninus. He was born during
the reign of Hadrian. As a young child he was named Marcus Anius
Verus but his high born parents both died young. He was first adopted
by his grandfather and he recieved an excellent education by well
known tutors. At 17 years of age, his uncle by marriage, Auerilius
Antonius, who had just become emporer adopted Marcus. Auerilias
Antonius had no sons. He changed Marcus'name to his own then married
Marcus off to his daughter called Faustina. Marcus and Faustina had 5
children but only one survived, Commodus. Now Marcus had another
adopted brother from his uncle called Lucius Verus. Marcus made
Lucius a partener in government so Rome had 2 emperors in charge for
the first time. During this time there were many problems throughout
the Empire. There were invaisions by the Barbarians, famines, plagues
and natural disasters. About 167 AD Marcus left his brother in charge
in Rome in order to be with his legions on the Danube. He held off
the invaders there and then for a brief time he went to Asia to stop
a revolt of Avidius Cassius. He then returned to the Danube region
where he lived a tough life with his legions. There he wrote his
reflections on life in a series of writings known as his Meditations.
These meditations show great humanity as well as humility. His
Philosophy on life was very stoic. For example he said that every day
you should deny yourself 3 things you want to do then force yourself
to do 3 things you do not wish to do. You then build character! His
thoughts and traditions have been admired in the Christian world even
though he persecuted some of them ( eg. not serving in the army etc).
Marcus Aurelius died on duty from disease in 180 AD. I always have
admired this great Roman because he suffered the hardships with his
men showing he would ask no one to do what he would not do himself
and in his reign he turned a weakening Empire around and made it
greater than before. Had there been a more Emperors like Marcus after
his death, perhaps the Roman Empire would have lasted well into the
middle ages or longer, we would have avoided the dark ages,
technology may have evolved faster and earlier and who knows, maybe
we would have colonized Mars by now and be heading for the stars. ----
- I hope this is satisfactory to you Marcus Scribonius Curio
Britannicus. I am waiting on citizenship so I hope I am allowed to
contribute things or ideas before hand. If you wish any further
editing or have any comments I would be glad to know. Vale for now -
Michael Kelly.


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] The San Diego River
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:22:59 -0400 (EDT)

ProConsul Maximus;

Your comments remind me of three ideas that I have been meaning to share
in regard to archaeology. Ah yes, how we used to laugh at the grand
name of the "river" since most of the year it is approximately six
inches across and buried in the brush choking the bottom of the canyon
or lost in the storm drains further up the gorge.

However, there is a photograph in the cupula of the old church above and
on the South side of the canyon mouth. It was taken at the hieght of
the 100 year flood in the early twenties, I believe, and shows quite
clearly why the San Diego River Canyon is so wide and deep, for such
small river. The picture shows the river at the mouth of the canyon,
taken from that very window, as being 1/2 mile wide!!

Just before I left San Diego in 1978, we were "treated" to a "fifty
year" flood, and this deluge flooded the Convention Hall and many of the
stores in the shopping centers in the canyon center, as well as all the
underground parking areas. Buildings which have since been rebuilt,
improved upon, and many times have been increased in size. The road
which crosses the canyon over a storm drain some 30-40 feet wide and at
least 20 feet deep was flooded out to the depth of 15 feet, and several
vehicles trapped on that road were lost in the flood. That is one heck
of a lot of water!!!!

This is a very interesting aspect of archaeology, when we must take into
consideration the extremes of floods, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes /
tidal waves, tornadoes and other natural phenomena that regularly occur
in nature. When you consider the fact that 100 year floods have
occurred 20+ times since the beginning of the Empire and a number of
times in the Republic as well, the face of the world begins to change as
we become more sensitized to our natural surroundings.

Deep in the desert of Northern Mexico along the Eastern slopes of the
Sierra De Juarez Mountains, and on the western shore of Laguna Salada (a
dry lake bed), while investigating Indian Rock Carvings, and mano-matate
holes in living rock used by the Indians to pound dry seeds into a
flour-paste, one would think that this area would seldom, if ever, see
more than just an inch or less of water a year, but further up a small
dry watercourse was a great round pit in solid rock, with a smooth stone
"pipe" which emptied into this "caldron". The pipe was the obvious work
of erosion forces as there were no indications that it had been worked
or enlarged by tools. Inside there was probably fifty gallons of water
(about 1/5th of the "caldron's" full capacity, and inside this water
reservoir was literally thousands of wild honey bees. Around our camp
and the desert floor for miles was a silence and deadness such as I have
never experienced before, but within 20 yards of that "caldron" the
sound of bees was so loud that it sounded like the inside of a hive must
sound on a still day.

I was struck with the idea, that the world is not always as it seems, to
our short-lived experiences, and when those of us who have an interest
in re-establishing the lives and cultures of long ago, we must always be
willing to look at what we see today through the colored lens of what
has occurred in the long periods of time, as well as the "extremes" of
natural phenomena, the results of which are there to see clearly if one
knows what to look for.

Just recently (the last year so) archaeologists were contemplating the
unusual burn marks in around Herculinium. For years the makrks had been
there, but they did not fit any known kind of fires which would have
covered such a large area. Recently, the eruption of Mount Saint Helens
in the state of Washington (U.S.) gave some clues to these marks. When
St. Helens exploded, there was a great cloud of dust which moved down
the mountain, and it was determined by vulcanologists that this cloud
was superheated gas fueled by the temperatures inside the volcano tube.
Archaeologists looking at this St. Helens phenomena made some
measurements and came to the conclusions that what had happeed at St.
Helens was probably what happened at Herculinium. A great cloud of
superheated smoke and gas rolled down the steep sides of Vesuvius and
literally baked every thing in it's path, immediately igniting wood and
flammable objects on contact and suffocating the residents who had taken
refuge deep within the structure arches of the city itself. When these
arches were excavated the missing bodies of the residents of Herculinium
were found, just as had been predicted by those who had done the
comparison research.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Girlchild name
From:	"flaccusnero" <corvus@centrum.sk>
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:06:43 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Atheleas" <Atheleas131@a...> wrote:
> I think "Julia" is the answer.
>
>
> My question is:
>
> Name the seven hills of Rome....

Quirinal (us/is?)
Viminal (us/is?) I'm not sure about correct latin form
Aventinus
Palatinus
Esquilinus
Caelium
Capitol

Oppius Constantinus Flaccus Nero

>
> Arria Rutilia Emapanda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Nova-Roma@y...>
> To: <Nova-Roma@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:33 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 23
>
>
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@y...
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > There are 7 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Ludi Vestalia - Cultural Contribution Vote
> > From: "curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@h...>
> > 2. RE: Propraetors Needed
> > From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@y...>
> > 3. Re: Appollonia Acta
> > From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@y...>
> > 4. Locutio
> > From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@y...>
> > 5. Chainquiz III
> > From: "curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@h...>
> > 6. After Action Report -- Roman Days -- 2002
> > From: jmath669642reng@w...
> > 7. Legate Major's Needed
> > From: Charlie Collins <cotta@s...>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:12:24 -0000
> > From: "curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@h...>
> > Subject: Ludi Vestalia - Cultural Contribution Vote
> >
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > Another event of these Ludi will be to hold a vote, a vote which
any
> > civis
> > of Nova Roma can take part in. We will be voting to choose the
person
> > who
> > has given the greatest cultural contribution to Nova Roma in 2755
> > A.U.C., or
> > 2002 A.D.
> >
> > This person might be an excellent authority on the Religio
Romana, or
> > a
> > great contributor of material on the main list. Alternatively, it
> > might be
> > a very knowledgeable member of the Sodalitas Militarium, or
someone
> > who
> > wrote particularly fine piece of poetry or prose in the Sodalitas
> > Musarum.
> > Or perhaps someone who is always ready to answer scholarly
questions
> > on the
> > main list. Or anyone else you can think of who has contributed to
the
> > cultural atmosphere of Nova Roma.
> >
> > In this first week, from the time of posting, you can vote for
> > anyone, until
> > Sunday June 16. On that day, I will post a list of the three cives
> > who
> > gained the most votes. From then until Sunday June 23, I ask that
you
> > vote
> > again, to decide who amongst those three has given the most to
Nova
> > Roma,
> > culturally speaking.
> >
> > This is also supposed to be light-hearted, so no
> > campaigning, please! ;-) Although no real prize will be awarded to
> > the
> > winner of this, it will be good to honour those who have
contributed
> > a great
> > deal.
> >
> > To vote, please e-mail me at marcusscribonius@hotmail , giving me
> > your
> > Roman name and the Roman name of the person who you consider
> > deserving of
> > this recognition.
> >
> > Bene valete,
> > Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus,
> > Aedile Plebis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@y...>
> > Subject: RE: Propraetors Needed
> >
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > I would have been honoured and would have loved to
> > apply for the position of Propraetor Provincia Gallia
> > but I am far to fulfill what is required. Except some
> > good experience about managing a team, I have been a
> > citizen for only 3 monthes.
> > Nevertheless, there is a huge potential in Provincia
> > Gallia and I will be more than pleased to help the
> > next Propraetor.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > --- Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > Salve Galle Socelli,
> > >
> > > The qualifications are:
> > >
> > > The Senate of Nova Roma, by this consultum, declares
> > > that, from the time
> > > of the passage of this consultum, (June 02, 2000)
> > > Propraetores of
> > > Nova Roman Provinciae will have to meet the
> > > following minimum standards:
> > >
> > > I. Proposed Governor has a minimum of 9 months
> > > membership in Nova Roma;
> > >
> > > II. Proposed Governor have served a minimum of 6
> > > months in some
> > > service area within Nova Roma;
> > >
> > > III. Proposed Governor have some significant
> > > administrative experience
> > > in handling people.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Salve.
> > > > What people need to due to being a proprietors.
> > > > Gallus socellius lutorius
> > > > Vale.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > > [mailto:alexious@e...]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:07 PM
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@y...;
> > > novaroma-announce@y...
> > > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Propraetors Needed
> > > >
> > > > Avete Omnes,
> > > >
> > > > The following provinces are in need of
> > > propraetors:
> > > >
> > > > Gallia - France and the low countries
> > > > Sarmatia - Russia
> > > > Mediatlantica - Mid Atlantic states of the United
> > > States
> > > > Mexico
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in applying for such a
> > > position please email
> > > > consuls@n...
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully,
> > > >
> > > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > > > Consul of Nova Roma
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > Curator Araneum et Senator
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Sextus Apollonius Scipio
> > Acting Praefectus for France, Sodalitatis Egressus
> >
> > Terrarum dea gentiumque, Roma
> > Cui par est nihil et nihil secundum.
> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:36:28 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Appollonia Acta
> >
> > Honoured Praefectus Fabrum,
> >
> > thank you very much for your words. It is just a
> > pleasure for me to share my passion with others.
> > But there is much more to be done!! Preserving and
> > promoting the Roman heritage is a huge task that needs
> > time and efforts from all of us. We are just at the
> > beginning and it will be a long way.
> > Thank you again for your supportive post.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> >
> >
> > --- jmath669642reng@w... wrote:
> > > Praefectus Appollonius;
> > >
> > > Honored Sir;
> > >
> > > I am just returned from "Roman Days" and have
> > > "surfaced" from a long
> > > evening's rest from the 9 hour road trip back home
> > > again!!!!
> > >
> > > My congratulations on the subject publication. Your
> > > ideas and even more
> > > so the carrying out of your ideas for the benefit of
> > > others in Nova Roma
> > > through the aupicius of Sodalitas Egressus is most
> > > impressive!!! It is
> > > for just such reasons / activities that the
> > > Sodalitas Egressus was
> > > formed!!!! My congratulations to you, both as
> > > friend, and as honored
> > > and valued Egressus Praefectus is forwarded by
> > > E-Mail in lieu of my
> > > present inability to stand at your side, shake your
> > > hand, and honor you
> > > face-to- face!!!!!
> > >
> > > Beneficarius Strabo; Please save this subject
> > > material to have placed on
> > > the Egressus Website, when the Webmistress is again
> > > online.
> > >
> > > Respectfully, With Pride and Great Satisfaction;
> > >
> > > Marcus Minucius Audens;
> > > Praefectus Fabrum -- Sodalitas Egressus -- Nova Roma
> > >
> > > Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Sextus Apollonius Scipio
> > Acting Praefectus for France, Sodalitatis Egressus
> >
> > Terrarum dea gentiumque, Roma
> > Cui par est nihil et nihil secundum.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:48:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@y...>
> > Subject: Locutio
> >
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > the "locutio" of the day:
> >
> > Virtus est medium vitiorum et utrimque reductum.
> > (Horace)
> > (Virtue is a medium term between two sins and half way
> > of the two ot them.)
> >
> > Optime valete.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Sextus Apollonius Scipio
> > Acting Praefectus for France, Sodalitatis Egressus
> >
> > Terrarum dea gentiumque, Roma
> > Cui par est nihil et nihil secundum.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:15:52 -0000
> > From: "curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@h...>
> > Subject: Chainquiz III
> >
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > It's time for the third question! Yesterday's question was: Who
was
> > the last western Roman emperor?
> >
> > The first person to give me the correct answer was Tiberius
Annaeus
> > Otho, who knew that the last western Roman emperor was Romulus
> > Augustulus.
> >
> > He asks: Which firstname was usually given to a female child
> > in Rome?
> >
> > If you think you know the answer, please e-mail me at
> > marcusscribonius@h... with the answer, your Roman name, and
> > the question that you would like to ask.
> >
> > Bene valete,
> > Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:31:25 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: jmath669642reng@w...
> > Subject: After Action Report -- Roman Days -- 2002
> >
> > Citizens of Nova Roma;
> >
> > I beg your leave to make my report to you of the Roman Days
Activities
> > this last weekend.
> >
> > My wife and I did not originally plan to attend Roman Days this
year,
> > but the appeals of "Maximus" Minucius Gladius and the XXIVth
Legion
> > Commander could not in all good conscience be ignored, and so we
elected
> > to drive to the Baltimore area, rather than fly as on previous
> > occasions. It took us 9 1/2 hours to get there and 8 1/2 hours to
> > return. It was a long drive both ways, leaving here (New London,
CT
> > area) at 12:30 P.M. Friday, and returning at 1:45 A.M. on Monday.
> >
> > There were no problems with the vehicle, but highway construction,
> > accidents along the way, and peak traffic delays were encountered
all
> > the way down and back.
> >
> > Our New York friends provided a fly under which the Senator was
able to
> > lay out the Senatorial splendor, and relax in a fashion befitting
such
> > an august personage (Grin!!!!!!!) My thanks to the "Wolf of
Britain"
> > and wife. The Wolf also presented me with a leather water bottle
filled
> > with wine. Double thanks, my friend!!!
> >
> > Actually, I had a lot of fun at the event. I got to see some old
> > friends and re-new our aquaintance and I was privaledged to meet
some
> > new people who were most interesting. There were five Senators
at the
> > Event, Cassius and wife, Cincinnatus, Octavius Germanicus, and
myself.
> >
> > The Commnder of the XXIVth Legio made up a "faces" and brought it
down
> > to my tent for display. It stands about 3 1/2 feet tall, is
about 10"
> > in diameter, and wieghs about 20-25 lbs. He very generously
offered the
> > faces to me to display in my tent whenever I show up at events--
very
> > nice, that!!!! After the Event was over we had our pictures taken
> > together with the Commander acting as a "Lictor" and I in my
Senatorial
> > Tunic and Toga. My thanks again Commander--the thought was much
> > appreciated!!!!
> >
> > The Event Location is a lovely park-like setting, and the
surrounding
> > lush foliage and trees are a great setting for the Event
Location. The
> > "ludi Maximus Gladitori" was set up in a small flat area, just
off the
> > driveway into the Main House. It was here that we set up the
Gladiator
> > Camp, separate but close to the XXIVth Legion to whom and with
whom the
> > school is associated. We are all under the command of the XXIVth
Legion
> > Commander.
> >
> > The Ludi Maximus Gladitori put on four exhbitions in two days:
> >
> > --Training sessions with Gladiators in camp (Sat. P.M.);
> >
> > --Gladiator Fights in the Arena (Sat. P.M.);
> >
> > --Training Sessions (Sun.A.M.);
> >
> > --Gladiator Fights (Sun P.M.).
> >
> > Merlinia and another lady provided Roman Food to the reenactors
for a
> > very nominal fee throughout the weekend. Merlinia the breakfasts
and
> > Supper Saturday. The other lady, the lunches for both days.
> >
> > Nobody had the courage to serve "fat doormice with a honey sauce"
but
> > the "Ostrich Meatballs in a Green Sauce" were delicious. We were
served
> > Polenta and cheese, with boiled eggs for breakfast on Saturday
with
> > fruit preserves. Lunch was stuffed grape leaves, bread, chopped
nuts
> > cooked in honey and wine, olives and wine / fruit juice. Dinner on
> > Saturday was a specialty of Merlinia's and company--A salad of
greens,
> > wine / fruit juice, spiced bean sauce, Fava Beans, spiced
vegetables,
> > Lentils, fish fillets, Garum Sauce, and finished with melon and a
> > elderberry flan. Breakfast on Sunday was boiled guinea eggs,
barley
> > mush with currents and fruit butter, and melon slices. A wide
variety
> > of fresh fruit (apples, grapes, peaches, plums, bananas) were
available
> > at the Glad. School as well as seeded dates. I probably missed
some
> > stuff--I usually do, but I am sure, on this list, that someone
will
> > correct me if I did!!!!
> >
> > There were as well several very interesting displays:
> >
> > --Model buildings--Roman reference books;
> > The buildings displayed were the Accropolis in Athens, the Roman
> > Colliseum (this model had a sectionalized piece removed from the
model
> > showing the interior), a Roman Military Fort (this model had lift
off
> > and "peek-a-boo" roof openings with the room interiors
displayed), and a
> > large Roman Villa. These were apparently models which are
cardboard
> > punch-outs from special "punch-out" books sold in Great Britain.
> >
> > (Note:--Anyone having any information about these punch-out books
please
> > contact me as I would like to order some of them--title, author,
> > publisher, etc.)
> >
> > --Roman tools and weapons;
> >
> > --My bridge drawings and models of bridge and signal tower;
> >
> > --Modern Roman Board Games;
> > The gentleman bought several Board Games and some books relating
to the
> > set-up of your own battle games. I didn't get back to take down
the
> > names of the games and the books, but I did get to talk with him
> > briefly. I believe he said he was Commander Amt's (XXth Legio)
brother,
> > so perhaps the gentleman will make his information available to
Nova
> > Roma.
> >
> > --Children's Games and Projects;
> >
> > --Two Roman Sutlers;
> >
> > One of the Roman Sutler's was "Wren's Nest", the proprietor of
whom was
> > kind enough to punch some new holes in my sandals in order to
tighten
> > them up and then punched some new holes in my belt (lost some
> > wieght---maybe!!)
> >
> > --Roman Coin and Artifact Dealer.
> > This was Cassius and wife who have for the last few years offered
Roman
> > Coins and Artifacts as well as Nova Roma flags, coins, and other
NR
> > memorabilia. I was pleased to accept thier kind hospitality
under thier
> > fly for a part of each day, together with Cassius' stimulating and
> > provacative conversation. Thank you for your thoughtful and most
kind
> > invitation.
> >
> > --XXth and XXIVth Legio Displays--
> > These were the displays that the people really came to see. The
leather
> > tent of the XXth together with weapons and personal equipment,
> > accoutrements and uniforms all were very interesting and
intriguing.
> > The XXIVth display showed the camp surrounded by palisade stakes
and
> > featured a wolf skin and weapons , as well as a wide variety of
military
> > artifacts.
> >
> > The rest of the time I walked around the encampment acting the
part of
> > an insufferable ass (easy for me!!!!!) of a Roman Senator, Part-
Owner of
> > the Gladiator School and in complete charge of all the slaves
> > therein--Great Stuff!!!!!!
> >
> > We spent a couple of hours each day showing youngsters how to use
the
> > wooden training swords and shields at the two practice butts set
up in
> > the gladiator camp. "Maximus" laid out a beautiful display of
Gladiator
> > Helmets and weapons. We now have a very nice selection of
gladiator
> > weapons, helmets and equipment and are adding to the number all
the
> > time. We got three new adult recruits and a young boy at this
event,
> > and one of them took over as the "Linista" (referee) in the
arena, and
> > the other two were chained together for the Sunday Arena fights.
One
> > was given a shield, the other a mace, and encouraged at Pilum
Point to
> > beat each other to death. The "survivor" of that conflict was
> > dispatched by "Maximus", upon his entry into the arena, by having
his
> > neck broken (great new device for sound effects---really
chilling!!).
> >
> > Saturday's fight was a brisk encounter, between the Wolf and
Maximus,
> > which ended in the death of the "Wolf". The fake blood spurted
out
> > about four feet, and caught the attention and admiration of the
> > spectators.
> >
> > The "Wolf" fought "Maximus" (under another name) and beat him
severely.
> > The Wolf got the net caught in his Trident and very nearly came to
> > grief!!! Blood (fake) flowed freely and everyone's natural blood
lust
> > (well disguised, of course) was satisfied, and the women in the
audience
> > were given the chance to cheer the winner and drool over his
obvious
> > physical attributes (again well-hidden, but well done!!!)
> >
> > On both days, "Game Editors" were selected from the audience,
primed as
> > to thier duties, and placed in charge of the determination of
life or
> > death to the gladiators. They both followed the dictates of the
> > audience who screamed their preferences with abandon.
> >
> > We in the Gladiator School now have a very nice membership of
eight
> > "solid " members who are regulars, with some others who come as
they are
> > able. There are some ladies who dress out and others who assist
in a
> > variety of ways as well.
> >
> > The Event entertained about 300 to 400 visitors (my rough
estimate--gets
> > better every year!!) with about 40-50 reenactors. The Gladiator
School
> > plans to do one more event this year at the present time--Welles,
Maine.
> > Eisenhower Park (Long Island) Heritage Festival Coordinator just
today
> > contacted my wife and notified her, in response to an inquiry,
that due
> > to problems with the festival it would not be held this year. If
anyone
> > is further interested in this future planned event, I direct you
to
> > Marcus Cassius Julianus.
> >
> > My sincere thanks for the applications of "Maximus" and Commander
> > Gallio, for me to again consider attending the event. They both
were
> > very helpful and generous in their welcome. Normally any person
would
> > go a long way for a welcome such I recieved at Roman Days. My
thanks to
> > all who made the trip so rewarding!!!!
> >
> > Respectfully Submitted;
> >
> > Marcus Minucius Audens
> >
> > Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
> >
> >
> > http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:30:33 -0500
> > From: Charlie Collins <cotta@s...>
> > Subject: Legate Major's Needed
> >
> > Avete Omnes,
> > If you live in America Medioccidentalis Superior
Province I
> > am looking for Citizens
> > interested in serving the Province and Nova Roma by becoming one
of my
> > Legate Major's.
> > I need one in each of the 3 Regio's of the Province.
> >
> > Regio Campus: KS, NE, and MO
> > Regio Silvestri: IA, MN, ND, and SD
> > Regio Montanus: Montana and Wyoming
> >
> > Please contact me if you are interested.
> >
> >
> > Sextus Cornelius Cotta
> >
> > --
> > Propraetor, America Medioccidentalis Superior
> > AIM: Cotta Two
> > JabberID: cotta@m...
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Girlchild name
From:	"flaccusnero" <corvus@centrum.sk>
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:09:37 -0000


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] ATTN [Religio Romana]: Idibus Iunii (on June 13th)
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <antonio.grilo@inov.pt>
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:24:57 +0100

ANTONIVS GRYLLVS GRAECVS PONTIFEX OMNIBVS CIVIBVS SALVTEM

This is a dies nefastus publicus (NP), a day for special religious
observance on which no legal action or public business can take place.

The Idus of every month are sacred to Iuppiter. An white ewe is sacrificed
to Iuppiter by the Flamen Dialis.

Today is the aniversary of the temple of Iuppiter Invictus [Ovidius, Fasti,
6.650; De Sanctis, SR, IV.2.i, 132 n.24], probably the same celebrated on
April 13th. If the temples are the same, one of the celebrations is probably
the aniversary of a restoration.

Today is also the first day of the "Quinquatrus Minusculae" (the "Maior
Quinquatrus" being held on 19-23 Martius), which is held from June 13th to
June 15th. This festival was mainly celebrated by the 'tibicines' (public
flute-players who played at religious occasions to drown out any ill-omened
noises; they also attended funerals and enlivened feasts) in honour of
Minerva, their patron deity [Festus, De verborum significatione, on
'Minusculae Quinquatrus'].
Each year the guild of 'tibicines' met at the temple of Minerva [Varro, De
Lingua Latina, 6.17] and then went to the temple of Iuppiter for a feast
near the shrine of the Minerva. Livy [Livius, Ab Urbe Condita, 9.30.5 seq.]
tells how in 311 BC, after they had been forbidden by the Censors to hold
their traditional banquet, they had withdrawn to Tibur until the Senate
persuaded the Tiburtines to return them; this was achieved by a ruse. After
their return they were allowed "for three days each year to roam through the
city in festive robes ('ornati'), making music and enjoying the license that
is now costumary, and to those who played at rekigious ceremonies the right
of dining in the temple was restored".
Thus the 'tibicines' roamed the city for three days, wearing masks and long
robes ('stolae longae', which were women's clothes). They must have livened
Rome up, especially if they played 'in the midst of serious business, both
public and private' [Valerius Maximus, 2.5.6].

Di vos bene ament


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Chainquiz V
From:	"curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 2002 19:07:56 -0000

Salvete omnes,

It's time for the next question! The first person to answer
yesterday's question correctly was Gaius Cornelius Ahenobarbus, who
knew that the female child gets the feminine version of their family
nomen.

He asks: Which Gallic king sacked Rome, and what famous Latin phrase
is attributed to him?

If you know the answer, please e-mail me at
marcusscribonius@hotmail.com with your answer, your Roman name, and
the question you would like to ask.

Bene valete,
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Absentia
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 2002 22:05:11 +0200

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

Finally I can have a week-end of relax far from my daily hard work. From
June 14 to 17.
I'll in Bonomia (Bologna) for a big rock concert (within great artist like
Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Santana, Chemical Broth., etc.). In my little trip I
hope to meet some Nova Roman citizens like the italian Gens Solaria and
Marcus Iulius Perusianus.
I'll come back in June 18!

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
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Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre


Subject:	Germania Inferor/Gallia (Re: [Nova-Roma] Propraetors Needed)
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:56:37 -0700

Avete M. Octavius et Omnes,

"M. Octavius Solaris" wrote:

> Salvete;
>
> > > > Gallia - France and the low countries
>
> What happened to the Germania Inferior plans? They failed to be put up
> for
> three consecutive Senate votes, and consequently the future provincia
> has
> run empty.
>

Let me answer this for you. As far as I know those plans have been
shelved at the present time.

When my colleague and I were both willing to present the agenda item to
the Senate we were asked by the individual who was going to be the
propraetor to delay any presentation of that item to the Senate. This
happened around February, if I recall correctly, and to date I have not
received any notification to resume that process.

In addition to this the other individuals who were actively working
toward the establishment of Germania Inferior resigned their Nova Roman
citizenship and quite frankly no one else has really worked for the
establishment of the provincia more feverently than those individuals.
To the point that between their resignation and your posting I have not
heard of a single comment regarding the establishment of Germania
Inferior.

Finally, I am now somewhat concerned about breaking up the provincia of
Gallia due to the fact that a large provincia with a larger population
has yet to have someone come forward who meets the qualifications to be
a Propraetor. What would be the use to further break down a provincia
when the larger provincia doesn't have a governor? I would rather have
a larger provincia with a governor than two smaller provincia's each
with no governor.

In the future when there is a larger population base in Gallia I hope
that we can reopen the issue of Germania Inferior and make its existence
a reality.

I hope this answers your concerns.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma

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