Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: The "Roman Youth Union" fix
From:	"amequitius" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:56:52 -0000

Amulius Equitius Germanicus Caesonis Fabio Quintiliano S.P.D.
I never ment anything by saying you had bad latin, I was only
poking at you in good fun. The J was created somewhere between 4-900
C.E. I couldn't tell you the person or when... I forgot :(. Anyhoo,
The J was created to mark a difference between the consonant I and
the vowel I, for there was no difference in Classical Latin, e.g.
IVPPITER and Juppiter/IOVE and Jove. Thus, Juventas (Juventas,
Juventatis) is the same as Iuventas [pronounced (yoo-WEN-tas)]. The
problem with the suggestion is the case (plus its Juvent(a)tis not
Juventutis, not sure if that wass typo). In Latin, Syntax was VERY
different form English. Instead of word order, they used suffixes to
designate what its use was in the sentance. The different endings
showed what case the word was in. In this case, the genitive is
needed for the Possessive of Genitive. And Since Romana is an
adjective (Romanus, Romana, Romanum) is must agree with what its
describing (Juventatas) in gender, number and case. Youth would be
plural. And since Juventatas is feminine, the adj. is Romana. The
plural genative of Juventatas is Juventatium, and Romana copies as
Romanarum, the genitive, plural, feminine form of Romanus. Thus, the
final result Sodalitas Iuventatium Romanarum (The Society of Roman
Youth). Sodalitas is pronouced with a long "o" as in "ohhh"(sod-A-)
long "a" as in "father"(li) "i" an in "ee"(TAS)long "a". Iuventatium-
> Iu(YOO) ven (wen) ta(TA) long "a" ti(ti) um(um) "i" as in "ee"
and "u" as in "uhhh". Romanarum Ro (RO)long "o" man(man) long "a" as
in "father" ar(AR)as in "are" um(um) same as above. sod-A-li-TAS YOO-
wen-TA-ti-um
RO-man-AR-um.

hope this was some help.

Gods be with you.

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@t...>
wrote:
> Salve Honorable Am. Equitius Germanicus!
>
> I am not surprised that my Latin is _bad_. ;-) I have never studied
> Latin, but I do my best to uphold the Roman Culture and reestablish
> the Roman civilization.
>
> When it comes to Latin I have got many suggestions from different
> people. I am very active in Nova Roma, but I wouldn't achieve
> anything if I wasn't prepared to listen to others, who may be
> superior to me in some area. ;-) At the moment the actual proposal
> is: "Sodalitas Iuventutis Romanae (SIR). I have been advised to use
> this by a couple of citizens, what do You think?

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Sodalitas Iuventutis Romanae
From:	"pro_postumius" <socraticquestion@netscape.net>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:38:52 -0000

Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus Civibus Novae Romae S.P.D.

Salvete,

Although an official title and such has not been established yet, I'd
like to go ahed and get this thing in motion. (N.B. Everything I'm
about to say is merely suggestion.) I have come to the conclusion
that it may be beneficial to this sodalitas, when it is established,
to have a concilium senior (senior council) and a concilium iunior
(junior council). The concilium senior should consist of 5 adults (id
est, citizens age 18 or elder), to prescribe recommended teachings in
the fields of history, religion, government/civitas, literature, the
arts, philosophy, and other fields, to be taught by either the
council themselves, senior members of the sodalitas (liberi), or
other cives as discretioned by the concilium senior. They shall serve
as the overseers of the sodalitas, and be responsible for all
internal operations as seen fit by the Senate. The concilium iunior
should consist of 6 minors (cives not sui iuris by municipal
legislation), having been elected to the positions of iunior censor,
iunior consul, and iunior praetor. They shall serve as the senior
members of the sodalitas, and as such, be responsible for fufilling
the roles assigned them by the concilium senior, respective to their
position. There shall also be a Senatus Iunior, who shall be the
Senate of the sodalitas (membership into the Senate is to be granted,
suspended, or removed by the iunior censors, or the concilium
senior). The Senate may issue it's consulta to the elected iunior
magistrates, and may exercise jurisdiction over the iunior treasury,
should there be one. The Iunior Senate is empowered the same rights
and obligations as the Senatus Novae Romae, however, it's
jurisdiction extends only to the members of the sodalitas, and the
decisions thereof may be revoked by the concilium senior.

Well, that's just a start. I probably need to slow down, as I dont
think we have enough minors for all this. But I can dream, can't I?

Tell me your thoughts, please.

Valete,

Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] New Citizen
From:	"gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 00:39:08 -0000

Salvete,

I think we have a new citizen and the first additional member of gens
Polillia:

Tiberius Popillius Iulianus

Please welcome him,

Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:00:24 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote:
> Salvete Cives,
>
> Voting for Quaestor and for two proposed laws has begun. You may
> vote at:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/voting/
>


Salve,

I've just returned from re-reading the two laws up for vote and the
current election laws on the Tabularium. Perhaps I am dense but I
fail to see any significant difference between the current leges and
the proposed legislation. The only thing of significance is
shortening the length of the voting period.

I'm hard pressed to vote in favor of the proposed laws if there is
nothing within them that isn't already on the books since it seems
superifilous to nullify several existing leges and replace them with
two leges that say the same thing just all in one place. As a
republican I am even more ill at ease with shortening the length of
the voting period as I believe that every person should have ample
opportunity to exercise their right to vote. Is 120 hours ample?
Yes. However the current 196 hours is far more ample.

Maybe I am missing something. Do the proposed Cornelian leges have
any advantage and make significant improvement over the various
Vedian leges? This is a question I need answered before I can in
good conscience cast my vote either yea or nay.

Pax,

Quintus Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Temple of Magna Mater
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:57:17 +0200

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnbus S.P.D.

Do you remember the project "Restoring of the Temple of Magna Mater"
proposed by the Cohors Aedilis Caeso Fabius Quintilianus during the
Megalesia Ludi?
Several Provinciae, like Thule, Italia, Lusitania, Germania Inferior, etc.,
and other honorable Magistrates and Istitutions of Nova Roma, like Academia
Thule, have signed a document where every members form an alliance to
further the correct restoration and care for the Temple of Magna Mater in
Rome.
Specially the Cohors Aedilis and Provincia Italia have been engaged to
search informations about the ancient Temple on the Palatine hill and raise
the need founds to restoring the archeological rests.

Now, we are proud to announce the second step of this wonderful project!
In fact Illustrus Marcus Iulius Perusianus, Scriba Provinciae Italiae, have
presented the first report about the Temple. He have gone in Rome at April
21, 2002 and have observed the status of the rests, searched the public
administrators, contacted local archeological associations and made several
photos of the hill.
In a parallel way, the Provincia Italia have published an Edictum
(http://italia.novaroma.org/tabularium/provincia/4en.htm) with it will be
engaged to build a bank count to take the founds.
We have founded other wonderful historical and archeological informations
about the cult of Magna Mater understanding what kind of religious
celebrations were in Ancient Rome.
With this informations we can start the operating step of our project.

So we have updated the website about the Temple of Magna Mater in the Cohors
Aedilis website at
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/templemagnamater.htm
Here you can find the historical news about the Temple, the international
joint declaration and the first report by Marcus Iulius Perusianus
(http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/temple/report1.htm).
Please visit it and partecipe in our project!

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] ahh
From:	"amequitius" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:05:16 -0000

I just tied to post a message to someone, via the website. I took an
hour to write, it han't posted yet. I'm angry. err

Am.Equ.Ger.

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] oops
From:	"amequitius" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:11:22 -0000

Disregard that. he... he... ugh.

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] "Sodalitas Romanae Juventutis" (SRJ)
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:12:55 -0500

Salve C. Fabius,
I have a detailed explaination written about an hour ago, but it was done on the website and must be approved by a moderator of the list. That Latin is wrong. Juventutis is spelled wrong and Romanae Juventutis is in the wrong number. It should be Sodalitas Juventatium Romanarum (or Iuventatium if you want.) Sorry about the delay, hopefully the explaination will be in its way.

Vale,
Amulius Equitius Germanicus
----- Original Message -----
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] "Sodalitas Romanae Juventutis" (SRJ)


Salvete Patres et Conscripti et Quirites!

I got an advice from a friend that "Sodalitas Romanae Juventutis"
(SRJ) would be correct. So that would be my proposal. Honorable
Manius Constantinus Serapio would that meant "The Club for Roman
Youth"? ;-)
--
Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules

The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] "Sodalitas R j" in addition
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:16:38 -0500

In addition, it would mean Society of Roman Youth"..
----- Original Message -----
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] "Sodalitas Romanae Juventutis" (SRJ)


Salvete Patres et Conscripti et Quirites!

I got an advice from a friend that "Sodalitas Romanae Juventutis"
(SRJ) would be correct. So that would be my proposal. Honorable
Manius Constantinus Serapio would that meant "The Club for Roman
Youth"? ;-)
--
Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor of Thule
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules

The Opinions expressed are my own,
and not an official opinion of Nova Roma
************************************************
The homepage of Senior Curule Aedile
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
************************************************
The homepage of the Nova Roma Provincia Thule:
http://thule.novaroma.org/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Do not give in to hate. That leads to the dark side."
************************************************
Caeso, he who also is known as Christer Edling.
************************************************
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] New Feature
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:56:38 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete Cives,

I have added a new feature from the website; you can now update your
own records of userids for various instant messenger systems (AOL,
Yahoo, etc.) You can add and delete these records, which will
display on your personal profile page.

To edit your information, go to:
http://www.novaroma.org/bin/prefs

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] New Feature
From:	Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:25:01 -0500

Salve,
Great new feature. I have a habit of changing IM's alot and this
will let me keep my IM's up to date easier.

Vale,


Sextus Cornelius Cotta

--
Propraetor, America Medioccidentalis Superior
My Blog: http://PropraetorAMS.blogspot.com
AIM:ExPH2
ICQ:29580250

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: "Sodalitas Romanae Iuventutis" (SRI)
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:57:28 -0500

Am. Equtius Germanicus Pro. Postumio Neroni Druso S.P.D.
Contrary to populr belief, Latin, unlik say Spainish, placement for adjectives relative to its noun doesn't matter. As long as the gender, number, and case is the same. This becomes quite clear after translating Classical Latin poetry, such as Virgil. But I do agree Sodalitas Iuventatis Romanae sounds better.
----- Original Message -----
From: pro_postumius
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:25 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: "Sodalitas Romanae Iuventutis" (SRI)


Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus K. Fabio Quintilliano S.P.D.

Salve,

I'd only like to make one change to the proposed title of this youth
union we are working on, and that would be to alter it from Sodalitas
Romanae Iuventutis to Sodalitas Iuventutis Romanae, only because
Latin prefers to put the adjective after the word being described and
I personally think it sounds better that way. But that's just a
suggestion.

Semper Cogitans et Sapiens, ut Cras Meliores Omnes Simus

Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus



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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Question for Latinspeakers
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:04:34 -0500

Am. Equitius Germanicus Gaio Marcio Coriolano S.P.D.
Its not as bad as it seems. If you have the ORIGINAL manuscripts, then you will beable to tell the difference fairly easily. After seeing what the s loos like you can tell the difference. However, trying to translate it off a website that doesn't know what its doing and puts Fs instead of Ss then youll have more trouble.
Ave

but how can I recoginze in this case when 'f' in the middle of the
word means really 'f' ? there must be latin words with f?
(confirmatio ?} I guess that M.V.Limitanus is close to right
explantation.

vale
Gaius Marcius Coriolanus


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Temple of Magna Mater
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:32:45 -0500

Am. Equitius Germanicus Francisco Apulo Caesari S.P.D.

I have looked at the website for the the restoration of the Magna Mater, a wonderful thing indeed! But the only I have seen to seen funds is by mail. Can you set up a PayPal account so that I and others can send money more directly and quickly? Tibi gratias ago.





----- Original Message -----
From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Cc: NR_Italia@yahoogroups.com ; Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Temple of Magna Mater


Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnbus S.P.D.

Do you remember the project "Restoring of the Temple of Magna Mater"
proposed by the Cohors Aedilis Caeso Fabius Quintilianus during the
Megalesia Ludi?
Several Provinciae, like Thule, Italia, Lusitania, Germania Inferior, etc.,
and other honorable Magistrates and Istitutions of Nova Roma, like Academia
Thule, have signed a document where every members form an alliance to
further the correct restoration and care for the Temple of Magna Mater in
Rome.
Specially the Cohors Aedilis and Provincia Italia have been engaged to
search informations about the ancient Temple on the Palatine hill and raise
the need founds to restoring the archeological rests.

Now, we are proud to announce the second step of this wonderful project!
In fact Illustrus Marcus Iulius Perusianus, Scriba Provinciae Italiae, have
presented the first report about the Temple. He have gone in Rome at April
21, 2002 and have observed the status of the rests, searched the public
administrators, contacted local archeological associations and made several
photos of the hill.
In a parallel way, the Provincia Italia have published an Edictum
(http://italia.novaroma.org/tabularium/provincia/4en.htm) with it will be
engaged to build a bank count to take the founds.
We have founded other wonderful historical and archeological informations
about the cult of Magna Mater understanding what kind of religious
celebrations were in Ancient Rome.
With this informations we can start the operating step of our project.

So we have updated the website about the Temple of Magna Mater in the Cohors
Aedilis website at
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/templemagnamater.htm
Here you can find the historical news about the Temple, the international
joint declaration and the first report by Marcus Iulius Perusianus
(http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/temple/report1.htm).
Please visit it and partecipe in our project!

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] What can a kid do in Nova_Roma
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:38:52 +0100 (BST)

Salvete Quirites; et salce, Cato Iunior.

--- a_cato2002 <a.cato@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Salvete: I'm Gallus Tulluis Cato again speeking, I think that the
> kid part of Nova_roma is realy good idea. It will attract kids
> really fast. My friend is thinking of joining because iI told him
> about what might be happening, he thinks it's a good idea for
> Nova_Roma.
> I realy did not think that this would happen after I sent that
> message but making the part for Nova_Roma will be a great
> idea.valet:-D

Those are very good news. Let's hope that both you and your friend
enjoy your activities here in Nova Roma. I think that you can count
with the good intentions of *everyone* here on that respect ;-).

=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Greetings Mike W.
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:44:45 -0500

Avete Mike W. and wife!

I hope you make the decision to join. It is always great to have new citizens to exchange ideas and knowledge with. If you ever have any questions. Just ask! Anyone and everyone is willing to answer your question, and if you post it on the list, everyone WILL answer you question. That is the spirit of the Nova Roma, the respect and care for everyone around them. I hope we can make you feel at home.

Vale,
Amulius Equitius Germanicus
----- Original Message -----
From: LordIanGrey@aol.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Roman E-cards


Salvete,

I am a newcomer to this list. My soon to be wife and I are entertaining the
idea of joining Nova Roma. We have a friend who has been a member for some
time and has said very positive things about the group. We've been watching
the posts to get a feel for the group and are quite delighted with what we've
seen so far. We are in the process of thinking up names for ourselves to
register with and hope to put in our paperwork soon. In the mean time, please
excuse the email address. It was used for a medieval group I was
participating in. I will make a more appropriate one soon.

I wanted to let William know, I went to the web site in question last night
and it loaded fine for me. Not sure what problem is occurring on your end. It
may be coincidental to something other than the site itself. Just wanted
Sextus Apollonius Scipio to know that the site seems to be working for some
and not for others. Also, the site is very nice and the pictures quite
lovely.

Valete,
((Mike W., who does not yet have an appropriate name to use in closing))


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Attention Voters! Invalid voter codes
From:	"Julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:13:25 -0000

The cives with the following voter codes have invalid or malformed
voter codes: #1023 and #2023.

Remember, you can log in to your profile at www.novaroma.org and not
only receive your voter code but update your e-mail, web address and
contact information, and remember to enter your voter code exactly as
given.

If you have trouble doing this, contact censors@novaroma.org for help
with your voter code.

---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
Curatrix Araneae,
America Boreoccidentalis
http://ambor.konoko.net

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] REMINDER: Literary contest (Ludi Apollinares)
From:	"consulromanus" <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:54:54 -0000

Salvete!

TAKE PART IN THIS WONDERFUL LITERARY CONTEST!!!

During the Ludi Apollinares (July 6-13) different
contests will be held (see our website, the address is
at the bottom of this mail).

One of them is a literary contest, where Nova Romans
may compete by writing a text, prose, poetry or drama,
about a Roman-related subject (ancient and Nova Roma).

Here are the rules of this contest:


LITERARY CONTEST

1) This literary contest is organized by aedilis
plebis Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, with the support
of his two assistents and the praetores. The contest
is open to all citizens of Nova Roma. To participate,
one has to write a text (drama, poetry or prose) about
a Roman subject (this covers a very wide range of
possible subjects!).

2) Each participant can participate with just one
work. The contributed work must be in English, with a
maximum of 5 pages (standard A4 format). MS Word
format is preferred.

3) The deadline to send your work is July 5, 2002
(2755 AUC), by e-mail to Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
(consulromanus@y...), and in the subject line
"LC". Don't forget to include your Nova Roma name and
email address!

4) The texts will judged by a jury (from July 6-11)
following this table of judgement:
- language style (linguistic qualities) (10 points)
- content (Roman references) (10 points)
- lay-out of the work (5 points)
- artistic value (very general) (5 points)

5) The jury will be composed as follows:
- Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, aedilis plebis
- Manius Constantinus Serapio,
- Titus Labienus Fortunatus, praetor
- Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, praetrix
- Caeso Fabius Quintilianus, aedilis curulis

6) The participating texts will appear on the Ludi
website. The participants thus grant the copyrights of
their text to the organization accepting this
regulation. This Regulation is accepted by taking part
in the contest.

7) The winner shall be announced on the Main List and
on the website on July 13. He/She will receive a prize
from praetrix Pompeia Cornelia Strabo.

Information:
http://www.geocities.com/mcserapio/aediliscicatrix.html
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix: consulromanus@y...


I really hope to see many participants in this
contest!!



Valete bene

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Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
civis Novae Romae

***HORUM OMNIUM FORTISSIME SUNT BELGAE***

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Greetings Mike W.
From:	LordIanGrey@aol.com
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:09:40 EDT

Gratias, Amulius Equitius Germanicus.

Your welcome was very kind. Our first task is to come up with suitable names.
I've been studying up on Roman naming conventions and we are carefully
sifting through our reference library as part of the process. I noticed on
the Nova Roma Roman Names page that the Nomen "Terentius" was not listed. If
I'm not mistaken, Marcus Terentius Varro was a Roman antiquarian and
philologist about 116-127 BCE. Does this indicate that it is acceptable to
use elements of names if they can be documented. Or are we strictly limited
to what is listed on the Nova Roma page? I read there that citizens are
encouraged to use the listing, but would really like to use some names that
are not shown. Of course we will carefully document what ever we use. Is this
acceptable? Just curious.

Valete,
((Mike - who still does not have a suitable name))

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] nomen mike w.
From:	"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:01:01 -0500

Salve Mike,
You may indeed use any name that is authentic. If you have proof of its existence, show the proof and you can use it. My Praenomen was in fact not in the list. I found it in the records of those killed at Pompeii. Thus, I was able to use Amulius. The nomen is similar to our current last names, it is the family name. If you look though the Album Gentium, you can search for all the "family" names in use. Those with an asterisk are Patrician families. However the nomen Terentia is in fact in use. The paterfamilias is Marcus Terentius Varro, however his Gens is closed. If you want to join an existing family, just look through the nomenes and find one you like. Then, if they are accepting new members to the familia (if it says open), e-mail the familiae paterfamilias and request joining. If they say yes, then place that name in your application. Or, if you find a nomen not in use, you may decide to start your own familia as the paterfamilias.
I hope this was some help.

Bene vale,

Amulius Equitius Germanicus





----- Original Message -----
From: LordIanGrey@aol.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Greetings Mike W.


Gratias, Amulius Equitius Germanicus.

Your welcome was very kind. Our first task is to come up with suitable names.
I've been studying up on Roman naming conventions and we are carefully
sifting through our reference library as part of the process. I noticed on
the Nova Roma Roman Names page that the Nomen "Terentius" was not listed. If
I'm not mistaken, Marcus Terentius Varro was a Roman antiquarian and
philologist about 116-127 BCE. Does this indicate that it is acceptable to
use elements of names if they can be documented. Or are we strictly limited
to what is listed on the Nova Roma page? I read there that citizens are
encouraged to use the listing, but would really like to use some names that
are not shown. Of course we will carefully document what ever we use. Is this
acceptable? Just curious.

Valete,
((Mike - who still does not have a suitable name))

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] nomen mike w.
From:	Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@inwave.com>
Date:	Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:16:23 -0500

Ave Mike sine Nomen Romana

Or...

One an always construct a Romanization of a pre-existing name, like I did. Being a Germanic Heathen
resident in Nova Roma, I wished to continue being known as such, but sought an historic (as best I
could) method of maintaining such identity.

Thus, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
from, Piparskeggr Ullarsson Veithmathur
meaning Pepperbeard son of Uller, a Huntsman

My Pranomen (right term?) is a nickname (Pepperbeard) from when there was more pepper than salt in
my facial hair. It was given me by a Heathen friend, so...

My Gens Nomen pays homage to the Holy One of the North to whom I am closest. Uller, noted for his
affinity with Hunting, Archery and Winter (my favorite season).

My Cognomen suits my vocation and avocation. I run a gun counter in a sporting goods store and help
folks get ready for the hunting and non hunting shooting sports. I teach hunter's safety and and a
shooting range safety officer. Also, I have both an archery and air rifle range in my basement.

YMMV

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In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Civis Nova Romana et Paterfamilias
Legatus Occidentalis pro Magna Lacus

Domus Familias
http://www.geocities.com/gens_ulleria/index.html

Dominus Sodalis
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq/

"Our earth is degenerate in these latter days.
There are signs that the world is speedily coming
to an end. Bribery and corruption are common.
Children no longer obey their parents. Every man
wants to write a book, and the end of the world
evidently is approaching."
- From an Assyrian tablet of about 2800 B.C.E.