| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] cafepress |
| From: |
Evan Sarmiento <evms@cs.bu.edu> |
| Date: |
Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:59:31 -0400 (EDT) |
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Hello.
I'm new to this group. I'm not yet a citizen, but, I applied
to become one. I'd prefer my name to be Evan Claudius Augustus
(It's the name that i use at my school -- I just started
using it as my name on tests and papers and now that's
what I get on my transcript.) but I think that family
was full.
I was wondering if there was any Nova Roma merchandise store,
like, a caferpess type of store? it could probably
generate lots of revenue for the group. If there isnt any
it would be neat to start generating ideas for t-shirts
and the like.
- Evan C. Augustus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Greetings Mike W. |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:34:38 -0000 |
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---Salve Mike:
I am very surprised there are no Terrentiae in the Album Gentilum in
Nova Roma.
If it is the same Marcus Terrentius Varro I am thinking of (and I
thought he lived a bit later than that, the one I am referring to) he
served under G. Pompeius Magnus, wrote several books, and lived to be
the ripe old age of 90, which is a feat in itself for antiquita. An
eloquent writer and a great republican.
If there are not outstanding issues with the Censors regarding the
name, and what I mean by that is, if no one else has applied to
represent Terrentia, why don't you go for it?
Bene vale, and welcome,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetor
In Nova-Roma@y..., LordIanGrey@a... wrote:
> Gratias, Amulius Equitius Germanicus.
>
> Your welcome was very kind. Our first task is to come up with
suitable names.
> I've been studying up on Roman naming conventions and we are
carefully
> sifting through our reference library as part of the process. I
noticed on
> the Nova Roma Roman Names page that the Nomen "Terentius" was not
listed. If
> I'm not mistaken, Marcus Terentius Varro was a Roman antiquarian
and
> philologist about 116-127 BCE. Does this indicate that it is
acceptable to
> use elements of names if they can be documented. Or are we strictly
limited
> to what is listed on the Nova Roma page? I read there that citizens
are
> encouraged to use the listing, but would really like to use some
names that
> are not shown. Of course we will carefully document what ever we
use. Is this
> acceptable? Just curious.
>
> Valete,
> ((Mike - who still does not have a suitable name))
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: cafepress |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:37:43 -0000 |
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---
Salve Evan:
Well, we have tshirts, bumperstickers, artifacts, statues and other
artwork, etc. in the Macellum of Nova Roma.
Please visit the website: www.novaroma.org...click on Nova Roma, and
you will have a menu before you. Click on the Macellum, our
marketplace, and cruise around.
Bene vale et welcome,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetor
In Nova-Roma@y..., Evan Sarmiento <evms@c...> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm new to this group. I'm not yet a citizen, but, I applied
> to become one. I'd prefer my name to be Evan Claudius Augustus
> (It's the name that i use at my school -- I just started
> using it as my name on tests and papers and now that's
> what I get on my transcript.) but I think that family
> was full.
>
> I was wondering if there was any Nova Roma merchandise store,
> like, a caferpess type of store? it could probably
> generate lots of revenue for the group. If there isnt any
> it would be neat to start generating ideas for t-shirts
> and the like.
>
> - Evan C. Augustus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:31:02 -0700 |
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Ave,
There are differences in two major areas:
First, the date of citizenship must be announced when candidates are
posted, this is a check to make certain that candidates meet the length
of citizenship requirement.
Second, the length of voting will be consistent between the Comitia
Centuriata procedures (if passed) and the Comitia Populi. Currently
they are not consistent. For the Comitia Centuriata, currently, we need
192 hours (8 days) of discussion and 192 hours of voting for the Comitia
Populi its 192 hours for discussion and 120 (5 days) to vote. If both
laws pass it will be 120 hours for both Contio and Voting.
Third, the intercessio change has been made to the procedures.
I hope this explains the differences.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul
quintuscassiuscalvus wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@y..., Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote:
>
> > Salvete Cives,
> >
> > Voting for Quaestor and for two proposed laws has begun. You may
> > vote at:
> >
> > http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/voting/
> >
>
>
> Salve,
>
> I've just returned from re-reading the two laws up for vote and the
> current election laws on the Tabularium. Perhaps I am dense but I
> fail to see any significant difference between the current leges and
> the proposed legislation. The only thing of significance is
> shortening the length of the voting period.
>
> I'm hard pressed to vote in favor of the proposed laws if there is
> nothing within them that isn't already on the books since it seems
> superifilous to nullify several existing leges and replace them with
> two leges that say the same thing just all in one place. As a
> republican I am even more ill at ease with shortening the length of
> the voting period as I believe that every person should have ample
> opportunity to exercise their right to vote. Is 120 hours ample?
> Yes. However the current 196 hours is far more ample.
>
> Maybe I am missing something. Do the proposed Cornelian leges have
> any advantage and make significant improvement over the various
> Vedian leges? This is a question I need answered before I can in
> good conscience cast my vote either yea or nay.
>
> Pax,
>
> Quintus Cassius Calvus
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Temple of Magna Mater |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:18:08 +0200 |
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Franciscus Apulus Caesar Am. Equitius Germanicus S.P.D.
> I have looked at the website for the the restoration of the Magna Mater, a
wonderful thing indeed!
Thank you very much for your very kind words.
> But the only I have seen to seen funds is by mail. Can you set up a PayPal
account so that I and others can send money more directly and quickly? Tibi
gratias ago.
As you can read in my previous message, we're starting the work of fund
raising. In this moment we can accept only payments by postal count, check,
etc. not paypal or credit card.
But the Provincia Italia is engaged in the building of an Aerarium with a
bank account. When we'll have it, we'll set up a paypal account to receive
the money. I thing we will able to do it in September.
However, amice, if you want send money now, you have to use other ways, like
postal account.
I'm waiting for other suggestions.
Vale
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
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Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Attention Voters! Invalid voter codes |
| From: |
"Julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:10:34 -0000 |
|
The cives with the voter codes #1052 and #2052 have malformed or
invalid voter codes.
Remember to log in to your profile at www.novaroma.org to obtain your
voter code, or if you have trouble doing this, write
censors@novaroma.org
---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
Curatrix Araneae,
America Boreoccidentalis
http://ambor.konoko.net
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Temple of Isis Now Open |
| From: |
"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:33:02 -0000 |
|
Salvete,
It is my pleasure to announce the opening of the TEMPLVM ISIDIS, a
virtual Roman Isis Temple. This is not an official Nova Roma Temple,
but is in part put up for the enjoyment of the citizens.
You may visit the temple at
http://www.geocities.com/templvmisidis/index.html
Gaius Cassius Nerva
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:55:05 -0000 |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> Ave,
>
> There are differences in two major areas:
>
Salve,
Thank you for pointing out those differences for me. It is a lot of
reading and I missed that. Never thought that the proposed leges
were bad laws just wasn't able to find the differences between them
and the current laws.
Pax,
Quintus Cassius Calvus.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa |
| From: |
Fortunatus <labienus@texas.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:33:33 -0500 |
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Salvete omnes
> First, the date of citizenship must be announced when candidates are
> posted, this is a check to make certain that candidates meet the length
> of citizenship requirement.
This check actually exists in the current lex.
Section II.B of both Lex Vedia de Ratione Comitiorum Populi Tributorum
and Lex Vedia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum states:
"The presiding magistrate shall have the responsibility for taking all
reasonable precautions to ensure that candidates for a vote hold
whatever qualifications are required by law. The Censors shall assist in
such efforts as to the best of their ability."
Since length of citizenship is one of the qualifications required by law
for most any magistracy one could be elected to in the Comitia
Centuriata and Comitia Populi Tributa, the magistrate who calls the
Comitia to order is already responsible for checking it.
> Second, the length of voting will be consistent between the Comitia
> Centuriata procedures (if passed) and the Comitia Populi. Currently
> they are not consistent. For the Comitia Centuriata, currently, we need
> 192 hours (8 days) of discussion and 192 hours of voting for the Comitia
> Populi its 192 hours for discussion and 120 (5 days) to vote. If both
> laws pass it will be 120 hours for both Contio and Voting.
The rationale for the longer discussion period was that the Comitia
Centuriata are for electing the primary magistrates of the Res Publica
and enacting constitutional amendments. These things are quite
important, and therefore deserving of more consideration. Additionally,
it makes calling the Comitia Centuriata slightly more onerous than
calling the tribal comitia, encouraging magistrates to call the tribes
instead for most things. This is historical.
> Third, the intercessio change has been made to the procedures.
The proposed lex for the Comitia Centuriata states, "Intercessio may be
exercised against either the entire election or vote, or against one or
more individual items on the ballot. If there are any items on the
ballot that have not been subjected to intercessio, voting on them shall
proceed normally. The removal of an item from the ballot due to
intercessio shall not prevent that item from being placed upon the
ballot for a different vote at a later time."
This allows a magistrate to intercede against specific items on the
ballot or against the whole vote. This is a good change to the poor
wording of the current lex, which requires a magistrate to either
intercede against the entire vote or not at all. ("The exercise of
intercessio shall cancel the vote or election outright, although another
call with the same items may be made at a later date.")
Unfortunately, this is not reflected in the proposed lex for the Comitia
Populi Tributa, which states, "The exercise of intercessio will remove
an individual item from the vote, but voting on the other items will
still be allowed." By this language, it seems that a magistrate may
only intercede against a single item on the ballot, and not against
multiple items or the whole vote. Now, it is currently allowable for a
magistrate to veto the announcement that calls the comitia together, and
the proposed language is vague enough to be open to interpretation, but
this is still possibly a questionable restriction on our magistrates'
constitutional powers and duties.
Perhaps it would be better to withdraw the proposed lex for the Comitia
Populi Tributa and offer it at a later date with language that matches
the proposed lex for the Comitia Centuriata.
Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
--
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
Ta i quetes Quenyanen séya vanima
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] New file uploaded to Nova-Roma |
| From: |
Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com |
| Date: |
30 Jun 2002 19:05:31 -0000 |
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Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Nova-Roma
group.
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You can access this file at the URL
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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) |
|
The shortening of the voting period address a problem
with admitting new civies. We can't admot new civies
while a Comitia is voting. The reason is to prevent
fraud, to keep someone from requesting citizenship
just to vote, ie I sign up 20 friends as new civies,
friends who have no intrest in NR, just to get a
canidate I favor elected. Our Constitution requires
that my 20 friends be allowed to vote.
Durring a vote allmost all of our civies vote during
the first 48 hours. by the last 72 hours typically
everyone who intends to vote has allready done so, and
the new civies wait three days longer while nobody
votes.
It really causes a lot of problems in a month when
multiple votes occur such as when there are runoffs.
The Censors are left with narrow windows of opertunity
for admitting new citizens.
The repeal of the Old leges and replacing them with a
single lex means that a citizen who is intrested in
our election laws only has to look at a single place,
rather than reading through several laws to see what
provisions are in effect and which provisions were
repealed by a later lex. This has caused some
confussion in the past, and the new leges remove the
source of confussion, and make life easier for
everyone except for forum lawyers who wish to amaze
other citizens with their knowledge of Nova Roma's
election laws.
L. Sicinius Drusus
--- quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> I've just returned from re-reading the two laws up
> for vote and the
> current election laws on the Tabularium. Perhaps I
> am dense but I
> fail to see any significant difference between the
> current leges and
> the proposed legislation. The only thing of
> significance is
> shortening the length of the voting period.
>
> I'm hard pressed to vote in favor of the proposed
> laws if there is
> nothing within them that isn't already on the books
> since it seems
> superifilous to nullify several existing leges and
> replace them with
> two leges that say the same thing just all in one
> place. As a
> republican I am even more ill at ease with
> shortening the length of
> the voting period as I believe that every person
> should have ample
> opportunity to exercise their right to vote. Is 120
> hours ample?
> Yes. However the current 196 hours is far more
> ample.
>
> Maybe I am missing something. Do the proposed
> Cornelian leges have
> any advantage and make significant improvement over
> the various
> Vedian leges? This is a question I need answered
> before I can in
> good conscience cast my vote either yea or nay.
>
> Pax,
>
> Quintus Cassius Calvus
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: AR war game |
| From: |
Caius Minucius Scaevola <pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:42:02 -0400 |
|
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:05:24PM -0000, mcserapio wrote:
> AVE CAI MINVCI SCAEVOLA
Ave, Manius Constantinus Serapio -
My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, but I've been away from
the list (changing ISPs, etc.)
> Thank you for your message! But the link is unavailable. Is it
> correct?
>
> (available from <http://sources.redhat.com/pub/xconq/>)
Seems that Redhat has just changed it slightly; it _was_ active at the
time I wrote the original. Please try <http://sources.redhat.com/xconq/>.
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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