| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] New Roman Video Game |
| From: |
StarVVreck@aol.com |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:33:06 EDT |
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Salvete!
There's a new Roman video game out called "Legion." Its the first video game
created by Slitherine Software. The concept of the game is that your a Roman
leader of some type who controls your cities economies in order to produce
food, minerals, and wood so that you may create armies. Then you use your
armies to conquer more cities, allowing you to create more armies and conquer
even more cities. There are 5 levels in all, Latium (very early Rome, you
have to conquer the province Rome is in), Britain, Scotland, Gaul, and Italy.
Its not exactly one of the most advanced or even a very in-depth games out
there, the minimum system requirements are 233MHz PentiumMMX (Not even a
Pentium 2!) 64MB of RAM, 250MB free disk-space, and a 2mb video card. While
this leads to a not very advanced, or frankly interesting game over-all it
means that almost anyone should be able to play it on their computer. And
actually, its fairly fun considering that it only took 4 people to create it.
Right now its around $45 at Best Buy's, but I suggest that anyone planning
to buy it wait a little while because its definitely not worth that much. In
a couple months the $10 you pay for it will be much more worthwhile.
Valete,
Iulius Titinius Antonius
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Greetings Mike W. |
| From: |
LordIanGrey@aol.com |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:12:56 EDT |
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Salve,
Thank you, to those who replied with very helpful advice. After many days
of searching and pondering. I believe I have found a combination that will
work quite well for my purposes and those of my wife (who is also planning on
joining, too). I've come up with the following and all the elements seem to
fit with the naming conventions as I understand them:
Marcus Varius Pullus Maximus
My wife would take:
Flaminia Varia (her father being of the gens Flaminius after the
family of Caius Flaminius Nepote, Consul of Rome, 223 BCE - <A HREF="http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/flaminius.htm">Flaminius</A> - and
use the feminine form of my Nomen).
I think this will work and would be well suited for the two of us. I did a
search on the gens Varius and it does not appear to be in use. Our next step
is to work on our background information. We have some intial ideas sketched
out and we're having a very good time looking up our references. Thank you,
once again, for the advice. I hope it will only be a short while until I have
the names registered and can made a suitable email address that will work
better for the list.
Bene vale,
(still temporarily, Mike)
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa |
| From: |
"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:35:20 -0500 |
|
L. Sicinio Druso salutem dicit Am. Equitius Germanicus
Si vales, gaudeo. Ego valeo recte. To help solve the problem with people joining and voting without knowledge or out of no interest in their own, could we not have a section of the lex require a civis to be a citizen for a period of time before allowing them to vote?
DI TE INCOLVMEM CVSTODIANT
CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE
-------------------------------------------
Salus populi suprema est lex.
The welfare of the people is
the supreme law.
-------------------------------------------
We can't admot new civies while a Comitia is voting.
The reason is to prevent fraud, to keep someone
om requesting citizenship just to vote, ie I sign
up 20 friends as new civies, friends who have no
intrest in NR, just to get a canidate I favor
elected. Our Constitution requires
that my 20 friends be allowed to vote.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Summoning of Comitia Populi Tributa |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:08:23 -0700 |
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Ave Am. Equitius et Omnes,
We cannot do that, as this would be unconstitutional. According to II.
B 3 the Constitution states: "The right to vote in elections as members
of their various comitia on matters brought before the People in such
manner as described in this Constitution." So any such qualification
that would limit any citizens right to vote in the Comitia would not be
legal. I hope this answers your inquiry.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Andrew Behm wrote:
> L. Sicinio Druso salutem dicit Am. Equitius Germanicus
> Si vales, gaudeo. Ego valeo recte. To help solve the problem
> with people joining and voting without knowledge or out of no interest
> in their own, could we not have a section of the lex require a civis
> to be a citizen for a period of time before allowing them to vote?
> DI TE INCOLVMEM CVSTODIANT
>
>
>
> CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Salus populi suprema est lex.
>
> The welfare of the people is
> the supreme law.
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> We can't admot new civies while a Comitia is voting.
> The reason is to prevent fraud, to keep someone
> om requesting citizenship just to vote, ie I sign
> up 20 friends as new civies, friends who have no
> intrest in NR, just to get a canidate I favor
> elected. Our Constitution requires
> that my 20 friends be allowed to vote.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: New Roman Video Game |
| From: |
"pjane64" <pcassia@novaroma.org> |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 11:43:49 -0000 |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., StarVVreck@a... wrote:
> almost anyone should be able to play it on their computer.
Unfortunately, there must have been a bad batch of CDs or
something. Cassius has an up-to-date PC but has bought
"Legion," returned it because it failed to run, brought home a
new disk and that failed too.
I'm not much help to him - I have a Mac!
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Attention Voters! Invalid voter codes |
| From: |
"Julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 15:35:08 -0000 |
|
The voters with the voter tracking numbers #1069 and #2069 have
malformed or invalid voter codes.
Remember to obtain your proper voting code by logging in to your
profile at www.novaroma.org and do remember to vote! It's one of the
great priviledges of citizenship.
If you have questions or need help, write censors@novaroma.org.
---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
Curatrix Araneae,
America Boreoccidentalis
http://ambor.konoko.net
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: AR war game |
| From: |
Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br> |
| Date: |
01 Jul 2002 13:32:28 -0300 |
|
Em Dom, 2002-06-30 às 18:42, Caius Minucius Scaevola escreveu:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:05:24PM -0000, mcserapio wrote:
> > AVE CAI MINVCI SCAEVOLA
>
> Ave, Manius Constantinus Serapio -
>
> My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, but I've been away from
> the list (changing ISPs, etc.)
>
> > Thank you for your message! But the link is unavailable. Is it
> > correct?
> >
> > (available from <http://sources.redhat.com/pub/xconq/>)
>
> Seems that Redhat has just changed it slightly; it _was_ active at the
> time I wrote the original. Please try <http://sources.redhat.com/xconq/>.
Under debian:
apt-get install xconq
and play
Manius Villius Limitanus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: latin reading |
| From: |
"gaius galerius viator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:08:25 +0000 |
|
Salvete Sodales
I don't know why everybody keeps saying that there is a controversy
about the "c" and "v" sounds. There is no controversy. That question has
been settled by modern scholars; "c" is always hard, and "v" always
pronounced as w. We could go into it if some wish to do so, but I'll leave
it at that for now.
Before I go on, I must say salve Apici Fauni Comissator. It is a
pleasure to hear you say anything, wether I agree or not, and I'll look
forward to hearing your comments.
Some have been wondering about how come romance languages use "caballus"
and not "equus". Incidently, in Iberia there is "egua" and "yegua".
Well, the Romance languages sprang from Vulgar Latin. That's the
language spoken by common folks, and common people don't care for the
embellishment of rhetoric or for the subtle gradations of meanings. So if
there were 2 or more words for the same object, they chose the one that
sounded nicer to their ears, and that was that. And there are the cases
where some region chose one, and another region another. In our own culture
people say "cool" and "great" for convenient, comfortable, pleasant, kind,
wonderful, beautiful..etc, and beautiful is a good example: In Iberia they
chose "formosus" (Span. hermoso, Por.formoso), but in Italy and france it
was "bellus"(Ita. bello, Fr. bel), and the other words for beautiful were
forgotten in the pages of ancient grammar books. Another feature to consider
is that Vulgar Latin had a tendency towards regularity. 1st and 2nd
declensions were preffered, and so verbs with regular conjugation instead of
the more complicated ones.
As to the question of Logudorese, a Sardinian dialect. Some scholars do
indeed think it to be the closest to Latin. One of the reasons is that it
doesn't have a pre-roman substratum as elsewhere, on account of Tiberius
Gracchus who decimated the whole population during the Punic wars. The
other reason is that it had less contact with Italian. However, it did
(Sardinia) with Catalan and Spanish from the 14th til the 18th century.
The oldest Logudorese document (housed in a Pisa museum, I think) is an
11th century manuscript that shows a series of Latin words in a Romance word
order. I could get a transcription, for those interested, and I'd post it
out.
I don't know if Logudorese is closer to Latin or not. I've never heard
it spoken. I'll let higher authorities settle that question.
A final note about Logudorese. Dante didn't like it. He said, and with
all due respect to our friends in Italy, that they, the Sardinians, "imitate
latin as monkeys imitate men".
As to a lexican and grammar of Vulgar Latin of the late Republic; one
suggestion is a book on the graffiti found on the walls of Pompeii. They
number in the thousands. They have, supposedly, many of the features found
in Romance languages such as the constant use of prepositions, and of
special interest the absence of "m" for the accusative.
These are facts that, I am sure, many Novaromani know and Know in depth.
But I wrote for the benefit of those who don't, and I welcome any contrary
opinion.
Valete omnes
Gaius Galerius Viator.
>From: Pan144@aol.com
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: latin reading + a history lesson
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:48:54 EDT
>
>Avete, omnes!
> I would like to make a few comments on what the esteemed Gaius
>Galerius Viator has said about Italian being closest to Latin
>pronunciation.
> We should be very careful about making such assumptions. To begin
>with, there's the very important issue of vowel sounds. Classical Latin
>(from
>the Republic to the early Empire at least) made important distinctions
>between long and short vowels just as we do in English. For example, the
>long
>"u" sound in boot compared to the short sound in but. Italian makes no such
>differentiation, but Latin did with all the vowel sounds.
> As for consonants, there's the ongoing raging argument about
>whether
>the "c" was always pronounced hard like a "k" or could opt for the "ch"
>sound
>depending on the following vowel. And then there's the case of the "v." Was
>it pronounced like a "w" or was it, in fact, pronounced as we pronounce
>"v"?
> I don't honestly know if Italian necessarily puts us closer to
>Latin
>pronunciation than Spanish or any other language, for that matter. I've
>heard
>on several occasions, however, that Lugudorense, a dialect spoken on
>Sardinia, is the closest living language to Latin. That's the claim I've
>heard made. Has anybody else heard that?
> On another note, what has always fascinated me is Latin vocabulary.
>If
>caput is the word we've all learned for "head," why is it that Italian has
>testa and French has tête and not something like the Spanish and Portuguese
>cabeza, which shows an obvious connection to caput? If equus is "horse,"
>why
>do caballo, cheval, cavalo, and cavallo appear in 4 of the 5 Romance
>languages instead of a variation of equus? Without doubt, there must be
>hundreds and hundreds of examples like these.
> I've always wondered if anybody has ever come up with a grammar and
>lexicon for colloquial Latin as it was spoken by the everyday Roman during,
>let's say, the latter part of the Republic. I'd love to know how close that
>was to so-called Classical Latin we know in the literature of the time. How
>similar or dissimilar were the two? I, for one, have never been able to
>find
>a text that answers these questions.
> One final note: Has anybody heard of Luigi Miraglia and all the
>work
>he's been doing in Italy to promote the use of Latin as a living, spoken
>language? There was a fascinating article about him and his organization in
>the September 17, 2001 issue of The New Yorker, pp. 107-117. I've been in
>contact with him once. He's a very interesting man with some very
>interesting
>ideas and plans.
> Well then, I've finally come to the end of my message. Salutationes
>to
>all of you!
> Apicius Faunius Comissator
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Why are we voting on a forbiden day? |
| From: |
"Andrew Behm" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:03:06 -0500 |
|
Aliquibus et omnibus iram dicit Am. Equitius Germanicus
Why are we having voting days on a forbidden days? The days of Quinctilius I - IV are all labeled as "Dies Nefastus", as done by the Pontiffs. Did I miss something?!
CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE
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Salus populi suprema est lex.
The welfare of the people is
the supreme law.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Why are we voting on a forbiden day? |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:09:33 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salve Amuli Equiti,
> Why are we having voting days on a forbidden days? The days of
> Quinctilius I - IV are all labeled as "Dies Nefastus", as done by the
> Pontiffs. Did I miss something?!
This is sometimes necessary, due to the long voting periods our current
law requires. The proposals up for vote now will reduce those from
eight days to five, making it easier to schedule votes.
Voting always starts on a dies comitalis, and there are usually a
long stretch of dies comitales at the beginning of the voting
period.
Voting during the dies nefasti could be considered impious, so I
suggest that you vote during the dies comitales instead.
Vale, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Why are we voting on a forbiden day? |
| From: |
"Am. Equitius Germanicus" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:15:44 -0500 |
|
Marcus Octavius Germanicus salutem multam dicit Amulius Equitius Germanicus
Si vales, gaudeo. Ego valeo recte. Understood. I have as well already done what you have suggested. Thank you for clarifying.
DI TE INCOLVMEM CVSTODIANT
CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE
-------------------------------------------
Salus populi suprema est lex.
The welfare of the people is
the supreme law.
-------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus
To: Nova Roma
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Why are we voting on a forbiden day?
Salve Amuli Equiti,
> Why are we having voting days on a forbidden days? The days of
> Quinctilius I - IV are all labeled as "Dies Nefastus", as done by the
> Pontiffs. Did I miss something?!
This is sometimes necessary, due to the long voting periods our current
law requires. The proposals up for vote now will reduce those from
eight days to five, making it easier to schedule votes.
Voting always starts on a dies comitalis, and there are usually a
long stretch of dies comitales at the beginning of the voting
period.
Voting during the dies nefasti could be considered impious, so I
suggest that you vote during the dies comitales instead.
Vale, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] EDICT: Creation of a S.I.R. committee and charter |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:41:42 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Kal. QVINCTILIAS MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Senator Caeso Fabius Quintilianus is hereby appointed to lead an
exploratory committee that will create and present to the Senate
a proposed charter for a "Sodalitas Iuventutis Romanae", a
Sodalitas for young people.
Senator C. Fabius may appoint any volunteers of his choosing to
assist in creating this proposed Sodalitas.
This organization, whether eventually known as "Sodalitas Iuventutis
Romanae" or by some other name, will have the status of an official
Sodalitas only after the Senate has voted to accept the proposed charter.
M. Octavius Germanicus, Consul.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Submitted request to become a citizen |
| From: |
"mikesaraw" <MVariusPM@aol.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 22:24:51 -0000 |
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Salve,
I am very pleased to announce I submitted my request for membership
as a Citizen today. I am anxiously waiting to hear if my name will be
accepted. Until I know otherwise, I can now use: Marcus Varius Pullus
(the Maximus having to wait until I've earned it, of course). I've
also set up my new email screen name to use for Nova Roma
(MVariusPM@aol.com) and (obviously) have subscribed to the list.
I can hardly wait to participate in discussing topics like period
recipes, clothing, military strategy and tactics, and learn more
about the issues that Citizens need to vote on. I noticed in one of
the other threads that there was discussion about new members voting
on issues they are not familiar with because they haven't been
participating long enough to clearly understand the nuances. I can
certainly recognize the problems inherent in this situation and don't
really have any good solutions. But, I am more than willing to listen
to more learned members discussion on the subjects in question.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting involved and am continuing
to enjoy the posts on the list.
Valete,
M. Varius
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] New Roman Video Game |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 16:32:51 -0700 |
|
Yeah that company (Paradox) makes my favorite pc games (Europa
Universalis and Europa Universalis II). I have gone to their website
(www.europa-universalis.com) and am a regular poster there. They are
coming out with a few new games, Hearts of Iron (a WWII game), Crusader
Kings (covering from 1066-1453).
Overall I have heard lukewarm reviews about Legions, but soon an patch
will be released that should fix many of the problems that individuals
seem to be having. Check that website often for updates and patches.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
StarVVreck@aol.com wrote:
> Salvete!
>
> There's a new Roman video game out called "Legion." Its the first
> video game
> created by Slitherine Software. The concept of the game is that your
> a Roman
> leader of some type who controls your cities economies in order to
> produce
> food, minerals, and wood so that you may create armies. Then you use
> your
> armies to conquer more cities, allowing you to create more armies and
> conquer
> even more cities. There are 5 levels in all, Latium (very early Rome,
> you
> have to conquer the province Rome is in), Britain, Scotland, Gaul, and
> Italy.
>
> Its not exactly one of the most advanced or even a very in-depth games
> out
> there, the minimum system requirements are 233MHz PentiumMMX (Not even
> a
> Pentium 2!) 64MB of RAM, 250MB free disk-space, and a 2mb video card.
> While
> this leads to a not very advanced, or frankly interesting game
> over-all it
> means that almost anyone should be able to play it on their computer.
> And
> actually, its fairly fun considering that it only took 4 people to
> create it.
> Right now its around $45 at Best Buy's, but I suggest that anyone
> planning
> to buy it wait a little while because its definitely not worth that
> much. In
> a couple months the $10 you pay for it will be much more worthwhile.
>
> Valete,
>
> Iulius Titinius Antonius
>
>
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>
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