| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Changing Gens |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Fri, 05 Jul 2002 17:19:13 -0700 |
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Ave,
Yes that is the traditional way.
Please feel free to view the Censor handbook at
http://home.earthlink.net/~alexious it has a good summary including how to
change gentes.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul
"Christopher L. Wood" wrote:
> The traditional Roman way would have been to be adopted by a member of that
> gens...
> Would that work in Nova Roma?
>
> Ti. Ambrosius Silvus
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pompeia_cornelia [mailto:trog99@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 04 July, 2002 21:05
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Changing Gens
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Greg Guy" <warhammerpriest@h...> wrote:
> > > Ave,
> > >
> > > I am wondering if anyone has any knowledge of what one would have
> > to do to
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] new Quaestor |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:26:59 +0100 (BST) |
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Salve Iane Minici Sparse!
Many congratulations on your election as quaestor!! As
our friend Manius Constatninus Serapio said, I am sure
you will do a great job assisting me! Welcome aboard!
;-)
--- mcserapio <mcserapio@yahoo.it> wrote: > AVE IANE
MINICI SPARSE
>
> My congratulations on your appointment!!! I am
> sure that you will
> do an excellent job as Quaestor assigned to Aedilis
> Plaebis Tiberius
> Apollonius Cicatrix! :)
>
> VALE BENE
> MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Vale bene
=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
civis Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] OPENING LUDI APOLLINARES |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:34:39 +0100 (BST) |
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!!!!!!!!!! LUDI APOLLINARES !!!!!!!!!!
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix ompnibus S.P.D.
Today, July 6, marks the opening of the Ludi
Apollinares, for the first time in Nova Roma!
All information is also available on our website:
http://www.geocities.com/mcserapio/aediliscicatrix.html
These Ludi are organised by:
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix – aedilis plebes
Manius Constantinus Serapio
Ianus Minicius Sparsus
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo – praetrix
Titus Labienus Fortunatus – praetor
I am proud to announce some wonderful events /
contests for the next days:
* Literary contest – in honour of Apollo and the
Muses! (contact Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix)
* Venationes – pick your fighter and battle against
the beasts! (contact Manius Constantinus Serapio)
* Rhetorics contest – show us your eloquence! (contact
Ianus Minicius Sparsus)
* Roman authors – some postings about famous Roman
authors, for your pleasure!
Some historical information on the Ludi Apollinares:
During a particularly bad year in the Punic Wars (212
BCE), the Romans consulted the Sibylline Books and
were advised to hold Games in honor of the Greek god,
Apollo. The gods must have been pleased because four
years later when a plague broke out, they decided to
make the Ludi Apollinares permanent. Over the course
of the next two centuries the Romans extended the
length of the games until they came to last eight
days. The principal sacrifice was always on the 13th
of July. Two days of the festival were devoted to
games in the Circus, the rest to theater productions.
The first celebration of the Games was quite an
affair. The treasury of Rome paid for an ox and cow
and two white she-goats. They gilded the horns of all
the animals. The decemviri sacris faciundis took care
that the details of the Greek ritual were properly
fulfilled. The audience, all of whom wore garlands,
included married women, who offered prayers to Apollo.
It seems that part of the celebration included a feast
celebrated in front of the family house with the doors
left open. Despite the often complained of July heat,
these ludi were popular and on occasion, the site of
political protest by ordinary citizens. Cicero regards
with grim delight that in a theatrical performance of
a play which included the line, "It's our misfortune
that you are great," the audience infered a reference
to Pompey the Great and applauded like mad. One
attraction of these games (as well as the Ludi Romani
and Ludi Plebeii) was the mercatus (market or fair)
held for six days following the conclusion of the
games. Because July was the time to harvest barley and
beans, farmers who lived outside the city could come
to Rome for the ludi, sell their goods at the mercatus
and in some years, attend the Test of the Roman
Equites held on July 15.
ENJOY THE LUDI APOLLINARES!!!
All information on the website:
http://www.geocities.com/mcserapio/aediliscicatrix.html
Valete bene
=====
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Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
civis Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Literary contest Ludi Apollinares |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:48:39 +0100 (BST) |
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Salvete!
The Literary contest of the Ludi APollinares is now
closed for new contributions. The jury will now decide
the winner, and this winner will be announced on July
12th. All works will be presented before the citizens
on July 11th.
Thanks to all who have participated!
May the best win!
Valete bene
=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
civis Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] VENATIONES START!!! |
| From: |
"mcserapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Sat, 06 Jul 2002 10:11:27 -0000 |
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AVETE QVIRITES
The first combat is getting near!!!
Today, the first day of the Ludi Apollinares, we publish the calendar
for the Venationes:
7th july:
-Baccibus str36/res34 VS Bear str32/res15
-Invictus str45/res35 VS Panther str32/res39
-Mageri str40/res30 VS Rhinoceros str44/res32
8th july:
-Afer str38/res42 VS Bear str16/res40
-Crispinus str30/res30 VS Bull str20/res25
9th july:
-Aquila str39/res40 VS Elephant str10/res58
-Tingis str39/res41 VS Bear str19/res25
10th july:
-Aurum str35/res35 VS Buffalo str30/res18
-Dania str32/res38 VS Hippopotamus str25/res24
11th july
-Serpeniius str33/res27 VS Lion str35/res34
-Aquinca str38/res32 VS Buffalo str22/res26
12th july
-Victor str43/res47 VS Rhinoceros str40/res39
-Hilarinusstr34/res36 VS Tiger str37/res29
13th july:
-Romanus str29/res21 VS Bear str25/res25
-Mamertinus str36/res44 VS Buffalo str20/res21
-Licentiosus str39/res31 VS Bull str28/res31
-Iaculator str44/res36 VS Elephant str11/res50
-Callimorius str28/res24 VS Bear str21/res40
-Purpureus str36/res44 VS Hippopotamus str12/res30
-Astacius str31/res29 VS Bear str14/res38
-Astivus str30/res30 VS Hippopotamus str10/res29
-Entinus str29/res31 VS Buffalo str28/res20
You can also find your animal on the web site of the Ludi
Apollinares
http://www.geocities.com/mcserapio/aediliscicatrix.html
The excellent reports of the 22s combats of the first novaroman
Venationes will be written by the Optima Praetrix Pompeia Cornelia
Strabo!!!
So, tomorrow the play will start!!!!
Enjoy yourself!!!!
VALETE BENE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] PROPOSED LEX: Patresfamilas to have email addresses |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:02:34 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salvete Quirites,
Here is one of several issues that I would like to present to the
Comitia this month.
The proposed LEX OCTAVIA DE PRIVATUS REBUS:
The Lex Cornelia de Privatus Rebus is hereby amended to include
the following:
Patresfamilias and Matresfamilias shall have access to the
email addresses of all members of their gentes and applicants to
their gentes. They may obtain this information from the
web site, when a tool for viewing this is available, or from
the Censores.
This will be beneficial in two areas.
Applicants to the gens sometimes fail to respond to the a
paterfamilias's initial request for more information. Unless
the PF keeps the initial notification letter, that prospective
citizen might never be contacted again, and might never be
approved for citizenship.
Secondly, after a citizen has been approved and joined a gens,
the avenues of communication might be accidentally lost. That
citizen might change address on the web site, but forget to
inform the gens; he might unsubscribe from the gens mailing
list. Any contact information the PF has saved might be
obsolete.
When this law passes, I would modify the "edit gens" page that
every paterfamilias or materfamilias already has access to,
so that it includes the email addresses of every current gens
member or applicant. This will eliminate the need for
patresfamilias to keep their own lists of addresses - and
reduce the danger that those lists will be obsolete.
Valete, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] PROPOSED LEX: Setting the number of Centuries |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:08:58 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salvete Quirites,
In May, we passed the Lex Octavia de Centuriata, which would amend
the Constitution to allow for fewer than 193 centuries:
2. There shall exist a number of centuries, said number to be
set by law enacted by the Comitia Centuriata and not to exceed
one hundred ninety three, into which the censors shall divide
all of the citizens....
It refers to a law that would be passed later by the Comitia Centuriata
that would determine what the exact number of centuries should be.
Now, I present to you a proposed law that will fulfill this
requirement:
The proposed LEX SECUNDA OCTAVIA DE CENTURIATA:
This Lex is hereby enacted to set the number of centuries as required
by Paragraph II.E.2 of the Constitution of Nova Roma, as amended
by the Lex Octavia de Centuriata. In the event that the amendment does
not pass, this lex shall be ineffective.
[ note: the amendment is still awaiting ratification by the Senate,
which will vote on it this month ]
I. The number of centuries shall be determined by dividing the number
of Assidui citizens by eight, rounding down. This calculation shall take
place every time that a reallocation of centuries is performed by the
Censores. If this calculation results in a number greater than 193, then
there shall be only 193 centuries. If this calculation results in a
number less than 51, there shall be exactly 51 centuries.
II. The Censores may determine the number of centuries in each class
by edict, as previously established by the Lex Iunia Centuriata. If
the Censores choose not to do so, then the same proportions already
in effect from the previous allocation shall be adhered to as
closely as possible, in order to preserve the relative sizes of
the classes. For purposes of this calculation, the century
containing the Capite Censi shall be considered outside of
any class.
Now, I'd like to provide an example of the reallocation.
Currently there are 424 Assidui: 171 paid members and 253 new citizens
(exempt from payment until next year).
424 divided by eight is 53; there will be 53 centuries.
We now calculate the relative class sizes:
Class OLD NEW find rel. sz. apply relative size
I 55 15 55/192=.286 .286*52=14.87
II 47 13 47/192=.245 .245*52=12.72
III 39 10 39/192=.203 .203*52=10.56
IV 30 8 30/192=.156 .156*52=8.12
V 21 6 21/192=.109 .109*52=5.6
cap cen 1 1
totals 193 53
(Class III had to be rounded down instead of up in this example to make
the total come out to 53; it would have been 54 due to accumulated
rounding errors otherwise).
This calculation would be automatic, and would be done in this
manner only if the Censores choose not to publish an edict
establishing the century sizes.
In November, just prior to the annual elections, we'd do the
calculation again. We will have many more citizens then - and
all the new citizens are considered Assidui.
171 paid members
253 joined in 7 months (dec-june)
180 predicted to join before December (5/7 * 253).
604 total Assidui; will give us 75 centuries for December.
With this new plan, every century will be larger than it was before,
thus ensuring that it will have multiple votes (which our system needs
to work properly; remember the difficulty we had electing a Praetor
in January).
I ask you to approve this lex, so that we can finally have multiple
votes coming in from each and every century, and a smooth election
in the Comitia Centuriata.
Valete, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Citizenship approved! |
| From: |
MVariusPM@aol.com |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:06:03 EDT |
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Salve,
It is with great pleasure I announce the approval of my application to
become a Citizen! I just got my email from the Censors this morning. I am so
excited and pleased (not to mention the fact it didn't take very long, at
all)! I am very happy to be participating in this group and am already
enjoying myself immensely. Thank you, for having me as a member.
Valate,
Marcus Varius Pullus
(who is now official!)
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Re: latin reading + a history lesson |
| From: |
"Cl. Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:16:32 -0500 |
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>On another note, what has always fascinated me is Latin vocabulary. If
>caput is the word we've all learned for "head," why is it that Italian
>has testa and French has tête and not something like the Spanish and
> Portuguese cabeza, which shows an obvious connection to caput? If >equus
is "horse," why
>do caballo, cheval, cavalo, and cavallo appear in 4 of the 5 Romance
>languages instead of a variation of equus? Without doubt, there must be
>hundreds and hundreds of examples like these.
TESTA: It is a kind of humoristic metaphor originally. <testa> means
originally 'ceramic flower-pot' and it is used by analogy to refer a 'skull'
from this metaphoric use it is extended to 'head'
CABALLUS is a horse for work, in oppisiton to <equus> a horse for war or
militrary purposes. It is evident that ruralization of everyday life in
later empire made some specific domestic terms such as <caballus> the
general term, subtituin words like <equus>
Do yo ask if there are more examples ... of course:
<ignis> 'fire' (the general term) is substituted by a domesctic term <focus>
'cooking-range, grill'.
<pugna> 'battle' (the general term) is substituted by <battualia> 'militar
manoeuvre'
Also there are two famous metonymy:
(a) <ficatus iecur> 'liver with figs' was one the most popular culinary
specialities of late empire and usually was currently named <ficatus> by
this reason Romanic Languages have terms like French <foie> 'liver', Italian
<fecato> 'liver'? Spanish <hígado> 'liver' all of these reflexes of the word
<ficatus> 'with figs' not of the original term <iecur> 'liver'.
(b) <caseus formaticus> 'moldeable cheese' denotes a special type of cheese
so popular that the usual word for cheese in most Romanic languages is
derived from the abbreviated form <formaticus> that gives French <fromage>,
Italian <formaggio> and Catana <formatge>. The Spanish word <queso> and the
english word <cheese> derive from late Latin <kesu>.
Metonymy: the use of a part word of a particular expression for designate
the general term is one of the major responsible of lexical change in all
languages.
A final exemple: when one pay to his/her creditors, the debtors become in
pace, from this fact we have the expresion <pacare creditores> 'to pacify
creditors' this is te origin of the word to pay, from French payer from late
Latin <paiare> or <pagare> both prom <pacare> 'to pacify'.
Cl. Salix Davianus
=====================
Tribunus Plebis Novae Romae
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Hispania annual provincial gathering |
| From: |
"laietanus" <aiax@inicia.es> |
| Date: |
Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:24:52 -0000 |
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L.MINICIVS LAIETANVS CIVIBVS OMNIBVS NOVAROMAE S.P.D.
Ex Oficio Propraetoris Hispaniae
Los ciudadanos de Hispania han sido ya convocados a la próxima
reunión provincial que este año tendrá lugar en la ciudad de
Augusta Emerita durante los días 20 y 21 de Julio, de acuerdo con
lo
dispuesto por la Curia Hispanica y recogido en el EDICTVM DE
CONSENSV
CVRIAE HISPANIAE publicado en esta lista. Desde aquí quiero hacer
extensiva la convocatoria a todos los ciudadanos de Novaroma y, en
especial, a nuestros hermanos y vecinos de Lusitania. Si algún
ciudadano está interesado en acudir a Emerita puede ponerse en
contacto conmigo, (laietanus@yahoo.com)o con nuestro Legatus Externis
Gnaeus Salix Astur (salixastur@yahoo.es)
Encontrareis más información sobre el encuentro provincial en:
NVNC EST BIBENDVM! - EMERITA 2002
http://www.geocities.com/aiaxes/merida1.htm
***********************************
All the citizens of Hispania have been called to join our annual
provincial meeting, which will take place in the city of Augusta
Emerita (Merida, Spain) during the 20th and the 21st of July according
to the decision of the Curia Hispanica published in the EDICTVM DE
CONSENSV CVRIAE HISPANICAE issued through this main list. I want to
make esxtensive this invitation to every citizen od Nova Roma, very
especially to our neighbours and friends from Lusitania. If any of you
is interested in attending the meeting please contact me
(laietanus@yahoo.com) or my Legatus Externis Gnaeus Salix Astur
(salixastur@yahoo.es) for assistance.
You'll find more detailed information (only in Spanish, I'm afraid) at
the following site:
NVNC EST BIBENDVM! - EMERITA 2002
http://www.geocities.com/aiaxes/merida1.htm
Vale
Lucius Minicius Laietanus
Propraetor Hispaniae
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