Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Market Day July 9th
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:22:30 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete Omnes,

Today, July 9th, is a Market Day, where we have semi-regular
scheduled chat on the NovaRoma.org web site. You may join the
chat session at:

http://www.novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat

Future market days can be found on our shared calendar at:

http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cal

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Cognoma
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Decimus=20Iunius=20Silanus?= <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:58:37 +0100 (BST)

Salvete,

Does anyone know of a resource or link that defines
different cognoma? Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Venationes, 3rd day - comments
From:	Manius Constantinus Serapio <mcserapio@yahoo.it>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 04:48:52 -0700 (PDT)

AVETE QVIRITES

I am simply shocked!!!
Patricia Cassia, do you know how long did it take to
me to train that elephant????
And your she-colossus annihilated my dear pachyderm!!!
:(

Ok, I admit it: my congratulation to you, Patricia
Cassia, and to your brawny friend, venatrix Aquila!

Well, well... I must recognize that our bears are not
so lucky... it is already the third one which
succumbs. For next Ludi Venatorii we will catch some
stronger bruin...
Anyway, well done Tiberius Annaeus Otho: you chose the
right fighter and put him in the right Ludus. This
fact will ensure you a considerable award! Your Tingis
didn't came up to our expectations!

Now? Now we are waiting fo the entrance in the arena
of two new Venatores... what an interesting and
important day! We will have two well-known citizens!
Franciscus Apulus Caesar, Propraetor Italiae, and
Senator Caeso Fabius Quintilianus, Aedilis Curulis!
Good luck to you and... to your fighters, Aurum and
Dania!!!

Also consider that the day of the prize-giving
approaches... are you doing your calculations as to
your award??? ;)

Well, have a good time, citizens of Nova Roma, with
the Venationes of the Ludi Apollinares!

VALETE OPTIME
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: NR Civ2 Game Scenario
From:	"Otto_Von_Sitter" <otto_von_sitter@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:45:56 -0000

Sorry, been a long time since I could check back.

Nope, I don't get to play games like that much, I never have time, and
I don't have money to play them.

Marcus Cornelius Tiberius

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "James LaSalle, Esq." <jlasalle@k...> wrote:
> Ever try "Legions" from Slitherine?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Otto_Von_Sitter
> To: Nova-Roma@y...
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:27 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: NR Civ2 Game Scenario
>
>
> I'm interested in this too. Hey Pater! Maybe the Cornelians can take
> over the whole Empire! :-)
>
> Marcus Cornelius Tiberius
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@y..., "gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@c...> wrote:
> > The talk about computer games made inspired me to make a Nova Roma
> > scenario for Civilization 2. I tested it already but it needed work,
> > since the Parthians were not interested in attacking and the
> > 'Barbarian Union' settled down into peaceful development of their
> > lands. Boring!
> >
> > I haven't tried Civ 3 yet, but I understand it has no scenario builder
> > yet.
> >
> > Anyway, in my scenario the Roman Empire is divided into 5 giant
> > provinces. The object is to maintian the alliance with the other Nova
> > Roma factions while keeping the Parthian Empire and Barbarian Union at
> > bay. Of course, if you can betray and conquer the other NR factions
> > and put all of the Roman Empire under your rule, that works too!
> >
> > Each faction is named for a prominent gens in Nova Roma:
> >
> > Cassian Romans, with their capital in Rome.
> > Fabian Romans---capital Carthage
> > Cornelian Romans---capital Athens
> > Octavian Romans---capital Londinium
> > Equitian Romans---capital Alexandria
> >
> > The Parthian Empire is there, and will overtake you in scientific
> > research if you are not careful. The Barbarian Union is behind you
> > technologically, but is large and presents a real threat.
> >
> > I'll upload it into the file library when it is finished and working
> > to my liking.
> >
> > Nerva
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Nova Roman Citizenship Applicant Postumus Minucus Baro
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:52:16 -0400 (EDT)

Citizens of Nova Roma;

My friends I am pleased to bring before you a new applicant to the Gens
Minucia. His name is Postumus Minucius Baro, and I have this day sent
my acceptance of him into the Gens Minucia to the Honored Censors of our
republic.

Master Baro comes highly recommended to me by my very good friend and
close colleague "Maximus" Mecurius Minucius Gladius who is the lead
gladiator and co-owner, with me, of the Ludi Maximus Gladitori (Great
School of the Gladiator) which is also a proud part of Legion XXIV.

Master Baro has indicated that he has a strong interest in military and
civilian engineering design and construction, and he is seriously
contemplating joining the Gladiator School as well.

I am extremely pleased to introduce this gentleman to you and would ask
that you will make him as welcome here in Nova Roma, as you have been so
generous in making me welcome among you.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens;
Paterfamilius for the Patrician Gens Minucia

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roman Citizenship Applicant Postumus Minucus
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:01:03 -0600

Ave,

Congratulations on your newest citizen Senator, and welcome.

Vale,
Aeternia

-----Original Message-----
From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net
[mailto:jmath669642reng@webtv.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:52 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roman Citizenship Applicant
Postumus Minucus Baro

Citizens of Nova Roma;

My friends I am pleased to bring before you a new applicant
to the Gens
Minucia. His name is Postumus Minucius Baro, and I have
this day sent
my acceptance of him into the Gens Minucia to the Honored
Censors of our
republic.

Master Baro comes highly recommended to me by my very good
friend and
close colleague "Maximus" Mecurius Minucius Gladius who is
the lead
gladiator and co-owner, with me, of the Ludi Maximus
Gladitori (Great
School of the Gladiator) which is also a proud part of
Legion XXIV.

Master Baro has indicated that he has a strong interest in
military and
civilian engineering design and construction, and he is
seriously
contemplating joining the Gladiator School as well.

I am extremely pleased to introduce this gentleman to you
and would ask
that you will make him as welcome here in Nova Roma, as you
have been so
generous in making me welcome among you.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens;
Paterfamilius for the Patrician Gens Minucia

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Ludi Apollinares - Roman authors IV
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:52:43 +0100 (BST)

Salvete!

The fourth author I would like to tell about: the
great historian Titus Livius:

-----

TITUS LIVIUS

Titus Livius was (probably) born in 59 BC in the
thriving city of Patavium, currently Padua (northern
Italy), from a rather wealthy family. His great
admiration for Cicero made him decide to write a
history of Rome, as Cicero always wanted to do (but
never did). Livius grew up in a rather restless Italy.
In 49 BC Caesar invaded Italy near Patavium and
started a civil war against the senate and Pompeius.
In the following years he defeated Pompeius and became
ruler of Rome, until he was murdered by conspirators
in 44 BC. After his death there was again much
violence. This ended in a new confrontation between
Octavianus and Marcus Antonius, which resulted in the
Pax Romana under Augustus / Octavianus. During these
civil wars Livius probably remained in northern Italy.
His ample knowledge of military business and geography
makes us think he did not serve in the army, nor did
he travel around, normally two main activities for a
young man from his class. It seems he arrived in Roma
shortly after the victory of Octavianus, and started
writing his History.

Livius was the first in Latin literature who occupied
himself solely with writing. All other authors before
him also had their political activities. Livius
remained an outsider in politics and military: as an
admiring spectator he described everything that had
happened in Rome since the founding. Of course he made
much use of his great linguistic competence, his
strongly developed sense for rhetoric and drama, and
his ability to imagine himself in all kind of
situations. He wanted to present his readers a
wonderful image of the great Roman past. The many
instructive examples there seemed very important to
him to use in his own time, where moral decay was a
much heard complaint. In the preface to his work he
clearly states his intentions and motives.


“Whether the task I have undertaken of writing a
complete history of the Roman people from the very
commencement of its existence will reward me for the
labour spent on it, I neither know for certain, nor if
I did know would I venture to say. For I see that this
is an old-established and a common practice, each
fresh writer being invariably persuaded that he will
either attain greater certainty in the materials of
his narrative, or surpass the rudeness of antiquity in
the excellence of his style. However this may be, it
will still be a great satisfaction to me to have taken
my part, too, in investing, to the utmost of my
abilities, the annals of the foremost nation in the
world with a deeper interest; and if in such a crowd
of writers my own reputation is thrown into the shade,
I would console myself with the renown and greatness
of those who eclipse my fame. The subject, moreover,
is one that demands immense labour. It goes back
beyond 700 years and, after starting from small and
humble beginnings, has grown to such dimensions that
it begins to be overburdened by its greatness. I have
very little doubt, too, that for the majority of my
readers the earliest times and those immediately
succeeding, will possess little attraction; they will
hurry on to these modern days in which the might of a
long paramount nation is wasting by internal decay. I,
on the other hand, shall look for a further reward of
my labours in being able to close my eyes to the evils
which our generation has witnessed for so many years;
so long, at least, as I am devoting all my thoughts to
retracing those pristine records, free from all the
anxiety which can disturb the historian of his own
times even if it cannot warp him from the truth.”


Livius divided his work, “Ab Urbe Condita” (From the
founding of the City), in groups of five or ten books,
each containing around fifty pages. The first five
books were published between 27 and 25 BC and
immediately made him enormously famous. He also gained
the friendship of Augustus, who strived for the
recreation of the ancient Roman virtues and values. He
found in Livius a historian who strived for the same
ideal. Did Livius foresee what kind of work he started
with? Probably not. His work would at last contain 142
books with a total of about 7000 pages, and end in the
year 9 BC. Livius died at age 75 in 17 AD. We have
almost no information about the progress of his work.
In his introduction on book 31, immediately after the
war with Hannibal, he writes as follows:


“I, too, feel as much relief in having reached the end
of the Punic War as if I had taken a personal part in
its toils and dangers. It ill befits one who has had
the courage to promise a complete history of Rome to
find the separate sections of such an extensive work
fatiguing. But when I consider that the sixty-three
years from the beginning of the First Punic War to the
end of the Second take up as many books as the four
hundred and eighty-seven years from the foundation of
the City to the consulship of Appius Claudius under
whom the First Punic War commenced, I see that I am
like people who are tempted by the shallow water along
the beach to wade out to sea; the further I progress,
the greater the depth, as though it were a bottomless
sea, into which I am carried. I imagined that as I
completed one part after another the task before me
would diminish; as it is, it almost becomes greater.”


>From this huge work only a quarter has survived: books
1-10 (from the founding in 753 BC until 287 BC), books
21-30 (Second Punic War – against Hannibal), books
31-45 (wars against Philippus, Perseus and Antiochus;
201-167 BC). Some other fragments have also been
preserved, and the contents of all his books. It is
also said that books 121-142 (on the years 43-9 BC)
were published after his death.


Livius at the beginning of book 21, about the Second
Punic War: “I consider myself at liberty to commence
what is only a section of my history with a prefatory
remark such as most writers have placed at the very
beginning of their works, namely, that the war I am
about to describe is the most memorable of any that
have ever been waged, I mean the war which the
Carthaginians, under Hannibal's leadership, waged with
Rome. No states, no nations ever met in arms greater
in strength or richer in resources; these Powers
themselves had never before been in so high a state of
efficiency or better prepared to stand the strain of a
long war; they were no strangers to each other's
tactics after their experience in the first Punic War;
and so variable were the fortunes and so doubtful the
issue of the war that those who were ultimately
victorious were in the earlier stages brought nearest
to ruin. And yet, great as was their strength, the
hatred they felt towards each other was almost
greater. The Romans were furious with indignation
because the vanquished had dared to take the offensive
against their conquerors; the Carthaginians bitterly
resented what they regarded as the tyrannical and
rapacious conduct of Rome. The prime author of the war
was Hamilcar. There was a story widely current that
when, after bringing the African War to a close, he
was offering sacrifices before transporting his army
to Spain, the boy Hannibal, nine years old, was
coaxing his father to take him with him, and his
father led him up to the altar and made him swear with
his hand laid on the victim that as soon as he
possibly could he would show himself the enemy of
Rome. The loss of Sicily and Sardinia vexed the proud
spirit of the man, for he felt that the cession of
Sicily had been made hastily in a spirit of despair,
and that Sardinia had been filched by the Romans
during the troubles in Africa, who, not content with
seizing it, had imposed an indemnity as well.”



Livius based his reports of the events on more ancient
authors, such as the annalists (chroniclers, who
recorded the events year per year). He often used
these as a starting point, and gave a few possible
variations at the end of each episode. Though one can
say that he copied too easily the fabrications of his
predecessors, he also shows himself repeatedly
critical of their distortion of the facts and their
exaggeration. Especially on Valerius Antias he has a
lot of criticism in his later books. Other annalists
used by Livius are Fabius Pictor and Cincius
Alimentus, both eyewitnesses of the Second Punic War,
and Claudius Quadrigarius and Licinius Macer. The
works of all these authors has been lost, possibly
because they were outstripped by Livius’ work. Another
source was the Greek historian Polybios, whom Livius
calls a reliable author. Polybius came to Rome in 168
BC as a prisoner of war and was received amongst
educated people. He wrote a large history of Rome on
the years 264-168 BC, from which one third has been
preserved.

For his books 21-30 Livius also had another important
source at his disposal, written by Coelius Antipater
(lived 175-120 BC; on the Second Punic War). Antipater
used all ancient sources available, like Silenus, a
Greek historian travelling with Hannibal. As a
“Carthage-oriented” author Silenus formed an important
counterbalance for Roman historiography, mainly
propagandistic and patriotic.

With this material Livius wrote his History of Rome.
Like the annalists he wrote his report year per year.
Though, according to nowadays’ values, we can
certainly criticize his methods, we may not forget
that people in his era thought differently on these
subjects. The success of his work shows that it was
well admired an eagerly read. This last aspect is
proven until today: Livius was a great story-teller,
who possessed many abilities to give a lively image of
the events.


Livius in book 2, when plebeians are demanding more
rights: “It is said that the first idea was to put the
consuls to death that the men might be discharged from
their oath; then, on learning that no religious
obligation could be dissolved by a crime, they
decided, at the instigation of a certain Sicinius, to
ignore the consuls and withdraw to the Sacred Mount,
which lay on the other side of the Anio, three miles
from the City. This is a more generally accepted
tradition than the one adopted by Piso that the
secession was made to the Aventine. There, without any
commander in a regularly entrenched camp, taking
nothing with them but the necessaries of life, they
quietly maintained themselves for some days, neither
receiving nor giving any provocation. A great panic
seized the City, mutual distrust led to a state of
universal suspense. Those plebeians who had been left
by their comrades in the City feared violence from the
patricians; the patricians feared the plebeians who
still remained in the City, and could not make up
their minds whether they would rather have them go or
stay. "How long," it was asked, "would the multitude
who had seceded remain quiet? What would happen if a
foreign war broke out in the meantime?" They felt that
all their hopes rested on concord amongst the
citizens, and that this must be restored at any cost.
The senate decided, therefore, to send as their
spokesman Menenius Agrippa, an eloquent man, and
acceptable to the plebs as being himself of plebeian
origin. He was admitted into the camp, and it is
reported that he simply told them the following fable
in primitive and uncouth fashion. "In the days when
all the parts of the human body were not as now
agreeing together, but each member took its own course
and spoke its own speech, the other members, indignant
at seeing that everything acquired by their care and
labour and ministry went to the belly, whilst it,
undisturbed in the middle of them all, did nothing but
enjoy the pleasures provided for it, entered into a
conspiracy; the hands were not to bring food to the
mouth, the mouth was not to accept it when offered,
the teeth were not to masticate it. Whilst, in their
resentment, they were anxious to coerce the belly by
starving it, the members themselves wasted away, and
the whole body was reduced to the last stage of
exhaustion. Then it became evident that the belly
rendered no idle service, and the nourishment it
received was no greater than that which it bestowed by
returning to all parts of the body this blood by which
we live and are strong, equally distributed into the
veins, after being matured by the digestion of the
food." By using this comparison, and showing how the
internal disaffection amongst the parts of the body
resembled the animosity of the plebeians against the
patricians, he succeeded in winning over his
audience.”


The long series of political and military facts are at
many points interrupted by short or longer stories,
where he emphasises on individuals: consuls, generals,
ordinary citizens and soldiers, men and women. He
writes about their thoughts and feelings in a
suggestive manner, or lets themselves speak, in moving
orations. This makes a pleasure of reading his work,
and thus his work also has a remaining actual value.
The facts may be subject to constant change, the
people with all their qualities, motives and feelings
have remained the same.

-----

Enjoy the Ludi Apollinares!!

Valete bene

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Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
civis Novae Romae

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Cognoma
From:	MVariusPM@aol.com
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:48:54 EDT

Salve,

Here is one link (aside from the Nova Roma link) that discusses it: <A HREF="http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/roman_names.html">Roman
Nomenclature</A>

Also, <A HREF="http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/">Legion XXIV - Roman Names Page</A> , <A HREF="http://www.ualberta.ca/~csmackay/CLASS_110/Mid.Rep.html">CLASS 110: Roman Conquest of the
Mediterranean</A> and <A HREF="http://www.usask.ca/antharch/cnea/CourseNotes/RomanName.html">Roman Name, Univ. of Saskatchewan</A>

And, <A HREF="http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/rome-names.htm">Roman Names</A>.

Here's one the lists quite a few "nicknames" <A HREF="http://www.arduini.net/names/names14.htm">The Ancient Roman Roots of
the Italian-American Nickname</A>

One more for good measure: <A HREF="http://www.societasviaromana.yucom.be/nomina.htm">Roman names ... for dummies !</A> (no insult
intended - that's just what they named the web site!)

Valate,
M. Varius

In a message dated 7/10/02 5:59:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk writes:


> Salvete,
>
> Does anyone know of a resource or link that defines
> different cognoma? Any assistance would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Valete
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Cognoma
From:	"pro_postumius_nero" <socraticquestion@netscape.net>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:50:30 -0000

Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus D. Iunio Silano S.P.D.

Salve,

I would assume by cognoma you meant cognomina. I hope I'm right, as I
hate making an ass of myself, but I can take being wrong. But,
assuming again I'm right, there are three pages I would refer you to.
The first: http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources/KateMonk/A
ncient-
World/Rome/Nomina.htm</a> Here, nothing but Nomina. A good few pages
(printed) of truly Roman nomina. The second:
http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources/KateMonk/Ancient-
World/Rome/Cognomina.htm Perhaps more of what you're looking for.
100% Cognomina. Go ahead and add a few to your name (I read there was
a consul in that had 38 cognomina). Anyway, I hope they help.

Bene Vale,

Pro. Postumius Nero, barbarus Novae Romae

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] CITIZENSHIP!
From:	"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:00:35 -0000

Salvete Omnes,
With great pride I wish to announce that I became a citizen of
Nova Roma this morning. You can all be sure that I will do my best to
work and cooperate in this great society. I thank Gaius Lanius Falco
for accepting me and for all his help orientating me around by
answering many questions. I give tribute to the Censors Lucius
Equitius Cincinnatus and Caius Flavius Diocletianus for their helpful
suggestions and guidance as I found my way along. The other night on
chat I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with Senator Marcus
Octavius Germanicus and Eudocia Bianchia Catalina Quinto. They
welcomed me into Nova Roma with enthusiasm and you can be sure that
my moral was greatly boosted!
My new Roman name is Quintus Lanius Paulinus (formally Michael
Kelly). I look forward to working with you all from now on.

Valete bene,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus - Citizen Nova Roma

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Cognoma
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:17:33 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Decimus Iunius Silanus <danedwardsuk@y...>
wrote:
> Salvete,
>
> Does anyone know of a resource or link that defines
> different cognoma? Any assistance would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Valete
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus.
>
> __________________________________________________

Salve,

At my website I have a list of Roman names and their meanings. The
link is: http://home.attbi.com/~richmal/Romname.html

It is by no means exhaustive and I add to it from time to time as I
find new names and their meanings.

Pax,

Quintus Cassius Calvus

Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] CITIZENSHIP!
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:38:58 -0600

Ave,

Congratulations, may it be fruitful!

Vale,
Aeternia

-----Original Message-----
From: miguelkelly15 [mailto:mjk@datanet.ab.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:01 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] CITIZENSHIP!

Salvete Omnes,
With great pride I wish to announce that I became a
citizen of
Nova Roma this morning. You can all be sure that I will do
my best to
work and cooperate in this great society. I thank Gaius
Lanius Falco
for accepting me and for all his help orientating me around
by
answering many questions. I give tribute to the Censors
Lucius
Equitius Cincinnatus and Caius Flavius Diocletianus for
their helpful
suggestions and guidance as I found my way along. The other
night on
chat I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with Senator
Marcus
Octavius Germanicus and Eudocia Bianchia Catalina Quinto.
They
welcomed me into Nova Roma with enthusiasm and you can be
sure that
my moral was greatly boosted!
My new Roman name is Quintus Lanius Paulinus (formally
Michael
Kelly). I look forward to working with you all from now on.

Valete bene,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus - Citizen Nova Roma

Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Cognoma
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:51:08 -0600

Salve,

Now where were these links three years ago?!? I'm not sure about anyone else
but to me, the naming and choosing of ones Gens was the most challenging
things on the citizenship application.

Vale Bene,
Aeternia
-----Original Message-----
From: MVariusPM@aol.com [mailto:MVariusPM@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Cognoma

Salve,

Here is one link (aside from the Nova Roma link) that
discusses it: <A
HREF="http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/roman_names.html">Roman
Nomenclature</A>

Also, <A HREF="http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/">Legion
XXIV - Roman Names Page</A> , <A
HREF="http://www.ualberta.ca/~csmackay/CLASS_110/Mid.Rep.html">CLASS 110:
Roman Conquest of the
Mediterranean</A> and <A
HREF="http://www.usask.ca/antharch/cnea/CourseNotes/RomanName.html">Roman
Name, Univ. of Saskatchewan</A>

And, <A
HREF="http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/rome-names.htm">Roman Names</A>.

Here's one the lists quite a few "nicknames" <A
HREF="http://www.arduini.net/names/names14.htm">The Ancient Roman Roots of
the Italian-American Nickname</A>

One more for good measure: <A
HREF="http://www.societasviaromana.yucom.be/nomina.htm">Roman names ... for
dummies !</A> (no insult
intended - that's just what they named the web site!)

Valate,
M. Varius

In a message dated 7/10/02 5:59:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk writes:


> Salvete,
>
> Does anyone know of a resource or link that defines
> different cognoma? Any assistance would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Valete
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus.



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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Ludi Venatorii vii/x
From:	"Susan Brett" <trog99@hotmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:06:06 -0400

CIVITES, PEREGRINII AMICII NOVA ROMA!!!!

ONCE AGAIN.........LIVE ACTION HERE AT THE AMPHITEATRUM FLAVIUM....ROMA!!!

THE LUDI VENATORII OF THE LUDI APOLLINARES OF NOVA ROMA, IN HONOUR OF FAIR
APOLLO!!!!

Right from my vantage point I get a full view of the Entire Roman Senate, a
sea of whiTe and purple stripes, amongst this august group of people.

The happiness and the celebration of this event has not let up since the
first day!!

Pompeia here, once again, to offer a play by play of the action today.

Marcus Darius Firmitus, Legatus of Canada Orientalis has his servents taking
drink orders.......he is buying a 'round'.

"Why" is he buying a round you might ask???

Well, Marce and I are always playing little tricks on one another, and the
last time we gathered for a provincial meeting, we were enjoying a few
drinks....and I told him "hey, the next time we are together at a social
gathering, the round was his......heee heee.....

Hey I can't help it if the next social gathering is 'here' in this 'big
round' place, full of people who drink.!!!!!

(Pompeia slaps her knee and laughs loudly...brrrrahhhhhahhh!!!!)

Oh, you must think this is inconscienable on my part....nahhhh, not really,
our Legatus Nova Gallia is literally 'swimming in money''...this expense is
like a teaspoon of what to him....seriously

(Pompeia waves to her very busy legatus!!!)

HEY TINK, YOU MADE IT....OH THIS IS SO COOL.

Quirites, this is my sister Tink, more formally "Aeternia" owner of Musarum
Coorperation, a subsiduary of which is the Musarum Television Network, which
is carrying the Ludi.

Tink whispers to Po: Ahhhhh.....I *don't* know *how* you talked me into
cohosting this *spectacle* today.......I am a *busy* woman, Soror....with
far more responsibilities than *yewwwww* obviously have.

Po to Tink: Would you *mind* turning off your mike when you deliver your
snippy remarks....pray tell, *what* dearest Tinky is *soooooo* much more
important than a few minutes of attendence at the Ludi, hmm?

Tink: (with mike turned off) I happened to have an appointment at Designs
by Fabius for a new outfit for a corporate meeting that simply must *go
well*, but alas...you wouldn't know a *thing* about that, now would you
darling? Thanks to yewwwww, I'll have to wait Gods knows how long to get in
to see Fabius....he isn't exactly a 'five and dime' designer, you know.

Po grits her teeth, but maintains her composure and typical calm, cool
manner (yeah right!) and gets to the business of the Ludi.

Amicii, the opening ceremonies are about to begin!!!! Pontifex Marcus
Cassius Iulianus will perform a ritual in honour of Apollo, and the National
Anthem shall be sung by Britannia Spearus, accompanied by 'the crooning
tribune' our beloved Gneus Salix Astur!!!

Po to Tink: *What* are you doing, Tink? (Tink at present, flips through a
portfolio of papers with cell phone in hand). Tinky, I *thought* you might
be so good as to render a *few* comments about the ludi.

Tink to Po: Soror, *when* will you *finally* figure things out??? My
*mere* presence is enough, given my position, wouldn't you say???

Po: uggh

Tink: I am considering the cancellations of some of the Musarum shows.

Po: Don't you dare cancel Marcus Audens, M.D.!!!!...Matrona will be
devestated!!!!!!

Tink: No, but I think "Libertas or Ambitius?" must go.

THE ACTION HAS BEGUN!!!!

SCREAMING, SCREAMING SCREAMING IS ALL YOU HEAR!!!!!......IS IT THE BEATLES?
THE STONES? THOROGOOD?..........NO!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS THE ILLUSTRIOUS PROPRAETOR ITALIA FRANCISCUS APULUS CAESAR!!!

JUST LISTEN TO THE CROWD, LAUDING THE HOST PROPRAETOR OF THIS AUGUST
EVENT!!!!

Surrounded by his Lictors, his warm *pepsident* smile, his cool shades, he
waves and blows kisses to his admiring public, especially the ones with two
X chromosomes...hee heee

One woman stands and screams "O you doth teach the torches to burn
bright"!!!!

Tink rolls her eyes in disgust "such barbaric and forward behaviour" That's
not even Roman...



The Venator in question: Aurum of Baetica, of the Ludus Matutinus.
A fairly new fighter, but a strength of 35 and a resistence of 35...nice
matching numbers.

Our popular Propraetor paid 7,000 sestertii for this brute, and 2,500 in
ludus fees. Caesar now has 500 sestertii uncommitted.

WHAT'S THIS???

THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE BIGGEST BUFFALO I HAVE EVER SEEN.....AND HE'S FROM
ITALIA.......MIGHTY BIG BUFFALOE YOU HAVE IN THESE HERE PARTS!!!


"Buffie" has a strength of 30 and a resistence of 18.

THE FIGHT BEGINS.......

(Pompeia and Tink receive their drinks from Marcus Darius Firmitus...triple
virgin zombies)

Aurum runs with flank speed toward the buffalo's behind.....and using it as
a box horse lands smack dab in the middle of his back. Aurum is bucking
him....the buffalo is racing aroung the arena with our fighter on this
back.....

What's this??

Our fighter takes off his leather cuirass, and with the buffalo bucking
back, manages to secure it tightly around the beast's neck... the beast is
moving his next, running frantically, and noisily.

The ensuing weakness of the beast gives the following:

AURUM STRENGTH 30 AND THE BUFFALO AS MERE RESISTENCE OF 7

Within about a minute of tenacious holding of the cuirass in place and
continue bucking of the buffalo's back by our fighter, THE ELEPHANT HIS
SUCCUMED.

AURUM VICTOR!!!!! Final Resistance 32, our Buff, none.

AND OUR BELOVED PROPRAETOR FRACISCUS APULUS CAESAR HAS AN EVEN BIGGER AND
BRIGHTER PEPSIDENT SMILE........all right!!!!!!!!!

Buona Fortuna to our fighter in future combative pursuits!!!!


ENJOY THE FESTIVITIES (AND THE DRINKS!!!) AMICII, AND WE SHALL RETURN AFTER
A BRIEF NETWORK TIMEOUT!!!

Tink pipes into the mike 'THIS IS THE MUSARUM TELEVISION NETWORK'

Yunno, Po, as long as I have owned this company, I have never had the
privilege of saying that!!

That's two comments I've given.......so I'm outta here, Po....tah tah!!!

(Po trying to look as though she feels bad )

OUR NEXT ENCOUNTER......

Making his way into the arena for introduction and reception is:

Curile Aedile Caeso Fabius Quintilianus.......know also by his admirers as
the "Scandinavian Fabian"!!!! and "Snowman"!!!

He has with him, his lictors, and three of his finest purebred dogs, whom he
loves so much! How the dogs fend for his attention and affections!!

The crowd cheers nonstop.......

His Venator........nooooo......VENATRIX!!!...from the Ludis Leontinum, the
popular

DANIA of BITHYNIA!!!!!

Dania, 6'2", 180 lb......long blond hair, partially managed by a braid, is
sporting a black leather, romper-type attaire, high, black studded high heel
boots, a whip, and a spiked ball and chain.

Caeso has paid 7,000 Sestertii for Dania, and her ludus 2,000. Caeso has
1,000 left over.

The party of Fabius exists the combat area, and herein enters:

A HIPPOPOTAMUS FROM AEGYPTUS

Hmmm, he's about three times the size of Dania, it looks.

THE ACTION BEGINS.

Dania is playing a bit with ouR foe...lasooing him around the neck and
letting him go..........three times she's done this. Our beast is getting
mighty intolerant of our lady's overtures, and makes a run for her headon.

About four feet from the person of Dania, she lasoos him once again, this
time NOT letting go....she is tugging away at our beast from a distance, and
he is unable to escape. Dania has a formidable set of arm muscles, upon
which, I'd say, her life depends right now.

Our Venatrix: resistence 32, and our hungry hippo: 10

The hippo manages to free himself, and pursues Dania!!!! For a big beast he
has moved quickly. Grabbing Dania, in the left leg, Dania frees herself
with her spiked ball by deliver a whopping blow to the head of the hippo.

Dania relassoos him and delivers a few more blows to the head of the hippo

THE HIPPO SUCCUMBS......alas

DIANIA VICTIX WITH A FINAL RESISTENCE OF 31 and our hippo, zero

THE CROWD GOES WILD WITH THE VICTORY OF THE BEAUTIFUL DANIA....SHE IS LIKE
AN AMAZON....CUTE AND TOUGH!!!

Caeso Fabius is a happy, and richer man....the dogs of our curule aedile
appear as happy as their master.

Dania gives the crowd a two thumbs up and leaves the arena.

AND THIS ENDS THE ACTION OF TODAY, AMICII....THE LUDI VENATORII SHALL RETURN
TOMORROW.

In the meantime, there are other activities to be enjoyed today as part of
the glorious festival of the Ludi Apollinares.

Bene vale et BUONA FORTUNA!!!!!!!!!!!!









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