| Subject: |
RE: [Nova-Roma] El Estudio sobre la Religion Mitraica ya lo teneis disponible |
| From: |
tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:09:26 +0200 |
|
Salve and sorry for intruding on this communication,
As a non-speaker of Spanish, I have a question. Isn't there supposed to
be an English translation to these texts??? It would be very nice, so that
everybody can participate on this thread.
I mean no offense and hope that none was taken. Valete, Tiberius Annaeus
Otho
>Estimados amigos:
>El Estudio sobre el Dios Mithra y la Religión Mitraica ya lo teneis
>disponible en Internet.
>Podeis verlo en la siguiente direccion:
>
>http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ForoDelDiosMithra
>
>Ir a la seccion "Archivo" (File, in English), y allí lo encontrareis.
>
>Espero que os guste. Espero vuestros comentarios.
>Enos Pastrana
>Orden del Dios Mithra
>Madrid. España (Spain)
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: INFORMACION |
| From: |
"orden_de_mithra" <orden_de_mithra@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:05:06 -0000 |
|
Gracias, amigo, por la calida bienvenida que nos has realizado.
Intentaremos participar en la medida de nuestras posibilidades,
dentro del respeto y tolerancia mutuas, para establecer una buena
relacion entre el FORO DEL DIOS MITHRA y NOVA ROMA.
Si en algo podemos seros utiles, no tener inconveniente en decirnoslo.
Nos ponemos a vuestra disposicion.
Enos Pastrana.
Order of The Lord Mithra
Madrid. Spain.European Union
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "miguelkelly15" <mjk@d...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@y..., "orden_de_mithra" <orden_de_mithra@y...>
wrote:
> > Text in Spanish
> >
> > Estimados amigos: Os invitamos a visitar el Sitio Web de la Orden
> del
> > Dios Mithra, cuya direccion es:
> >
> > http://OrdenDelDiosMithra.iespana.es
> >
> > y a nuestro Foro sobre Mitraismo:
> >
> > http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ForoDelDiosMithra.
> >
> > Esperamos vuestros comentarios.
> >
> > Enos Pastrana
> > Orden del Dios Mithra
> > Madrid. España (Spain)
>
> Buenas dias amigos:
>
> Estoy muy feliz conocer un grupo hispanico en Nova Roma. Voy a
> escribeles despues de terminar mi trabajo hoy!
>
> Quintus Lanius Paulinus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: El Estudio sobre la Religion Mitraica ya lo teneis disponible |
| From: |
"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:57:45 -0000 |
|
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "orden_de_mithra" <orden_de_mithra@y...> wrote:
> Estimados amigos:
> El Estudio sobre el Dios Mithra y la Religión Mitraica ya lo teneis
> disponible en Internet.
> Podeis verlo en la siguiente direccion:
>
> http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ForoDelDiosMithra
>
> Ir a la seccion "Archivo" (File, in English), y allí lo
encontrareis.
>
> Espero que os guste. Espero vuestros comentarios.
> Enos Pastrana
> Orden del Dios Mithra
> Madrid. España (Spain)
Gracias amigos,
Voy a traducir en ingles para las Romanos ingleses.
Vale bene,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
Salvete Omnes,
I shall give a translation into English for you.
Dear Friends,
The study about the God Mithra and the Mitraica religion you have at
your disposal on the internet. You can see it at your convienence at
the email address http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ForoDelDiosMithra.
Just go to the archive file and find the English version.
I hope you like the site and I shall wait to hear your comments.
Enos Pastrana
Order of the God Mithra
Madrid Spain
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: El Estudio sobre la Religion Mitraica ya lo teneis disponible |
| From: |
"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:38:27 -0000 |
|
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., tiberius.ann@b... wrote:
> Salve and sorry for intruding on this communication,
>
> As a non-speaker of Spanish, I have a question. Isn't there
supposed to
> be an English translation to these texts??? It would be very nice,
so that
> everybody can participate on this thread.
>
> I mean no offense and hope that none was taken. Valete, Tiberius
Annaeus
> Otho
>
> >Estimados amigos:
> >El Estudio sobre el Dios Mithra y la Religión Mitraica ya lo
teneis
> >disponible en Internet.
> >Podeis verlo en la siguiente direccion:
> >
> >http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ForoDelDiosMithra
> >
> >Ir a la seccion "Archivo" (File, in English), y allí lo
encontrareis.
> >
> >Espero que os guste. Espero vuestros comentarios.
> >Enos Pastrana
> >Orden del Dios Mithra
> >Madrid. España (Spain)
Salve Tiberi, I translated this message late last night but it did
not get through I guess. I'll try again.
Dear friends,
The study about the God Mithra and the Mitraica religion you now have
at your disposal on the internet. You can find it in the following
email address htpp://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ForoDelDiosMithra. Go
the the archive file in the website and you'll find the English
version. I hope that you like it and look forward to hearing your
comments.
Enos Pastrana,
Order of the God Mithra
I hope that helps Tiberi,
Yours respectfully,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: De Collegio Pontificio |
| From: |
"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:02:24 -0400 |
|
Censor Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Quiritbus SPD
First of all, the applicant has only been a citizen since April 22 of this year. There is a 6 month probationary period for priesthood applications, just as there is for the taking up of secular offices.
Secondly, we are now in the middle of Summer when many people are on vacation. Perhaps therein is the delay, but then how would you know if you never asked? You've only posted to the main list with an accusation against the Pontifex Maximus.
Thirdly, to avoid the appearance of nepotism you should have another Tribune take up the case of one of your Gens members.
Fourthly, Your opinion of the applicant is not a point of consideration by the College.
Mars nos protegas!
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@t...> wrote:
> Saluete Sacerdotes!
>
> I have been receiving continous complaints from the citizen Fabius Salix Lucentinus. He sollicited his inclusion in one of the six existing vacants in the Collegium Pontificium, this happened two months ago. Lucentinus insisted but no tramit acceptation or denied sollicitude has send to this citizen.
>
> After have examined the qualifications of Lucentinus I think he would do an excellent work in hte Collegium Pontificium but the carelessness of the Pontifex Maximus seems to lack any consideration for the improvement of the officia religiosa.
>
> Cl. Salix Davianus
> ==================
> Tribunus Plebis
> Deffensor of scared cives ;-)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Further translation |
| From: |
"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:18:48 -0000 |
|
Salvete Omnes,
As you know the Mithra Religion was one of the Eastern (Persian)
religions that had a popular following in Ancient Rome. Their leader
wishes to have good, fruitful relations with Nova Roma as indicated
on his last communication in Spanish. I am a new kid on the block in
Nova Roma and just joined Egressus so I do not wish to step out of my
league with regards to matters of diplomacy. I hope one of the Nova
Roman heirarchy will take note of this positive communication and
give the proper guidance. I shall be around for the next few days and
be happy to translate.
>From Spanish to English:
Thank you friend for the comfortable welcome you have given us. We
will try to participate in all measures of our abilities with respect
and tolerance from both our groups in order to establish a good
relationship between the Forum of Mithra and Nova Roma.
If we are able to help you in any way please let us know.
There is no inconvienence in this respect. We are at your disposal.
---------------------------------------------------------------
So there is the translation. I'll forward this to Egressus and I hope
the administration sees this.
Regards,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] De Collegio Pontificio |
| From: |
Marcus Vitellius Ligus <mvitelliusligus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:26:23 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salve,
I certainly hope that the case is simply one of lack of oversight due to the large amount of spam. There must be a way to get these gentlemen a less spam succeptable e-mail section. Any ideas?
Vale,
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> wrote: Salve Tribune,
> I have been receiving continous complaints from the citizen Fabius Salix
> Lucentinus. He sollicited his inclusion in one of the six existing
> vacants in the Collegium Pontificium, this happened two months ago.
Has he also contacted the Collegium Pontificium to check that his
application was received? As the address "pontifices@novaroma.org"
gets a great deal of spam, due to its having been prominently featured
on the web site, the application may have been simply overlooked.
> After have examined the qualifications of Lucentinus I think he would do
> an excellent work in hte Collegium Pontificium but the carelessness
> of the Pontifex Maximus
The Pontifex Maximus is merely first among equals. Any Pontifex could
have introduced the topic for discussion; if none of them did, perhaps
it was never received.
Vale, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Nova Roma Freemasons? |
| From: |
"soluna_dot_org" <reesemack@soluna.org> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:19:59 -0000 |
|
> Are there any Nova Romans out there who are
> members of a Masonic Lodge?
> Please email me with your thoughts.
>
> Tonight two representatives from the local blue
> lodge are coming to my apartment to visit, since
> I am exploring the possibility of joining the
> Masons.
>
> Nerva
While not a citizen of Nova Roma (I hang out here out of interest,
curiosity and enlightenment), I -am- a Freemason, an initiate of the
Scottish Rite and a member of a Masonic Lodge of Research.
First, I hope your visitation went well and that you are well on your
way to receiving more light in your quest. From what I've gleaned in
my lurking here, Freemasonry and Nova Roma are complimentary pursuits.
If you'd like my own impressions of Masonry, feel free to check out:
http://soluna.org/exegesis/masonry.html
You can also email me at reesemack@soluna.org (reesemack (at) soluna
(dot) org), where I will be happy to discuss it with you.
Again, good luck. And let me know how it goes!
--reese mack
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Pontifex Maximus |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:28:39 -0400 (EDT) |
|
Tribunus Davianus;
I would hope that you would have had the courtesy to notify the Pontifex
Maximus prior to yout unseemly attack on his person. The Pontifex has
evidenced for years a genuine interest in all who contact him, but he is
often taken up by his business considerations as well. He has answered
my questions and the questions of hundreds of others on this list, and
has proven himself again and again to be deeply interested and involved
in the affairs of state and religion in Nova Roma. Your personal attack
on his person is at once foolish, erroneous, and a severe blow to the
dignity of your Oath and Office.
Is it possible that your Gens member's messages has not been recieved by
the Collegio? Is it possible that the messages have not been recieved
by the Pontifex. A like happenstance has occurred recently in my
correspondence, and a simple message has cleared up the
misunderstanding.
Your complaints on the part of one of your gens members sounds to me
suspiciously like a family problem, and not like religious one. As a
Magistrate your comments to the Collegio and to Nova Roma should be
couched in respectful terminology and not crude accusations. As an
individual, I choose to ignore such complaints until you learn not to
insult a Pontifex and ProConsul, without an incredable amount of
evidence or at least personal experience.
I, in my turn, would say to those who may be interested that the
Pontifex Maximus is a sensitive and friendly religious officer, who to
my personal knowledge is eager to help any individual who asks for it.
I know he and his wife very well from several face-to-face meetings, and
I support him fully in his efforts as Pontifex Maximus.
If your Gens Member needs an answer to a request, he should contact me
(as I have offered many times on this list) and I will gain for him an
answer to his question. It may not be the one he wants, but it will be
an answer. In that way we can satisfy the situation without any more
unseemly personal insults.
Marcus Minucius Audens
Senate Respondorum;
Magistrate, Senator, and ProConsul
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Pontifex Maximus |
| From: |
Diana Aventina <diana_aventina@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Dear Audens,
I didn't think that the email that you are
referring to was very rude at all & I really
didn't see it as an attack on our esteemsed
Pontifex Maximus. It just seemed like an inquiry
to me about what happened to someone's
application.
Sometimes, when people are writing or reading an
email (especially if English is their second or
third language)things may seem abrupt or rude
when the person didn't mean it at all that way.
Like I am sure that you didn't mean to come
across as really pissed off, but you did :-)
Ave,
Diana
__________________________________________________
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] ATTN [Religio Romana]: ante diem XVI Kalendas Sextilias (July 17th) |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <antonio.grilo@inov.pt> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:02:17 +0100 |
|
PONTIFEX ANTONIVS GRYLLVS GRAECVS OMNIBVS CIVIBVS SALVTEM
This is one of the dies comitiales (C), when committees of citizens can vote
on political or criminal matters.
Today is the aniversary of the dedication of a temple of Honos (Honour) and
Virtus(Virtue) which stood just outside of the Porta Capena. The first part
of the temple was dedicated to Honos and was built by Q. Fabius Cunctator in
233 BCE after his Ligurian campaign. M. Claudius Marcellus vowed a temple to
Honos and Virtus in 222, and after his capture of Syracuse in 211 BCE he
renewed his vow and wanted to rededicate the earlier temple of Honos to both
deities in 208 BCE. Nevertheless the Collegium Pontificum forbade this act
as it is only allowed to vow a temple to several deities when there is a
separate 'cella' (temple chamber) for each deity. As such M. Claudius
Marcellus restored the old temple of Honos and built an additional 'cella'
for Virtus which was dedicated in 205 BCE by his son. In it he placed many
of the artistic treasures that he had brought from Syracuse. It should be
noted that there is another temple of Honos outside the Colline Gate, and
another of Honos and Virtus built by Marius on the slope of a Hill (the
Capitolline Hill?) after his defeat of the Cimbri and Teutones (this one
was the meeting place of the Senate when Cicero was recalled from exile).
This causes some uncertainty as to the actual temple celebrated today,
although it is most probably the one referred.
Today is also a celebration of Victory on the Capitol. Though the object of
the celebration is not certain, it seems that it is the aniversary of the
dedication of one of the statues of Victory placed in the temple of Iuppiter
Optimus Maximus on the Capitol. One of the statues is made of gold and was
sent by Hiero of Syracuse to encourage the Romans after the disastrous
battle of Lake Trasimene. Another statue of Victory driving a 'biga'
(two-horse chariot) was in the vestibule.
The month of Quinctilis is sacred to Iuppiter. It was renamed Iulius in 44
BCE in honour of the deified C. Iulius Caesar.
Dii vos bene ament
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] PONTIFF APPLICATION - Fabius Salix Lucentinus |
| From: |
cassius622@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:14:34 EDT |
|
Salve,
Salix Davianus, your accusations against me regarding Fabius Salix Lucentius
are both wrong and completely unfounded. It would have been better if you had
posessed the courtesy to write to myself or the Collegium Pontificum before
posting your complaint.
Fabius Salix Lucentius has already received information as to why his
application has taken two months to process. I do not know why he has
complained to you, since the reason was clear:
At the time he applied, Fabius Salix Fabius *could not be a Pontiff*. In
fact, he still cannot legally hold the position. The Collegium has a three
month Citizenship requirement before one can apply to any priesthood. Salix
Fabius became a Citizen on April 22 of this year. He should not even have
applied before July 22 - six days from now. That requirement is clearly
posted on the Priesthood application page.
However, although Fabius Salix Lucentius applied at an illegal time, we were
impressed enough to keep his application for consideration rather than to
deny him outright. One might even think that would be a reason to be pleased,
not make accusations on the main list.
A decision on Fabius Salix Lucentius will be provided either on either July
22, or July 23. Until then your Gens member must wait out his Citizenship
requirement just like anyone else.
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus
Cl. Salix Davianus writes:
"After have examined the qualifications of Lucentinus I think he would do an
excellent work in hte Collegium Pontificium but the carelessness of the
Pontifex Maximus seems to lack any consideration for the improvement of the
officia religiosa."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Magisterial Complaints in the Forum |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:16:26 -0000 |
|
Salvete Omnes:
I think, in all fairness, it is basic common courtesy to investigate
the delay in a magisterial or collegial action privately first, to
rule out a mail delay, people being on holidays and the like.
Put yourself in the other guys' shoes, please. Would you like it if
you were the object of complaint in public over a matter amounting to
a minor misunderstanding?
Let us consider eachother's feelings and timeframes.
The list guidelines recommend this....please make the first course of
action a private correspondence.
Bene vale,
P. Cornelia
Praetor et List Moderator
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Combat online |
| From: |
MVariusPM@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:49:54 EDT |
|
Salveto,
I know most of the list members are not members of AOL, but for those who
are; did you know you can "roll dice" in AOL private chat rooms online? I've
used this feature on many occassions for online RPGs and was thinking it
would work for real time online competitions like wrestling, boxing, or
gladiatorial combats. If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to show you how
it works. On of the fun things to do afterward is to post the competition to
a message board or news list so people can see how the battle went.
Valate,
M. Varius
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 62 |
| From: |
"Joachim Verplancke" <antifascisme@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:10:21 +0200 |
|
Salvete Omnes, (yes, even the Censors)
Weeks ago I applied for citizenship and so of you may already be aware that
I'm getting slightly frustrated because there seems to be no progress in my
file. Therefore I once again ask the censors to push everything a little, I
really want to be a New Roman you see.
Vale,
I P B
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] ACADEMIA: Basic Roman Military History Courses |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:38:08 +0100 (BST) |
|
Gnaeus Salix Astur Populo Novo Romano S.P.D.
It is my pleasure to announce the opening of the inscription period for
a new group of Academia Thules courses: the Basic Roman Military
History Courses 101, 102 and 103 imparted by our most esteemed senator
Marcus Minucius Audens.
Marcus Minucius is very well known here in Nova Roma. Among his many
good deeds, he has been working hard to establish the Sodalitas
Militarium as the best working (for the moment being, at least ;-) )
sodalitas of Nova Roma. This, coupled with his personal interest and
experience in the subject, makes Marcus Minucius one of the best
possible praeceptores the Academia could have for such a course.
The Basic Roman Military History Courses 101, 102 and 103 will accept
students until the 12th of September. The course will begin on the 17th
of September, and will last for 20 weeks.
If you subscribe to these courses, you will recieve further
instructions a few days before the beginning of the courses.
So if you want to know more about the Roman art of war, I
invite you to subscribe today at:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/
=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] De Collegio Pontificio |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:52:18 -0500 |
|
Salve Consul Octavius,
>>Has he also contacted the Collegium Pontificium to check that his
application was received? As the address "pontifices@novaroma.org"
gets a great deal of spam, due to its having been prominently featured
on the web site, the application may have been simply overlooked.<<
Yes he has contacted with the Collegium al least three times. Only Pontifex Gryllus, which is doing an excellent work for the Religio Romana, answer to his sollicitudes. But the Pontifex Maximus has given an poorly impression to me and the citizens of Hispania were the case was debated.
Valeto optime,
Cl. Salix Davianus
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: De Collegio Pontificio |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:00:28 -0500 |
|
Salue Luci Equiti:
(1) Certainly you have reason about the "6 month probationary period" but I think that it would be extremely useful to answer all messages of posibly appliants.
(2) The affair was old, of more than two months ago. I agree with you than now in the Summer is difficult time because vacations.
(3) My apologies to all pontifices by the inexactitudes in my previous messages.
(4) In Hispania most of peoples are named "Salix", by this reason it can be considered a case of nepotism, but to share the same gens don't pressupose a specially close relation.
Cl. Sl. Davianus
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Pontifex Maximus |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:07:06 -0500 |
|
Honorabilis Senator Audens,
My intention is not to attack Pontifex Maximus, by no means!
I read the postings remitted to a possible applicant and really
these postings don't contain any adequate response to the
sollicitudes of the applicant.
My apologies if my posting was interpreted as a personal attack!
I cited possibly erroneously Pontifex Maximus as a possible responsible
of the new applications in the Collegium Pontificium.
I reiterate that I don't have familiar or personal or specially closed relations
to the citizens inscribed in the same gens than I. My apologies for my
possible errors.
Cl. Salix Davianus
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] EDICTUM PROPRAETORICIUM VIII - AEDIFICATIO SYMBOLORVM PROVINCIAE ITALIAE |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:54:21 +0200 |
|
EDICTUM PROPRAETORICIUM VIII
AEDIFICATIO SYMBOLORVM PROVINCIAE ITALIAE
Ex Officio Propraetoris Provinciae Italiae
I. By this Edictum the representative symbols of the Province Italia is
instituted. This symbols have been chosen from the majority of the italici
citizens through provincial Comitia as said by the Edictum Propraetoricium
VII - "Comitia Provinciae Italiae de Electione Symbolorum Provinciae".
II The symbols of the Italy Province, published at
http://italia.novaroma.org/egressus/symbols.htm, are composed by:
1) PROVINCIAL LOGO
The provincial logo, designed by Gaius Quirinus Caesar and entitled
PENINSULA ITALICA, is composed by symbols representing the Provincia and it
is recognizable outside from Nova Roma too. It is composed from the map of
the Italy on the gold nova roman crown of laurel and red background. The
provincial logos will be inserted in the promotional materials (websites,
flyers, posters, etc.) and in the official flag of the Provincia.
2) PROVINCIAL HYMN
The provincial hymn, composed by Manius Constantinus Serapio, is entitled
CORAM DEIS and is
composed for an orchestra of 5 tubae, 1 tympanum and cymbali. This Hymn is a
triumphal return, the reborn of Romans in the italic land. This music
rapresents a real gloroious transit under the big arch which separates the
past and the forgetfullness by the present and the future in front of the
Gods.
3) PROTECTING GOD
The protecting goddess of the Provincia Italia is Dea Roma, similar to
Minerva as known in the "Altare della Patria" in Rome. She is the Dea Italia
too and today she represents the Italy. She represents the religious feeling
of each citizen and the history of the Italian peninsula. One goddess which
have moved the hearts of the big Patres Patriae of the history. Under her
name the stronger actions were did and the exaltness was the heart of the
Res Publica: "primus inter pares", because only Rome is higher, and "civis
romanus sum", being proud witness of the Romanity, are the phrases
representing the splendour of the Goddess in the best way. This ideas have
been in the relations between the citizens and the foreigners.
III This edictum has an immediate effect. Promulgated on a.d. XVI Kalendas
Augustas MMDCCLV a.u.c. (July 17, 2002), in the year of the consuls Marcus
Octavius Germanicus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.
IV. This Edictum is approved by Curia Italica (21/06/2002,
http://italia.novaroma.org/curia/r21062002.txt).
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
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EDICTUM PROPRAETORICIUM VIII
AEDIFICATIO SYMBOLORVM PROVINCIAE ITALIAE
Ex Officio Propraetoris Provinciae Italiae
I. Con questo Edictum è istituita la simbologia rappresentativa della
Provincia Italia. Tale simboli sono stati scelti dalla maggioranza dei
cittadini italici tramite Comitia provinciali come previsto dal precendente
Edictum Propraetoricium VII - "Comitia Provinciae Italiae de Electione
Symbolorum Provinciae".
II. La simbologia della Provincia Italia, visionabile all'indirizzo Internet
http://italia.novaroma.org/egressus/symbols.htm, è composta da:
1) LOGO PROVINCIALE
Il logo provinciale, ideato da Gaius Quirinus Longinus Minor e intitolatao
PENINSULA ITALICA, è composta da simboli rappresentativi della Provincia ed
è facilmente riconoscibile anche fuori da Nova Roma. Esso è composto dalla
cartina dell'italia su l'alloro doratodi Nova Roma, con fondo porpora. Il
logo provinciale sarà inserito all'interno del materiale promozionale (siti
Internet, flyers, manifesti, ecc.) e sulla bandiera ufficiale della
Provincia.
2) INNO PROVINCIALE
L'inno provinciale, composto da Manius Constantinus Serapio, è intitolato
CORAM DEIS ed è composto per un'orchestra di minimo 5 tubae, 1 tympanum e
cymbali. L'inno è un ritorno trionfale, la rinascita dei Romani sul
territorio italico. Questa musica simboleggia un vero e proprio passaggio
glorioso sotto il grande arco che separa il passato e la dimenticanza da
presente e futuro di fronte agli Dei.
3) DIVINITA' PROTETTRICE
La divinità protettrice della Provincia Italia è la Dea Roma, sotto le
sembianze di Minerva come appare nell'Altare della Patria a Roma. Ella è
anche la Dea Italia e ancora oggi rappresenta l'Italia. Ella incarna il
sentimento religioso di ogni cittadino italico e le origini storiche della
penisola italica.Unica divinità che ha mosso gli animi dei grandi Patres
Patriae della storia. In suo nome sono state compiute le piu' grandi gesta e
la sua cosciente esaltazione era il fulcro della Res Publica: "primus inter
pares", poichè solo Roma ti è superiore, e "civis romanus sum", l'essere
orgogliosamente testimone della romanità, sono le frasi che meglio
rappresentano la grandezza dell'ideale della Dea
Roma, che erano alla base dei rapporti tra i cittadini nei confronti degli
stanieri.
III. Questo edictum ha effetto immediato. Promulgato il a.d. XVI Kalendas
Augustas MMDCCLV a.u.c.
(17 Luglio, 2002), nell'anno del consolato di Marcus Octavius Germanicus e
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.
IV. Questo Edictum ha l'approvazione della Curia Italica (21/06/2002,
http://italia.novaroma.org/curia/r21062002.txt)
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] PONTIFF APPLICATION - Fabius Salix Lucentinus |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:11:32 -0500 |
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Care Cassi,
My apologies to you if you considered that may previous posting was an attack.
By no means, I only wished to state a series of facts concerning the application
of a citizens. I only read the postings send by this citizens, and the postings received
by this citizens, and I had the impression of some negligence. But by no means
I pressupose bad intentions in any persons [only possibly negligence but no more]
Cl. Salix Davianus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Magisterial Complaints in the Forum |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:12:08 -0500 |
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You do have all reason, cara Pompeia!
----- Original Message -----
From: pompeia_cornelia
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:16 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Magisterial Complaints in the Forum
Salvete Omnes:
I think, in all fairness, it is basic common courtesy to investigate
the delay in a magisterial or collegial action privately first, to
rule out a mail delay, people being on holidays and the like.
Put yourself in the other guys' shoes, please. Would you like it if
you were the object of complaint in public over a matter amounting to
a minor misunderstanding?
Let us consider eachother's feelings and timeframes.
The list guidelines recommend this....please make the first course of
action a private correspondence.
Bene vale,
P. Cornelia
Praetor et List Moderator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Resigntation as Tribunus |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:19:18 -0500 |
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Saluete Patres Conscripti, saluete cives:
Due to my poorly command in the affair of the Collegium Pontificium
I am not deserve, continuing being Tribune by my particular incompetence
in this affair.
I wish express my apologies to all persons affected by my negligent
words. As a romanus, my "dignitas" prevent me to continue acting as
a Tribune. I expect the Senate accept my resignation as Tribune of
this year.
Valete bene,
Cl. Salix Davianus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Resigntation as Tribunus |
| From: |
Valerian75@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:33:01 EDT |
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Salve Salix Davianus,
I think you are being a bit harsh on yourself. We all make mistakes and this
is no different. You live and learn. It took 6 months before my application
was decided upon and it was worth the wait. I contacted the Pontifex Maximus
privately and he handled all my questions accordingly and in a timely manner.
You have to also take into account Patricia's recent illness and his work
schedule. You should know also that even in our service to Rome we all have
other obligations, no matter how small, that can get in the way. I don't
think resignation will solve your problems. I once tried to resign as well,
but this same reason was pointed out to me.
Vale,
Lucia Ambrosia Valeria
Valerian75@aol.com
Priestess to Vesta
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Resignation as Tribunus |
| From: |
"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:49:06 -0500 |
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Salue Consul Sulla,
I don't resigne by some criticism. I consider I did not do well my work.
I only expect one thing with my resignation to pay the price by my poor
performance in the affair with Collegium Pontificium.
I consider that a serene and undramatical resignation by my part will
"clean" my reputation. Other year I present my candidature for Tribunus
and if the people of Rome consider it convenient I will be Tribunus other
time ;-)
Thanks for your kind-hearted words consul, I resign because dignity not
criticism [on the other hand the criticism is a fair one].
Cl. Salix Davianus
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Solum Civis Honestus
only a honest citizen.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Resigntation as Tribunus |
| From: |
"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Hirtius=20Helveticus?=" <hirtius75ch@yahoo.de> |
| Date: |
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:51:47 +0200 (CEST) |
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Salvete quirites
--- Claudius Salix Davianus wtote:
> Saluete Patres Conscripti, saluete cives:
>
> Due to my poorly command in the affair of the
> Collegium Pontificium
> I am not deserve, continuing being Tribune by my
> particular incompetence
> in this affair.
Honoured tribunus plebis
Please, do reconsider this. As a tribunus plebis it is
your task to defend cives, even though they may be
wrong. You haven't done anything wrong at all. Yes, it
would have been better, if you would have contacted
the people involved first, but, hey, you are one of
the elected tribunus plebis! You are part of our
checks and balance system! You acted right. I
understand, that your office may ask you to take
uncomfortable steps regarding other officials, but
what the heck, it is your duty - as it was in ancient
times. Please, withdraw your resignation.
A humble citizen, valete bene,
=====
A. Hirtius Helveticus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] To Tribune Salix Davianus |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:52:57 -0000 |
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Salve Honoured Tribune Salix Davianus:
The fact that you were advocating on a civies behalf for his right to
be heard is commendable.
There was nothing wrong with what you did as Tribune....that's what
you are supposed to do.
But the list guidelines do suggest that we all make an effort to take
such matters privately.
So, you didn't.....a minor discourtesy, really. The reason I
mentioned it, is that we should not make that sort of thing habitual.
You are giving yourself a captial punishment over something
minor ...like jaywalking.
Please don't do that!!!!! Tribune Salix Davianus, I have made many
mistakes....if you like I'll download them all onto a disc for you :)
No, no....please don't quit.
Bene vale,
Pompeia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Interesting disscussion |
| From: |
M VanBoskerck <sanctuary12001@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:32:18 -0700 (PDT) |
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Salvete!
On the Hellenismos and Relgio Romana bulletin board over at Beliefnet.com there is an interesting disscussion regarding "Relgio Americana" I thought others might find it interesting so here is the link to the disscussion.
http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?boardID=13978&discussionID=166801
Valete,
Flavia Iulia Iustina
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