Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Help for an old friend??
From:	cassius622@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:58:48 EDT

Salvete Omnes,

I am posting on behalf of an old Roman friend of mine, Gaius Iulius Iulianus,
living in Phoenix, Arizona, USA.

Gaius Iulius is the first "Roman" I ever contacted, long before the beginning
of Nova Roma. He was one of the few people that was around for the founding
of NR, and was a great help in the beginning of our Micronation.

For the past couple of years, Gaius has been living in Michigan and without
reliable computer access. He has just become unhappily divorced, and due to
unfortunate monetary circumstances has moved back to Arizona to care for his
elderly mother. Not only is he going through a difficult time personally, he
has been 'out of the loop' for far too long as far as things Roman and Nova
Roma itself.

Gaius has just written to me, hoping to hear from other Romans, both in his
area and around the world. I'm going to try and get him onto the NR list, but
I'm hoping that some Citizens out there might be willing to write to him
personally on occasion. His email address is: ivlianvs309@yahoo.com

Gaius is very knowlegable about Roman subjects, and has been practicing the
Religio Romana for more years than even I know. If anyone out there would
care to drop him a quick email to say "hi", I'm sure the gesture would be
greatly appreciated!

Valete ,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus



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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Market Day
From:	Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:39:36 -0400

Salvete!

As some of you know, we are planning a Roman Market Day on Sept. 7 here
in Wells, Maine. This will be a day of Roman re-enacting, both in
fellowship with other Romans and for the purpose of educating and
entertaining the public.

Details are on this Web site: http://www.romanmarketday.com (with thanks
to Marcus Octavius Germanicus for hosting). I just posted it all
tonight, so let me know if you see anything that needs fixing or have
any questions.

In the meantime: Please come to Maine for this event! We would love to
have as many Nova Romans present as possible. We are especially in need
of volunteers to help with admissions, food, children's crafts. If
you're able to appear in Roman garb as part of the day, so much the
better!

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Reminder: Consular Edictum on the Resignation of Offices
From:	"Lucius Mauricius Procopious" <procopious@attbi.com>
Date:	Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:57:43 -0700

Salvete!

I would like to go on record as supporting the return of Claudius Salix
Davianus. Veto his resignation, decide the edicta does not apply to a
Tribune of the Plebs, look the other way and let him return, what ever
method we choose, we should support his return. We manage to be divisive
enough most of the time, maybe we can find a way to be inclusive and
supportive this time? : )

Lucius Mauricius Procopious
Tribunus Plebis
Propraetor America Boreoccidentalis
(This is an unofficial post for which I assume full responsibility)
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Nam ex parente meo et ex aliis sanctis viris ita accepi munditias mulieribus
laborem viris convenire omnibusque bonis oportere plus gloriae quam
divitiarum esse.
I have learned from my father and other holy men that women are suited to
elegance, while men to work; and that all good people should have more glory
than wealth.
Sallustius Crispus quoting Marius
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Reminder: Consular Edictum on the Resignation
of Offices


> Salvete Quirites; et salve, consul Sulla.
>
> --- "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> <<snipped>>
>
> > Ave,
> >
> > That works for me since I am in complete agreement with the opinion
> > of Propraetor Lucius Sicinius Drusus. There is no way Consuls, let
> > alone Patrician Consuls, impose laws that regulate the Tribune of the
> > Plebs. A veto is not even necessary. It is up to Davianus to return
> > since the Comitia Plebis has not passed any resignation law that
> > would govern any magistrate elected in the Comitia Plebis Tributa,
> > and probably up to the opinions of the other Tribunes if they want
> > him to return or not, because of the absence of legislation.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> I think that what you are saying makes a lot of sense.
>
> As for my opinion, I think that Claudius Salix Davianus has been an
> excellent tribune so far, and that he has much to offer to Nova Roma.
>
> And also, given that the opinion of the Senate and the People of Nova
> Roma is for him to retain his office, I am impelled to publicly express
> my consent to his reinstatement. So if the above reasonement is correct
> (and I think it is), Claudius Salix Davianus should end his term of
> office, unless three of my colleagues express their discomfort with his
return.
>
> =====
> Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
> Gnaeus Salix Astur.
> Tribunus Plebis
> Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
> Triumvir Academiae Thules
> Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
> Lictor Curiatus.
>
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: El Estudio sobre la Religion Mitraica ya lo teneis disponible
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:05:00 +0200

Salve Quinte,

>I am glad to be of some help. The Mithra forum is a nice site and
>they are very friendly. Please let me know if you need any help in
>Spanish translation.

Thank you for this kind offer. I cannot say yet, since my uncle, who is
a follower of Mithras, has not yet told me, if he understands enough, or
not.

>I'll do what I can although I'm not an official
>translator as you are. Meanwhile Senator Pompeia Cornelia kindly
>contacted me and said that she forwarded the translated text to the
>Senate for their consideration; they are the body that takes care of
>diplomatic relations.

I very much hope, that you will receive this official status!!! Your translations
were written in very clear and good English, which, I believe is almost
as important as a word-by-word translation. The later is not as important,
as long as the sense and the meaning of a document is not changed by the
official translation!!

>Take care and have a good weekend in Switzerland!

I hope that I can have a weekend!! At the moment I have lots of work to
do.

Take care, Tiberius Annaeus Otho

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Resignation
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:45:15 -0400 (EDT)

Master Davianus;

In my humble opinion I think you have your dignity mixed up with your
pride. If you resign from your position as Tribune then you have broken
your word and your Oath both to me and the citizens of Nova Roma, and to
yourself.
In my view, no man has anything more valuable than his word or his oath,
(wealth, property, dignity, pride, etc.) and once broken, he can never
really be trusted again.

There are those who in Nova Roma, whom I am proud to call friend who
have endured far worse than yourself, and who have never broken thier
word, even though they were pressed hard. Men like Cincinattus, Sulla,
Julianus and women like Pompeia, who even though taken to task stayed
with the republic and honored thier oath and word. Without exception
these people are now honored and hold significant positions in NR and
enjoy the respect of the citizenship.

I suppose there are those who will see this letter as harsh, and in fact
I have rrecieved one such already, but as the female who wrote it
chooses to engage in gutter language in a message to me, I shall return
it and ignore her as one who is too ignorant to command the language
usefully. My answer to the "harsh" accusation is that I have lived my
life by those tenets, in the mlitary and outside the miltary, and in the
long run I have never been sorry for the effort.

Those who in the past who have broken thier Oath, and thier word, are
little more than unpleasant memories, and even though some of these
were past friends, I would never be able to trust them again.

Your resignation is your own affair, and my opinion, I am sure, will
mean little to you, but I speak the above with great sincereity. An
apology is sometimes more difficult to make than a resignation, but I
assure you that pride means little without honor, and honor is your word
and oath.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Reminder: Consular Edictum on the Resignation of Offices
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 05:19:45 -0700 (PDT)

The Edict does not apply. A Consul has no imperium
over the office of tribune of the Plebs. Even if this
years Consuls had extended the edict (Which they did
not do) it would have applied to all Magistrates
EXECPT the Tribunes.

The Independance of the Tribunes from the Imperium of
any Magistrate is a key feature of the office. No
Edict from any Magistrate (Except a Dictator or one
empowered by a Senatus Consultum Ultimatum) that
affects a Tribunes ability to carry out the duties of
his office or the term of his office has any legal
standing when applied to a Tribune.

The only things that can prevent Claudius Salix from
resumming his office is a veto by his fellow tribunes,
or a decession on his part not to withdraw his
resignation.

L. Sicinius Drusus

--- Lucius Mauricius Procopious <procopious@attbi.com>
wrote:
> Salvete!
>
> I would like to go on record as supporting the
> return of Claudius Salix
> Davianus. Veto his resignation, decide the edicta
> does not apply to a
> Tribune of the Plebs, look the other way and let him
> return, what ever
> method we choose, we should support his return. We
> manage to be divisive
> enough most of the time, maybe we can find a way to
> be inclusive and
> supportive this time? : )
>
> Lucius Mauricius Procopious
> Tribunus Plebis
> Propraetor America Boreoccidentalis
> (This is an unofficial post for which I assume full
> responsibility)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> procopious@attbi.com
> ICQ# 83516618
> *America Boreoccidentalis Mail List
> http://www.egroups.com/group/AmBor_Waves
> * The Gens Mauricia
> http://www.geocities.com/procopious
>
> Nam ex parente meo et ex aliis sanctis viris ita
> accepi munditias mulieribus
> laborem viris convenire omnibusque bonis oportere
> plus gloriae quam
> divitiarum esse.
> I have learned from my father and other holy men
> that women are suited to
> elegance, while men to work; and that all good
> people should have more glory
> than wealth.
> Sallustius Crispus quoting Marius
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es>
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Reminder: Consular
> Edictum on the Resignation
> of Offices
>
>
> > Salvete Quirites; et salve, consul Sulla.
> >
> > --- "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > <<snipped>>
> >
> > > Ave,
> > >
> > > That works for me since I am in complete
> agreement with the opinion
> > > of Propraetor Lucius Sicinius Drusus. There is
> no way Consuls, let
> > > alone Patrician Consuls, impose laws that
> regulate the Tribune of the
> > > Plebs. A veto is not even necessary. It is up
> to Davianus to return
> > > since the Comitia Plebis has not passed any
> resignation law that
> > > would govern any magistrate elected in the
> Comitia Plebis Tributa,
> > > and probably up to the opinions of the other
> Tribunes if they want
> > > him to return or not, because of the absence of
> legislation.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >
> > I think that what you are saying makes a lot of
> sense.
> >
> > As for my opinion, I think that Claudius Salix
> Davianus has been an
> > excellent tribune so far, and that he has much to
> offer to Nova Roma.
> >
> > And also, given that the opinion of the Senate and
> the People of Nova
> > Roma is for him to retain his office, I am
> impelled to publicly express
> > my consent to his reinstatement. So if the above
> reasonement is correct
> > (and I think it is), Claudius Salix Davianus
> should end his term of
> > office, unless three of my colleagues express
> their discomfort with his
> return.
> >
> > =====
> > Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
> > Gnaeus Salix Astur.
> > Tribunus Plebis
> > Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
> > Triumvir Academiae Thules
> > Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
> > Lictor Curiatus.
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Sodalitas Musarum still functioning?
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:48:55 -0000

Salve,

Is the Sodalitas Musarum still functioning?

Pax,

Quintus Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] ATTN [Religio Romana]: ante diem XIV Kalendas Sextilias (July 19th)
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <antonio.grilo@inov.pt>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:58:46 +0100

PONTIFEX ANTONIVS GRYLLVS GRAECVS OMNIBVS CIVIBVS SALVTEM

This is a dies nefastus publicus (NP), a day for special religious
observance on which no legal action or public business can take place.

Today is the fist day of the Lucaria which take place on July 19 and July
21. Festus [Festus, De Verborum Significatione, on "Lucaria"] says that the
Lucaria were celebrated in a large grove ('lucus') between the Via Salaria
and the Tiber (probably the area of the Pincian Gardens) and provides a
legendary explanation: the Romans, fleeing from the Gauls, had hidden in
this grove after the defeat at the battle of Allia (see the posting for July
18th). According to Plutarch [Plutarch, Roman Questions, 88] the money spent
on public festivals was called 'lucar' because it was derived from revenue
from public groves ('luci'). That in fact 'lucar' did originally mean a
grove is shown by an early inscription from Luceria ('in hoc loucarid')
[ILLRP 504], while another from Spoletium [ILLRP 506] shows that an annual
sacrifice ('res deina anua') was performed in a 'lucus'. The Lucaria
therefore probably go back to primitive Rome when land was reclaimed from
the forest guarded by protector spirits that had to be propitiated before
the trees were felled (Cato presents a similar propitiation, which is
available at the NR website:
http://www.novaroma.org/religio_romana/cato_dig.html).
It seems that by the late republic the Lucaria were not paid much attention
anymore.

Dii vos bene ament

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Resignation
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Hirtius=20Helveticus?=" <hirtius75ch@yahoo.de>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:24:27 +0200 (CEST)

Honoured Senator
Salvete Quirites

--- jmath669642reng@webtv.net wrote:
<snip>
> Your resignation is your own affair, and my opinion,
> I am sure, will
> mean little to you, but I speak the above with great
> sincereity. An
> apology is sometimes more difficult to make than a
> resignation, but I
> assure you that pride means little without honor,
> and honor is your word
> and oath.

Honoured Senator
I agree completely with your posting - you are right.
Nevertheless, I want to point out again, that neither
the resignation nor any action taken by a tribunus
plebis is any other's business than plebeian. This has
well been pointed out already. Of course, any comments
or hints of those who have by far a bigger knowledge
and experience within NR (than, f.ex., me) are
extremely welcome.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,



=====
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------------------------------
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] apollonia acta
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:41:26 -0700 (PDT)

Salvete Omnes,

please find the latest news about Roman archeology.
I will be back from my mission next week, hopefully by
Friday.

http://www.fr-novaroma.com/Archeology/

Valete,

=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Propraetor Provinciae Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Acting Praefectus for France

Terrarum dea gentiumque, Roma
Cui par est nihil et nihil secundum.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] All Citizens, a must read
From:	"Tib. Equitius Germanicus" <tyrael_equitius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:47:08 -0500

Omnibus Novis Romis Civibus salutem multam dicit Tiberius Equitius Germanicus
As many of you are aware, Nova Roma exists mainly in cyberspace. But it also exists as it has for thousands of years, in the hearts and minds of men and women who love Rome. We have already made the first big step in bringing back to life that dream. It is now time to start planning of gaining territory in the real world, land to call "The Republic of Rome". I, Praefectus pro tempore of the Nova Roma land project need you. First of all, I need someone that can put together a website for the sodalitas. The rest of the needed officers will be assigned later. Right now, I need all interested cives who believe they have something to offer to this sodalitas and have a desire to make Nova Roma a tangible reality to join the Nova Roma Land Project list (at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NRLandProject/ ). Please post a message stating your name and will to join. Your participation is vital.
DI VOS INCOLVMES CVSTODIANT



PRAEFECTVS ADQVISITIONIS ARGENTI ET TERRARVM PRO TEMPORE

SODALIS SODALITATIS EGRESSI

GENTILIS PATRICIAE GENTIS EQVITIAE

CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE



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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Sodalitas Musarum still functioning?
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:08:25 +0100 (BST)

--- quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com> wrote: >
Salve,
>
> Is the Sodalitas Musarum still functioning?
>
> Pax,
>
> Quintus Cassius Calvus


Salve Q Cassi Calvi!

I know the Sodalitas Musarum has been rather silent...
But this will change! I now have the time to
completely pull myself into this. Until now I had not
much time left (studying, exams, summer job, Ludi
Apollinares,...) but in the next week I have all the
time of the world. As much as possible will be settled
on the ForTheMuses - list, and I will try to do my
best to boost activity there.


Vale bene

=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
civis Novae Romae

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] message board
From:	"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:53:05 -0000

Salvete Omnes, I see the message lists are down, I'm just sending a
test message. See you later.

Regards - Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Resignation
From:	"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:04:27 -0000

> Savete Senator Marci et Omnes,

First of all I would like to encourage Tribune Divianus to reconsider
and keep his post. I do not wish to get into a lengthy discussion
publicly on this subject as I am new to Nova Roma and have much to
learn about the government and administration.

I thought Senator Marus' letter was very interesting with good advice
for all. At this point please allow me to throw in a 2000 year old
quote:"Begin each day by telling yourself: Today I shall be meeting
with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill will and
selfishness- all of them due to the offenders'ignorence of what is
good or evil. But for my part I have long precieved the nature of
good and its nobility, the nature of evil and its meaness, and also
the nature of the culprit himself who is my brother (not in the
physical sense, but as a fellow creature similarily endowed with
reason and a share of the devine); therefore none of these things can
injure me, for nobody can implicate me in what is degrading. Neither
can I be angry with my brother or fall afoul of him; for he and I
were born to work together, like a man's two hands, feet or eyelids,
or like the upper and lower rows of his teeth. To obstruct each other
is against nature's law - and what is irritation or aversion but a
form of obstruction?" ----- Marcus Aurelius (121 - 180 AD) -
Meditations.

Things are much the same today are they not? I have worked in a few
volunteer cultural associations as part of the administration and the
problems are the same. As a rule ot thumb I have found that people
who cannot help with constructive critizism, are rude, foul mouthed
back biters and so on are more often than not the ones who contribute
the least or nothing at all. In spite of all this, remember
Churchill's famous very short speech to a graduating class in
Britannia - " My advice on life - Never give up! - Never, Never,
Never give up!"

Yours Respectfully,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus - New Citizen Nova Roma.


> There are those who in Nova Roma, whom I am proud to call friend who
> have endured far worse than yourself, and who have never broken
thier
> word, even though they were pressed hard. Men like Cincinattus,
Sulla,
> Julianus and women like Pompeia, who even though taken to task
stayed
> with the republic and honored thier oath and word. Without
exception
> these people are now honored and hold significant positions in NR
and
> enjoy the respect of the citizenship.
>
> I suppose there are those who will see this letter as harsh, and in
fact
> I have rrecieved one such already, but as the female who wrote it
> chooses to engage in gutter language in a message to me, I shall
return
> it and ignore her as one who is too ignorant to command the language
> usefully. My answer to the "harsh" accusation is that I have lived
my
> life by those tenets, in the mlitary and outside the miltary, and
in the
> long run I have never been sorry for the effort.
>
>

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Resignation
From:	Caius Minucius Scaevola <pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:10:49 -0400

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 05:24:27PM +0200, A. Hirtius Helveticus wrote:

Salve, A. Hirtius Helveticus:

> Honoured Senator
> Salvete Quirites
>
> --- jmath669642reng@webtv.net wrote:
> <snip>
> > Your resignation is your own affair, and my opinion,
> > I am sure, will
> > mean little to you, but I speak the above with great
> > sincereity. An
> > apology is sometimes more difficult to make than a
> > resignation, but I
> > assure you that pride means little without honor,
> > and honor is your word
> > and oath.
>
> Honoured Senator
> I agree completely with your posting - you are right.
> Nevertheless, I want to point out again, that neither
> the resignation nor any action taken by a tribunus
> plebis is any other's business than plebeian. This has
> well been pointed out already. Of course, any comments
> or hints of those who have by far a bigger knowledge
> and experience within NR (than, f.ex., me) are
> extremely welcome.

Not official business, perhaps - which I presume is the sort you mean,
the only sort that makes sense in this context even though you have not
seen it fit to delineate that. Note that the Senator has not couched it
in official terms, or tried to reverse the decision by using his
senatorial power or anything like that; his posting seems to me to be
advice to a friend or a respected associate, and no more than that -
although of course I can't presume to speak for him. It is, however,
exactly the type of letter that I would send to a friend in a similar
situation - using very similar terms because I strongly believe in the
stand that was expressed here.

Implying that it is not his _personal_ business would be nothing less
than rudeness on your part, and I sincerely hope that this impression is
a false one.


Caius Minucius Scaevola
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"Ignoti militi"
-- Inscription on the tomb of the Unknown Soldier.