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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Digest Numbers
From:	"miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:33:59 -0000

Savete again omnes,

I see in the yahoo groups that people are refering to digest numbers.
How does that work? I haven't figured them yet.

Valete bene,

Quintus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 121
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:59:40 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date : 22 August 2002 23:32:59
>
>Whether you believe it or not, there are Euopeans in every port of call
>around the Mediterranean, bordering the English Channel and in the
>Baltic, whose flow of obsecities make the average American appear
>positively saintly. I know, I've been there. However, anyone who

Salve salvete,
Americans are rather poor at invective and so are Brits. For the world view, read Your Mother's Tongue (Bill Bryson?) on national style and so on. It says a lot about national predelictions. British and American obscenity tends to be sexual, German lavatorial, French complex inplications of strange ancestral sexual behaviours - but far worse to just look and shake the head sadly - but Spanish gets the prize with a weird mixture of blasphemy and lavatorial that only generations of the Inquisition could have come up with. Apparantly there are so many degrees of [dis]respect in Japanese that they have no insults as such!
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 121
From:	"Gaius Galerius Peregrinator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:07:08 +0000

Dear Sir:

You are missing the whole point and misinterpreting what I said.

Vale

G. Galerius Peregrinator.

>From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 121
>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:32:59 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Master Peregrinator;
>
>Whether you believe it or not, there are Euopeans in every port of call
>around the Mediterranean, bordering the English Channel and in the
>Baltic, whose flow of obsecities make the average American appear
>positively saintly. I know, I've been there. However, anyone who
>classifies a country of millions of people, by the few that he has seen
>or heard, is not in my view, terribly clever. I do not class Spaniards
>as foul-mouthed bullies even though I have seen such, because there are
>special people in NR like Triumvir Astur, who is a real gentleman.
>
>I do not class the British people as hard-core profanity abusers just
>because of few od thier Submarine sailors can cuss a blue streak 3 city
>blocks long. Similar examples apply to the French, Germans, Portuguese,
>Greeks , Turks, South Americans, Australians, Japanese, and Philapinos
>that I know, as wel as may other countries. Most are decent people.
>Some, but certainly not enough for me to class the whole country by
>thier behavior, use foul language, have bad habits, don't bath often,
>and have mny other problems as well. However, I am not so simple-minded
>as to class the whole country or a whole continent by the behavior of a
>few.
>
>In my view, the South American, Central American, and North American
>peoples deserve better from you than a careless pen, and an
>over-simplified insult based on a few members of that society..
>
>Marcus Minucius Audens
>
>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
>
>http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
>

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] about romanian noun cases
From:	"Claudius Salix Davianus" <salixdavianus@terra.es>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:54:22 +0200

Salve brodrig22,

Can you give us an example of this... according to my information Romanian has only 2 cases. Nominative-Accusative and Genetive-Dative:

N-A. sing. <fiul> 'son' / pl. <fiii> 'sons'
G-D. sing. <fiuliu> 'of/to son' / pl. <fiilor> 'of/to sons'

I think you are confusing <Romanian> (the modern language of Romania) with <Latin> (the ancient language or Rome.

Cl. Salix Davianus

----- Original Message -----
From: brodrig22
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:15 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] about romanian noun cases

Gaius Novidunus, wrong, Romanian has 5 noun cases
The nominative is different from the accusative , and the dative
from the genitive, and there is also the vocative.


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Translation of Lex Octavia de Sermone into Portuguese
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:24:10 -0300 (ART)

L. ARMINIUS FAUSTUS INTERPRETER OMNIA SALUTE,

This is the translation of Lex Octavia de Sermone into portuguese. A html version is at my office at http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lafaustus/trad/lexoctavias.html

LEX OCTAVIA DE SERMONE

I. Definições
a. "Fórum Público" é definido como qualquer sistema de comunicação onde contribuições de pessoas que não sejam seus mantenedores são distribuidos ou feitas disponíveis para os outros membros, incluindo mas não se limitando às listas de email, bate-papo em tempo real, boletins de ´web´ murais.
b. "Moderação" refere-se ao exercício do poder providenciado pelo software usado para implementar o forum público para aprovar, rejeitar,ver antes de postar ou apagar mensagens, bem como aprovar ou rejeitar membros pendendes, e fazer outras tarefas administrativas.
c. Um "moderador" é uma pessoa com autoridade de moderação em algum fórum público particular.
II. O cargo de Curator Sermonis (também chamado de Curator Sermonem) é por esta abolido.
III. Os pretores desde já recebem o poder e as obrigações de moderadores para todos os fóruns públicos patrocinados ou possuídos pelo governo central de Nova Roma, salvo pelas exceções listadas abaixo. Eles terão os poderes para usar todas as ferramentas de moderação disponíveis, submetidos ao direito Constitucional de Liberdade de Expressão, intercessão tribunícia e quaisquer leis expressamente estabelecendo políticas de lista. Eles podem delegar autoridade a seus escribas apontados.
Os pretores estão empossados para criar e reforçar políticas de comportamento aceitável no fórum público.
IV. Escopo
a. O Fórum publico sobre a jurisdição dos pretores incluirá a lista de discussão geral atualmente "nova-roma@yahoogroups.com"), os anúncios (atualmente "novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com"), o mural de mensagens ´web-based´ linkado a www.novaroma.org, quaisquer sistemas de chat usados em www.novaroma.org, e quaisquer outros meios de comunicação desisgnados como "fórum publico" pelo Senado, exceto como detalhado abaixo.
b. O 'web site' www.novaroma.org e todos os outros ´sites´ mantidos por magistrados eleitos ou apontados como parte de suas tarefas não serão considerados como fórum público, exceto por quaisquer características do ´site´ em onde outros usuários que não os mantenedores possam enviar mensagens, como "message boards".
c. Os jornais, incluindo quaisquer secções com textos aceitos do público é exceção e deve continuar sobre o controle do Curator Differium.
d. Os canais de comunicação das sodalitates e provinciae estão sob a jurisdições destas organizações e estão desde já excluídas desta lei.
e. Fóruns administrados pelos Tribunos para propósitos de discussão dos Plebeus estão fora do escopo desta lei.

Aprovado pelo Comício das Tribos Populares em 05 de Junho 2755, Sim: 25; Não: 4

Salvete,

L. Arminius Faustus

Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae, scriba tribuni plebis.

Member of Decuriae Interpretes - (portuguese chair)

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Ancient Mirrors
From:	"lafaustus" <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:07:54 -0000

Salve,

First, thanks a lot to all that responded!

> >In many ancient cultures the mirrors were made of highly polished
> metals. The Romans though really went out to make great mirrors in
> all sizes from hand mirrors to great hall mirrors greatly
decorated.
> They used mirrors from erotic to security purposes. Wall mirrors,
> sliding mirrors. They were made often of semi opaque or black
glass;
> somtimes polished phenacite (a translucent stone).
>
> Source: Ancient Inventions - Peter James and Nick Thorpe

But a doubt arose. Really there were mirrors of metal polished. But
that roman mirrors had a ´soul´ of metal behind the glass as our
modern mirrors? Or they were simple dark glass with high reflective
coeficient? I know that sometimes mica muscovita tight cut was used
as window.

Thanks to all!

L. Arminius Faustus, 'mirrorlogist'


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Foul Language
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:19:34 -0400 (EDT)

G, Galerius Pergrinator;

It may well be that I am "missing your point." However, I did not miss
your lumping of the Americas (Americans) under a single attribute
determined by your approach to the subject, and that is "my point."

I am smiling at another gentleman who supprts your thesis and uses as a
reference the authoe Bill Bryson. I have read all of Mr. Bryson's
books, and while he is an accomplished amusing writer, his views of his
traves and his people - watchng are as flawed as yours. His writing
about Norway, is so totally opposite to what my wife and I found in a
recent long term trip to that coutry as to make his views rediculous.
Using Bill Bryson as a reference to support a thesis like yours is like
making Al Capone a cop!!!!

Marcus Minucius Audens

A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 121
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:34:47 +0100 (BST)

Salvete Quirites; et salve, Marcus Minicius.

--- jmath669642reng@webtv.net wrote:

<<snipped>>

> I do not class Spaniards as foul-mouthed bullies even though I have
> seen such, because there are special people in NR like Triumvir
> Astur, who is a real gentleman.

Thank you for your kind words, senator.

=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Nova Roman Rally 2002 - photos
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:40:23 +0200

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

After the wonderful Nova Roman European Rally 2002 of the last week, I have
taken the best photos and pictures about the event organized by our
Illustrus Senior Curule Aedile Caeso Fabius Quintilianus.
Now you can see this best photos in the PINACOTHECA at novaroma.org

Valete


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Foul Language
From:	"Gaius Galerius Peregrinator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:37:54 +0000

Ladies and Gentlemen:

I am incensed but feel compelled to reply only because I ow it to my
friends,and as to the question at hand, Sir, when you reply to something I
said, you ow us all to reproduce my text and what I said. You don't delete
it, and you don't edit it, and you don't change heading either, so people
know what you're talking about, specially when you misrepresent and level
accusations.

I always thought, and still think, this is a forum for intelligent exchange
of ideas, and that is what it should be, and let us keep it that way.

G. Galerius Peregrinator

>From: MarcusAudens@webtv.net
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Nova-Roma] Foul Language
>Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:19:34 -0400 (EDT)
>
>G, Galerius Pergrinator;
>
>It may well be that I am "missing your point." However, I did not miss
>your lumping of the Americas (Americans) under a single attribute
>determined by your approach to the subject, and that is "my point."
>
>I am smiling at another gentleman who supprts your thesis and uses as a
>reference the authoe Bill Bryson. I have read all of Mr. Bryson's
>books, and while he is an accomplished amusing writer, his views of his
>traves and his people - watchng are as flawed as yours. His writing
>about Norway, is so totally opposite to what my wife and I found in a
>recent long term trip to that coutry as to make his views rediculous.
>Using Bill Bryson as a reference to support a thesis like yours is like
>making Al Capone a cop!!!!
>
>Marcus Minucius Audens
>
>A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
>white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
>gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
>flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
>Seas!!!
>
>

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] about romanian noun cases
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:07:52 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : Claudius Salix Davianus <salixdavianus@terra.es>
Date : 23 August 2002 18:54:22
>
>Can you give us an example of this... according to my information Romanian has only 2 cases. Nominative-Accusative and Genetive-Dative:
>
>N-A. sing. <fiul> 'son' / pl. <fiii> 'sons'
>G-D. sing. <fiuliu> 'of/to son' / pl. <fiilor> 'of/to sons'
>
Surely it depends on the declension? And it has a post-fixed article which may have more cases than the nouns themselves. Latin anyway only had four cases in practice: either the Dative = Ablative or = Genitive except for a few with Dative -i and Ablative -e which we can bet went undifferentiated in speech.
Vib. Ambrosius Caesariensis.

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