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	 Re: [Nova-Roma] Kaboom! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Barry Smith" <bsmith3121@msn.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:36:18 -0400 | 
 
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I've used Coca-Cola to clean my cymbals before. Worked pretty well, but my drum sticks kept getting stuck. I guess that's one way to hold on to what should still be considered good money! 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: StarVVreck@aol.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:19 PM 
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Kaboom! 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2002 5:15:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,   
me-in-@disguise.co.uk writes: 
 
 
> I have always understood Coca-Cola was the product for this use! 
 
Coca Cola is good at cleaning ancient roman coins?  I've been cleaning Roman   
coins for years now using TSP Industrial Cleaner and Olive Oil, but that   
takes years (which I why I tried to see if the Kaboom would work faster). 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Away again | 
 
	| From: | 
	 jmath669642reng@webtv.net | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:05:52 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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For those who may be interested; 
 
I will be away for three days at a reenactment at Museum Village (Monroe 
, New York).  I will be in the Federal Camp there at Headquarters. 
 
Respectully; 
 
Marcus Minucius Audens 
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] House for sale | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Joanne Shaver <merlinia@comcast.net> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:57:36 -0400 | 
 
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Salvete, all. Merlinia here. 
  My next door neighbor, Anna, is not going to come home, so her family 
is selling the house. It has 3 rooms & bath upstairs, 2 rooms, kitchen, 
& heated porch on 1st floor. basement gets moist when we Really have 
rain. Shaded yard, small garage. Gas fired steam heat. Asking $195,000. 
  The number is 1 (908) 273-3594 ; I think it's her Nephew. 
Valete! 
  -M. 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Solution to the Loss of the Forum | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Pro. Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:20:26 -0400 | 
 
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Proculus Postumius Nero Quiritibus S.P.D. 
 
Salvete, 
 
I think I've found a solution to the loss of Beseen. I'm not sure if everyone will like it, but I think it's worth a try. Here's the address: http://www.topica.com/lists/Forum_Romanum/ 
I'm sure everyone will open up if they don't like it, that's part of being human. 
 
Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna, 
 
Proculus Postumius Nero 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Re: Romanian | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "brodrig22" <brodrig22@yahoo.co.uk> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:05:11 -0000 | 
 
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Nenad" <nenadkne@E...> wrote: 
> "But, Anelpiste, with the same motivation on can said that for  
instance French has 5 cases, but Nominative-Accussative-Vocative- 
Genitive-Dative share the same endings, it seemps an absurdity to me." 
>  
> Well, I never said that modern linguistics is not an absurd matter,  
but speaking strictly linguistically, one should make a distinction  
between a morphological case (i.e. case denoted and defined by and  
with its ending, as Latin) and syntaxic case (i.e. clearly perceived  
shift of particular word's meaning throught its usage, as if it  
actually had endings for particular cases, as French might be). If a  
native speaker of Romanian perceives one same form as several cases,  
then several cases it is, despite the fact that it's basically the  
very same form. Syntaxic case is not any lesser than morphological  
case. It's just far more subtle, as it doesn't have outward  
appearance that could easily give it away to unskillfull eye. I  
suppose that in time native speakers of such languages lose the  
ability to find any distinction in meaning, as the archaic concept of  
cases fades away from their minds. Romanian, clearly, hasn't reached  
that point. Yet. 
>  
> C. Genucius Anelpistus 
>  
 
 
 Yes, thanks for the distinction between morphological and ayntactic  
cases. I dont know if in the future the native romanian speakers will  
lose the ability to distinguish between them, as long as they are  
teached in schools. 
  
>  
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Re: Solution to the Loss of the Forum | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 07:11:39 -0000 | 
 
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Salve Procule, 
 
Well done, I set up, sent a message and everything looks good. You  
may want to tell Sen Marcus Octavius Germanicus also because he's  
looking for a new site this weekend as well(if you didn't know).  
Sorry I spelled part of your name wrong on the message. A few spiced  
wines dimmed my wits this evening. 
 
Savete bene! 
 
Quintus Lanius Paulinus   
 
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Pro. Postumius Nero" <postumius@g...> wrote: 
> Proculus Postumius Nero Quiritibus S.P.D. 
>  
> Salvete, 
>  
> I think I've found a solution to the loss of Beseen. I'm not sure  
if everyone will like it, but I think it's worth a try. Here's the  
address: http://www.topica.com/lists/Forum_Romanum/ 
> I'm sure everyone will open up if they don't like it, that's part  
of being human. 
>  
> Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna, 
>  
> Proculus Postumius Nero 
>  
>  
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Apollonia Acta | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 02:28:31 -0700 (PDT) | 
 
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Salvete Omnes, 
 
Roman archeological news at: 
 
http://www.fr-novaroma.com/Archeology/ 
 
Valete, 
 
===== 
Sextus Apollonius Scipio 
 
Propraetor Galliae 
Sodalitas Egressus, acting Praefectus for France 
French Translator 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Re: Kaboom! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "alexprobus1" <alexprobus1@hotmail.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:42:18 -0000 | 
 
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Salvete, 
 
My opinion is that ancient brass coins should not be cleaned as that  
could destruct the crystalic patina and then all the details will  
disappear and coin will not be prevented from further corrosion. The  
only thing I guess ancient brass need is to wash them very carefully  
with a soft brush from the soil remainings. That is the best in my  
opinion. If the coin is dameged by progressing corrosion there could  
be applied some chemical methods of conservation creating a  
protecting patina in a certain colour. Anyway that is a very  
sensetive issue and folks trained in work with chemicals could do it  
successfuly. Me definitely not. 
 
Bene valete 
 
Alexander Probus 
 
> From : StarVVreck@a... 
> Date : 29 August 2002 20:28:48 
> > 
> >There's a product called Kaboom that makes old Lincoln pennies  
instantly turn  
> >brand new in appearence.  However, I tested it on an ancient Roman  
Copper  
>  
> I have always understood Coca-Cola was the product for this use!  
The likelihood is that modern copper isn't copper any more than  
silver is silver (sad to lose our silver coins this year) or that the  
Roman had accreted so many other exotic compunds over the centuries  
that it all reacted unexpectedly. Maybe you're lucky that it wasn't  
Kaboom for real! 
> Vib. Ambrosio Caesariense 
>  
>  
> -- 
> Personalised email by http://another.com 
>  
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [Nova-Roma] Solution to the Loss of the Forum | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 07:13:49 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
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Salve Procule Postumi, 
 
> I think I've found a solution to the loss of Beseen. I'm not sure if 
> everyone will like it, but I think it's worth a try. Here's the address: 
> http://www.topica.com/lists/Forum_Romanum/ 
 
Topica is a mailing list provider, much like Yahoo groups.  A list there 
would be very much like our current main list - and having two such 
lists would be confusing. 
 
What we're looking for in an online message board is something like 
the old Beseen system.  It should be primarily web-based, rather than 
mail-based; feature organization of the messages by thread; allow 
anonymous posting (or, at least, quick account creation). 
 
I will research solutions and try to get something installed on 
the server this weekend. 
 
Vale, Octavius. 
 
--  
Marcus Octavius Germanicus 
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c. 
Curator Araneum et Senator 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Re: Kaboom! | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:36:59 -0000 | 
 
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> My opinion is that ancient brass coins should not be cleaned as  
that  
> could destruct the crystalic patina and then all the details will  
> disappear and coin will not be prevented from further corrosion.  
The  
>  
> Alexander Probus 
>  
Salve Alexander Probe, 
 
Even if you could polish or clean the Copper or brass coins without  
damage would this not greatly devalue these items in a similar way as  
antique furniture, pottery, guns etc? 
 
Regards, 
 
Quintus Lanius Paulinus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] Away for a few days | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:17:22 -0000 | 
 
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Salve, 
 
I will be away for a few days.  Hope everyone has a safe and  
enjoyable Labor Day weekend.  For those outside of the US, I also  
wish you a safe and enjoyable weekend as well. 
 
Vale, 
 
Quintus Cassius Calvus 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [Nova-Roma] CVLTVS DEORVM; MEA PIETAS | 
 
	| From: | 
	 GAIVS IVLIANVS <ivlianvs309@yahoo.com> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:39:40 -0700 (PDT) | 
 
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SALVETE ROMANI! It would be interesting to hear from 
others just how on a daily basis they adhere to the 
Cultus Deorum and honor the Dei Familiae! For example 
myself, the first thing upon rising in the early 
morning and after ritually washing my hands and face I 
approach my Lararium and pray to Ianus Pater 
Matutinus, my Gens deity, my Lar, Penates, Genius and 
Vesta which doesn't even take ten minutes. I always 
look forward to the festivals, and the monthly 
Kalendae, Nonae and the Idus. This coming Dies Solis 
(Sept. 1st) I will weave a small corona out of 
rosemary to crown the head of my Lar statue and weave 
a little larger one to place into a little silver 
Patera to place at His feet. All of which will be 
ritually presented to Him "pro copia" in the morning 
rite on the Kalendae. I will present to all the Dei 
Familiae a little Spelt wheat cracker sprinkled with 
salt and a bay leaf to ritually burn on the fire as 
the main Kalendae offering along with incense (Thus). 
Besides the above mentioned Numina I will offer 
incense to Iuno Regina who rules the Kalendae with 
Ianus.   Later in the evening at Cena a silver Salinum 
(saltcellar) and a Patera will adorn the center of my 
mensa or dinner table along with a wine cup. Before my 
meal is over I will have brought the Lar statue to the 
table placed on a tray and will burn some incense to 
Him and poured a small libation of the vinum to Him 
and pronounced the words "Dii Propitii!"  While 
dinning I will be wearing my festive synthesis or 
dinner tunica and listening to reconstructed Roman or 
Greek music from a recording or CD.                    
                                     Is there anyone 
else who does as I do in the traditional Roman way of 
Cultus?! It would be nice to know that I'm not the 
ONLY observant Roman, or who carries the Cultus as far 
as this? DII VOS BENE AMENT! VALETE! FRATER GAIVS 
IVLIVS IVLIANVS, PGI. 
 
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