Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 00:16:10 -0000
Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "morosbe2001" <morosbe2001@y...> wrote:
> If a
> member is true lover of Rome and the Classics, then that should be
> the defining criteria, not credentials, pedigree, political
> leanings......et al. In the short time I have been on I can already
> see that that too much time is consumed by bickering and reactive
> criticism. I have seen this before and I just hope we can all be
less
> thin skinned and focus on the passion for Rome and the Classics
that
> we all have in common, not focus on the differences that will
always
> be there is we dig for them..Just a little advice!

If this is the result of discussion of hypothetical buildings on a
yet to exist land, imagine what it would be like should the real
thing ever come to pass. After reading the posts on this subject, I
have formed the opinion that should real estate come to pass, it will
be the death of Nova Roma.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Pater/Mater Ignoring prospectives?
From: Joanne Shaver <merlinia@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:25:06 -0400
Salvete, Civis! Merlinia Ambrosia S.P.D.
When I joined Nova Roma, the Pater couldn't be found, either by the
Censors or by myself. As there was no other person in the gens, I was
made Materfamilias.
Since that time, we have grown very slowly. I made it a rule that I
always emailed the prospective, gave them a little background of
myself, and asked about them. None seemed unsuitable, but The ones I
thought might be happier elsewhere, I steered towards gens that might be
a better match.
Now that the new system is set up, in which I do not get a person's
Email/address, I cannot speak to them unless they call me. The latest,
(Vibius) wrote from 2 places, and I got hold of him, and he's a
wonderful addition to our Gens. Great linguist!
Unfortunately, 2 others asked via the automatic, the email addresses
are private, and I cannot talk to them.
I'm sorry, but I will Not rubber stamp anyone into my Gens. So, until
I hear from them, or I can access their addresses, they hang in Limbo.
I sincerely hope they've gone to other gens.
So, do not think it's always the Mater who isn't listening. Maybe there
isn't anything for them to hear (or read, as the case may be).
That is my take on the subject.

Valete!
-M.

post scriptum- Elwinius, if you read this, please write to me!

Valete!

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Pater/Mater Ignoring prospectives?
From: "pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:48:25 -0000
---Salvete Merlinia et alii:

I hear you. It is not the intention of this Praetor to insist that
any pater or mater accept folks into their gens via 'rubber stamp' as
you put it. It is only directed at those who fail to respond to a
petitioning citizen one way or the other after 90 days. There
actually people who have waiting alot longer than that, yet the Album
Gentium states that their gens is open.

Indeed, the situation we are dealing with as Praetors is a little
different than what you are describing.

I appreciate your talking about how you handle things as a
materfamilias....your policies, your vision of familia and the like.

Hey quirites.....Eureka....Merlinia has opened a very interesting
thread......any discussion here about gens, why you chose your gens,
how you run your gens...that sort of stuff?

Valete,
Pompeia


In Nova-Roma@y..., Joanne Shaver <merlinia@c...> wrote:
> Salvete, Civis! Merlinia Ambrosia S.P.D.
> When I joined Nova Roma, the Pater couldn't be found, either by
the
> Censors or by myself. As there was no other person in the gens, I
was
> made Materfamilias.
> Since that time, we have grown very slowly. I made it a rule that
I
> always emailed the prospective, gave them a little background of
> myself, and asked about them. None seemed unsuitable, but The ones I
> thought might be happier elsewhere, I steered towards gens that
might be
> a better match.
> Now that the new system is set up, in which I do not get a
person's
> Email/address, I cannot speak to them unless they call me. The
latest,
> (Vibius) wrote from 2 places, and I got hold of him, and he's a
> wonderful addition to our Gens. Great linguist!
> Unfortunately, 2 others asked via the automatic, the email
addresses
> are private, and I cannot talk to them.
> I'm sorry, but I will Not rubber stamp anyone into my Gens. So,
until
> I hear from them, or I can access their addresses, they hang in
Limbo.
> I sincerely hope they've gone to other gens.
> So, do not think it's always the Mater who isn't listening. Maybe
there
> isn't anything for them to hear (or read, as the case may be).
> That is my take on the subject.
>
> Valete!
> -M.
>
> post scriptum- Elwinius, if you read this, please write to me!
>
> Valete!


Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Pater/Mater Ignoring prospectives?
From: "Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:30:12 -0400
Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete,

As I am not a paterfamiliae, I don't feel that I have much room on the rostra to speak on this topic, but being that I am a citizen, I do feel that I have my space in the forum to say what I have to contribute. Therefore, I shall.

I do think it is productive, constructive, and completely useful for patresfamiliae and matresfamiliae to confer between themselves about their systems of approving and disapproving prospective citizens. I could most appropriately say that were I a paterfamiliae, I myself would like to know something of whom I may be approving and why they have applied to my gens, among other information, before I chose for or against a prospective citizen. However, the decision to accept or reject a citizen is, as previously stated, ultimately that of the 'princeps' familiae (here used to be gender neutral and to save typing space). It is also my contention that it is not in the office of the Censors to tell the principes familiae whom they may and may not approve. Furthermore, I would most readily agree that it is a good contention to point prospective citizens to a gens that more closely suits their character than yours. To add to this, I also think that should the Censors periodically and randomly check on the activity status of principes familiae, as a technique to find whom is and is not an active or responsive princeps familias. Again, this is my contention. However, I am not a Censor, and I would not propose this as any form of legislation in that I understand the office of the Censors to be filled enough as it stands currently (hence I would rather propose the formation of some sort of 'Immigration Bureau,' although the citizens wouldn't really be immigrating). And now, as I see myself unfit at the moment to conjure anymore thoughts on this matter, I shall close it with that.

Optime Valete,

Proculus Postumius Nero


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: jo mama <minervalis02@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:56:53 -0700 (PDT)

--- caiustarquitius@gmx.de wrote:
> Salve!
> As for Albert Speer: The messages his buildings give
> are actually not the
> environment I would live in. That is like EUR or the
> "Haus der Kunst" in
> Munich. Fashistic. I would highly recommend you to
> go there and stand before it. If
> you do so, you will no longer wish to live within or
> around such things.
> Speer was Hitlers personal Architect, by the way. To
> use such architecture would
> be a severe insult to I think all European members
> of NR.
> Vale!
Speer was a good architect. Wagner was a good
composer. And Leni Reifenstahl was a good film maker.
Their politics are another subject. Personally, im
more fascinated with the stuff speer never got to
make, the little models and all. But tell me, Casear
wouldnt have approved of Speers work?
Minervalis

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Pater/Mater Ignoring prospectives?
From: "miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 06:09:36 -0000
Salvete Senator Pompeia et omnes,

Like Proculus Nero I do not wish to get into the legal aspects of the
pater or mater familias since I am not yet learned enough about our
constitution. I just wish to mention a few general points that should
be considered by all in authority at this time.

1 First I accept the fact that the gens heads have the right to
accept or reject applicants. I can certainly accept a rejection of a
gens and cheerfully move on to another. What I cannot accept is
blatant rudeness or lazieness where a gens family head could not be
bothered to answer a request and leave a potential citizen waiting
for months.

2 I respectfully disagree that it should be the right of a gens head
to ignore a application. What if you, Senator Pompeia, the honorable
censors,the consuls or tribunes or other magistrates had that same
attitude? Either your peers or the electorate would run you off when
voting or other adjustment times came around. The pater or mater
familias should be similarily accountable.

3 Well if someone with some position of authority does not have the
ability or interest in informing NR off a change of email address we
must ask ourselves if they are really have enough ability to run a
family. Again this is shear neglect in my opinion. IT COULD ALSO BE
THAT THE PATER OR MATER FAMILIAS ARE SICK, INCAPACITATED OR EVEN
DEAD. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF TIME RESTRICTION GIVEN TO THE
PATERFAMILIAS TO COMMUNICATE TO NR AND THE CENSORS BECAUSE THIS
SITUATION COULD GO ON FOR YEARS. A REPLACEMENT HEAD MAY BE
NEEDED. For example I'm a new citizen and hold no position but I
belong to the sodalistas groups and am helping a magistrate on an
important project. I left instructions with my sister to contact NR
if something serious should happen to me; that way I don't
mysteriously disappear and leave my magistrate in limbo.

In conclusion I wish to say that these are some of my feelings and
ideas as a new citizen to Nova Roma. I do wish to point out that the
Censors and Senator Pompeia were very good, kind, efficient and
helpful to me when I applied to Nova Roma a few months ago. I do not
envy their tasks at all. When they all get together with the senate
to finalize their differences and make ammendments I hope they find
my thoughts and suggestions helpful.

Yours respectfully,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus



Hey quirites.....Eureka....Merlinia has opened a very interesting
> thread......any discussion here about gens, why you chose your
gens,
> how you run your gens...that sort of stuff?
>
> Valete,
> Pompeia
>
>
>


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Foundation of a new vicus in Germania Superior!!!
From: tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:16:35 +0200
Salvete omnes,

After the translation of an edict, which has founded a new 'vicus' in Germania
Superior, I went to look for the official permit for the legatus Germaniae
Superioris to do so and I found it!!!! Here is the translation of the message,
with which the information was sent to me:

----------

>SALVETE OMNES

HERE THE PART OF AN EDICT DATING FROM MAI 30TH 2001, GIVEN FROM THE HONORABLE
SENATOR AND PROPRAETOR GERMANIAE, CAIUS FLAVIUS DIOCLETIANUS:

>Ex Officio Praetoris Germaniae
>
>Edictum Praetoricium
>about the foundation of vici in the province Germania.
>
>VII. The legates of Germania Superior and Raetia/Noricum hereby receive
the power to install and found 'vici' in their region.

I GUESS THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE FOUNDATION OFFICIAL.
>
>VIII. This edict becomes effective immediately.
>
>Mai 30th in the year of the consulate of Flavius Vedius Germanicus and
Marcus Cassius Iulianus, 2754 AUC.
>
>Caius Flavius Diocletianus
>Praetor, Senator
>Gouverneur von Germania
>
WITH THE POWER OF THE ABOVE EDICT, THE FOUNDATION OF THE VICUS IS LEGAL
AND WILL THUS BE KEPT UPRIGHT.

LET IT BE SAID, THAT THE LEGATE WHO FOUNDED THE VICUS HAS HAD LOTS OF CONTACT
WITH THE PROPRAETOR GERMANIAE AND WAS ASSURED BY HIM, THAT HIS ACTION WAS
LEGAL.

Valete bene, Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili
Legatus Germaniae Superioris

------------------

I hope that this translation has clarified the matter and that the foundation
of this newest sign of live from Nova Roma and from the province Germania
Superior, becomes legal immediately.

Valete bene,

Tiberius Annaeus Otho

Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
Homepage: http://www.tiano.ch.tt


Subject: [Nova-Roma] spamcop.net under attack
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:20:14 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete Omnes,

I apologize for the off-topic posting, but something serious is happening
this morning.

If you are the owner of a domain name, you might receive mail today
stating that mail from your domain is about to be blocked by Spamcop.net.

These notices are forged. It's an attempt by a spammer to attack
Spamcop.net (a legitimate and useful spam-reporting service of which I
am a paying subscriber) by overwhelming them with complaints from irate
sysadmins. Anyone with a domain name might get one. If you do, forward
to abuse@valueweb.com rather than replying to spamcop.

Valete, Octavius.

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Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject: [Nova-Roma] LUDI ROMANI: Sibyllinus Oraculum
From: Caius Curius Saturninus <c.curius@welho.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:21:08 +0300
Salvete omnes,

Today in the Ludi Romani it is time to open the Sibyllinus Oraculum
-oracle. You can ask her opinion and she will answer you.

To visit her, go to: http://www.insulaumbra.com/sibyllinusoraculum

You need in your web-browser the Macromedia Shockwave plug-in.

Valete,
--
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Legatus Regionis Finnicae
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Praeses et Triumvir Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
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fax: +358-9-8754751



Subject: [Nova-Roma] Going to be offline
From: MVariusPM@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:22:52 EDT
Salvete,

Personal business will have me offline for the next two weeks (plus a bit).
I haven't had much of a chance to read or post for the past several and
probably won't be actively back online until the week of the 23rd. Just
wanted to post and let people know.

Valate,
Marcus Varius Pullus


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: "morosbe2001" <morosbe2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:01:18 -0000
Salve
>
> If this is the result of discussion of hypothetical buildings on a
> yet to exist land, imagine what it would be like should the real
> thing ever come to pass. After reading the posts on this subject,
I
> have formed the opinion that should real estate come to pass, it
will
> be the death of Nova Roma.
It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its dying process
through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption, buraucracy, etc..
are all time high here in Nova Roma by those who want to stay in
power in are ready to do whatever necessary to let it stay this way.
vale optime


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: "pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:51:20 -0000
---Salve Civie:

Although you are entitled to an opinion, isn't this a
rather 'blanket' appraisal of the entire set of ruling magistrates in
Nova Roma.

I think when you make statements like this, you are obliged to back
them up.

I certainly don't mind your opinion of me for one, but it would be
helpful to know specifically 'why' you had come to this conclusion.
Because how on earth can I change things if you do not render me
specifics?

If you please, in future forum posts, be more specific about what
your complaints are..do not accuse the lot of us of crimen without
any supporting reasons.

Everyone, including magistrates, deserve to be appraised fairly in
keeping with the whole via Romana concept.

Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetor




In Nova-Roma@y..., "morosbe2001" <morosbe2001@y...> wrote:
> Salve
> >
> > If this is the result of discussion of hypothetical buildings on
a
> > yet to exist land, imagine what it would be like should the real
> > thing ever come to pass. After reading the posts on this
subject,
> I
> > have formed the opinion that should real estate come to pass, it
> will
> > be the death of Nova Roma.
> It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its dying process
> through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption, buraucracy,
etc..
> are all time high here in Nova Roma by those who want to stay in
> power in are ready to do whatever necessary to let it stay this
way.
> vale optime


Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: StarVVreck@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:58:29 EDT
In a message dated 9/7/2002 4:01:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
morosbe2001@yahoo.com writes:


> It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its dying process
> through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption, buraucracy, etc..
>

I strongly disagree. What you see as Bureaucracy, I see as the political
process. The political process in Nova Roma is designed to look at things
logically and insure that no one interest takes precedence over other
interests. If the interest you are pushing for fails the first time around,
then get back in the saddle and do a better job of refining, publicizing, and
pushing your idea to the public and the public officials. I fail to see any
corruption within the borders of Nova Roma, simply put nobody in Nova Roma
has any real power and you need real power to be corrupted.


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Pater/Mater Ignoring prospectives?
From: me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:58:05 +0100 (BST)
-----Original Message-----
>From : pompeia_cornelia <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date : 07 September 2002 03:48:25
>
>Hey quirites.....Eureka....Merlinia has opened a very interesting
>thread......any discussion here about gens, why you chose your gens,
>how you run your gens...that sort of stuff?
>
As the Honoribilis Matronae Merliniae Ambrosiae 'latest' I chose her gens for the following reasons:
The Dei Gentis are those I find myself as a sort of lapsed Wiccan gnostic most sympathetic with;
I prefer a more matriarchal system as more natural than patriarchy (though my personal political preference is an-archy);
The particular form and associations of Gens Ambrosia and its gods refer both to a historical period I find very interesting (if sad) and to an area of Britain, strangely laying claim to the oldest recorded borough in England as well, I lived in for several years and love;
Living in Ireland but originating from British Normandy, I felt the nearest alternative Gallic province likely to prove too awkward.
Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis.


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: "miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:03:19 -0000
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "morosbe2001" <morosbe2001@y...> wrote:
> Salve
> >
> > If this is the result of discussion of hypothetical buildings on
a
> > yet to exist land, imagine what it would be like should the real
> > thing ever come to pass. After reading the posts on this
subject,
> I
> > have formed the opinion that should real estate come to pass, it
> will
> > be the death of Nova Roma.
> It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its dying process
> through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption, buraucracy,
etc..
> are all time high here in Nova Roma by those who want to stay in
> power in are ready to do whatever necessary to let it stay this
way.
> vale optime


Salvete Omnes,

Come on now gentlemen. Just remember that this whole operation is a
volunteer situation with people in all walks of life good enough in
contributing their spare time and interest. At a voluntary 12.00 US a
person with 1500 people and a little advertising to boot, I see no
incentive for corruption on the finacial end of things. I sure the
ruling party is not in chariots of gold or live in Nero's palace.
Also if many of us think we can take over and do a better job, slash
the buracracy more efficently than those in power I am sure the
leaders would gladly step aside for a few months, take a break,give
us an honarary Senatorial or Consul position and watch with eager
anticipation how much better we would do.

With regards to discussions, arguements etc; It is somtimes necessary
to play the devil's advocate before taking on great ventures like
building projects. Many times in history regimes have fallen due to
extensive building projects; people's taste in art and architecture
can vary considerably. Also 1500.00x12 = 18,000.00 per year. It
costed me almost that much to renovate my kitchen, 1 bathroom, and
put in a set of stairs in my 1200 sq. ft home. I can assure you no
travantine marble, gold or precious stones were used. I think NR must
grow considerably more in population before we implement these dreams.
When people bring up various matters they are questioning an idea,
not attacking the person.

Yours respectfully,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus


Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 22:01:33 +0100 (BST)
-----Original Message-----
>From : jo mama <minervalis02@yahoo.com>
Date : 07 September 2002 06:56:53

>more fascinated with the stuff speer never got to
>make, the little models and all. But tell me, Casear
>wouldnt have approved of Speers work?
>Minervalis
>
Like it or not, while Herr Hitler was probably afflicted with centuries worth of inferiority complex about not being Roman Empire and determined to build his own, where do we think Il Duce Mussolini got his ideas from?
Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis.


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman Market Day
From: Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:11:59 -0400
Just a quick post to say Roman Market Day was a HUGE success! We had
more than 500 visitors, all eating Roman food, buying Roman stuff and
watching Roman demonstrations. The Ludus Magnus troupe and Legio XXIV
were incredible. Marcus Minucius Audens and Gallio Vellius Marsalis
held the crowd spellbound with their talks and demonstrations. Everyone
seems to want to do it again next year!

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org


Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] spamcop.net under attack
From: Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:18:43 -0500
Ave Marcus Octavius,
Thanks for the info. I too have used Spamcop for several years now and
love it. Do you use Forwarding or POP? I am
using forwarding now but plan to go back to the POP set-up.


Sextus Cornelius Cotta


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Nova Roma

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] morosbe2001 has no idea for either land or future!
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:58:32 +0200
Salve!

You don't sign your message, so I don't know who You are and if You
really know anything. But one thing I know, You are _wrong_!

Nova Roma has never been so flourishing since I became a citizen more
then two years ago. I don't know which sources You have. There is no
ruling party any longer, that party died with the the resignation of
Flavius Vedius Germanicus. Today there are many forces who try to
mould Nova Roma and no one group has the sole power any longer. What
You will see if You open your eyes is a Res Publica which is very
much alive, the struggles that everyone can see now and then is a
sure sign that many citizens really care for the future of Nova Roma.
You can also see that the "party" lines are not that tight anymore
and more among the leadership listen openly and with respect to each
other and citizens outside their own group.

Still some contradictions are harder and so I guess it will be also
in the future, because some of our missions and tasks will mean more
to many of us. As long as the struggle to decide the future of Nova
Roma can make our hearts boil, so long will Nova Roma live and
continue to grow and develop. You are wrong!

>Salve
>>
>> If this is the result of discussion of hypothetical buildings on a
>> yet to exist land, imagine what it would be like should the real
>> thing ever come to pass. After reading the posts on this subject,
>I
>> have formed the opinion that should real estate come to pass, it
>will
>> be the death of Nova Roma.
>It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its dying process
>through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption, buraucracy, etc..
>are all time high here in Nova Roma by those who want to stay in
>power in are ready to do whatever necessary to let it stay this way.
>vale optime

--
Vale

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Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT)

--- morosbe2001 <morosbe2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
Snip
> It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its
> dying process
> through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption,
> buraucracy, etc..
> are all time high here in Nova Roma by those who
> want to stay in
> power in are ready to do whatever necessary to let
> it stay this way.
> vale optime
>
Salvete Quirites,

Please Don't feed the Trolls.

This is just flamebait, a post that is intended to see
how many angry responses will be made. Don't play
morosbe2001's game.

Ignore his drivel.



=====
L. Sicinius Drusus

"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
Seneca, Letters to Lucilius

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:36:47 -0000
Salve,

I am slightly irritated that in response to my post, morosbe2001, has
responded with unsubstantiated allegations of corruption and failed
to include his or her Nova Roman name. I stated an opinion that I
have formed based on observing the debate over hypothetical buildings
on non-existant. My opinion had nothing to do with
corruption, "ruling parties", or bureaucrats.

If someone wishes to address a subject that is not germaine to the
thread please start another thread. If one makes allegations, one
should back those allegations up with evidence. If one still decides
to make non-germaine unsubstantiated allegations, please have the
intestinal fortitude to sign ones real name.

Vale,

Quintus Cassius Calvus

> Salve
> >
> > If this is the result of discussion of hypothetical buildings on
a
> > yet to exist land, imagine what it would be like should the real
> > thing ever come to pass. After reading the posts on this
subject,
> I
> > have formed the opinion that should real estate come to pass, it
> will
> > be the death of Nova Roma.
> It is my opinion that Nova Roma is already in its dying process
> through the hands of the ruling party. Corruption, buraucracy,
etc..
> are all time high here in Nova Roma by those who want to stay in
> power in are ready to do whatever necessary to let it stay this
way.
> vale optime


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Market Day
From: "pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:42:47 -0000
---Salve Senatrix P. Cassia:

I am so pleased that this event was a success. Your hard work and
attention to detail has indeed paid off.

Vale,
Pompeia Cornelia


In Nova-Roma@y..., Patricia Cassia <pcassia@n...> wrote:
> Just a quick post to say Roman Market Day was a HUGE success! We
had
> more than 500 visitors, all eating Roman food, buying Roman stuff
and
> watching Roman demonstrations. The Ludus Magnus troupe and Legio
XXIV
> were incredible. Marcus Minucius Audens and Gallio Vellius Marsalis
> held the crowd spellbound with their talks and demonstrations.
Everyone
> seems to want to do it again next year!
>
> -----
> Patricia Cassia
> Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
> Nova Roma . pcassia@n...


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Market Day
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:49:49 -0000
Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Patricia Cassia <pcassia@n...> wrote:
> Just a quick post to say Roman Market Day was a HUGE success! We
had
> more than 500 visitors, all eating Roman food, buying Roman stuff
and
> watching Roman demonstrations. The Ludus Magnus troupe and Legio
XXIV
> were incredible. Marcus Minucius Audens and Gallio Vellius Marsalis
> held the crowd spellbound with their talks and demonstrations.
Everyone
> seems to want to do it again next year!
>

I have just returned home from Roman Market Day and would like to
thank Patricia Cassia and Marcus Cassius Julianus for their hard work
and effort. Spellbound hardly begins to describe Marcus Minucius
Audens and Gallio Vellius Marsalis demonstrations. I even forgive
Marcus Minucius Audens calling me a barbarian and using me to
demonstrate how effective the gladius was as a weapon, after all it
was all in good fun and who am I to argue with a senator and my
provincial governor?

I unfortunately arrived later than I planned due to an accident on 95
that had traffic backed up several miles and I wound up taking the
first exit and skirting around 95, but was still in time for some
sausage, bread, humus, and some olives. My hat off to the "kitchen
goddess."

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Market Day
From: "miguelkelly15" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:06:42 -0000
Salvete Omnes,

Congratulations on a successful market day in Wells Maine. I'm sure
we all wished to be there but it sure sounds like you had a great
time. Hopefully other provinces will be encouraged by this and put on
similar fairs to do Nova Roma proud. I'm sure to get a letter from my
paterfamilia who attended this event. I'll be green with envy!

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus