Subject:	[Nova-Roma] For Voting into a Senator (Translation into reality)
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Sun, 8 Sep 2002 20:05:35 -0400 (EDT)

Sir;

The Honorable Senior Consul has explained to your the Cursus Honorium
and various other questions asked by yourself. The Senior Consul is a
good man, and a gentle man with the idea that all people have some good
in them. I am a tad more pragmatic, and have a tad different attitude.

In regard to the rest of it, in Nova Roma, your name means little except
as a manner of identification. The worth of your name is what you have
done in Nova Roma for this Republic, rather than what your anchestors
did millennia ago, good, bad or indifferent. My adopted anchestor was a
plebian legionary, of no great worth to anyone except as a hard-working,
well thought of man of Rome. One of a million such.

You are not recognized or honored simply because you have done nothing
to be recognized or honored for in Nova Roma, and what you have
accomplished outside of Nova Roma, while possibly interesting, has
little to do with where you stand in this organization.

You will, as everyone else has, begin with service to others and with
service to the organization. There are many others who, because they
are more interested in service to
others and the Roman Virtues who are far ahead of you on the recognition
road.

Your name does not "have to be recognized" in any way except in that way
or was that you accomplish persnnally within this organization. Your
first steps might well be to learn to sign your name to your posts, if
you have one, read the Roman Virtues and make some attempt to live up to
them, and temper your obvious attitude into something more clearly
representing service to others. Having accomplished those basic ideas,
it just may possibly be that you will be better prepared to face the
long road to established recognition in Nova Roma. Otherwise, I fear
that you may well have a very very long wait in vain.

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Roman Market Day
From:	lanius117@aol.com
Date:	Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:08:21 EDT

Salvete omnes

I must echo the sentiments of all cives who have responded so far to this
pronouncement concerning Roman Market Day. The event, in my estimation, was
a COMPLETE AND GIGANTIC SUCCESS! And this due solely to the efforts of a
handful of dedicated people, some of whom are not even citizens of Nova Roma.
What happened at Sacred Oaks, in Wells, Maine on September 7 needs to be
repeated as often as possible, in as many different locales as possible. As
I have said in the past, meeting and speaking with fellow Nova Romans in
person is the best way to develop a cohesiveness and camaraderie in our
provinciae. Ideas can be exchanged and discussed much more effectively, and
we all come away with a new appreciation of just who the names we converse
with on the Internet really are. All in all, it was a marvelous, educational
and entertaining experience. I hope other provinciae can duplicate this
effort for thier own citizens.

Meeting and chatting with fellow Nova Romans was for me the best part of the
day. I wish to acknowledge the pleasure of meeting with Senatrix Patricia C
assia and her husband, our Pontifex Maximus, Marcus Cassius Iulianus, the
ProConsul of Nova Britannia and Senator Marcus Minucius Audens, Senatores
Decius Iunius Palladius and Gaius Marius Merullus, and Scriba Propraetoris
Gaius Cassius Nerva.

>From Legio XXIV I had the pleasure of meeting Praefectus Gallio Velius
Marsallas, and I believe from Legio VI Victrix (correct me if I'm wrong)
Marcus Quintius Clavus. They provided fascinating insight into the life of a
Roman legionary.

>From the Ludus Magnus Gladiatore, Palus Primus Maximus Mercurius Gladius and
his comrades kept the crowds spellbound with their accurate portrayals of
gladiatorial games.

Laurencius Cassius and his wife Varia Cassia were most helpful in making
decisions concerning the purchase of Roman clothing, weapons, and other
reenactment gear at La Wren's Nest.

Cynthia, the "Kitchen Goddess", was simply a whirlwind, preparing our Roman
feast - the sausages were fantastic! Is the spice recipe a secret?

I also acknowledge the participation of two Nova Romans whom I did not have a
chance to meet and converse with: Quintus Cassius Calvus and Numerius Cassius
Niger. I regret we did not, but perhaps our paths will cross at some future
event.

I am already thinking about the second Roman Market Day next year - I will
stay ovenight so I can visit that charming restaurant with the Roman statuary
Patricia mentioned!

THANK YOU ALL - IT WAS A MEMORABLE DAY!

Vale, respectfully

Gaius Lanius Falco


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:20:03 -0400 (EDT)

Master Calvus;

Don't be too awfully concerned regarding anyone who would post something
of that nature--generally insulting, no specifics, and unsigned.

There are some people in this world who are very jealous of Nova Roma
and her success in spite of thier attempt to sink her. Then there are a
very minimal few who have proven themselves to be a tad unstable, and
one never knows from day to day what they will write, who they are, or
where they think they are coming from for that specific period. Of
course, as another gentleman warned, there are those who think it funny
to make comments like that just to see what kind of response they can
get.

In my view, those types should be confined to a genus of "Idiot" and
dispatched somewhere very cold, very remote, and very difficult from
which to return.

Good to meet you at "Roman Market Days", and I shall be pleased to lean
again on your expertise at our next meeting.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucious Audens

A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Market Day food
From:	"pjane64" <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:32:14 -0000

Gaius Lanius Falco mentioned the sausage and sauce that was served at
Roman Market Day. I should previously have mentioned Merlinia Ambrosia
Artori, who has contributed her excellent cooking skills at Roman Days in
Maryland. She was unavailable to come to Maine, but provided excellent
advice to get us started in planning Roman food for this event.

We got the sausage and spice recipes from this Web page:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/roman/sausages.html

The sausages themselves were simply Italian sausages from Sam's Club!

The same site has the recipe for the egg sauce.

The Kitchen Goddess, aka my best friend Cynthia, has indicated an interest in
NR citizenship despite having been cruelly used and abused by me in the
name of this event!

We should also thank Legio XX, who for five years have put on the Roman
Days event in Maryland. A lot of the ideas for this event were stolen, I mean
adapted, from their hard work.

Patricia Cassia

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Gens Minucia
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:04:55 -0400 (EDT)

In response to Praetor Stabo's invitation to discuss the Gens situation,
I suppose that I have been somewhat remiss. My gens, Minucia, seems to
be made up of a very few people (small Gens) who do not seem to need a
great deal of guidance from a Paterfamilias. They all seem to be quite
content to be members of a small Gens and conduct thier business and
pursuits within NovaRoma without any heavy-handed guidance or extensive
advice about what to do, where to do it, and why.

Now this I personnnally find to be a good thing, because I don't do very
well in giving others advice. In fact because of the widely varyng
aspects between my life and ideas and most other people my advice is
usually not greatly helpful. The idea of clientship, and being in any
way unequal to any other person regardless of position, wealth,
education, or family name makes me very uncomfortable. My Gens members
are (I hope) my friends and definately not clients. If someone wishes
to change Gens, I should be glad to provide whatever permission is
needed since I have no need to "lord it" over anyone. If an individual
does not want to be in my Gens, I guess that my responsibility is to do
my best to see that individual placed where he / she will be happier.

I have asked if anyone is interested in establishing a Gens List in the
Gens Minucia and no-one seems particularly interested, and that is fine.
In my view, there is much to do in Nova Roma, and as the founder of two
Sodalitas' (Militarium and Egressus), I find that I have two additional
psuedo-families which I am much more involved with than my Gens. Should
someone want to establish a Gens List, my contributions would be very
simiar to what I now contribute to the Main-List or to the Sodalitas
Lists. Of course, I have only a limited time to spend in Nova Roma, as
I have other interests and a career, while others may not be so
fortunate. Well, that's fine too, because everyone has thier interests,
and as I want the freedom to choose my interests, I want others to have
that freedom as well.

I think it necessary to respond to those who compliment me enough to ask
me to consider having them as a member of my Gens. To me that is a
compliment and the best kind of flattery, Therefore, I have been
pleased to answer all queries within a few days at most, and have been
pleased after determining a bit about the requesting individual, to
grant my permission to recieve them into my Gens.

Those who ask questions of me in Gens, Sodalitas or Main List concerns I
try to answer them fully, and have advertised extensively over the past
4 years that I am willing to do so.

I have possibly been remiss, as I said at the first of this message,
simply because I have never been overly concerned with the Gens
procedure that we follow in Nova Roma. I do not care for the past
arguments and grief that has been endured by those who have had problems
with other Gens heads, if in fact that has been so (the internet is
sometimes very unclear about the detais of such things). So, with
Praetor Strabo's comments, perhaps I should look into the situation
deeper. However, whatever, I do in that regard, I feel that I have a
responsibility to be alert to the requests of would-be citizens, and to
make thier entry into Nova Roma as easy as possible, whether that means
entry into the Gens Minucia, or referral to another Gens who may be more
suitable to the applicant's needs or desires. To me that is part and
parcel of the responsibility of a Paterfamilius.

I thank Praetor Strabo for her very kind invitation to share with the
citizens and would-be citizens of Nova Roma my views on the Gens and
Paterfamilius responsibilities in Nova Roma. I am sure that others will
have different views on such, but essentially these are mine.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Market Day
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:08:17 -0400 (EDT)

N. Cassius Niger;

I would remind you that the Greek Philosopher aspect of your sojourn
into Nova Roma face-to-face was something to do with a Greek name. I
would much rather have discussed the aspects of Roman Engineering, since
I am not much of a philosopher (grin!!!!!!).

It was good to meet you and I look forward to our meeting again.
Perhaps we may again engage in a more satisfying topic to both of us
than Epicurian Philosophy. I'm afraid that I wouldn't know an Epicurean
if one bit me!!!!!(Grin again) I wanted to study Stoicism at one time
too, but then I found out that I couldn't say "ouch" when I stubbed my
toe, I gave it up. I am afraid as others on this list have said, that
my manner is hopelessly plebian even though, I am honored to have my
Gens raised to the Patrician level (Grin broadly!!!!!!!!!).

The day was a great one, and I was pleased to meet you and enjoy our
time together in the comfort of padded seats, in the shade of the tent,
eating cool fruit and listening to the Lead Gladiator hold forth on his
unfortunate but quite reasonable descent into the depths of the pit of
anomnimity. His strident voice and the hot sun, I am afraid would have
made me cross were I to hve had to endure it for very long!!!!!!

(he said while sipping his pleasantly fruity wine and savoring the cool
acidity of it in the heat of the day!!!!!!!!!)

Already I am making a list of a couple of additional displays and
drawings to bring next year. Commander Gallio and I have discussed the
adaptation of a primative wooden bow that I have into a Roman bow by the
addition of a few long strips of thin leather glued to the front of the
bow simulating the animal sinews that gave th bow additonal strength,
and something resembling thin sheets of horn on the inside of the bow
staff which provided a stiffening effect. Once the bow has been adapted
I have an excellent design for a leather shoulder quiver and a primative
arrow with a steel broad-head point. The stone pouch for stone-throwers
and the sling and sling bullets I already have fairly well in train. If
anyone has any further ideas about the construction of a Roman bow,
slings, sling construction or the tactics of stone-throwers and slingers
as well as archers, I should be pleased to have your references,

My intention is to be able to have the equipment available to
demonstrate effectively the use of the Auxila stone-throwers, slingers,
and archers for the next Nova Roma Event. The lead Gladiator is also
interested in the archery aspect for the archer gladiators that he has
described. I also would like to be able to complete the model of a
ballista that I brought with me, but did not get a chance to work on.
The model of the "Caesar" is still in it's box-----maybe this year.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] morosbe2001 is...
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 03:44:21 -0000

Since morosbe2001 decided not to identify himself, I will correct the
oversight for him.

He is Mike Rasschaert, aka Sokarus Aurelius Orcus

He is I believe a disgruntled ex-citizen {I did not check the album
civiium} and a member of SVR. Apparently not enough is going on at
SVR to keep him occupied.

Gaius Cassius Nerva

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Special Thanks to...
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 05:44:06 -0000

Salvete,

When my wife and I went up to Maine for the Roman Market Day, a
problem with the car's rear brakes became worse, and rendered the car
unsafe for for a 10 hour trip to Maryland. So special thanks to
Patricia Cassia for picking up the brake pads needed, and to
Laurencius Cassius of La Wren's nest for the repair. Laurencius spent
all together over two hours on our emergency repair. {I myself have a
mechanical apptitude slightly above simian level}. The brakes worked
just fine on the way home.

If I can get into Roman reenacting sometime in the future, La
Wren's Nest will get my business for armor and weapons. If you also
want to get into thos hobby, you should check out La Wren's Nest in
the Macellum at the Nova Roma website.

And last but not least, it was indeed a pleasure to meet all the
other Nova Romani who were present. Now this event will just have to
be repeated next year!

Gaius Cassius Nerva and Josephine

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] morosbe2001 is...
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 02:53:42 -0700 (PDT)

Salve Gaius Cassius Nerva and Omnes,

it is my belief that SVR should not be treated as this morosbe2001 should be.
There is plenty of skillfull and good people in SVR and we should maybe think
about some cooperation with them. We all would benefit from it.

Respectfully,


--- gcassiusnerva <gcassiusnerva@cs.com> wrote:
> Since morosbe2001 decided not to identify himself, I will correct the
> oversight for him.
>
> He is Mike Rasschaert, aka Sokarus Aurelius Orcus
>
> He is I believe a disgruntled ex-citizen {I did not check the album
> civiium} and a member of SVR. Apparently not enough is going on at
> SVR to keep him occupied.
>
> Gaius Cassius Nerva
>
>
>
>
>
>


=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, acting Praefectus for France
French Translator

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] LUDI CIRCENSES -> -1 day
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:07:38 +0200

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

Quirites, you have only 1 day to subscribe your chariot in the ROMANI LUDI
CIRCENSES, the 3th edition of the virtual chariot races organized by the
Cohors Aedilis Caeso Fabius Quintilianus.
Hurry up!!! The Start Line is not completed and you can show your skills
driving the chariot in the Circus.

HOW TO PARTECIPE :
Every player have to send our subscription to piteas@jazzfiesta.com [Gnaeus
Salix Galaicus] with the subject "Ludi Circensis", within the following
informations:
- His/her name in Nova Roma
- The name of his/her driver
- The name of his/her chariot
- His/her tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals
- His/her tactics for the Finals (see point 2)
- The name of his/her "factio" or team (green, red, blue or white)

The subscriptions must be sent before September 10, 2002 (time of Rome).
Every player only will send one chariot.

Six (6) race tactics are possible:
1) To hurry in the last laps
2) To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus.
3) To support a constant pace
4) To lash the rivals
5) To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
6) To hurry in the straight lines

Each player have the possibility to change his/her tactics if he/she runs in
the Final. He/she can send a tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals and a
tactics for the Final race.

In this edition you can use the Dirty actions too: a citizen can try the
assassination of the driver of a rival factio or the sabotage of his/her
chariot.

The Winner of the Final will be the Winner of the 3th Ludi Circensis and
will publish on the Ludi Romani Website
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/romani and in the Main Mailing
List of Nova Roma at September 17, 2002.
There will other races during the Ludi of the 2755. The best runners of the
year will run in the Final Chariot Race in November.

Please read the regulations at
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/romani/chariotraces.htm
_______________________________
I remember you that you can choose a Factio! Each Factio have a website and
a mailing list. Please, contact your Dominus Factionum to know what about
the team. The website are the following:
- PRAESINA (Greens):
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/praesina/index.htm
- RUSSATA (Reds):
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/russata/index.htm
- ALBATA (Whites):
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/albata/index.htm
- VENETA (Blues):
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/factio/veneta/index.htm

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] morosbe2001 - Nerva - SVR
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:14:37 +0100 (BST)

Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix aedilis plebis omnibus
S.P.D.

Nerva, once more you seem to be using rather childish
methods to attack people and things you do not like.
As we all know, morosbe2001 (Mike), someone who I know
more than anyone else here, can be rather impulsive,
and due to his lesser abilities with the English
language (for which no one can or should blame him) he
can sometimes hurt people, or express himself in a way
he did not realy mean to. And of course we all know
you personally do not like this person very much
(there is no problem with that, you can't love
everyone on the whole planet). However, this is NO
REASON AT ALL (not shouting, just emphasis) to attack
the Societas Via Romana (SVR). The SVR is filled with
dedicated members, as my propraetor Sextus Apollonius
Scipio already stated. The SVR is a nice and active
bunch of friends. And just like is as said that
morosbe2001 has brought no proof or evidence to
support his opinion, you, Nerva, als do not have any
proof or evidence about the activity of the SVR (or
are you maybe a secret and silent member there?). I
have evidence on activity the SVR, and first hand, so
to speak, since I am one of the two consules in the
Societas Via Romana.


morosbe2001, Mike, I would like to ask you to keep
calm. There is no need for such a heavy reaction
against Nova Roma. We all know you have a certain
opinion about NR, but I think it is not wise to let
everyone know of your opinion by calling it out loud
on the main list, and certainly not while using such a
harsh language. As a friend I would like to ask you to
keep it calm and let it be. No one benefits from such
heavy reactions.


Citizens of Nova Roma, do not be disturbed by this
small act of hatred against certain people and their
organization. The Societas Via Romana exists next to
Nova Roma, and no one should have a problem with that.
It is up to everyone to decide whether they like the
one or the other, or both of them. We are no rivals,
and we both benefit from each other.

Thank you all for your attention.

In amicitia!
Valete bene

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: morosbe2001 is...
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:21:47 -0000

Salve Sextus Appolonius Scipio,

I don't think SVR has been treated badly, nor would I want it to
be. I do, after all, carry an SVR advertising banner on my small
TEMPLVM ISIDIS website, and think the existence of SVR is a good
thing. Sokarus' membership is factual and the fact was mentioned.

Some cooporation already exists, in the sense that there is some
overlapping memberships. But further cooporation between the two
organizations could only come about by SVR elected representatives and
Nova Roma magistates talking directly to each other.

Vale,

Gaius Cassius Nerva






--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Sextus Apollonius Scipio
<scipio_apollonius@y...> wrote:
> Salve Gaius Cassius Nerva and Omnes,
>
> it is my belief that SVR should not be treated as this morosbe2001
should be.
> There is plenty of skillfull and good people in SVR and we should
maybe think
> about some cooperation with them. We all would benefit from it.
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
> Sextus Apollonius Scipio
>
> Propraetor Galliae
> Sodalitas Egressus, acting Praefectus for France
> French Translator
>

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Mike, SVR, Nerva and all That
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:37:15 -0000

Salvete Omnes:

I owe the members of SVR an apology. I had mixed feelings about
letting the initial message pass.

My take on Mike's post: Indeed from time to time people say things
which are totally unnecessary or unsubstantiated and Mike was duly
reminded of this by myself.

And he stopped posting.

I do not think that Nerva intended for this to be a slur against the
SVR, but it could be interpreted that way, I suppose, upon closer
examination of his text.

I am very pleased with the efforts of those who represent Nova Roma
in magisterial capacities in both organizations. Their devotion to
Nova Roma is productive and virtuous. One day, one day we shall have
closer relations, I do believe.

But a time of healing needs to pass first, and is in all likelihood
in process.

Now.........:)

During this time of Ludi, lets all hold a spirit of amicitia and
celebration, prayer and hope for better days in the future, for both
Nova Roma and the Societas Via Romana.

Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetor

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:33:32 -0500

I have an idea for a land project:

1. Buy some land
2. Build something Roman on it

Salve,

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola







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----- Original Message -----
From: morosbe2001
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:45 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project


Salve Ben
> There are no projects that are going to be accomplished with all
this 'political' quibbling. Albert Speer, Mafioso...et al. If a
member is true lover of Rome and the Classics, then that should be
the defining criteria, not credentials, pedigree, political
leanings......et al. In the short time I have been on I can already
see that that too much time is consumed by bickering and reactive
criticism. I have seen this before and I just hope we can all be less
thin skinned and focus on the passion for Rome and the Classics that
we all have in common, not focus on the differences that will always
be there is we dig for them..Just a little advice!
In case you didn't noticed, the things you just described are what
mainly happens here in Nova Roma: on the main list, on senatorial
lists, on the collegium pontificium list, etc.. The only place i
haven't seen anything like this is on the Nova Roma Europe mailing
list. Mayby the belgica list to but i can't speak for the american
lists, but i think it happens there to. They bicker, they criticise
anyone who is different from them or doesn't fit their view. There
are pretty fine examples of this which i will not share on this list
on the ground that most of the people know about them.
vale optime in pace deorum

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: morosbe2001 - Nerva - SVR
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:37:37 -0000

Salve Tiberius Appolonius Cicatrix,

Thank you for your publicly encouraging Sokarus to "keep his cool"
here. That was a good move, especially coming from you as a Consul of
SVR. As far as I am concerned, SVR's existence is a good thing, and I
intend to keep the SVR advertsing banner on my web site unless asked
by an SVR magistrate to remove it. But friend, I think you may have
over-reacted to me a little bit! :} There are only three statements
you made about me I need to answer and correct since they were made in
public.

CICATRIX: "And of course we all know you personally do not like this
person very much"

Nerva Respondeo: Not so Cicatrix! The truth is that Sokarus and
myself have never, to the best of my recollection, ever quarelled. As
a matter of fact, I don't think he and ever ever communicated at all,
in public or in private. If he and I were were enemies, no one has
told me yet! :}

CICATRIX: "However, this is NO REASON AT ALL (not shouting, just
emphasis) to attack the Societas Via Romana (SVR)."

I did not attack the SVR. I stated the fact that your friend is a
member of it. And as I told Scipio, I even have an SVR advertising
banner on my TEMPLVM ISIDIS website which has been there since the
website opened on June 30. I do not advertise or link to organizations
I detest. I know there are some cool people in SVR, such as Diana
Aventina and Fortunatas {I think he is a member} and some others,
yourself included, based on your effort to update the Musarum.

CICATRIX: "...you, Nerva, als do not have any proof or evidence about
the activity of the SVR"

The SVR main list is open for all to read. One need not subscribe to
it to be able to read it. Based on the fact that your main list has
been pretty quiet as of late, SVR does not appear to be highly active
at this time. Probably a case of the "summer vacation slows". But
your main list is my source for SVR goings-on.

I hope the above will answer any misgivings you may have about me.
There is no hostility on my part towards the SVR. Some SVR folks have
visited my Isis site and have been very complimentary of it and I
appreciate that. Since you and I are both members of the Musarum I
hope we can continue to have good relations, and just forget about
this little misunderstanding between us. I think we both have screwed
up on this one!

Gaius Cassius Nerva

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] The winner of the LUDI ROMANI CULTURAL AWARD (LRCA)
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:38:07 +0200

Salvete Quirites!

It is an honor to announce the result of the Ludi Romani Cultural
Award (LRCA). Three very good works were sent in to the jury and the
resultis are:
--------------------------------------

Tiberius Annaeus Otho,
Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili,
Caius Annaeus Lucanus Otho and
Gaius Noviodunus Ferriculus - "A STORY FROM GERMANIA SUPERIOR"
- Contents : 6,3 / 10
- Roman historical references : 4,7 / 10
- Language : 3 / 5
- Poetry and dramatization : 3,3 / 5
- Romanitas and roman values : 6 / 10

TOTAL : 23,3
----------------------------------------

Manius Constantinus Serapio - "ROMAN"
- Contents : 7 / 10
- Roman historical references : 5,3 / 10
- Language : 4 / 5
- Poetry and dramatization : 3,7 / 5
- Romanitas and roman values : 9,3 / 10

TOTAL : 29,3
-------------------------------------

Quintus Cassius Clavus - "VIPEROUS QUEEN"
- Contents : 8 / 10
- Roman historical references : 9,7 / 10
- Language : 4,7 / 5
- Poetry and dramatization : 4,7 / 5
- Romanitas and roman values : 6,3 / 10

TOTAL : 33,4

THE WINNER IS Quintus Cassius Clavus (Provincia Nova Britania) with
"VIPEROUS QUEEN" !!

"Viperous Queen"

O, Viperous Queen,
Poisoning the flesh,
Corrupting the mind.

Lady of the Nile,
Eyes burning of lust,
Ensnare the heart of Caeser.

Temptress of power,
Playing politics of fire,
A fire that is Rome.

Caeser lies dead,
Your world is destroyed,
Dare you yet poison another?

Take another in hand,
Working your poison
Your foul corruption

By sea or land, Antony?
A question of fate.
She whispers, by sea so to escape.

Destruction draws nigh
O Viperous Queen
How fitting a fate.


The Diploma given to the winner is published at:
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/romani/cultural_award.htm
--
Valete

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"

************************************************
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Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
************************************************
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************************************************
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"I'll either find a way or make one"

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: The winner of the LUDI ROMANI CULTURAL AWARD (LRCA)
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 16:54:05 -0000

---Salve Quintus Cassius:

My congratulations! A fine work!

Pompeia


In Nova-Roma@y..., Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@t...>
wrote:
> Salvete Quirites!
>
> It is an honor to announce the result of the Ludi Romani Cultural
> Award (LRCA). Three very good works were sent in to the jury and
the
> resultis are:
> --------------------------------------
>
> Tiberius Annaeus Otho,
> Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili,
> Caius Annaeus Lucanus Otho and
> Gaius Noviodunus Ferriculus - "A STORY FROM GERMANIA SUPERIOR"
> - Contents : 6,3 / 10
> - Roman historical references : 4,7 / 10
> - Language : 3 / 5
> - Poetry and dramatization : 3,3 / 5
> - Romanitas and roman values : 6 / 10
>
> TOTAL : 23,3
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Manius Constantinus Serapio - "ROMAN"
> - Contents : 7 / 10
> - Roman historical references : 5,3 / 10
> - Language : 4 / 5
> - Poetry and dramatization : 3,7 / 5
> - Romanitas and roman values : 9,3 / 10
>
> TOTAL : 29,3
> -------------------------------------
>
> Quintus Cassius Clavus - "VIPEROUS QUEEN"
> - Contents : 8 / 10
> - Roman historical references : 9,7 / 10
> - Language : 4,7 / 5
> - Poetry and dramatization : 4,7 / 5
> - Romanitas and roman values : 6,3 / 10
>
> TOTAL : 33,4
>
> THE WINNER IS Quintus Cassius Clavus (Provincia Nova Britania) with
> "VIPEROUS QUEEN" !!
>
> "Viperous Queen"
>
> O, Viperous Queen,
> Poisoning the flesh,
> Corrupting the mind.
>
> Lady of the Nile,
> Eyes burning of lust,
> Ensnare the heart of Caeser.
>
> Temptress of power,
> Playing politics of fire,
> A fire that is Rome.
>
> Caeser lies dead,
> Your world is destroyed,
> Dare you yet poison another?
>
> Take another in hand,
> Working your poison
> Your foul corruption
>
> By sea or land, Antony?
> A question of fate.
> She whispers, by sea so to escape.
>
> Destruction draws nigh
> O Viperous Queen
> How fitting a fate.
>
>
> The Diploma given to the winner is published at:
>
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/romani/cultural_award.ht
m
> --
> Valete
>
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
> Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
> Propraetor Thules
> AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
> Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules
> "Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
>
> ************************************************
> The homepage of Senior Curule Aedile
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and his Cohors Aedilis
> http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/
> ************************************************
> The homepage of the Nova Roma Provincia Thule:
> http://thule.novaroma.org/
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: morosbe2001 - Nerva - SVR
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:39:01 +0100 (BST)

Salve Gai Cassi Nerva!

Thank you very much for this clarification. I may have
indeed over-reacted a little bit, but I felt a strong
desire to defend the SVR.

One thing though: if you measure the level of activity
in the SVR by the main list, then I can understand why
you think there is not much going on there. Our many
different Collegia lists are much more active. In
fact, it is in the Collegia that the real SVR exists,
and not on its main list.

Of course our link may remain on your website! And of
course this little misunderstanding shall do no harm
to our relationships. This will be quickly forgotten!

In Amicitia,
Vale bene



--- gcassiusnerva <gcassiusnerva@cs.com> wrote: >
Salve Tiberius Appolonius Cicatrix,
>
> Thank you for your publicly encouraging Sokarus to
> "keep his cool"
> here. That was a good move, especially coming from
> you as a Consul of
> SVR. As far as I am concerned, SVR's existence is a
> good thing, and I
> intend to keep the SVR advertsing banner on my web
> site unless asked
> by an SVR magistrate to remove it. But friend, I
> think you may have
> over-reacted to me a little bit! :} There are only
> three statements
> you made about me I need to answer and correct since
> they were made in
> public.
>
> CICATRIX: "And of course we all know you personally
> do not like this
> person very much"
>
> Nerva Respondeo: Not so Cicatrix! The truth is
> that Sokarus and
> myself have never, to the best of my recollection,
> ever quarelled. As
> a matter of fact, I don't think he and ever ever
> communicated at all,
> in public or in private. If he and I were were
> enemies, no one has
> told me yet! :}
>
> CICATRIX: "However, this is NO REASON AT ALL (not
> shouting, just
> emphasis) to attack the Societas Via Romana (SVR)."
>
> I did not attack the SVR. I stated the fact that
> your friend is a
> member of it. And as I told Scipio, I even have an
> SVR advertising
> banner on my TEMPLVM ISIDIS website which has been
> there since the
> website opened on June 30. I do not advertise or
> link to organizations
> I detest. I know there are some cool people in SVR,
> such as Diana
> Aventina and Fortunatas {I think he is a member} and
> some others,
> yourself included, based on your effort to update
> the Musarum.
>
> CICATRIX: "...you, Nerva, als do not have any proof
> or evidence about
> the activity of the SVR"
>
> The SVR main list is open for all to read. One need
> not subscribe to
> it to be able to read it. Based on the fact that
> your main list has
> been pretty quiet as of late, SVR does not appear
> to be highly active
> at this time. Probably a case of the "summer
> vacation slows". But
> your main list is my source for SVR goings-on.
>
> I hope the above will answer any misgivings you may
> have about me.
> There is no hostility on my part towards the SVR.
> Some SVR folks have
> visited my Isis site and have been very
> complimentary of it and I
> appreciate that. Since you and I are both members
> of the Musarum I
> hope we can continue to have good relations, and
> just forget about
> this little misunderstanding between us. I think we
> both have screwed
> up on this one!
>
> Gaius Cassius Nerva




=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
----------
Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Dominus Factionis Russatae
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
***HORUM OMNIUM FORTISSIME SUNT BELGAE***

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] FAUSTA RUSSATA , AVANTE!!!
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:04:50 -0300 (ART)

Salve omnia,

First of all, for the doom of all adversaries, the Russata faction shows all the omens to do great chariot races. The chariot Fausta Aeterna with the great Porsenna Halemarianus running for the first time will show all how to drive!

Flattery from myseft? Remember, I´m the man that alone gained 50.000 sesterti on the Ludi Appolinaries! Where do you think I put all that money? If my agnomen is not a lie, from Lewis & Short Latin dictionary from Perseus.org: Faustus, a, um, adj. [for favostus, from faveo; lit., favorable; hence], of favorable or fortunate omen, fortunate, favorable, auspicious, prosperous, lucky (rare but class.; cf.: felix, fortunatus, beatus, prosperus, dexter, secundus)

So, tremble before our mighty aurigas and see if the Victoria do not smile us her RED lips!

RUSSATA AVANTE! ( PS> Attached come a roman coin about chariot races)





L. Arminius Faustus

Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae, scriba tribuni plebis.

Member of Decuriae Interpretes - (portuguese chair)

Visit my office at http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lafaustus/index.html



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Entre os defeitos meus, este enumero...

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Praetoral Petition: CITIZEN APPLICANT TO GENS FABRICIUS
From:	"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:48:00 -0400

Salvete,

In order to set the "password' or any other function of the website please
contact the webmaster.

Questions and comments about this Web site should go to the Curator Araneae.
webmaster@novaroma.org <webmaster@novaroma.org>

Questions about Citizenship should go to the censors censors@novaroma.org
<censors@novaroma.org>

Additionally, if the Pater or Materfamilias approves, or rejects, and
application they may inform the Censores or use the web tool. Simply let us
know what you want to do with the individual application.
In this case as well as others.

Valete, Censor Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fabricio Bagdocimo" <fbagdoc@attglobal.net>
To: "Pompeia Cornelia Strabo" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>;
<Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>; <Censors@novaroma.org>; <Labienus@texas.net>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Praetoral Petition: CITIZEN APPLICANT TO GENS FABRICIUS


> We are unable to access the site in order to clear the pending
> applications - lacking password.
> If a password can be provided we are happy to assist.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pompeia Cornelia Strabo [mailto:scriba_forum@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:48 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com; Censors@novaroma.org;
fbagdoc@attglobal.net;
> Labienus@texas.net
> Subject: Praetoral Petition: CITIZEN APPLICANT TO GENS FABRICIUS
>
>
> P. Cornelia Strabo Senatus Populesque Nova Roma
>
> SUBJECT: Citizen pending Gens/Familia FABRICIUS
>
> I hereby, in accordance with Established Praetoral Edictum, instruct the
> Paterfamilias et Materfamilias of Gens Fabricius, Iunia Fabricia Batavia
et
> Lucius Fabricius Frigidaris to contact me with respect to a citizen
> applicant to your gens, since May of this year.
>
> Said citizen-in-waiting claims to have applied last year, 2744 to the
> Censors to align with your gens as well.
>
> Please contact me with your response within 30 days from today,
> specifically, October 5, 1430 hours EST. Failure to hear from you will
> result in my acting IN LOCO PARENTIS for the citizen applicant, Quintus
> Fabricius, and he will be given full citizenship, BARRING ANY OTHER
> OUTSTANDING REASON the Censors of Nova Roma may have for not granting him
> citizenship.
>
> My contact information is as follows:
>
> Scriba_forum@hotmail.com
>
> Trog99@hotmail.com
>
> Pompeia_Cornelia@yahoo.ca
>
> 87 Fields Square
> Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Canada P6B 6H2
>
> Dated September 5, 2755 AUC, in the Consulship of Marcus Octavius
Germanicus
> et Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix II
>
> Should the Censors wish to confer with me, I am at their disposal with
> respect to any questions or concerns they may have.
>
> Without Prejudice
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Propraetor Needed in Mediatlantica
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:15:31 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete Quirites,

Provincia Mediatlantica (East-Central USA) is in need of a Propraetor.

Qualifying candidates must be at least 21 years old and have six months of
Nova Roma citizenship. If interested, please send a statement of your
qualifications to senate@novaroma.org within two days.

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] morosbe2001 is...
From:	"Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:26:28 -0400

Pro. Postumius Nero S. Apollonio Scipioni S.P.D.

I also agree that we could (and would) benefit from a non-political alliance or cooperation with them.

Optime Vale,

Nero


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] morosbe2001 - Nerva - SVR
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:32:20 +0200

Salvete Quirites!

Let me just state that I know some of the people in SVR and I like
them. I have chosen Nova Roma to work in and some of them work in SVR
too. That is absolutely OK to me. I _do_ confess that I hope that one
day we all will find it possible to work together even more.

I am sure that most of us can accept that some persons sometimes
"speak" and think a bit negatively, without judging their friends. ;-)

>Nerva, once more you seem to be using rather childish
>methods to attack people and things you do not like.
>As we all know, morosbe2001 (Mike), someone who I know
>more than anyone else here, can be rather impulsive,
>and due to his lesser abilities with the English
>language (for which no one can or should blame him) he
>can sometimes hurt people, or express himself in a way
>he did not realy mean to. And of course we all know
>you personally do not like this person very much
>(there is no problem with that, you can't love
>everyone on the whole planet). However, this is NO
>REASON AT ALL (not shouting, just emphasis) to attack
>the Societas Via Romana (SVR). The SVR is filled with
>dedicated members, as my propraetor Sextus Apollonius
>Scipio already stated. The SVR is a nice and active
>bunch of friends. And just like is as said that
>morosbe2001 has brought no proof or evidence to
>support his opinion, you, Nerva, als do not have any
>proof or evidence about the activity of the SVR (or
>are you maybe a secret and silent member there?). I
>have evidence on activity the SVR, and first hand, so
>to speak, since I am one of the two consules in the
>Societas Via Romana.
>
>
>morosbe2001, Mike, I would like to ask you to keep
>calm. There is no need for such a heavy reaction
>against Nova Roma. We all know you have a certain
>opinion about NR, but I think it is not wise to let
>everyone know of your opinion by calling it out loud
>on the main list, and certainly not while using such a
>harsh language. As a friend I would like to ask you to
>keep it calm and let it be. No one benefits from such
>heavy reactions.
>
>
>Citizens of Nova Roma, do not be disturbed by this
>small act of hatred against certain people and their
>organization. The Societas Via Romana exists next to
>Nova Roma, and no one should have a problem with that.
>It is up to everyone to decide whether they like the
>one or the other, or both of them. We are no rivals,
>and we both benefit from each other.
>
>Thank you all for your attention.
>
>In amicitia!
>Valete bene
>
>=====
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>----------
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Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"

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************************************************
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************************************************
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"I'll either find a way or make one"

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:19:36 -0000

Salve Senator Marcus Minucious Audens

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., MarcusAudens@w... wrote:
> Master Calvus;
>
> Don't be too awfully concerned regarding anyone who would post
something
> of that nature--generally insulting, no specifics, and unsigned.

I responded not out of concern that anyone would give credence to
unsigned and unsubstantiated allegations. As the postings are a
matter of Nova Roman public record I choose to make a brief and
concise statement of rebuke. I'd rather be seen as slightly over-
reacting than remain silent and have that silence be misconstrued as
agreement

<snipped for brevity>


> Good to meet you at "Roman Market Days", and I shall be pleased to
lean
> again on your expertise at our next meeting.

I'm not sure how much expertise is needed to be a target <wink>. I
would be most pleased to offer my services again in the future if I
may be permitted to "sit at your feet" and just listen. Hopefully by
that time I will have had opportunity to dye my tunic a less bright
shade of white to a more traditional cream white. Unfortunately if I
wear wool on my skin I will be scratching like a dog with a bad case
of fleas so I have to avail myself to the less traditional (though
available by way of Egyptian trade) cotton.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Thank you
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:46:10 -0000

Salve,

Out of fear of accidently omitting someone, I will not name
individuals, but please allow me a few moments to thank the LUDI
ROMANUS CULTURAL AWARD jury for the honor that they have bestowed
upon me. I would also like to thank all participants in this contest
for joining together and submitting their excellent works for
judgement. I wish to request the jury's permission to reprint all
the entries at my website in order to honor my fellow participants.

Vale,

Quintus Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: The winner of the LUDI ROMANI CULTURAL AWARD (LRCA)
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:49:04 -0000

Salve Pompeia,

Thank you. It's a pleasure to help serve Nova Roma.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@h...> wrote:
> ---Salve Quintus Cassius:
>
> My congratulations! A fine work!
>
> Pompeia

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Thank you
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:18:19 +0200

Salve Honorable Quintus Cassius Calvus!

Congratulations to your wonderful contribution and nice win! I think
that your idea to publish the all the entries at your website is a
very nice gesture. You have my and my Cohors Aedilis permission to do
so, but I think that You also will need the permission of the
authors.Still I'm sure that You will get it. ;-)

>Out of fear of accidently omitting someone, I will not name
>individuals, but please allow me a few moments to thank the LUDI
>ROMANUS CULTURAL AWARD jury for the honor that they have bestowed
>upon me. I would also like to thank all participants in this contest
>for joining together and submitting their excellent works for
>judgement. I wish to request the jury's permission to reprint all
>the entries at my website in order to honor my fellow participants.
>
>Vale,
>
>Quintus Cassius Calvus

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Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Thank you
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:39:52 -0000

Salve,


Thank you for your permission for reprint of all the entries. I now
make request of the authors for their permission to reprint. Once
again, thank you.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
<christer.edling@t...> wrote:
> Salve Honorable Quintus Cassius Calvus!
>
> Congratulations to your wonderful contribution and nice win! I
think
> that your idea to publish the all the entries at your website is a
> very nice gesture. You have my and my Cohors Aedilis permission to
do
> so, but I think that You also will need the permission of the
> authors.Still I'm sure that You will get it. ;-)
>

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Roman Market Day food
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:01:44 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : pjane64 <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date : 09 September 2002 02:32:14
>
>We got the sausage and spice recipes from this Web page:
>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/roman/sausages.html
>
>The sausages themselves were simply Italian sausages from Sam's Club!
>
Italian? I wonder if these would be more similar to the strong spiced Spanish and Portuguese sausages called something like Choronzo?
Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Market Day
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:06:54 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : MarcusAudens@webtv.net
>
>and the sling and sling bullets I already have fairly well in train. If
>anyone has any further ideas about the construction of a Roman bow,
>slings, sling construction or the tactics of stone-throwers and slingers
>as well as archers, I should be pleased to have your references,
>
Avoid it? The bow was never much of an ancient weapon because all the evidence is that they drew it in front of them, only back to the chest and not the full side draw of later times. That is in part why the Parthians were so feared: they did know how to handle a bow.
Not seeing it as a serious weapon, there was not much development. The real Roman artillery is the sling, not a weapon many have much familiarity with now. Perhaps a visit to Majorca is implied since that is where the best slingers came from!
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:13:30 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : Gaius Basilicatus Agricola <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
To : Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date : 09 September 2002 15:33:32
Subject : Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
I have an idea for a land project:
>
>1. Buy some land
>2. Build something Roman on it
>
>Salve,
>
>Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
>
Optime dictum (aut scriptim)!
Better idea: buy (or lease) land with something Roman *already on it*. While preserving anything such as mosaics, foundations etc, build and show a replica. There are plenty of sites with nothing to show but foundation marks of no great value once the archeologists have sifted through. I believe a small amphitheatre has been restored in thins way somewhere in the North of England. A villa would be better.
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: An idea for the land project
From:	caiustarquitius@gmx.de
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:56:37 +0200 (MEST)

Salve!
I actually do not want to make anything "bad" other people work for. I
highly respect that.
Maybe a general discussion would lead to certain models of how the land
project should look like. These models could be topic of a nova roma poll, the
majority of votes should decide.

There is a historical critic method still existing throughout the world.
Albert Speer's writings should be subject to this, too. In my opinion statements
of a person belonging to the Hitler-regime, made after 1945 should always be
viewed very sceptical, as these persons always tried to relieve themselves
of any guilt/underline that they actually did not like the system but had to
do what was expected of them. Therefore I would not cite him
uncommented/without backgrond information that proves deeper knowledge of the subject.

Vale, Caius Tarquitius Saturninus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Event
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:39:12 -0400 (EDT)

Ladies and Gentlemen of Nova Britannia and adjoining provincias:

On the week following the excellent event "Roman Market Days" it occurs
to me that something similar might be posible down the coast a ways in
our neck of the woods.

I have spoken with the Commander of the Ludi Maximus Gladitori, and he
has promised his full support for such a possibility. There are a
couple of places where we might start looking and a couple of people who
might be willing to help.

Therefore, with that basic idea in mind, I write this message to all
Nova Romans in Nova Britannia, adjoining provincias, and anyone who
might additionally be interested in being involved with the planning of
such an event.

If the planning is done well I am sure that I may be able to pursuade
Commander Gallio and the XXIVth Legio, perhaps "Wren's Nest" (if I wait
for a few days to alow them to get rested up), and the Cassi if we plan
far enough ahead of time. I am sure that Cassia, Pompeia Strabo and
perhaps others will be willing to provide a list of what to do, what not
to do, and some side suggestions from events which have been undertaken
so far.

The Event plan would be along the lines of "Roman Days" in Baltimore and
"Roman Market Days" in Wells, as well as other events that I am not yet
familiar with in a face-to-face experience:

--Legio XXIV layout, presentations and demonstrations;

--Ludi Maximus Gladitori layout, presentations, and combat;

--Any additional Legions or Roman Military personas who might be
interested;

--A sutler area under the direction of "Wren's Nest" should they be
interested;

--Some sort of a Roman meal for the participants / spectators;

--Period Fashion Show;

--Additional displays and personas, as Nova Romans and other Roman
Period reenactors may be interested;

This is a bare bones proposal and of course it is neither complete nor
final. However, anyone wishing to be a part of such and who may be
willng to assist in carrying out the plan or a part of it is welcome to
provide ideas and buy into a possible event. Tenative date for the
event would be July of next year, so as to allow for travel to Baltimore
and to Wells if these events go off again.

---------Legate Hadrianus (Massachusetts) please place this message on
the Nova Britannia List.

---------Legate / Senators Cassi (Maine) your ideas and input would be
most welcome (after a period of recuperation of course).

----------Praetor Pompeia Strabo your ideas and input would also be most
welcome.

---------Any other Nova Roman who has an idea and some experience in
this kind of effort is also welcome to add thier comments to this
proposal.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens
ProConsul -- Nova Britannia -- Nova Roma

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Sokarus A. Orcus
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:54:32 -0400 (EDT)

Magistrate Tiberius Appolonius Cicatrix;

Since you choose to speak for the subject perhaps you would be so kind
as to relay the following message for me:
_____________________________________

1--------. When you are so foolish as to try and stain an entire
organization because you do not have either the courage or ability to
make a clear statement of your specific problems, you only hurt
yourself, and the face out of which you look at the world. Actions of
that sort are niether wise nor intelligent, and in this case have earned
you some specific problems.

2---------. When you are sweeping in your accusations you tend to make
enemies where you didn't realize there were people. I don't know you
and after your rediculous remarks I do not wish to. However, you have
sweepingly included me in your hate message, and the accusations leveled
against Nova Roma whether you have the wit to realize it or not are
directed at me, as well as others. Others can speak for themselves, but
I speak for myself. I tell you now, that you have insulted me with no
evidence and no reason other than your own twisted hatred. Were I a
bigger person than I am, I would probably dismiss your insiult as the
vaporing of a foolish young man who does not have the wit or ability to
specificaly state what is on his mind. However, I am not as big as
some, and I have found in the past that forgiving a foolish,
unsupported, deliberate and insulting statement is as effective as
washing a pig's face. You waste your soap, frustrate yourself and make
the pig mad. Therefore, I take your insult personnally, and not only do
I object to the statement as it is both untrue and unsupported with
relation to me, you have in addition insulted an organization into which
I have poured a great deal of time, effort and finance. You have made
an enemy for fair, and although I do not expect an intelligent response
from the likes of you, I require an immediate and full apology to both
myself and to the organization which you have insulted.

3------------. While I have no feelings for your organization one way
or another (I once offered to work with them and my offer was rejected)
my life experience tells me that you have wounded your own organization
deeply (probably far more deeply than Nova Roma) since it will be
difficult for many who read your vicious and groundless accusation, to
separate you from your organization. However, I would not expect you to
grasp such a basic idea.

4------------. In response to the excuse offered by your friend that you
are not well versed in the English language. I reject that excuse, on
the grounds that you have been quite effective in insulting both myself
and Nova Roma. Apparently that was your intent, and in that you have
certainly succeeded, in my case at least. If you are so handicapped in
English as your excuser has made you out to be, then I respectfully ask
you to use your native language and avail yourself of the translators
offered here, while endeavoring to the best of your ability to keep a
civil and reasonably accurate tongue in your head, if that is in any way
possible.
_____________________________________
Master Cicatrix;

The above message is not directed at either you or your organization.

Praetor Strabo:

Since you have seen fit to allow this person to insult me and my
organization, I respectfully request that you allow my response. After
that, I have done with both he and his organization.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucus Audens

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