Forum Romanum


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:13:31 -0000

Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., me-in-@d... wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From : Proculus Postumius Nero <postumius@g...>
> >

> NOT Paper! Papyrus is as near as extinct right now. (There's some
in a preserve on the Nile). No doubt anything else to hand was used.
Pseudo-vellum paper might work or some thin card made similar to
papyrus strip but bark is a good contender. As far as I can tell, the
real difference is that the ancient stuff was not broken down as far
as separate fibres but remained in one layer of mashed reed strips
fused into another crossways. Whether that was used for Codices as
well as scrolls, I don't know.
> Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis.

Many of the surviving books that pre-date wood pulp paper were
written on hemp fiber based paper. Hemp based paper has a better
shelf life (pun intended), is more economical, and more
environmentally friendly than wood pulp. However since the female
(seems that the female always gets blamed) of the species is better
known as marijuana it is now also illegal.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:20:15 -0000

Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > Text should be written in roman handwriting.
>
> I fear this would be terribly expensive, as well as
> very hard to read, since the custom of the day was
> to leave no spaces between words.
>
>
SomereasonablepersonsmightdisagreeofcoursebutIfinditveryhardtoreadunsp
acedtext.

You'd find it even more difficult to read if it were in my hand.
Fortunately I was a public school kid, otherwise my knuckles would
still be black and blue from some nun and her magic ruler trying to
make me write in text book perfect cursive.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"Quintus Galerius Britannicus" <max_vladimir@hotmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 02:29:14 -0000

Salvete,

Well once again, in true Noma Roma spirit, everyone managed to
comment on "how" you said it rather than "what" you said...lol.

I think you have some good ideas. I would be willing to purchase the
codex style texts. Please have them printed, on paper and in a
readable font. You may also want to consider a blank codex that could
be used as a journal.

I think the ring idea was good as well. I do think the poster was
referring to an everyday ring symbolic of our affiliation with Nova
Roma rather than a "period" ring. I would purchase this as well.

All of the other - t-shirts, mugs, mouse pads, etc I'm sure would
sell. It's nice to have something you can take to the office to show
your Nova Roma pride.

I am a corporate purchasing director by profession, if there's
anything I can help you with, please let me know.

Good luck!

Quintus Galerius Britannicus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@g...>
wrote:
> Pro. Postumius Nero Quiritibus Iurisconsultisque S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
> This is perhaps an odd inquisition, I know, but I have a few
questions that maybe some of you could help me with. I have come to
understand all of you here to be intelligent persons with great
command of the arts with you all have so magnanamously undertaken, so
for those of you whose arts these may concern, I ask these few things.
>
> First: Does anyone know of any good sources for the current
American and International legislation regarding "Internet
Auctioneering" and other related topics. I have searched this with
the trusty Internet many times, however everything I have found has
given me a dead end.
>
> Second: Were it made available, who of you would purchase, perhaps,
texts of ancient writers that were bound between two wood boards (for
hardness) covered in leather (most likely artificial), on tinted
paper (with the 'aged' look and feel) held together by three (more or
less) strands of sinew or some type of ancient string? It's an idea I
had for raising money for the Land Project, so I'd like the public
opinion.
>
> Third: I've also thought about customizable Nova Roma merchandise.
Something I'll most likely have to run past the Senate before
anything is official, I'd still like the public opinion on things. So
what do you think? T-shirts? Paperweights? Nameplates? Pens? Pencils?
Etc? Anything. For those of you that are shy, and I know there are
some, just send it to me personally (I'm over at postumius@g...), but
I'm truly interested to know.
>
> Well, good friends, that's all I have for now. If there's anything
else anyone has to add to the Land Project, you can find us over at
NRLandProject@y..., or just talk to some of the good folks over there
such as myself, Senator Audens, the good Sextus Apollonius Scipio, or
even the greatly talented Manius Constantinus Serapio, to name a
small few. And as I always say, my ears are always listening, my eyes
always reading, my mouth always responding (when prompted), and my
words always true. If you need me for anything, just ring me up!
>
> Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna,
>
> Pro. Postumius Nero
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:44:45 -0500

Salvete

For the Christmas season, perhaps we could sell crucifixion kits, complete with an historically accurate wooden cross. Included in the kit would be the upright, called the stipes, which was permanently fixed in the ground. The crosspiece, called the patibulum, was the actual piece carried to the site of execution by the condemned man. As you might imagine, this task was in itself was quite an ordeal, since the patibulum was a stout beam weighing more than a hundred pounds!

To keep costs low and profits at a premium, I suggest our kit include some cheaper, lighter wood. Included in the kit could be two crude iron spikes from five to seven inches long to drive through each wrist. Also,we would have to include a third spike that you pound through a board and then through both heels of the feet. I don't think we should include a hammer or maul, since most folks have these around the house.

And we can't leave out the little seat, known as a sedile,attached to the front of the cross, about halfway down.
We'd have to put a disclaimer in there explaining that the kit is for educational purposes, and not to be actually used on friends, family, pets, or condemned criminals.

Let me know what you all think.

Vale

G.B. Agricola

The Law Office of James L. LaSalle
417 East 13th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64106
(816).471.2111
(816).510.0072(cell)
(816).471.8412(Fax)
The information contained in this e-mail message is attorney privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the contact information in the "reply to" field above and return the original message to the sender. Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Quintus Galerius Britannicus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions

Salvete,

Well once again, in true Noma Roma spirit, everyone managed to
comment on "how" you said it rather than "what" you said...lol.

I think you have some good ideas. I would be willing to purchase the
codex style texts. Please have them printed, on paper and in a
readable font. You may also want to consider a blank codex that could
be used as a journal.

I think the ring idea was good as well. I do think the poster was
referring to an everyday ring symbolic of our affiliation with Nova
Roma rather than a "period" ring. I would purchase this as well.

All of the other - t-shirts, mugs, mouse pads, etc I'm sure would
sell. It's nice to have something you can take to the office to show
your Nova Roma pride.

I am a corporate purchasing director by profession, if there's
anything I can help you with, please let me know.

Good luck!

Quintus Galerius Britannicus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@g...>
wrote:
> Pro. Postumius Nero Quiritibus Iurisconsultisque S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
> This is perhaps an odd inquisition, I know, but I have a few
questions that maybe some of you could help me with. I have come to
understand all of you here to be intelligent persons with great
command of the arts with you all have so magnanamously undertaken, so
for those of you whose arts these may concern, I ask these few things.
>
> First: Does anyone know of any good sources for the current
American and International legislation regarding "Internet
Auctioneering" and other related topics. I have searched this with
the trusty Internet many times, however everything I have found has
given me a dead end.
>
> Second: Were it made available, who of you would purchase, perhaps,
texts of ancient writers that were bound between two wood boards (for
hardness) covered in leather (most likely artificial), on tinted
paper (with the 'aged' look and feel) held together by three (more or
less) strands of sinew or some type of ancient string? It's an idea I
had for raising money for the Land Project, so I'd like the public
opinion.
>
> Third: I've also thought about customizable Nova Roma merchandise.
Something I'll most likely have to run past the Senate before
anything is official, I'd still like the public opinion on things. So
what do you think? T-shirts? Paperweights? Nameplates? Pens? Pencils?
Etc? Anything. For those of you that are shy, and I know there are
some, just send it to me personally (I'm over at postumius@g...), but
I'm truly interested to know.
>
> Well, good friends, that's all I have for now. If there's anything
else anyone has to add to the Land Project, you can find us over at
NRLandProject@y..., or just talk to some of the good folks over there
such as myself, Senator Audens, the good Sextus Apollonius Scipio, or
even the greatly talented Manius Constantinus Serapio, to name a
small few. And as I always say, my ears are always listening, my eyes
always reading, my mouth always responding (when prompted), and my
words always true. If you need me for anything, just ring me up!
>
> Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna,
>
> Pro. Postumius Nero
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Great Books Sale
From:	"gcassiusnerva" <gcassiusnerva@cs.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 03:36:24 -0000

I found this site where you can order the Great Books of the Western
World set published by Britannica for several hundred dollars less
than I paid for mine.

http://www.classicalhomeschooling.com/Search.bok?category=BRITANNICA+GREAT+BOOKS

It also comes with a ten year course of reading.

Nerva


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Decimus=20Iunius=20Silanus?= <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:59:44 +0100 (BST)

Salvete Omnes,

I appreciate that this may be off-topic, but I am
receiving an increasing number of unwanted posts on
this e-mail address from persons unknown.
Unfortunately, this seems to include a growing amount
of pornographic offers and requests from ex-African
dictators and their families to help embezzle funds
(fraudsters I know).

Does anyone know where these people are getting this
address from (which should be exclusively for NR
purposes), and more to the point, how can I rid myself
of these nuisances?

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 06:01:23 -0700

Ave,

Why on Christmas, wouldnt it be more appropriate for Easter?

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions

Salvete

For the Christmas season, perhaps we could sell crucifixion kits, complete with an historically accurate wooden cross. Included in the kit would be the upright, called the stipes, which was permanently fixed in the ground. The crosspiece, called the patibulum, was the actual piece carried to the site of execution by the condemned man. As you might imagine, this task was in itself was quite an ordeal, since the patibulum was a stout beam weighing more than a hundred pounds!

To keep costs low and profits at a premium, I suggest our kit include some cheaper, lighter wood. Included in the kit could be two crude iron spikes from five to seven inches long to drive through each wrist. Also,we would have to include a third spike that you pound through a board and then through both heels of the feet. I don't think we should include a hammer or maul, since most folks have these around the house.

And we can't leave out the little seat, known as a sedile,attached to the front of the cross, about halfway down.
We'd have to put a disclaimer in there explaining that the kit is for educational purposes, and not to be actually used on friends, family, pets, or condemned criminals.

Let me know what you all think.

Vale

G.B. Agricola

The Law Office of James L. LaSalle
417 East 13th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64106
(816).471.2111
(816).510.0072(cell)
(816).471.8412(Fax)
The information contained in this e-mail message is attorney privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the contact information in the "reply to" field above and return the original message to the sender. Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Quintus Galerius Britannicus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions

Salvete,

Well once again, in true Noma Roma spirit, everyone managed to
comment on "how" you said it rather than "what" you said...lol.

I think you have some good ideas. I would be willing to purchase the
codex style texts. Please have them printed, on paper and in a
readable font. You may also want to consider a blank codex that could
be used as a journal.

I think the ring idea was good as well. I do think the poster was
referring to an everyday ring symbolic of our affiliation with Nova
Roma rather than a "period" ring. I would purchase this as well.

All of the other - t-shirts, mugs, mouse pads, etc I'm sure would
sell. It's nice to have something you can take to the office to show
your Nova Roma pride.

I am a corporate purchasing director by profession, if there's
anything I can help you with, please let me know.

Good luck!

Quintus Galerius Britannicus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@g...>
wrote:
> Pro. Postumius Nero Quiritibus Iurisconsultisque S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
> This is perhaps an odd inquisition, I know, but I have a few
questions that maybe some of you could help me with. I have come to
understand all of you here to be intelligent persons with great
command of the arts with you all have so magnanamously undertaken, so
for those of you whose arts these may concern, I ask these few things.
>
> First: Does anyone know of any good sources for the current
American and International legislation regarding "Internet
Auctioneering" and other related topics. I have searched this with
the trusty Internet many times, however everything I have found has
given me a dead end.
>
> Second: Were it made available, who of you would purchase, perhaps,
texts of ancient writers that were bound between two wood boards (for
hardness) covered in leather (most likely artificial), on tinted
paper (with the 'aged' look and feel) held together by three (more or
less) strands of sinew or some type of ancient string? It's an idea I
had for raising money for the Land Project, so I'd like the public
opinion.
>
> Third: I've also thought about customizable Nova Roma merchandise.
Something I'll most likely have to run past the Senate before
anything is official, I'd still like the public opinion on things. So
what do you think? T-shirts? Paperweights? Nameplates? Pens? Pencils?
Etc? Anything. For those of you that are shy, and I know there are
some, just send it to me personally (I'm over at postumius@g...), but
I'm truly interested to know.
>
> Well, good friends, that's all I have for now. If there's anything
else anyone has to add to the Land Project, you can find us over at
NRLandProject@y..., or just talk to some of the good folks over there
such as myself, Senator Audens, the good Sextus Apollonius Scipio, or
even the greatly talented Manius Constantinus Serapio, to name a
small few. And as I always say, my ears are always listening, my eyes
always reading, my mouth always responding (when prompted), and my
words always true. If you need me for anything, just ring me up!
>
> Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna,
>
> Pro. Postumius Nero
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:10:24 -0500

Ave

Perhaps more appropriate, but its not going to bring in the bucks like the buying frenzy that occurs during the holidays. I don't think people spend a whole lot on presents during Easter. Its simply a matter of market timing.

Vale

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

The Law Office of James L. LaSalle
417 East 13th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64106
(816).471.2111
(816).510.0072(cell)
(816).471.8412(Fax)
The information contained in this e-mail message is attorney privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the contact information in the "reply to" field above and return the original message to the sender. Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: L. Cornelius Sulla
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions

Ave,

Why on Christmas, wouldnt it be more appropriate for Easter?

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions

Salvete

For the Christmas season, perhaps we could sell crucifixion kits, complete with an historically accurate wooden cross. Included in the kit would be the upright, called the stipes, which was permanently fixed in the ground. The crosspiece, called the patibulum, was the actual piece carried to the site of execution by the condemned man. As you might imagine, this task was in itself was quite an ordeal, since the patibulum was a stout beam weighing more than a hundred pounds!

To keep costs low and profits at a premium, I suggest our kit include some cheaper, lighter wood. Included in the kit could be two crude iron spikes from five to seven inches long to drive through each wrist. Also,we would have to include a third spike that you pound through a board and then through both heels of the feet. I don't think we should include a hammer or maul, since most folks have these around the house.

And we can't leave out the little seat, known as a sedile,attached to the front of the cross, about halfway down.
We'd have to put a disclaimer in there explaining that the kit is for educational purposes, and not to be actually used on friends, family, pets, or condemned criminals.

Let me know what you all think.

Vale

G.B. Agricola

The Law Office of James L. LaSalle
417 East 13th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64106
(816).471.2111
(816).510.0072(cell)
(816).471.8412(Fax)
The information contained in this e-mail message is attorney privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the contact information in the "reply to" field above and return the original message to the sender. Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Quintus Galerius Britannicus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions

Salvete,

Well once again, in true Noma Roma spirit, everyone managed to
comment on "how" you said it rather than "what" you said...lol.

I think you have some good ideas. I would be willing to purchase the
codex style texts. Please have them printed, on paper and in a
readable font. You may also want to consider a blank codex that could
be used as a journal.

I think the ring idea was good as well. I do think the poster was
referring to an everyday ring symbolic of our affiliation with Nova
Roma rather than a "period" ring. I would purchase this as well.

All of the other - t-shirts, mugs, mouse pads, etc I'm sure would
sell. It's nice to have something you can take to the office to show
your Nova Roma pride.

I am a corporate purchasing director by profession, if there's
anything I can help you with, please let me know.

Good luck!

Quintus Galerius Britannicus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@g...>
wrote:
> Pro. Postumius Nero Quiritibus Iurisconsultisque S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
> This is perhaps an odd inquisition, I know, but I have a few
questions that maybe some of you could help me with. I have come to
understand all of you here to be intelligent persons with great
command of the arts with you all have so magnanamously undertaken, so
for those of you whose arts these may concern, I ask these few things.
>
> First: Does anyone know of any good sources for the current
American and International legislation regarding "Internet
Auctioneering" and other related topics. I have searched this with
the trusty Internet many times, however everything I have found has
given me a dead end.
>
> Second: Were it made available, who of you would purchase, perhaps,
texts of ancient writers that were bound between two wood boards (for
hardness) covered in leather (most likely artificial), on tinted
paper (with the 'aged' look and feel) held together by three (more or
less) strands of sinew or some type of ancient string? It's an idea I
had for raising money for the Land Project, so I'd like the public
opinion.
>
> Third: I've also thought about customizable Nova Roma merchandise.
Something I'll most likely have to run past the Senate before
anything is official, I'd still like the public opinion on things. So
what do you think? T-shirts? Paperweights? Nameplates? Pens? Pencils?
Etc? Anything. For those of you that are shy, and I know there are
some, just send it to me personally (I'm over at postumius@g...), but
I'm truly interested to know.
>
> Well, good friends, that's all I have for now. If there's anything
else anyone has to add to the Land Project, you can find us over at
NRLandProject@y..., or just talk to some of the good folks over there
such as myself, Senator Audens, the good Sextus Apollonius Scipio, or
even the greatly talented Manius Constantinus Serapio, to name a
small few. And as I always say, my ears are always listening, my eyes
always reading, my mouth always responding (when prompted), and my
words always true. If you need me for anything, just ring me up!
>
> Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna,
>
> Pro. Postumius Nero
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Golden Mummies in Roman Egypt
From:	"mjk" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:59:43 -0600

Salvete omnes,

Yesterday there was a good program on the Canadian Discovery CHANNEL
on the Golden Romano Greek mummies at the Baharyia oasis in Egypt.
I'll post a site which explains it all:

http://www.guardians.net/hawass/Valley_of_the_Golden_Mummies.htm

The latest news I got from the program was that some of the DNA was
taken from the mummies and tested at an ancient DNA lab in Thunder
Bay, Ontario, Canada. They were speculating that these mummies were
Greek or Roman or mixed people who had adopted the Egyptian religion.
To their surprise, they found the DNA was that of a 100% ancient
Egyptian, the same people who built the pyramids. Now you cannot say
much from 3 or 4 individuals but it is possible that the various
races and religions; at least in the higher classes did not intermix
like previously thought.

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Scriba Praefectae

AFRICA SEPTENTRIONALIS
http://www.geocities.com/africa_septentrionalis/index.html

PAX ROMANA

Scriba Praefecti

AFRICA SEPTENTRIONALIS
http://www.geocities.com/africa_septentrionalis/index.html

PAX ROMANA

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	Kristoffer From <from@darkeye.net>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:54:44 +0200

Decimus Iunius Silanus wrote:
> Does anyone know where these people are getting this
> address from (which should be exclusively for NR
> purposes), and more to the point, how can I rid myself
> of these nuisances?

Salve, Decime Iuni Silane.

This is because a number of our populace are infected with one or
another of a few e-mail virii going around, sending e-mails from that
person TO persons on his address list FROM people on his address list.
This is rather simple to fake, and difficult to recognise as false
unless you know what you're looking for. Unfortunately, there is very
little you can do to prevent this, as you are not infected nor have you
done anything to cause this. Now that your e-mail is in the hands of the
advertisers, you'd be getting these spam mail even if the NR citizen(s)
afflicted by the virus had it and preferably Outlook removed from their
computer(s).

To all of you Windows users: PLEASE do not use Outlook for e-mail. It's
BAD and almost the ONLY way most virii are spread. Use Netscape
Messenger or any other of the free programs out there instead, just stay
away from Outlook.

To all of you: Please check your computer for virii. Download a 30-day
shareware version of a virus program, if nothing else. Cleanse your
system of virii, then NEVER open attachments you're not SURE are safe
EVER AGAIN. And turn off Macros in all your applications, as they're a
close second after Outlook in spreading virii.

Sorry 'bout the rant, folks...I'm getting more spam mail every day, and
have been seriously considering leaving this mailing list and getting a
new e-mail addy to escape it.

Vale, Titus Octavius Pius.


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:53:23 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>
>
>environmentally friendly than wood pulp. However since the female
>(seems that the female always gets blamed) of the species is better
>known as marijuana it is now also illegal.
>
I'm surprised it is isn't too much like cloth but it is not illegal everywhere. In fact there is an EU subsidy for growing the right sort of hemp (and enterprising farmers can no doubt fill the middle of the field with the wrong sort just as they did with tomatoes). I haven't heard of its use for paper but there is considerable interst in returning to it for rope and sacking as cheaper than plastic and degradable.
Vibious Ambrosius Caesariensis.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Decimus=20Iunius=20Silanus?= <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:51:08 +0100 (BST)

Salve Tite Octavi,

I appreciate your reply. So what do I do now?...at the
moment this intrusive mail is only a trickle but it is
getting worse. You intimate that I need to change my
email address. Is this correct?

Vale

Silanus.

Salve, Decime Iuni Silane. 
 
This is because a number of our populace are infected
with one or 
another of a few e-mail virii going around, sending
e-mails from that 
person TO persons on his address list FROM people on
his address list. 
This is rather simple to fake, and difficult to
recognise as false 
unless you know what you're looking for.
Unfortunately, there is very 
little you can do to prevent this, as you are not
infected nor have you 
done anything to cause this. Now that your e-mail is
in the hands of the 
advertisers, you'd be getting these spam mail even if
the NR citizen(s) 
afflicted by the virus had it and preferably Outlook
removed from their 
computer(s). 
 
To all of you Windows users: PLEASE do not use Outlook
for e-mail. It's 
BAD and almost the ONLY way most virii are spread. Use
Netscape 
Messenger or any other of the free programs out there
instead, just stay 
away from Outlook. 
 
To all of you: Please check your computer for virii.
Download a 30-day 
shareware version of a virus program, if nothing else.
Cleanse your 
system of virii, then NEVER open attachments you're
not SURE are safe 
EVER AGAIN. And turn off Macros in all your
applications, as they're a 
close second after Outlook in spreading virii. 
 
Sorry 'bout the rant, folks...I'm getting more spam
mail every day, and 
have been seriously considering leaving this mailing
list and getting a 
new e-mail addy to escape it. 
 
Vale, Titus Octavius Pius. 
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:09:45 -0500 (CDT)

Salve Tite Octavi,

> Sorry 'bout the rant, folks...I'm getting more spam mail every day, and
> have been seriously considering leaving this mailing list and getting a
> new e-mail addy to escape it.

I begain using Spam Assassin (spamassassin.org) about a month ago, and
it now captures upwards of 50 spams a day - typically only one or two
slip through. Worms/Viri are trapped as well.

Spam Assassin has hundreds of conditions, each with a score attached
to it. Most of these conditions are based on analyzing the text,
for simple things like words commonly used by spammers (V!agra, H-G-H,
l0litas, $$$$$, etc), phrases they use (CLICK HERE, this is not spam,
free trial offer), suspicious HTML (big red blinking text, image URLs
with tags (big random numbers) in them)... these conditions each have
a score assigned to them, sometimes positive, sometimes negative; if
the total point value of a message is greater than 5.0, it's labeled
as spam.

After deploying Spam Assassin, I was still getting Klez and other
Microsoft infestations that were not being filtered... by putting a
score of 10.0 on the test "MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE", SpamAssassin now
stops these - anything with a Microsoft EXE file in it (even if that
file is disguised as something else) is automatically blocked.

It works as a filter, invoked by procmail (the general mail processing
tool). After sorting all list mail into appropriate folders, everything
else falls through to the two procmail recipies at the bottom.

This one means to send everything through spamassassin, except those
with From lines containing a few trusted names:

:0fw
* !^From:.*(cert.org|aclu|ttaylor|ciec|root@|apache|000domain|[etc]).*
| /usr/local/bin/spamassassin

Then, processing continues, with the message as altered by spamassassin -
it looks for the "X-Spam-Status" header that spamassassin inserted:

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
Lists/assassinated

...and if it finds it, places it in a folder called "assassinated", with
others of its kind.

For me, thus far, it's been about 98% effective - far better than any
other method I've tried.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Scribae Appointment, NRLandProject, Finance Office
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@mailservice.ms>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:22:53 +0200

Salvete Omnes,

I hereby appoint Gaia Fabia Livia and Gaius Basilicatus Agricola as Scribae for
the NRLandProject Finance Office.
As officials of The NRLandProject, they are asked to swear the public Oath
within one week of their appointment:

http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/lex99191002.html

The Oath must be published on the NovaRoma Main list, the Egressus list and the
NRLandProject list.

These appointments become effective immediately.

Valete,

--
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France
Scriba Explorator Primus Academiae Thules
Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae
French Translator

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Back
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Hirtius=20Helveticus?=" <hirtius75ch@yahoo.de>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:05:12 +0200 (CEST)

Salvete Quirites

I am now back from my long study trip to England and
will therefore be able to read postings again.

Valete bene,

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	Kristoffer From <from@darkeye.net>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 19:01:10 +0200

Decimus Iunius Silanus wrote:
> I appreciate your reply. So what do I do now?...at the
> moment this intrusive mail is only a trickle but it is
> getting worse. You intimate that I need to change my
> email address. Is this correct?

Salve, Decime Iuni Silane.

Partially, yes. However, if you just changed your address, it'd just
take a while before you started getting spam again, as long as you keep
sending e-mails to people who are infected or to lists those people
subscribe to. Nobody can be clean unless everybody are. Changing your
e-mail without having the "guilty" parties remove the virii and protect
their systems will do nothing but delay the symptoms. So, until further
notice, either follow the consul's advice on spamassassin (Sounds like a
good idea, thanks pater.), find some alternate vendor for the same
services, or just live with it. Perhaps changing your e-mail every once
in a while, as the spam gets too overwhelming.

Vale, Titus Octavius Pius.


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office, Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
From:	scipio_apollonius@mailservice.ms
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:12:53 +0200

Salvete Omnes,

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova
Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status
as the State Religion.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) further swear
to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of
the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and
favor, do I accept the position of Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules and
all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete,

--
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae
French Translator

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] RUSSATA!! LUDI CIRCENSES RUSSATA!!
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:32:52 +0100 (BST)

Salvete!

New Ludi Circenses are coming up...

The crowd once again goes to the racing track to view
their favorites...

AND THE RED 'ARMADA' MUST BE PRESENT AGAIN!

All Russata drivers, please subscribe your best
chariots! We need to win this one!

We will take revenge on the Greens who already won too
much ;-)

Take part in the next Ludi Circenses, support Factio
Russata!! The Reds!!!

New drivers are also welcome - we also have a mailing
list for our Factio; just let me knnow if you want to
join.

RUSSATA FOREVER!!

Valete bene

=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
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Aedilis Plebis
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
Dominus Factionis Russatae
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
***HORUM OMNIUM FORTISSIME SUNT BELGAE***

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Ethics of slavery (WAS: On the question of personal accusation)
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Johnston?= <jamiekjohnston@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:22:26 +0100 (BST)

Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis wrote:

> Ironically since I believe the one people most likely to be regarded as racially
> natural slaves were the Teutons.

Of course another, more pragmatic dimension to the Roman view of slavery, again linked to race, is that some racial groups were seen as making good slaves because of their skills and disposition. I recall Cicero mentioning in a letter a propos Caesar's expedition to Britain that the people there were too boisterous and uncivilized to make good slaves. So I suppose they might well have used criteria like these to argue that some people were 'natural' slaves. Of course one wonders what a Roman matron would have said if it was suggested to her that, being blessed with many domestic skills and a pleasant and mild nature, she would make an excellent slave. I suspect that, if pushed on such points of logic, many Romans might have been forced to admit that in fact anyone might be a slave but for the vagaries of fortune.

Jamie

www.strategikon.org

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Survey of CitizenTalents
From:	"Timothy P. Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:04:45 -0000

Savle,

I know that the land project is on going and it might be some time
before we have a place to call Rome, but have the Censors ( or any
one else) ever done a survey of what the citizens of Nova Roma do in
the Macro world?

Do we have any urban planners? Do we have any architects? Do we have
citizens who can design and build a water system. Do we have people
who could start a culinary school in New Rome? Yes we can hire people
to do these thing but what talents do our citizens have. I for one am
a school teacher are there others? Just someting to get a discussion
going.

Vale,

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Medatlantica Pro., Nova Roma


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Apollo_Palatino?=
From:	"=?utf-8?Q?sa-mann@libero.it?=" <sa-mann@libero.it>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:09:58 +0200

Salvete omnes

I would like to remind all citizens that tomorrow VII Id Oct is the
anniversary day of the dedication of the temple of Apollo Palatino.
It is important in many regards: the Senate of Rome used to gather in
there very often, or otherwise in the nearby libraries. The temple and
the libraries faced the square which was considered the so called
Square Rome, something linked whith Romulus foundation.
Moreover in the basement of Apollo's statue were kept the Libri
Sibillini.
Such an important building, with such an important meaning, should be
remembered in my opinion and eventually recorded in the Calendar, I
suggest.
In any case let us all honour Apollo, Diana and Latona, the deities
there honoured.

Bene valete omnes

Gallus Solaris Alexander

P.S.: Being very ignorant of computer's world I would like to be
certain that my posting really works. Can anybody help with a little
confirmation?


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Inquisitions
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:19:21 EDT

In a message dated 10/7/02 12:44:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
equitius_marinus@yahoo.com writes:

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> SomereasonablepersonsmightdisagreeofcoursebutIfinditveryhardtoreadunspacedtext.
>

SALVETEIHAVE
BEENDOINGTHISSOLONGIHAVENOPROBLEMINDOINGSOANYSCHOLAROFNOVAROMASHOULDBEABLETOHA

NDLETHISVALE
QFM

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Freedom of Speech
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:27:49 EDT

In a message dated 10/7/02 1:44:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
sa-mann@libero.it writes:

> . I don't think we would have the same esteem of
> Caesar, Augustus or Numa Pompilio

Salvete.
Please, Roman morality and ours are completely different. If we were to go
back to the Roman's concept of morality, this list would be a lot more
"saltier" place.
You my friend are an idealist which in itself is wonderful. However Romans
were pragmatic and enjoyed life. The archaeological evidence bears that out
as well as literature from the periods.
Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Apollo Palatino
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:35:12 -0600

Ave,

Your message has been received :-).

Vale,
Aeternia

-----Original Message-----
From: sa-mann@libero.it [mailto:sa-mann@libero.it]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:10 AM
To: nova-roma
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Apollo Palatino

Salvete omnes

I would like to remind all citizens that tomorrow VII Id Oct is the
anniversary day of the dedication of the temple of Apollo Palatino.
It is important in many regards: the Senate of Rome used to gather
in
there very often, or otherwise in the nearby libraries. The temple
and
the libraries faced the square which was considered the so called
Square Rome, something linked whith Romulus foundation.
Moreover in the basement of Apollo's statue were kept the Libri
Sibillini.
Such an important building, with such an important meaning, should
be
remembered in my opinion and eventually recorded in the Calendar, I
suggest.
In any case let us all honour Apollo, Diana and Latona, the deities
there honoured.

Bene valete omnes

Gallus Solaris Alexander

P.S.: Being very ignorant of computer's world I would like to be
certain that my posting really works. Can anybody help with a little

confirmation?


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: unwanted mail
From:	Arnamentia Aurelia <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT)

Salve Decimus Iunius,

I am pretty sure this has something to do with being
part of a Yahoo discussion group, as I am getting some
spam in my inbox too, and I don't use the email
address for anything but Yahoo groups.

Valete,
Arnamentia Aurelia

Message: 18
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:59:44 +0100 (BST)
From: Decimus Iunius Silanus
<danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Unwanted mail

Salvete Omnes,

I appreciate that this may be off-topic, but I am
receiving an increasing number of unwanted posts on
this e-mail address from persons unknown.
Unfortunately, this seems to include a growing amount
of pornographic offers and requests from ex-African
dictators and their families to help embezzle funds
(fraudsters I know).

Does anyone know where these people are getting this
address from (which should be exclusively for NR
purposes), and more to the point, how can I rid myself
of these nuisances?

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Curule Aedile
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:39:39 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete Cives Novae Romae,

We now have four candidates for the position of Curule Aedile Suffectus:

Gaius Cassius Nerva
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Decimus Iunius Silanus
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Others are still welcome to apply. The final choice will be made by
the Senate.

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:08:10 EDT

In a message dated 10/7/02 8:50:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jlasalle@kc.rr.com writes:

> For the Christmas season, perhaps we could sell crucifixion kits, complete
> with an historically accurate wooden cross.
SPD
Well why just Christmas? The Principate "fixed" criminals all year long.
Oh you were joking...ha ha ha.
Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office, Scriba Explorator Primus Academiae Thules
From:	scipio_apollonius@mailservice.ms
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:17:33 +0200

Salvete Omnes,

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova
Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status
as the State Religion.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) further swear
to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Scriba Explorator Primus Academiae Thules to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of
the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and
favor, do I accept the position of Scriba Explorator Primus Academiae Thules
and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete,

--
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae
French Translator

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Inquisitions
From:	"Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:10:17 -0400

PROCVLVSPOSTVMIVSNERODRVSVSSEPVLCHRATVSQVINTOFABIOMAXIMOSENATORIPROCONSVLARI
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:42:14 -0500

Salve,
You can go to Spamcop and set-up an account with them. It
will cost $30(US) but you get a POP3/Forwarding and WebMail
and mail is scanned by a Virus checker. It has eliminated
about 98% of my spam. I use it all the time.

Vale,
Sextus Cornelius Cotta


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Inquisitions
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:41:25 EDT

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PS
SOMETIMES*ROMAN*ENGRAVERS*PUT*DOTS*IN*BETWEEN*WORDS*TO*
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Survey of CitizenTalents
From:	"Gaia Fabia Livia" <racheledugdale@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:40:54 -0000

> Do we have any urban planners? Do we have any
> architects? Do we have
> citizens who can design and build a water system.

I don't have any qualifications in such matters, but I have just read
about six books on Roman town planning, so until I forget it all I
know quite a lot about the rituals involved. But not the more
mundane things such as how to build the structures one has laid out!

In terms of occupation, I'm a classics student (as of today!), and
spent the last year preparing for my course, while baking for a local
cafe in order to pay the bills! So if Rome needs recipies for
cookies, flapjacks or muffins, that's the nearest thing I have to a
profession so far!

G. Fabia Livia


Subject:	=?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[Nova-Roma]_Re:_Freedom_of_Speech?=
From:	"=?utf-8?Q?sa-mann@libero.it?=" <sa-mann@libero.it>
Date:	Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:38:17 +0200

Salve Quintus Fabius,

it's indeed exciting to receive a post from a person bearing such a
name.
Thank you for putting it really kind to me. You even managed to make a
compliment whilst calling mr back to reality.
Nevertheless I still retain my point, but I see what you mean and I
couldn't say anything but you're right.
Everyday roman life was indeed "salty" and I would give anything to
taste it a bit though living in a town which still retains much of its
etruscan-celtic-roman way of enjoing life. Something that earned us
very recently a Pope's telling off. But whatever "honest "pleasure you
enjoy at home, the life of the state must be different.
I know how Caesar Augustus lived and this is what makes me admire
Rome.If I ever had had the possibility of meeting him I'm sure Rome's
nights would have give me something to remember.
Bene vale Quintus.


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inquisitions
From:	"Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:05:55 -0400

Pro. Postumius Nero Drusus C. Basilicato Agricolae S.P.D.

Salve,

I like the idea. Just for the record, I've been maintaining a list of all
the ideas my fellow citizens have been posting. Eventually, if I can ever
get together the necessities to do so, I plan to take some of the ideas
generated here and actually do something with them to get more money into
the Treasury for our good Land Project.

Anyway, now that I've digressed enough, I don't know if some of the members
of the citizenry find the humor in your post that I do, and some may be
sensitive to it, but I personally thought it was hilarious.

Optime Vale,

Postumius Nero


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Survey of CitizenTalents
From:	"Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:56:27 -0400

Pro. Postumius Nero Ti. Galerio Paulino S.P.D.

Salve,

I myself am a high school student, and beyond that, I hold no professions. I
teach (though, not officially recognized as such) modern world history,
English, and Latin, as well I am also a junior herbalist, though I make no
money from it. Such for my occupational talents.

Optime Vale,

Nero


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Rachel=20Dugdale?= <racheledugdale@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:32:50 +0100 (BST)

I, Gaia Fabia Livia (Rachel Dugdale) do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and
to act always in the best interests of the people and
the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaia Fabia Livia
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my
public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my
public and private life.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its
status as the State Religion.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Scriba for the NRLandProject Finance Office to the
best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Scriba for the NRLandProject Finance Office and all
the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Inquisitions
From:	"Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:48:09 -0400

SALVE*THIS*IS*TRUE*IN*FACT*IF*ONE*WERE*TO*LOOK*AT*THE*INSCRIPTION*ABOVE*THE*
PANTHEON*OF*AGRIPPA*ONE*WOULD*SEE*THAT*THE*WORDS*ARE*SEPERATED*BY*DOTS*WHICH
*IS*A*VERY*NICE*INVENTION*FOR*PEOPLE*LIKE*ME*WHO*DO*NOT*DECODE*VERY*EASILY*O
PTIME*VALE*NERO


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Oath of Office
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:43:09 EDT

In a message dated 10/8/02 3:42:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
racheledugdale@yahoo.co.uk writes:

> On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
> presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
> and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
> of Scriba for the NRLandProject Finance Office and all
> the rights, privileges, obligations, and
> responsibilities attendant thereto.
>

Congratulations, Fabia

Q. Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Freedom of Speech
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:02:18 EDT

In a message dated 10/8/02 3:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
sa-mann@libero.it writes:

> I know how Caesar Augustus lived and this is what makes me admire
> Rome.

We have four main sources for Octavius Caesar's life. Seutonius',
Plutarchus, Tacitus and the Great Man himself.

What seems to be an outstanding thread through out all these accounts is his
love for Rome, but this was tempered by his micromanagement of everything.
When I was working on that excretiable Cleopatra project, I do remember one
thing a producer told me. "He would make a great CEO of a corporation."It
would appear he was right.
He was a man of great vision, understanding that the dynasts had to be
replaced with only one. His. It brought Rome great stability and enabled
her to continue her climb towards greatness.
But let's be fair. One read of Res Gestae tells us old Octavius was a major
partier.
What town in Eutria?
Valete
Q Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Inquisitions
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:10:45 EDT

In a message dated 10/8/02 3:50:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
postumius@gmx.net writes:

> SALVE*THIS*IS*TRUE*IN*FACT*IF*ONE*WERE*TO*LOOK*AT*THE*INSCRIPTION*ABOVE*THE*
>
> PANTHEON*OF*AGRIPPA*ONE*WOULD*SEE*THAT*THE*WORDS*ARE*SEPERATED*BY*DOTS*WHICH
>
> *IS*A*VERY*NICE*INVENTION*FOR*PEOPLE*LIKE*ME*WHO*DO*NOT*DECODE*VERY*EASILY*O
> PTIME*VALE*NERO
>

SALVETE*THEN*VE*CAN*KEEP*THE*LATIN*AND*STILL*VSE*THE*LETTERING*ON*VOVR*PROJECT

*VALETE*Q*FABIUS

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Inquisitions
From:	"Brighn $Paul Kershaw$" <brighn@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:51:26 -0400

"SALVETE*THEN*VE*CAN*KEEP*THE*LATIN*AND*STILL*VSE*THE*LETTERING*ON*VOVR*PROJ
ECT"

SALVE*I*AM*AFRAID*I*DO*NOT*RECOGNIZE*THE*FOVRTH*LETTER*OF*YOVR*LAST*VORD*IS*
IT*FROM*A*BARBARIAN*SCRIPT*VALE*FESTVS


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	"Gaius Galerius Peregrinator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 08 Oct 2002 23:54:19 +0000

Salvete:

I've been using hotmail for awhile, now, and I am very happy with them.
Hotmail scans all incoming and outgoing e-mails for viruses and spam.
That's what it says under "frequently asked questions", anyway. Check them
out, you may like them.

Now, I don't really know much computer language and stuff. When I went
to college we still had those piano sized punch machines. It was about the
time Apple came up with the PC. So if you think I don't know what I am
talking about, then I don't know what I am talking about.

Valete

Galerius Peregrinator.

>From: Kristoffer From <from@darkeye.net>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
>Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:54:44 +0200
>
>Decimus Iunius Silanus wrote:
> > Does anyone know where these people are getting this
> > address from (which should be exclusively for NR
> > purposes), and more to the point, how can I rid myself
> > of these nuisances?
>
>Salve, Decime Iuni Silane.
>
>This is because a number of our populace are infected with one or
>another of a few e-mail virii going around, sending e-mails from that
>person TO persons on his address list FROM people on his address list.
>This is rather simple to fake, and difficult to recognise as false
>unless you know what you're looking for. Unfortunately, there is very
>little you can do to prevent this, as you are not infected nor have you
>done anything to cause this. Now that your e-mail is in the hands of the
>advertisers, you'd be getting these spam mail even if the NR citizen(s)
>afflicted by the virus had it and preferably Outlook removed from their
>computer(s).
>
>To all of you Windows users: PLEASE do not use Outlook for e-mail. It's
>BAD and almost the ONLY way most virii are spread. Use Netscape
>Messenger or any other of the free programs out there instead, just stay
>away from Outlook.
>
>To all of you: Please check your computer for virii. Download a 30-day
>shareware version of a virus program, if nothing else. Cleanse your
>system of virii, then NEVER open attachments you're not SURE are safe
>EVER AGAIN. And turn off Macros in all your applications, as they're a
>close second after Outlook in spreading virii.
>
>Sorry 'bout the rant, folks...I'm getting more spam mail every day, and
>have been seriously considering leaving this mailing list and getting a
>new e-mail addy to escape it.
>
>Vale, Titus Octavius Pius.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Unwanted mail
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:13:43 EDT

In a message dated 10/8/02 6:56:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, from@darkeye.net
writes:

> Sorry 'bout the rant, folks...I'm getting more spam mail every day, and
> have been seriously considering leaving this mailing list and getting a
> new e-mail addy to escape it.
>
SPD
I think yahoo is selling subcription lists. Oh I know they say they won't,
but when so much money is at stake, why would they worry? It's impossible to
prove.
I was offered 1500 for my ACW subscription list (300 names) last week.
I turned it down of course.

Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus

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