| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Polls |
| From: |
"Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:33:35 -0400 |
|
Salvete Omnes,
For those who have checked out my polls, and those who care to, I've added another poll to the site (http://www.angelfire.com/empire/picturesofthepast/). As always, it's under the "Polls" section on the left. You can't miss it. And as always, if there's someone mentioned who would like to be removed, please send me a personal e-mail and I'll remove your name. Similarly, if there is someone who would like to be added, or would like to add someone, send me an e-mail, and I'll be happy to comply.
Optime Vale,
Proculus Postumius Nero Drusus
Retiarius Lacuum Magnorum
Scriba Curatoris Araneae
Discipolus Anno Tertio Linguae Latinae
Civis Lacuum Magnorum Provinciae
Civis Patriae Novae Romae, Optima Maxima
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" -- Q. Horati Flacci
The Office of Postumius -- http://www.angelfire.com/empire/picturesofthepast
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Absent |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:17:56 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salve,
My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
family business.
=====
L. Sicinius Drusus
"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Absent |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:23:30 -0700 |
|
Ave Propraetor,
You have my and the Gens Cornelia's sincerest condolences.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus
To: Nova Roma
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:17 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absent
Salve,
My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
family business.
=====
L. Sicinius Drusus
"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:38:26 -0000 |
|
---Salve Druse Amicus:
My thoughts and prayers to you and your familia. This is a great
loss to you, and I you have my sincerest sympathy.
With much affection,
Pompeia Cornelia
In Nova-Roma@y..., "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
> illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
> family business.
>
>
> =====
> L. Sicinius Drusus
>
> "Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
> (A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
> Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Absent |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:48:18 -0400 |
|
Salve, Drusus
You and your family have my sincere condolences. This past Sunday marked the fourth anniversary of my mothers passing. While time will heal the pain nothing can or should replace these irreplaceable people in our hearts. Fama semper vivat.
Pax
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:24 PM
To: Nova Roma
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absent
Salve,
My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
family business.
=====
L. Sicinius Drusus
"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 04:04:17 -0000 |
|
---Salve Tiberi Galari:
As time slowly tries to heal us of the pain of loss of someone so
important and indelible an influence as our mother, what I can offer
is, that within which lies such longing of her, which weakens but
never fully passes, is this: when you think of it, part of her is
within you...... her spirit, her personality, her very genes. In a
sense, and a very real sense, she remains immortal, within you.
So consider that when you recall her loss, you in essence celebrate
that part of her which was so integrally impressed within you, and
lives to this day, and helps to celebrate immortal virtue,among many
other good things.
Vale,
Pompeia
In Nova-Roma@y..., "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...> wrote:
> Salve, Drusus
>
> You and your family have my sincere condolences. This past Sunday
marked the fourth anniversary of my mothers passing. While time
will heal the pain nothing can or should replace these irreplaceable
people in our hearts. Fama semper vivat.
>
> Pax
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: L. Sicinius Drusus
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: Nova Roma
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absent
>
> Salve,
>
> My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
> illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
> family business.
>
>
> =====
> L. Sicinius Drusus
>
> "Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
> (A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
> Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:10:22 -0400 |
|
Salve Pompeia cornelia, Thank you for these kind words. Time does work its wonder does it not.
Pax
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: pompeia_cornelia
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:05 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Absent
---Salve Tiberi Galari:
As time slowly tries to heal us of the pain of loss of someone so
important and indelible an influence as our mother, what I can offer
is, that within which lies such longing of her, which weakens but
never fully passes, is this: when you think of it, part of her is
within you...... her spirit, her personality, her very genes. In a
sense, and a very real sense, she remains immortal, within you.
So consider that when you recall her loss, you in essence celebrate
that part of her which was so integrally impressed within you, and
lives to this day, and helps to celebrate immortal virtue,among many
other good things.
Vale,
Pompeia
In Nova-Roma@y..., "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...> wrote:
> Salve, Drusus
>
> You and your family have my sincere condolences. This past Sunday
marked the fourth anniversary of my mothers passing. While time
will heal the pain nothing can or should replace these irreplaceable
people in our hearts. Fama semper vivat.
>
> Pax
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: L. Sicinius Drusus
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: Nova Roma
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absent
>
> Salve,
>
> My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
> illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
> family business.
>
>
> =====
> L. Sicinius Drusus
>
> "Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
> (A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
> Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Land Project? |
| From: |
"lithiaviridia" <mscommunication@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 02:19:49 -0000 |
|
Salvete,
I am still awaiting citizenship, but I couldn't help but put forth an
idea on the subject of possible land. What about down south
somewhere? Land in Mexico is CHEAP. Land in Belize is UBER cheap.
A few months ago I looked into it a little bit - Belize land was $5
USD/acre - not a bad price. Also, I would have to say that looking
for land in the U.S. is probably not a good idea as looking for land
elsewhere, as the U.S. has never had a good history with dealing with
people who want to form their own country on U.S. soil. Remember
Waco?
Valete,
Lithia Viridia (hopefully)
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Polls |
| From: |
"Gaius Galerius Peregrinator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 05:07:40 +0000 |
|
Everytime I click this website I get an advertisement with nascar cars, and
relationships and more..but no polls.
Vale
Galerius Peregrinator.
>From: "Proculus Postumius Nero" <postumius@gmx.net>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: "Main List" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Nova-Roma] Polls
>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:33:35 -0400
>
>Salvete Omnes,
>
>For those who have checked out my polls, and those who care to, I've added
>another poll to the site
>(http://www.angelfire.com/empire/picturesofthepast/). As always, it's under
>the "Polls" section on the left. You can't miss it. And as always, if
>there's someone mentioned who would like to be removed, please send me a
>personal e-mail and I'll remove your name. Similarly, if there is someone
>who would like to be added, or would like to add someone, send me an
>e-mail, and I'll be happy to comply.
>
>Optime Vale,
>
>Proculus Postumius Nero Drusus
>
>Retiarius Lacuum Magnorum
>Scriba Curatoris Araneae
>Discipolus Anno Tertio Linguae Latinae
>Civis Lacuum Magnorum Provinciae
>Civis Patriae Novae Romae, Optima Maxima
>
>"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" -- Q. Horati Flacci
>
>The Office of Postumius --
>http://www.angelfire.com/empire/picturesofthepast
>
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>
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Absent |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:46:16 +0200 |
|
Salve Honorable Lucius Sicinius Drusus!
You have my deepest condolences!
>My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
>illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
>family business.
>
>
>=====
>L. Sicinius Drusus
>
>"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
>(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
>Seneca, Letters to Lucilius
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
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"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Two thoughts on the taxation / money-raising question |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 04:50:27 EDT |
|
In a message dated 10/13/02 10:26:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jamiekjohnston@yahoo.co.uk writes:
> I don't wish to take issue with the point Scipio is making using this
> analogy, but I'd like to suggest that the analogy itself is perhaps a
> little extreme: the triumvirs' proscriptions involved not merely raising
> the level of tax on citizens, but rather, the drawing up of an extremely
> long list of citizens who any member of the public was permitted to murder
> without fear of punishment, and whose lands and money would then be
> confiscated by the state to fund the war against Brutus and Cassius. I'm
> sure even those members of this list in favour of a rise in taxes wouldn't
> wish to suggest a programme of that kind. :)
>
Actually, taxing the city citizen became more important only as the small
land owner became extinct.
In Rome's early days, the great Patrician families (mine included) supplied
monies and materials to Rome when requested. Building projects were
sponsored or mony raised by subscription. (We see this carried on today in
new hospital wings, built by donations by rich people.)
As army's needs grew, money was raised by various means, this included
proscription.
However, that could never happen here, our Rome's very nature renders this
impossible.
We have enough problems collecting taxes. I would like to see our first
project to acquire a plot of land were we could erect our first temple to
Iuppiter. To do so would have to be by subscription since we cannot tax high
enough to ensure this eventuality.
Vale
Q. Fabius Maximus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Absent |
| From: |
Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@mailservice.ms> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:19:55 +0200 |
|
Salve L. Sicinius Drusus,
People die only when they get forgotten.
You have all the sympathy from Gallia.
> My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
>
> illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
>
> family business.
>
--
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France
Scriba Explorator Primus Academiae Thules
Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae
French Translator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"Manius Constantinus Serapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:34:59 -0000 |
|
AVE OPTIME LVCI SICINI DRVSE
My sincere condolences, Drvse. I am with you in this moment, as I
can fully understand your feelings, believe me.
VALE BENE IN PACE DEORVM
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Land Project? |
| From: |
"Manius Constantinus Serapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:46:55 -0000 |
|
AVE LITHIA VIRIDIA
First of all I welcome you to Nova Roma and hope your citizenship
will soon be accepted!
Your proposal has already been made and we are taking it into
consideration, together with other porposals, suggestions and
considerations that have been made on this matter.
You can find a list of these proposals in the file section of two
mailing lists, the Sodalitas Egressus list, and the NRLandProject
list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egressus
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NRLandProject
Should you be interested in this matter (as you seems to be) I
strongly invite you to join both these groups and to take part to the
Land Project (we will not refuse your collaboration just because you
are still waiting for your citizenship!).
For any clarification, please feel free to ask.
OPTIME VALE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs
Praefectvs Investigator NRLandProject
Legatvs Externis Rebvs Provinciae Italiae
Scriba Aedilis Plebis Cicatricis
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Equus October |
| From: |
"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:06:30 -0400 |
|
Ex Domo Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Omnibus SPD
Idus October
The Ides of October
This day (NP), is for special religious observance.
This day was sacred to Jupiter and bridged the festivals of the Meditranalia and the Armilustrium. Sacrifices made today at the temples would lead to feasting in the streets to which the public and the poor were all invited. The celebrations would consist of games, music, dance and much drinking of wine. Horse races were held today in special honor of Jupiter, and in the two-horse chariot race on the Campus Martius the right side horse of the winning chariot was sacrificed to Mars. In a curious ceremony, a mock fight was staged over the head of the horse by the people on the Palatine and those on the Esquiline, with the winner hanging it on their respective tower.
15 October ID OCT. NP
Feriae Iove (Arv.)
(Equus October)
The entry of the feast of Jupiter, to who, all the Ides were sacred, has crowded out any reference to the 'October horse' which is given only in the late Calendar of Philocalus as 'Equus ad Nixas fit' (the Ciconiae Nixae were post-Republican).
n 15 October a two horse chariot-race took place in the Campus Martius and the right-hand horse of the victorious pair was sacrificed by the flamen Martialis on the altar to Mars in the Campus: according to Timaeus it was a war horse and was killed with a spear. The horse's head was cut off and decorated with cakes. The inhabitants of the Via Sacra then fought with those of the Suburra for possession of this grisly trophy; the winner, if the former then nailed it to the Turris Mamilia. Meanwhile, the horse's tail, cauda, or genitals, still dripping with blood was allowed to fall on the sacred hearth. The Vestal Virgins probably kept some congealed blood for use at the Parilia on 21 April (p, 105).
The original meaning of the rite has been much disputed: some believe in an agricultural genesis, others emphasize the military aspect. The former regard it as the last of a series of harvest festivals and believe that the horse represented a Corn-spirit. This view derives some support from Festus' statement, id sacrificium fiabat ob frgum eventum ('that sacrifice was made for the success of the crops'), but it is rejected by those who see in it a sacrifice to Mars connected with the purifications of the army on its return from the summer campaign and linked with the Armilustrium on 19 October. Of course an element of the truth might reside in both views: what was first an agricultural rite could have developed into a military one, with a war-horse substituted for a farm-horse, especially if Mars himself started his divine career as an agricultural deity. However that may be, the military aspect prevailed and by the later Republic the October horse was regarded as a cleansing of the army: both Timaeus and Polybius set it in a military context (Polybius deriding Timaeus for linking it with the Trojan horse!). note 256
It may be that the struggle between the two factions had lapsed by the first century BC, but the rest of the ritual apparently continued, and Caesar may have had it in mind when in 44BC he handed over two mutinous soldiers to the pontiffs and the flamen Martialis who killed them in the campus Martius and had their heads fixed on the Regia. note 157
(Ludi Capitolini)
The Capitaline Games are not recorded in the because they were not public Games but were given by a College of the Capitolini. This group of men were still active in the time of Cicero who in 56 BC wrote to his brother, telling him how they had expelled an unworthy member, an Eques named M. Furius Flaccus.The origin of the games is uncertain, but was probably ancient since it was attributed to Romulus or to Camillus who had founded them to celebrate either the saving of the Capital from the Gauls (Livy) or the conquest of Veii (Plutarch and Festus). The former perhaps derives from an attempt to explain the College of Capitolini, while the latter may be linked with a curious custom recorded by Plutarch: at these Games a proclamation was made that 'Sardians are for sale' and an old man, wearing a child's bulla round his neck, was led about in mockery; Plutarch identified this old man with the defeated king of Veii who was sold by auction along with other prisoners. Plutarch then explains that the Sardians were really Etruscans from Veii who had originally come from Sardis in Lydia. This explanation should be rejected since the Sardians must be Sardinans, but it is perhaps not necessary to follow Latte in arguing that since the Romans captured Sardinia only in 238 BC, the Capitoline Games must have been later than that. Sardi venales (Sardinians for sale), became proverbial, but its connection with the Games remains obscure. note 258
If the Games in fact go back to pre-Republican times, they must have been held in honour of Jupiter Feretrius not Jupiter Optimus Maximus whose temple was dedicated only at the beginning of the Republic. Thus whereas Livy who attributed them to Camillus naturally names Jupiter Optimus Maximus, Terulllian and apparently Ennius, who believed in an earlier origin, refer them to Jupiter Feretrius; Tertullian calls them the Tarpeian Games, but says that Piso called them the Capitoline. The temple of Jupiter Feretrius, which was the oldest in Rome and was small, was traditionally built by Romulus to commemorate his winning the spolia opima, and it was here that those trophies which were won only twice in historical times (in 428 and 222 BC), were kept. It contained no statue of the god, but only a scepter and flint, The derivation of Feretrius is probably from ferre, 'to carry', rather than from ferire, 'to strike', both explanations being offered by the sources. If the former, it will refer to the carrying of weapons into the temple for dedication; if the latter, to the striking of agreements. The silex flint, originally probably a meteoric stone, was used by the Fetial priest in the ritual of treaty-making. The worship of Jupiter as a god of war is unusual, and is presumably due to the central position he had gained in seventh-century Rome, the time when the temple was probably dedicated. note 259
To return to the Games themselves, little is known beyond the story of the old man and the reference by a Scholiast on Virgil to Ennius' Annals which, he says, told how Romulus built a temple to Jupiter Feretrius and had greased hides spread out and held Games so that men fought with gauntlets (caestibus) and competed in running (cursu): the competitors were, in Ennius' line, 'rubbed down with oil, made supple and ready for taking arms' (conque fricati oleo lentati adque arma parati). note 260
>From 'Festivals and Ceremonies of the Roman Republic' by HH Scullard
Mars nos protegis
Valete, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus flamen Martialis
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| Subject: |
RE: [Nova-Roma] Priestesses of Venus? |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:17:56 +0100 (BST) |
|
-----Original Message-----
>From : Diana Moravia Aventina- Pagan World <diana@pandora.be>
>
>As a self-proclaimed Priestess of Venus :-) I have to admit that I have
>never heard of that either. I have only heard that sacred prostitution was
>practicied in the temple of Venus Cythera in Sicily, but not all that stuff
>that you had quoted. But I am really curious. Can you send me the address of
>the website that you quoted below? I'd like to email them.
>
It sounds like a cerain kind of pagan equivalent to fundamentalism: it /could/ have happened so it /probably/ happened, so it /did/ happen. There is also a very un-pagan but quite traditionally Christian prudery in many of these neo-pagans about accepting that people may have enjoyed sex in its own right in a religious context without any guilt: it must have 'really' had a deeper significance.
I knew it had a familiar ring: 4th or 5th of Frank Herbert's eternal 'Dune' series: the Honored Matres.
Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis.
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Venus Cythera Re: Priestesses of Venus? |
| From: |
"ms_m2you" <ms_m2you@yahoo.ca> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:09:26 -0000 |
|
Diana Moravia, could you tell us a bit more about this temple and
its practices? Is this a Greek import? Cite resources too please
if they are on hand.
Pax
Lucia Sallustia Albania
(citizenship pending)
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Diana Moravia Aventina- Pagan World" <
diana@p...> wrote:
> Hi Lucia,
>
> As a self-proclaimed Priestess of Venus :-) I have to admit that
I have
> never heard of that either. I have only heard that sacred
prostitution was
> practicied in the temple of Venus Cythera in Sicily, but not all
that stuff
> that you had quoted. But I am really curious. Can you send me
the address of
> the website that you quoted below? I'd like to email them.
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia Aventina
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] S--t disturbing Re: Priestesses of Venus? |
| From: |
"ms_m2you" <ms_m2you@yahoo.ca> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:05:23 -0000 |
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I love academic s--t disturbing, don't you? The web page in
question is:
http://www.sibyllinewicca.org/lib_historical/lib_h_rome3.htm
I gather that this group is a for-profit at pagan expense.
I thought it sounded like nonsense - or _The Golden Ass_ which
is where this may have come from initally (hey i can hope, can't
I).
I would ask that you give me a couple of days so I can follow up
on the research. Nothing like a couple of pithy quotes from
primary sources and sound arguement from noted academic
journals to make "fluffybunnies" quake in the knees,
Lucia Sallustia Albania
(citizenship pending)
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Diana Moravia Aventina- Pagan World" <
diana@p...> wrote:
> Hi Lucia,
>
> As a self-proclaimed Priestess of Venus :-) I have to admit that
I have
> never heard of that either. I have only heard that sacred
prostitution was
> practicied in the temple of Venus Cythera in Sicily, but not all
that stuff
> that you had quoted. But I am really curious. Can you send me
the address of
> the website that you quoted below? I'd like to email them.
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia Aventina
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Absent |
| From: |
Rob Sullivan <rysullivan@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:35:56 -0700 (PDT) |
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Salve, L. Sicinius Drusus,
You have my most sincere sympathies. Losing a parent is never easy
(having lost my mother just over a year ago), but they always stand at
your shoulder echoing the love and advise provided in life.
Vale,
Titus Licinius Crassus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:34:36 -0000 |
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Salve Licini Sicini,
My most sincere condolences on your loss my friend. You and yours
will be in my prayers.
Gaius Popillius Laenas
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] S--t disturbing Re: Priestesses of Venus? |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:38:19 +0100 (BST) |
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-----Original Message-----
>From : ms_m2you <ms_m2you@yahoo.ca>
I love academic s--t disturbing, don't you? The web page in
>question is:
>
>http://www.sibyllinewicca.org/lib_historical/lib_h_rome3.htm
>
>I gather that this group is a for-profit at pagan expense.
>
Granted that they have a lot to say in a short space it all comes out with that desperate breathlessness of the true wide-eyed believer doesn't it? There's a marked contrast in Enyosworkshop where 'Enyo' (a minor island war goddess taken into the Greek pantheon and a young Floridan) argues a number of points cogently over several distinct pages.
With this, it is all jumbled, divine similarities taken with disregard for the differences: Zurvan is a much more fearsome and majestic figure than Saturn-Khronos - one possible ancestral contender for 'The Devil'. {Rx} has damn-all to do with astrological symbols: it is short for Recipe: 'take'; in fact medical prescriptions have earlier been known as Recipes or Receipts in the times when they were made up on the spot, and so on.
What is interestingly missing, and usually is from these sites, is modern cross-reference. Either the authors aren't aware of anything outside their own culture or they don't want older rivals giving different interpretations. Hindu and Buddhist Tantra may be secretive and often degenerate but they do exist and so does their literature much more clearly than speculative reconstruction of antiquity: 'Frazier' (or should that be 'Fraser'?) is only as good as his own observations and sources after all.
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:04:06 -0000 |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
> illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
> family business.
>
>
> =====
> L. Sicinius Drusus
Please accept my sincerest sympathy on the loss of your father. My
own pater passed away 11 years ago this coming November, and I know
this must be a difficult time for you.
Our thoughts are with you and your family.
---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
Curatrix Araneae,
America Boreoccidentalis
http://ambor.konoko.net
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Welcome in Germania Superior |
| From: |
"Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili" <quinctilius.varus@web.de> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:05:36 -0000 |
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E DOMO LEGATI GERMANIAE SUPERIORIS
In the name of the magistrates and the people of the region Germania
Superior,
I, Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili, legatus Germaniae Superioris,
would
like to welcome the following new cives in our midst:
Julia Calpurnia Calvina 24.09.2002
Graphica Fulvia Marca 08.10.2002
We wish our new cive an interesting future in our midst and hope, that
they will feel comfortable with us and that they will participates
actively in the social life of Nova Roma.
For questions and desires, the new cives is invited to make direct
contact with me. I will try my best to help.
Contact for more Infos also the homepage:
http://www.beepworld.de/members34/nr-rgs/
Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili
Legatus Germaniae Superioris
Duumvir Junior Coloniae Augustae Rauricae
Cornicularius Leg XI CPF Coh X Cand
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Absent |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:14:09 -0000 |
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Salve,
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> My Father passed away this afternoon after a long
> illness. I'll be absent for the rest of this week on
> family business.
>
>
> =====
> L. Sicinius Drusus
Please accept my sincere condolences and prayers for peace and
comfort for you and your family during this time.
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] S--t disturbing Re: Priestesses of Venus? |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:31:59 -0000 |
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Salve,
--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "ms_m2you" <ms_m2you@y...> wrote:
> I love academic s--t disturbing, don't you? The web page in
> question is:
>
> http://www.sibyllinewicca.org/lib_historical/lib_h_rome3.htm
>
> I gather that this group is a for-profit at pagan expense.
>
> I thought it sounded like nonsense - or _The Golden Ass_ which
> is where this may have come from initally (hey i can hope, can't
> I).
I read, or should say, skimmed the information at the site mentioned
above. I find the author makes a statement then jumps to another
statement without any indepth analysis in support of the first
statement let alone the second statement which may or may not have
any relationship to the first. Given the style and substance (or
lack thereof) in the writing I find it hard to believe that the
author has a Master's in Education (unless it is an honorary degree).
I'm sure that those who's academic interests lay in the arena of
Classical Mythology would have a field day picking this site apart.
My own Roman interests tend to skew towards the historical and socio-
political.
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Provincial Budget |
| From: |
"Daniel" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar> |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:45:51 -0000 |
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Salvete omnes.
In provincia Argentina there will not be any budget for next year
since no expenses are planned.
By the way I“m planning to ask for a prorogation of my proprętorship
for next year.
Velete bene
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Proprętor provincialis Argentinę
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] S--t disturbing Re: Priestesses of Venus? |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:59:39 +0100 (BST) |
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-----Original Message-----
>From : quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>
>above. I find the author makes a statement then jumps to another
>statement without any indepth analysis in support of the first
>statement let alone the second statement which may or may not
Absolutely!
>lack thereof) in the writing I find it hard to believe that the
>author has a Master's in Education (unless it is an honorary degree).
>
Where from though? I always find it 'interesting' that the profoundest knowledge of 'true' Christianity or pagan tradition comes not just from the USA where it might just be possible that traditions remained among the 'lost white Appalachian tribes' but from Californian and New York 'Odinists' and 'Eclectic Celtic Wiccans' and the like. At least some of the pagans I've had e-contact with can lose their family roots in Georgia and Alabama further back that some Black families.
Vib. Ambr. Caes.
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] ROMAN AND GREEK LITERATURE |
| From: |
"csorik janos" <csorikjanos@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 16 Oct 2002 01:24:17 +0300 |
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Salvete,
I am making a web site about ancient latin and greek literature. I want to
put on the site the finest pieces of classic literature. Until now i have
the complete works (well almost) of the fallowing writers:
Aesop,
Apuleius, Lucius
Aristophanes,
Aristotle,
Cicero, Marcus Tullius,
Caesar, Gaius Julius,
Epictetus,
Hesiod
Homer
Lucretius,
Marcus Annaeus Lucanus,
Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome,
Plato,
Propertius, Sextus,
Seneca, Lucius Annaeus,
Quintus, Smyrnaeus, 4th century
Sophocles,
Tacitus, Cornelius
Vergil - Publius Virgilius Marco
Xenophon.
As you can all see the list is far to be exhaustive. I especially need the
works of Suetonius, Plinius the Younger, Eusebius, Dio Cassius but I would
appreciate any ebook you can send to me.
Thank you very much.
Ubi concordia, ibi victoria.
GAIUS MARIUS CRASSUS
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