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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Provincia Argentina does not have any scriba propraetoris
From:	"Daniel" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 02:10:33 -0000

Salvete omnes.
With big surprise I found at the album provinciarum that one of our
citizens who left my macronation some months ago appears as scriba
proprętoris Argentinę, which is wrong. I haven“t appointed any scriba.
By the way, the censors were informed by me some months ago of C.
Argentinus Cicero 's departure from Argentina.
Bene valete
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Proprętor provincialis Argentinę
Candidate for tribunus Plebis
Factio Veneta (Crux Australis)

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Provincia Argentina does not have any scriba propraetoris
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?M=20Arminius=20Maior?= <marminius@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:37:41 -0300 (ART)

Salvete

As censorial scribe, with Decimus Iunius Silanus, I
updated the provincial staff for Provincia Hispania.
Apparently, C.Argentinius Cicero left Argentina for
Spain and was named by the Propraetor of Hispania, but
their home-province was not yet updated.

Vale
Marcus Arminius Maior

--- Daniel <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar> escreveu: >
Salvete omnes.
> With big surprise I found at the album provinciarum
> that one of our
> citizens who left my macronation some months ago
> appears as scriba
> proprętoris Argentinę, which is wrong. I haven“t
> appointed any scriba.
> By the way, the censors were informed by me some
> months ago of C.
> Argentinus Cicero 's departure from Argentina.
> Bene valete
> Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
> Proprętor provincialis Argentinę

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Frauds and Trolls
From:	"rexmarciusnr" <RexMarcius@aol.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 02:48:37 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
>
> Yes. However, you will note that III.b.3 effectively declares the
> Comitia Centuriata to be the only body which is competent to try
cases
> in which the removal of citizenship is at stake. In effect, the
praetor
> or consul in question would be asking the people of Nova Roma to
pass a
> law which exiled a specific person. In this way, the magistrate in
> question would not be usurping the competence of the comitia.

SNIP

> The constitution
> rather fortunately limits the trend in the case of the removal of
> citizenship, but a lex passed before the fact is clearly preferable.
>
> Valete
> T Labienus Fortunatus
> --

Salve Tite,

Good points although not entirely convincing for me. It is not just
about usurping the Comitiae powers. The spirit of the Constitution as
captured in the words: "by those means that shall be established by
law" indicates to me: "Law binding upon all the citizenry first,
sentence after trial (in effect binding only one citizen) later."
This is the principle "nulla poena nulla crimen sine lege".

Even in the part of the Constitution you mention the two categories
are distinct (laws III.b.1. and trials III.b.3). To do both at the
same time would seem to go against the logic in II.a.4. (as perceived
by me) and there are measures to use in the Constitution in case the
absence of a properly passed law created a real crisis situation (SCU
and Dictator).

However, I have to concede one point. As LSD pointed out before,
there is no obvious obstacle against passing a law ex post facto
unless we take our Declaration of Independence seriously (which we
probably should) and regard ourselves bound by the commonly found
international obligation prohibiting such laws in criminal cases
(e.g. Article 7 of the European Convention on Human Rights; yes I
know Nuernberg included ex post facto).

What this means is that a removal still could take place without a
law covering the crime at the time its facts were established. There
would be a delay, of course, because we would have to have two votes
(first on the ex post facto lex, second on the trial). But the end
result would be the same. I should therefore go on record that I
support any legislative agenda that includes the ban of ex post facto
laws in the future in the main body of our constitution.

Ave et Vale

Marcus Marcius Rex
Candidate for Tribune

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: WITHDRAWL OF CANDIDACY FOR QUAESTOR
From:	"Timothy P. Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 03:48:30 -0000

Salve, dear cousin

What is going on? Why can't you run?

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> From F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to SPQNR. Salve, omnes.
>
> I must regretfully withdraw my bid for candidacy for quaestor. I
have been
> informed that I am ineligible at the current time. This is the
correct and
> lawful decision of the consuls. Good fortune to the other
candidates. Vale.
>
>
>
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Frauds and Trolls
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:59:38 -0600

Salve Marce Marci

> Good points although not entirely convincing for me. It is not just
> about usurping the Comitiae powers. The spirit of the Constitution as
> captured in the words: "by those means that shall be established by
> law" indicates to me: "Law binding upon all the citizenry first,
> sentence after trial (in effect binding only one citizen) later."
> This is the principle "nulla poena nulla crimen sine lege".

This is an excellent and extremely compelling point. By focusing on the
question of an immediate remedy to the problem, I've managed to miss the
larger and more important issue. Thank you for pulling me back onto the
proper track.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus
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"Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what
should I do?"

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Frauds and Trolls
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@mailservice.ms>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:43:33 +0100

Salve F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus and Omnes,

> Further, if said person were ever to be discovered,
> there would follow such a period of social ostracism not to mention what the
> censors would do to them, they would never be trusted again.

Unfortunately, bad people do not care about ostracism. Sometimes they even need
it...

Vale,

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Action & Responsibility
From:	"G.Porticus Brutis" <celtic4usa@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 00:50:18 -0800 (PST)

No Jamie I just not the smartest bear in the woods thats all.The e-mails you write just start to hurt my head trying to read it.HaHa just pulling your leg!!
this group needs a good laugh from time to time.
Brutis
Jamie Johnston <jamiekjohnston@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:C. Porticus Brutis wrote:

> Good God Woman Engish Please some of us are as dumb
> as a tack.mainly just me!

Lol. Thank you for your comments! I try my very best
to write in accurate and grammatical English, but if
this isn't what I'm writing, many apologies. When
dealing with complicated issues it's sometimes
necessary to use complicated language to express them
without becoming confusing. If anyone finds they can't
understand what I've written, I hope they'll feel free
to e-mail me privately and ask me to explain it more
clearly.

Oh, incidentally, 'Jamie' is only a woman's name in
American. In English it's a diminutive of James. It
was invented in Scotland. It seems to have had a
sex-change half-way across the ocean, for some reason.

Jamie

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Farewell
From:	"G.Porticus Brutis" <celtic4usa@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:06:54 -0800 (PST)

I know this e-mailis years late but can anyone tell me if Diotima Mortifera Plutona is still with us.If not we should all try to bring our lost brothers and sisters back.How can NR stand with out her people?She can't stand there for NR will fall.Guys what is better 1 person that may or may not have been with us for a long time or 2 newbies that may not be with us the day after they join???

Are we so uptight that we will not care in the least about them?Lets strive to be better Romans and friend then strive for an office.Think about the bodys that lay on the floor after your great win, then you'll know the price that was payed.

G.Porticus Brutis

Diotima Mortifera Plutona <diotima@veilofnight.org> wrote:Ladies & Gents of Nova Roma,

I'm sorry to see, from tumultuous discussions on this list, that Nova Roma is indeed not the place I had thought it. I hereby resign my membership to this list and to the entire organisation, regretfully. I simply have entirely too much tension in my "real life" to log on to this many e-mails with more stress and tension in their messages. I don't expect things to be fluffy or hunky dory, but I just didn't stop to think it would be primarily a nation of debate.

All the best to you as you continue to strive to reconstruct Rome. It's a noble goal. I just had a different idea of what things would be like, compared to what they really are. Be well, all!

Signing off,
the once Diotima Mortifera Plutona

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Farewell
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:52:00 -0000

Salve Brutus!

Well said!

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "G.Porticus Brutis" <celtic4usa@y...> wrote:
>
> I know this e-mailis years late but can anyone tell me if Diotima
Mortifera Plutona is still with us.If not we should all try to bring
our lost brothers and sisters back.How can NR stand with out her
people?She can't stand there for NR will fall.Guys what is better 1
person that may or may not have been with us for a long time or 2
newbies that may not be with us the day after they join???
>
> Are we so uptight that we will not care in the least about them?
Lets strive to be better Romans and friend then strive for an
office.Think about the bodys that lay on the floor after your great
win, then you'll know the price that was payed.
>
> G.Porticus Brutis
>
>
>
>
> Diotima Mortifera Plutona <diotima@v...> wrote:Ladies & Gents of
Nova Roma,
>
> I'm sorry to see, from tumultuous discussions on this list, that
Nova Roma is indeed not the place I had thought it. I hereby resign
my membership to this list and to the entire organisation,
regretfully. I simply have entirely too much tension in my "real
life" to log on to this many e-mails with more stress and tension in
their messages. I don't expect things to be fluffy or hunky dory, but
I just didn't stop to think it would be primarily a nation of debate.
>
> All the best to you as you continue to strive to reconstruct Rome.
It's a noble goal. I just had a different idea of what things would
be like, compared to what they really are. Be well, all!
>
> Signing off,
> the once Diotima Mortifera Plutona
>
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Farewell
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:53:23 +0100

Salve Brutis,
>but can anyone tell me if Diotima Mortifera Plutona is still with us.

I don't think so. But I am in contact with her offlist and have been meaning
to ask her to come back. She's a very nice person and I was acquainted with
her before her brief stint on this list.
Her email address is Dina Ely [dina@gypsydancer.net] if you'd like to email
her too.

Vale,
Diana

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	"William Rogers" <wlr107@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:05:44 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., caiustarquitius@g... wrote:
> Salvete!
> I think this is a brilliant idea. The three-layered system would be
even better. But I would rather give names to the individual Groups
by thei number rather. If a "civitas" had e.g. 10 ACTIVE(!!) members
it could be upgraded...By upgrade certain rights are gained for the
group, as proposed.
> Valete, Caius Tarquitius Saturninus
>

I completely agree on the three tiered system. Where I think we need
to really focus is that we still must require any level of
the "colonies" to still be subordned to the privincial governor. Each
can still hold their own events, accounts, ectera, but they are still
(I would think, and hope) required to coordinate witht eh governor in
all things...those governors can then help the several "colonies"
coordinate activities, meetings, events.

This is a GREAT idea! It could be a strong basis for starting
training individual for "higher" civic office! great training
grounds, and a SUPERIOR opportunity to make new friends to boot!

Publius Tarquitius Rufus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	"William Rogers" <wlr107@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:11:08 -0000

It would really open up our creativity here! Just think of it...one
location makes great coins, another togs....hhhmmmm trade! :-)

On the selection of patron Gods, I think we may run into a sticky
issue on "which one" ("Christian" or "Pagan"). What I recommend is
this: Select a "Pagan" even if all in your group are "Christian". (I
use the quotes not to cause harm, but to show deference to
both...okay?!?!)

The governor MUST be closely involved in the leadership here, the
more I think on it, the more I see it must be done. Maybe the
Governor selects the Tribune or Quaestor fot each "colony"?

Publius Tarquitius Rufus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Sextus Apollonius Scipio
<scipio_apollonius@m...> wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
>
> > It nice to see people discussing the idea of local groups. I
think local
> > groupings of citizens is really what is going to take Nova Roma
WAY into a
> > successful future!
>
> The more I read about this idea and the more I like it!!
> The local recognition process will create a real culture within
Nova Roma. I
> said "real" because of course there is nothing like face to face
meeting.
> We should keep on talking about this, I think something really
interesting will
> emerge.
>
> Valete,
>
> --
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>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] lost NR's
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:12:47 -0000

Salve Diana, Brutus et omnes,

The topic Brutus and Diana brought up about bringing back people who
quit is a good idea and a positive one at that! Its a holiday in most
of the western world today so we could get some good feedback on
that. Any suggestions? I was up all night so I am going to catch some
zee's for a few hours. I'll see what transpires and get into the
discusion later.

Quintus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	"William Rogers" <wlr107@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:20:14 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., CSSWarspite@a... wrote:
> Ok
> Well I have been looking at all this and as I said before great
idea. But say like my wife and myselfs Rennie group hops in re-adjust
everthing to NovaRoma standards for Goverment and has over 10 people
who become members. Now wouldnt this set up a quick Civium or city
state ((Not sure what to call it)) in a resently empty area?

*****From what I read, no. You would be a, let us say for now (until
clarification and final wording is selected), a "Level One Colony".
After One year, the "Level One Colony" would apply to the Governor to
go to "Level Two".

*****One you reach "Level Two" (Here's my opnion, nothing else here),
you select your leadership, selecting your tax rate/level, ect. The
get the Governor's approval. The I recommend a "Level Two Colony"
operate as such for two years, possibly three. Why you ask? It will
show continuity, endurability of the colony.

Also what about limation on amount of time a person can maintain
office.

*****I believe that term limits should be selected by the "colony"
leadership in conjunction witht the Governor.

Good comments Marcus! :-) AWESOME FOCUS HERE!

Publius Tarquitius Rufus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] simple ideas for local meetings
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:21:31 +0100

Salvete,

I think that it was Quintus Lanius Paulinus who mentioned that he organizes
Roman nights, where people come over and watch a Roman movie and chat. This
is a great idea and very simple to implement. You can buy some inexpensive
drinks and chips and make a little Party of it. It doesn't have to cost more
than 40 euros. Or someone can always have a 'bring your own drinks' party.

Actually I am going to do this in January. And I may attempt actually
cooking something :-p I'm expecting about 10 people, which is perfect. I am
also organizing a day out to the Gallo-Roman day which takes place at
Aubechies Archeological site in August. They have a reenactment of a Roman
ritual, one of the local Legios, a Roman meal, music, etc. I am hoping that
my Gens situation will be settled once and for all long before then. It is
hard to 'recruit' if the citizenships remain unapproved by a 'missing'
Paterfamilias... If the people attending these activities want to join NR,
they will most likely want to be in Gens Moravia, bascially they know me for
years already through my Pagan activities.

I have access to many people, because I am sociable gal :-), but a good
place to advertize would be the local library, bookstores, museum, or
university. An announcement could also be made in any type of local tourist
magazine or website. Besides that, I am pretty lucky to have 3 Nova Romans
that don't live so far away from me, all of them coincidentally in Gens
Apollonia: Cicatrix, Scipio and Mercurius.

Scipio said: > The more I read about this idea and the more I like it!!
Scipio and I had been discussing NR type activities in August at the NR
Rally, so I was not at all surprised to find his enthusiastic email about
this :-)

Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Provincia Argentina does not have any scriba propraetoris
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Hadrianus=20Rutilius=20Bardulus?= <gens_rutilia@yahoo.es>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:22:35 +0100 (CET)

Salve, Luci Pompei Octaviane, et salvete, Censores Rei Publicae,
Caius Argentinus Cicero has been elected by the people of Hispania and appointed by our Propraetor as Scriba Propraetoris ad Anglicanitatem in Provincia Hispania. The mistake only concerns to the province in which he developes his work.
Vale,

Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus

Flamen Cerealis

Scriba Propraetoris Praeco Actae

Paterfamilias Gentis Rutiliae

Provincia Hispania Novae Romae

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] simple ideas for local meetings
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@mailservice.ms>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:44:39 +0100

Salvete Diana et Omnes,

> Scipio said: > The more I read about this idea and the more I like it!!
> Scipio and I had been discussing NR type activities in August at the NR
> Rally, so I was not at all surprised to find his enthusiastic email about
> this :-)

True!! I am pleased to see that many citizens like this idea too. A lot has
still to be implemented, as for example the legal link between the Governor and
the colonies etc... I am confident that we will go through.
May be we could create a list dedicated to this project?

Valete,

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Ludi Plebeii - photo 2
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:06:36 +0000 (GMT)

Salvete!

A new and exciting contest, offered by Aedilis Plebis
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix:

PHOTO CONTEST

A very simple contest: 10 photos of Roman-era
monuments to recognize.

10 days long one photo will be posted each day. The
photo will contain a whole monument, or a very large
part of it.

You can participate by sending an email to
consulromanus@yahoo.com (put PHOTO in the subject
line), with your Nova Roma name and the correct
answer.

Today's new photo can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/consulromanus/photo.html

Different kind of answers are possible, as shown in
this example:
A photo of the Pantheon can be described as:
Pantheon
Pantheon, Rome
Temple of Agrippa
Pantheon, Italy
Agrippas temple (Pantheon)

These are all correct answers; just make clear that
you recognize the monument on the photo!

All correct answers will be put together each day, and
my totally innocent two year old neighbour will pick
out a winner at random.

Everyones results will be presented each day in a
hit-parade.

*********
Today's winner:
Caius Tarquitius Saturninus

Congratulations!!

All others who have also submitted a correct answer:
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Jullila Sempronia Magna
Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus

The correct answer (it seems this one was rather
difficult...):
A view over the ruins of Leptis Magna, in Lybia, with
the theatre in front.

*********

So participate as much as possible to become the best
and greatest monument-specialist!

Valete bene

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Ludi Plebeii - Quiz 8
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:11:55 +0000 (GMT)

Salvete!

QUIZ

Who knows most on Ancient Rome?

Very simple: five questions each day, some multiple
choice and some not; some difficult ones and some easy
ones

Questions covering all aspects of Roma Antiqua:
military, history, literature,

Send your answers to consulromanus@yahoo.com (dont
forget to include you Nova Roma name), putting QUIZ
in the subject line.

The results will be posted each day on the main list,
so participate as much as you can!

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anymore!

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The correct answers of quiz 7:
What is a gladiator? (a warrior, mostly slave, who
fought in the arena as entertainment)

This emperor, was known for his systematic... (Decius)

What relationship was Augustus to Julius Caesar?
(Great-nephew and adopted son)

What tribe did Boudicca lead? (Iceni)

What was a scutum? (typical Roman army shield)

-----
Points so far:
Julilla Sempronia Magna 40
Titus Labienus Fortunatus 39
Sextus Apollonius Scipio 39
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus 34
Spurius Postumius Tubertus 27
Quintus Lanius Paulinus 26,5
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus 20
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus 20
Marcus Octavius Germanicus 19
Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus 19
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 18
Gnaeus Octavius Noricus 13
Marcus Arminius Maior 10
Gaius Basilicatus Agricola 10
Lithia Cassia 9
Vivius Ambrosius Caesariensis 8
Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia 8
Aulus Octavius Serenus 4

-----

Here are today's questions:

***************

1. Who wrote Agricola and Germania?

2. Solve this sum: XIV + LIX + DCCCVII = ?

3. Which consul, after having had the same dream as
his colleague while they were asleep, offered himself
to the Gods to save his army and the Res Publica?

4. This extravagant lover of ritual and architecture
is known for building a palace at Spilato in Dalmatia
that was intended for his retirement. Who was he?

5. When a movie is copyright MCMLXXXVII, this means

***************

Take part in the quiz, and see who knows most on
Ancient Rome!!

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	CSSWarspite@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:37:37 EST

Ok
How about the groups Region how would this be figured out.Like the SCA
with zip codes or by counties, these four counties belong to colony "X" .Or
by number of members resideing in that area?Like My wife and my self dont
know how citzens reside in our area,((Would be nice to meet some others))This
would help in organizing what colonies are where and how many citzens are
around that area.

Just my 2 Dennrii

Marcus Ambrosios Incendium

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] RE: [PLEASE READ THIS]English-Latin Dictionary
From:	Jim Lancaster <jlancaster@foxcable.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:35:54 -0800

Salve Marius:

The two I use most are:

Simple:
http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm

Detailed:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform?lang=la

Good luck!

Vale,

Cn. Iulius Strabo

>If anyone has a GOOD Online English-Latin Dictionary please send me it
cause
I could really use it. Thanks.

Gaius Cassius Marius<

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my Galeria cousin.
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:55:02 -0700

Salve Galerius,

As far as High Schools are concerned, I think it would be great to include
the Junior Classical League. As one of it's former alumni,
There was no such thing as Nova Roma back then, it would be nice to
enlighten them :-). If you need assistance with this, I'm here.

Vale,
Aeternia

I

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Gallagher [mailto:spqr753@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response
to my Galeria cousin.

Salve, Cousin

I WILL need a great deal of help and again thank you for
your offer. I have been looking at online software looks like I can get some
good E-mail newsletter software for under $500.00. You are right, the
newsletter will have to translated and we will have to burden the
translators with even more work. Do you think we should sent the newsletter
to Universities and Colleges with Classical, Latin and other like department
to increase awareness of Nova Roma. What other groups should we contact
High schools?
So many question to ask and answer in so short of time.

----- Original Message -----
From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my
Galeria cousin.

From F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to his cousin Tb.
Galerius Paulinus.
Salve.

I believe that since almost all members of Nova Roma joined
via the Internet,
the Eagle should be an e-newsletter. Also, as many of our
members are from
countries that do not share our language or affluence, their
fee for annual
membership should be greatly reduced to an equivalent with
the majority of
their fee going to their local provincial assembly for the
benefit of that
province. Any funds going to the US should be very nominal.
The
translators, may the Gods bless them, could translate the
Eagle and add any
appropriate announcements. The next quaestors will have
their work cut out
for themselves.
If any citizens require a paper copy of the Eagle, they
should pay a slightly
higher rate to defer the cost of paper, ink cartridges, and
postage. Again,
this extra fee should go to the local assembly if it is in a
non-English
province. You have my full support should you require any
assistance as a
lictor, scriba, or accensi. May the Gods grant you good
fortune, cousin.
Vale.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my Galeria cousin.
From:	PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:04:01 EST

>From Flavi Galeri to Aeternia. Salve.

I did not know there was such an organization as the Junior Classical League.
We did not have it back when I was in high school. You should suggest that
to the candidate for Curator Differium; my cousin Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.
I have every confidence that once he is elected, he will heed your
suggestion. If there is a national website for the JCL, you should pass it
on to him. Vale.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Elections approach - candidates still needed!
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:46:42 -0000

Julilla Sempronia Magna omnibus SPD

I looked at the slate of candidates this morning and see many worthy
cives NovaRomani have stepped forward to throw their pileus into the
ring, so to speak, but noticed that there are at least two vacant
positions for quaestor and one for rogator still lacking candidates.

Speaking for the office I fill, that of Rogator, I can hardly think
of a better introduction to the cursus honorem, and heartily
recommend it to any concientious NovaRomani who wants to serve the
republic.

I adress those of you who have been considering stepping forward, but
are yet hanging back with dark visions of hanging chads and endless
recounts - fear not! Our voting system is automated, and records of
votes cast are available for rogatores to inspect... it is an
efficient system and painless (at least for the rogatores) to
administer.

Step forward, O Rogator as yet undeclared! I'm convinced you and your
colleages will receive a great education into the workings of our
governmental system, and I promise all elected Rogators my aid and
support in training you for office.

---
in amitas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
Curatrix Araneae,
America Boreoccidentalis
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my Galeria cousin.
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:18:06 -0700

Salve Iterum Flavi Galeri,

Oh, yes, there's the Junior Classical League and the SCL (Senior Classical
League) it's older parent I guess you could say. Which I will soon be
A member of (woohoo!!)...... If the Curator Differium he/she wishes to
pursue this matter, I'll gladly pass over the links and my volunteered help.

Bene Vale,
Aeternia

-----Original Message-----
From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
[mailto:PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response
to my Galeria cousin.

From Flavi Galeri to Aeternia. Salve.

I did not know there was such an organization as the Junior
Classical League.
We did not have it back when I was in high school. You
should suggest that
to the candidate for Curator Differium; my cousin Tiberius
Galerius Paulinus.
I have every confidence that once he is elected, he will
heed your
suggestion. If there is a national website for the JCL, you
should pass it
on to him. Vale.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my Galeria cousin.
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:44:37 -0500

Salve, if I win I will need your help and the help of many, many citizens.

Vale TGP
----- Original Message -----
From: Jenny Harris
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:55 PM
To: 'Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my Galeria cousin.

Salve Galerius,

As far as High Schools are concerned, I think it would be great to include
the Junior Classical League. As one of it's former alumni,
There was no such thing as Nova Roma back then, it would be nice to
enlighten them :-). If you need assistance with this, I'm here.

Vale,
Aeternia

I

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Gallagher [mailto:spqr753@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response
to my Galeria cousin.

Salve, Cousin

I WILL need a great deal of help and again thank you for
your offer. I have been looking at online software looks like I can get some
good E-mail newsletter software for under $500.00. You are right, the
newsletter will have to translated and we will have to burden the
translators with even more work. Do you think we should sent the newsletter
to Universities and Colleges with Classical, Latin and other like department
to increase awareness of Nova Roma. What other groups should we contact
High schools?
So many question to ask and answer in so short of time.

----- Original Message -----
From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Fee for joining? A response to my
Galeria cousin.

From F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to his cousin Tb.
Galerius Paulinus.
Salve.

I believe that since almost all members of Nova Roma joined
via the Internet,
the Eagle should be an e-newsletter. Also, as many of our
members are from
countries that do not share our language or affluence, their
fee for annual
membership should be greatly reduced to an equivalent with
the majority of
their fee going to their local provincial assembly for the
benefit of that
province. Any funds going to the US should be very nominal.
The
translators, may the Gods bless them, could translate the
Eagle and add any
appropriate announcements. The next quaestors will have
their work cut out
for themselves.
If any citizens require a paper copy of the Eagle, they
should pay a slightly
higher rate to defer the cost of paper, ink cartridges, and
postage. Again,
this extra fee should go to the local assembly if it is in a
non-English
province. You have my full support should you require any
assistance as a
lictor, scriba, or accensi. May the Gods grant you good
fortune, cousin.
Vale.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Quiz 8
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:11:23 -0500

----- Original Message -----
From: Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:13 AM
To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Ludi Plebeii - Quiz 8

Salvete!

QUIZ

Who knows most on Ancient Rome?

Very simple: five questions each day, some multiple
choice and some not; some difficult ones and some easy
onesā¦

Questions covering all aspects of Roma Antiqua:
military, history, literature, ā¦

Send your answers to consulromanus@yahoo.com (donāt
forget to include you Nova Roma name), putting āQUIZā
in the subject line.

The results will be posted each day on the main list,
so participate as much as you can!

Answers to the previous questions cannot be sent
anymore!

-----

The correct answers of quiz 7:
What is a gladiator? (a warrior, mostly slave, who
fought in the arena as entertainment)

This emperor, was known for his systematic... (Decius)

What relationship was Augustus to Julius Caesar?
(Great-nephew and adopted son)

What tribe did Boudicca lead? (Iceni)

What was a āscutumā? (typical Roman army shield)

-----
Points so far:
Julilla Sempronia Magna ā 40
Titus Labienus Fortunatus ā 39
Sextus Apollonius Scipio ā 39
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus ā 34
Spurius Postumius Tubertus ā 27
Quintus Lanius Paulinus ā 26,5
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus ā 20
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus ā 20
Marcus Octavius Germanicus ā 19
Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus ā 19
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix ā 18
Gnaeus Octavius Noricus ā 13
Marcus Arminius Maior ā 10
Gaius Basilicatus Agricola ā 10
Lithia Cassia ā 9
Vivius Ambrosius Caesariensis ā 8
Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia ā 8
Aulus Octavius Serenus ā 4

-----

Here are today's questions:

***************

1. Who wrote āAgricolaā and āGermaniaā? Cornelius Tacitus

2. Solve this sum: XIV + LIX + DCCCVII = 880

3. Which consul, after having had the same dream as
his colleague while they were asleep, offered himself ?
to the Gods to save his army and the Res Publica?

4. This extravagant lover of ritual and architecture
is known for building a palace at Spilato in Dalmatia Trajan?
that was intended for his retirement. Who was he?

5. When a movie is copyright MCMLXXXVII, this means ā¦1987

***************

Take part in the quiz, and see who knows most on
Ancient Rome!!

Valete bene

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----------
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Octavius for Censor! http://romanrepublic.org/octavius/censor
Serapio for Quaestor! http://www.geocities.com/mcserapio/Serapio_for_Quaestor.html
Scipio for Quaestor! http://www.fr-novaroma.com/Quaestorship

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Local Meeting
From:	Jenny Harris <J.Harris@awgais.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:46:34 -0700

Salvete Omnes,

With the permission of my roommate, if anyone else from the Provinciae of
Austroccidentalis or even happens to live or be in
Denver, Colorado area on Dec. 6th is welcomed to a small-informal
gathering at my home. From the time of 8 p.m. -12 a.m.
The gathering will consist of a Roman Empire oriented movie (Aeternia wants
to see Quo Vadis, Aeternia's roommate wants to watch
Gladiator for the zillionth time, someone intervene my roommate :-)) Tons of
refreshments (Because Aeternia's a junk-food-a-holic!)
Two of the cutest felines , and intelligent discussion, and perhaps even a
card game. Right now I'm undefeated at Uno. That is if no one
Minds a couple, tattooed, pierced, twenty-somethings playing Hostesses.

If there are those who attend please do not hesitate to contact me
privately at the address above.

I'm hoping this gathering will happen if not, it's another night of
watching Animal Planet :-)......

Bene Vale,
R. Cornelia Aeternia


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quiz 8
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:50 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>

Once again posted the answers for today's quiz to the main list.

Would you *please* follow directions, and send them to
consulromanus AT yahoo DOT com? (Address expanded in case you're
reading via the web, which cuts addresses off after the @ sign.)
Once you've posted the answers, you invalidate answers anyone
else sends in after the posted answers appear.

Thank you,

-- Marinus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Candidacy for Quaestor
From:	"Gnaeus Octavius Noricus" <cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:11:41 +0100

Salvete Quirites!

According to my watch, only a few hours remain to declare my candidacy. I do so now: I am ready to serve Nova Roma as a Quaestor.

I did not step forward earlier because I hoped I could postpone it a year and collect experience "from the second row". But since we do not have enough people willing to run for this office, I feel I have to throw myself into the breach.
The reason for my candidacy is not lust for power. Nova Roma _needs_ people who get involved. I believe this is my task now.

I have been a Nova Roman citizen for two years minus two weeks now - I admit I was not very active. I am already changing that: I have recently been approved as Scriba Propraetoris by Censor Diocletianus and I am going to work in Senator Quintilianus' future staff. Personally, I would be content with that, but Nova Roma's urgent need for candidates overrides my personal preferences.

I do not have a big program to advertise: I just promise to fulfill my future tasks the best I can. - And since I'm a student of Latin, I will do all I can to prevent bad Latin in official texts ;-)

Please give me the possibility to prove myself.

Thank you.

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view?id=1320

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quiz 8
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:18:55 +0000 (GMT)

Salvete!

Indeed, Marine, you are right! The directions are very
clear, send the answers to the questions to me
personally!!

Posting your answers to the main list spoils the fun
for everyone else. This quiz is for fun, keep it fun
for everyone!

New questions tomorrow... new try.

For now, vale bene

--- Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<equitius_marinus@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- In
Nova-Roma@y..., "Stephen Gallagher"
> <spqr753@m...>
>
> Once again posted the answers for today's quiz to
> the main list.
>
> Would you *please* follow directions, and send them
> to
> consulromanus AT yahoo DOT com? (Address expanded
> in case you're
> reading via the web, which cuts addresses off after
> the @ sign.)
> Once you've posted the answers, you invalidate
> answers anyone
> else sends in after the posted answers appear.
>
> Thank you,
>
> -- Marinus
>
>

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Candidate for Rogator
From:	Legion XXIV <legionxxiv@comcast.net>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:05:29 -0500

VICESIMA QUARTA
LEGION XXIV MEDIA ATLANTIA
Defending the Frontiers of Ancient Rome
in the Mid-Atlantic Province of North America

Avete et Salutatio Censors, Senators, Citizens of NovaRoma

Hello and Greetings from Gallio Velius Marsallas
George W. Metz Praefectus / Commander
13 Post Run - Newtown Square PA 19073
legionxxiv@comcast.net 610-353-4982
www.legionxxiv.org

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, a Patrician citizen of NovaRoma, hereby
advances to the Rostrum to announce his candidacy for the Office and
Position of Rogator of Elections, to serve for such a period of service
as may be specified by the Constitution of NovaRoma or as may please
the Gods, Censors, Senate and Citizens of our Nation.

As Praefectus-Commander of Legion XXIV Media Atlantia, Americus,
a sponsored military unit in service to NovaRoma, stationed in Provincia
Pennsylvaniensis since 1998, I will have at my disposal the legionary
forces of Legion XXIV MA to enforce the rules and protocols needed
for a fair and just election on behalf of the Citizens of NovaRoma.

Thanking You for your consideration and attention to my candidacy;

I manere in Viresium et Honorare
I remain in Strength and Honor

Tuus in Sodalicio Romanae Republica
Yours in the Comradeship of the Roman Republic

Gallio Velius Marsallas / George Metz

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	"M. Flavius Aurelius" <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:38:25 +1100

How about each person chooses which group they associate with? That way, if
there is a one group they prefer, they can do that. Dividing by postcodes or
whatever is just needlessly administrative.

Speaking of needlessly administrative, why are we discussing structure at
all? Why not just encourage cives to get out there and interact with other
cives? Do you need sanction from your macronational government to talk to
your neighbour about getting together for a street party?

Marcus Flavius Aurelius
Durovernium, Australia Orientalis Superior
marcus.flavius@bigpond.com
ICQ: 4895187

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur

----- Original Message -----
From: <CSSWarspite@aol.com>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II

> Ok
> How about the groups Region how would this be figured out.Like the SCA
> with zip codes or by counties, these four counties belong to colony "X"
.Or
> by number of members resideing in that area?Like My wife and my self dont
> know how citzens reside in our area,((Would be nice to meet some
others))This
> would help in organizing what colonies are where and how many citzens are
> around that area.
>
> Just my 2 Dennrii
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:48:03 +0100

Salvete Quirites!

I have a just a short time before I will have to go to bed. I find
this thread very interesting though. I will try to show how it could
connect to my idea of the Roman Houses/Camps tomorrow. But to night I
will reflect a bit over the Governor - "local group" issue.

>It would really open up our creativity here! Just think of it...one
>location makes great coins, another togs....hhhmmmm trade! :-)
>
>On the selection of patron Gods, I think we may run into a sticky
>issue on "which one" ("Christian" or "Pagan"). What I recommend is
>this: Select a "Pagan" even if all in your group are "Christian". (I
>use the quotes not to cause harm, but to show deference to
>both...okay?!?!)
>
>The governor MUST be closely involved in the leadership here, the
>more I think on it, the more I see it must be done. Maybe the
>Governor selects the Tribune or Quaestor fot each "colony"?

As a Propraetor for at least 19 months I agree that the Governor
should be involed in the governing of the "local group". But I also
would like to see some freedom for the local group to choose their
leaders and decide what to do.

Could it be possible to give the Governor the power of intercessio
(and maybe add it to the Constitution) against "local groups" and the
"local group" the obligation to give the Governor, let's say ten days
to declare his intercessio, before they execute their decision.

I think that intercessio is a beautiful concept, because it tends to
make "both" parties cooperate. The Governor will loose Dignitas if he
is seen to be unable to handle lesser magistrati without using a veto
and the lesser magistrati will fear the veto. This will hopefully
lead to cooperation and compromise.

Still the Governor who has the responsibility to have the "greater"
view _do_ have the possibility to veto a proposal that he thinks will
disturb the Provincia in some way.

This way the "local group" will be free to elect their own leadership
and actions and the Governor will still have quite a strong control
over the "local groups".
--

Vale

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:06:47 -0800 (PST)

--- "M. Flavius Aurelius" <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com>
wrote:
> How about each person chooses which group they
> associate with? That way, if
> there is a one group they prefer, they can do that.
> Dividing by postcodes or
> whatever is just needlessly administrative.
>
> Speaking of needlessly administrative, why are we
> discussing structure at
> all? Why not just encourage cives to get out there
> and interact with other
> cives? Do you need sanction from your macronational
> government to talk to
> your neighbour about getting together for a street
> party?
>
Salve,
Nothing is preventing civies from having a "street
party". A Group of civies in my provincia is planning
a private meeting on our provincial list, and I'm not
giving them any feedback on these plans because it
isn't the governer's job to interfere with private
meetings.

A Municipium sanctioned by Nova Roma either from the
central government or from the provincial government
is another matter. In some nations (including the USA)
Nova Roma is liable for the actions of groups that
have a formal or even an informal connection to it.

If any citizens wish to form a private group with no
connection to Nova Roma they have the right to do so.
If they want that group to be part of Nova Roma, then
they will have to accept some controls from Nova Roma.

=====
L. Sicinius Drusus

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(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Marcus Octavius Germanicus for Censor!
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:22:06 +0100

Roman BriefpapierSalvete,

At this time, I would like to throw in my 2 Euro cents in support of our
current Senior Consul, Marcus Octavius Germanicus who is now a candidate for
Censor. I realize that so far, there is no one running against him, but to
me, this doesn't take away the fact that he is the best person for the job.
Besides the fact that he is the person who designed the current system that
we are using for new citizens, he is extremely intelligent, takes
initiative, is well organized and quite a fair-minded person. Besides that
he was one of the first citizens of Nova Roma and has held many offices
since then, always making our micronation a better one.

Valete,

Diana Moravia Aventina

Octavius for Censor http://romanrepublic.org/octavius/censor

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Local Group Idea... Part II
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:29:51 +0100

Salve Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,

>Still the Governor who has the responsibility to have the "greater"
>view _do_ have the possibility to veto a proposal that he thinks will
>disturb the Provincia in some way.

I think that your idea is a very fair one. There certainly needs to be some
control over what is done in the name of Nova Roma locally and the Governor
would have a good viewpoint on what is going on in his/her area. In any
case, as you said, cooperation is the thing. I honestly don't see how any
Governor would veto a Nova Roma Day or a get-together, but it should be
controlled, even if it only comes down to the Governor being made aware of
what is going on and saying 'ok, no problem'. At least then everyone is kept
informed and there would be no miscommunications, etc.

Vale!
Diana Moravia Aventina

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Ludi Plebeii - photo 2
From:	caiustarquitius@gmx.de
Date:	Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:41:11 +0100 (MET)

maison quarree in Nimes.

Caius Tarquitius Saturninus.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Ludi Plebeii - photo 2
From:	caiustarquitius@gmx.de
Date:	Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:45:57 +0100 (MET)

WoW!!!! THAT was stupid!!!!!
C. Tarquitius Saturninus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Provincia Argentina does not have any scriba propraetoris
From:	"Daniel" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:51:26 -0000

Salve Hadriane Rutili Bardule
Maximas gratias tibi ago for the information!.
Vale bene

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Proprętor provincialis Argentinę
Candidate for tribunus Plebis
Factio Veneta (Crux Australis)

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus
<gens_rutilia@y...> wrote:
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> Salve, Luci Pompei Octaviane, et salvete, Censores Rei Publicae,
> Caius Argentinus Cicero has been elected by the people of Hispania
and appointed by our Propraetor as Scriba Propraetoris ad
Anglicanitatem in Provincia Hispania. The mistake only concerns to
the province in which he developes his work.
> Vale,
>
>
>
> Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus
>
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>
> Scriba Propraetoris Praeco Actae
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> Provincia Hispania Novae Romae
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Provincia Argentina does not have any scriba propraetoris
From:	"Daniel" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:55:07 -0000

Salve Illustrus M. Armini Maior

Thank you very much for your post

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Proprętor provincialis Argentinę
Candidate for tribunus Plebis
Factio Veneta (Crux Australis)

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., M Arminius Maior <marminius@y...> wrote:
> Salvete
>
> As censorial scribe, with Decimus Iunius Silanus, I
> updated the provincial staff for Provincia Hispania.
> Apparently, C.Argentinius Cicero left Argentina for
> Spain and was named by the Propraetor of Hispania, but
> their home-province was not yet updated.
>
> Vale
> Marcus Arminius Maior
>
> --- Daniel <danielovi@c...> escreveu: >
> Salvete omnes.
> > With big surprise I found at the album provinciarum
> > that one of our
> > citizens who left my macronation some months ago
> > appears as scriba
> > proprętoris Argentinę, which is wrong. I haven“t
> > appointed any scriba.
> > By the way, the censors were informed by me some
> > months ago of C.
> > Argentinus Cicero 's departure from Argentina.
> > Bene valete
> > Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
> > Proprętor provincialis Argentinę
>
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