Forum Romanum


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] New mailing list for NR Singles!
From:	caiustarquitius@gmx.de
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:38:28 +0100 (MET)

Salvete!

I present you the new group for all our NR-singles:
Group name: venus_et_amor
Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/venus_et_amor
Group email address: venus_et_amor@yahoogroups.com
To become member of the group you must have a picture of you that is not
older than two years in the ALBVM CIVIVM and you have to be older than 18
years.
The list shall help you singles to establish friendships and perhaps
relationships with other NR singles.
Enjoy it!

Valete, Caius Tarquitius Saturninus
Paterfamilias

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 03:58:00 -0000

Salvete,

In all these shots being fired back and forth about the old Taverna
(the old chatroom), the Back Alley, etc, something is being
overlooked. We do have a working Nova Roma chatroom, just go to the
Forum Romanum page and you will see the link to it. (the URL is
http://novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat . It is rarely used anymore
unfortunately, perhaps because of previous problems mentioned here. I
have had the page minimized tonight for an hour and no one else made
an appearance. I encourage you all to make use of it; do not let old
troubles prevent Nova Romans from speaking to each other through this
medium.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius,
Senator Consularis


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 04:52:31 -0000

Decius Iunius Palladius writes:

> In all these shots being fired back and forth about the old Taverna
> (the old chatroom), the Back Alley, etc, something is being
> overlooked. We do have a working Nova Roma chatroom, just go to the
> Forum Romanum page and you will see the link to it. (the URL is
> http://novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat . It is rarely used anymore
> unfortunately, perhaps because of previous problems mentioned here.

I've been there in the past, and in fact just now brought up a
window to it. (You seem to have logged out, alas.)

I think the biggest problem I've had with the chatroom in the past
has been the asynchronous nature of our worldwide communications.
We're in so many different timezones that it's hard for people
to synchronize their visits. The other problem I've seen in the
past has been with the chat support software, which hasn't always
worked well.

But if someone would like to try for more realtime communication,
I'd be happy to drop by.

-- Marinus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 05:02:16 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Gnaeus Equitius Marinus"
<equitius_marinus@y...> wrote:
<snipped>
>
> I think the biggest problem I've had with the chatroom in the past
> has been the asynchronous nature of our worldwide communications.
> We're in so many different timezones that it's hard for people
> to synchronize their visits. The other problem I've seen in the
> past has been with the chat support software, which hasn't always
> worked well.
>
> But if someone would like to try for more realtime communication,
> I'd be happy to drop by.
>
> -- Marinus

Indeed that presents a challenge, but not necessarily an
insurmountable one. I have always enjoyed the times I've gone to the
chatroom for a Market-Day chat, and the other cives (and prospective
cives) who have dropped in have been most enjoyable.

Market-day chats have worked out relatively well (and they're often
scheduled a couple of times during the day), but we need to do a
better job of promoting when they'll be here on the main list. It's
sort of been "everyone's and no-one's" job to promote the market-day
chats, but if we could develop a consistent routine for reminding
cives when they are held, I suspect the attendance would improve over
time... it just takes developing the habit!

---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:08:41 -0800 (PST)

--- Julilla Sempronia Magna
<curatrix@villaivlilla.com> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Gnaeus Equitius Marinus"
> <equitius_marinus@y...> wrote:
> <snipped>
> >
> > I think the biggest problem I've had with the
> chatroom in the past
> > has been the asynchronous nature of our worldwide
> communications.
> > We're in so many different timezones that it's
> hard for people
> > to synchronize their visits. The other problem
> I've seen in the
> > past has been with the chat support software,
> which hasn't always
> > worked well.
> >
> > But if someone would like to try for more realtime
> communication,
> > I'd be happy to drop by.
> >
> > -- Marinus
>
> Indeed that presents a challenge, but not
> necessarily an
> insurmountable one. I have always enjoyed the times
> I've gone to the
> chatroom for a Market-Day chat, and the other cives
> (and prospective
> cives) who have dropped in have been most enjoyable.
>
> Market-day chats have worked out relatively well
> (and they're often
> scheduled a couple of times during the day), but we
> need to do a
> better job of promoting when they'll be here on the
> main list. It's
> sort of been "everyone's and no-one's" job to
> promote the market-day
> chats, but if we could develop a consistent routine
> for reminding
> cives when they are held, I suspect the attendance
> would improve over
> time... it just takes developing the habit!
>
> ---
Historicly the Aediles oversaw Roma's markets, so I
nominate the Aediles for the task of promoting the
chatroom.

=====
L. Sicinius Drusus

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(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 05:46:52 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Historicly the Aediles oversaw Roma's markets, so I
> nominate the Aediles for the task of promoting the
> chatroom.
>
>
>
> =====
> L. Sicinius Drusus

Great idea!

<g>Since I'm not an aedile, I second that! I only think about posting
when it's too late :-(

---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV
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Curatrix Araneae,
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http://ambor.konoko.net


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Chat
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 06:25:46 -0000

Salvete omnes,

Has anyone tried the chat on this mailing list, just under post. It
seems to work on my computer ok.

Quintus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 06:41:45 -0000

Salve G. Equiti,

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Gnaeus Equitius Marinus"
<equitius_marinus@y...> wrote:
> Decius Iunius Palladius writes:
>

> > In all these shots being fired back and forth about the old
Taverna
> > (the old chatroom), the Back Alley, etc, something is being
> > overlooked. We do have a working Nova Roma chatroom, just go to
the
> > Forum Romanum page and you will see the link to it. (the URL is
> > http://novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat . It is rarely used anymore
> > unfortunately, perhaps because of previous problems mentioned
here.
>
> I've been there in the past, and in fact just now brought up a
> window to it. (You seem to have logged out, alas.)
>
> I think the biggest problem I've had with the chatroom in the past
> has been the asynchronous nature of our worldwide communications.
> We're in so many different timezones that it's hard for people
> to synchronize their visits.

There is something to that. At one time though one could go in the
chatroom and it was a safe bet someone would be there almost at any
time of day. Generally the North Americans and Europeans would be
there at different times but that also increased the likelihood that
someone would usually be there. At certain times of day it was quite
busy because there was an overlap between the two. Now we have many
more citizens but less communication between them, whether realtime
or through the lists.

> But if someone would like to try for more realtime communication,
> I'd be happy to drop by.

Unfortunately I missed you but we can try again another day. I think
another reason for the disuse of the chatroom is that you can see who
is in there already before you login. Many times I think people go to
the page, see no one is there and don't bother to login. I've done it
myself sometimes. No one wants to be there by himself generally
unless you know someone is coming. Now I try to login anyway and
leave the page open to see if someone will show up. Once in awhile
someone does.

Palladius


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Under-age citizens (Was: Another Question)
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:16:57 +0100 (CET)

Salvete Quirites; et salve, Jamie.

--- jamiekjohnston <cordus@dygo.com> escribió:
> Responses to Drusus and Astur.

<<snipped>>

> Lastly, Cn. Salix Astur wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, I can not reassure you that your interpretation is
> > at fault. Reading your messages, I am understanding that we
> > actually have to re-examine the status of minors in Nova Roma.
>
> I agree (as you know). There's no good reason I can see why this
> subject should not be fully treated in a separate constitutional
> provision, as you suggest, rather than a bit tagged on to the adult
> rights provision. To be honest, I personally feel that there would be
> no harm in simply giving under-age citizens all the rights they are
> currently allowed to 'have exercised for them', but I can see that
> some might disagree, and the main point is to make sure that there is
> some protection for them. I'm grateful for your recognition of the
> problem, and I hope that even if you don't have the fortune to be
> elected, there will be some magistrates willing to look at this
> problem.
>
> Jamie

Thank you for your kind words, Jamie. I hope that we all manage to
handle this issue with good logic and good manners in the next few months.

=====
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Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: We DO still have a Chatroom
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:13:54 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@v...>
wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@y..., "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> > Historicly the Aediles oversaw Roma's markets, so I
> > nominate the Aediles for the task of promoting the
> > chatroom.

> Great idea!
>
> <g>Since I'm not an aedile, I second that!

The nomination having been seconded...

Sure, I'll take this on as a market day (and other day) effort.
(My three aedelian colleagues are welcome to join in too.)

The next Market Day is next Saturday, the 30th of November. I'll
post a separate message, and then ask the Praetors to set up a
repeating message announcing the market day chats. (Since they're
the list moderators and have access to that functionality.)

Thank you for the suggestion Drusus, and for the seconding of it
Julilla.

-- Marinus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Market Day Chat, 30 Nov
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:20:55 -0000

The next market day is Saturday the 30th of November. All interested
citizens and prospective citizens are invited to gather in the
Nova Roma chatroom, found at http://www.novaroma.org/bin/chat/chat
throughout that day.

Of course, nothing says you can't go there at any other time too.

--
ex officio
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
Curule Aedile

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Trip to Rome
From:	Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:05:39 -0500

On Sunday, November 24, 2002, at 08:17 AM, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> I would like to plan a trip to Italy and Spain to see as many of the
> ancient
> ruins that I can. I am looking for a tour/tour guide that has extensive
> knowledge in Roman history and the tour would be focused on this.

Caecilia Drusa, I had been thinking about the same thing! Other
financial priorities have gotten in our way for the time being, but
please do let us know what you find out!

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] RESULTS: Comitia Populi Tributa
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:23:20 -0600 (CST)

M. Octavius Germanicus Consul Civibus Novae Romae SPD,

The results in the Comitia Populi Tributa have been certified
by the Rogatores.

Tribes where the results was a tie between candidates, that were
then assigned according to law to individual candidates, are marked
with an asterisk.

Each candidate needed to win 18 tribes, a majority, in order to
be elected.

AEDILIS CURULIS

Franciscus Apulus Caesar - 32 Tribes:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27* 28 29 31 32 33 34 35
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus - 31 Tribes:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 21 23 24 25 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35

Both are elected; Franciscus Apulus Caesar is Senior.

QUAESTOR

Manius Constantinus Serapio - 25 Tribes:
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 12 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 28 29 31 32 33 35
Sextus Apollonius Scipio - 20 Tribes:
1 2 5 7 9 12 14 15 16 18 19 20 23 24 26 28 29 32 33 35
Lucius Arminius Faustus - 20 Tribes:
1 2 5 10 11 12 13 19 21 23 25 26 27 28 29 31 32 33 34 35
Gnaeus Octavius Noricus - 18 Tribes:
1 2 4 6 9 10 13 14 15 19 26 27 29 30 32 33 34 35

M. Constantinus, S. Apollonius, L. Arminius and Gn. Octavius are elected.
Another election will be held to elect the remaining Quaestores,
from among the same candidates.

Decimus Iunius Silanus - 16 Tribes:
3 5 6 14 15 17 20 21 23 25 29 30 32 33 34 35
Claudius Salix Davianus - 16 Tribes:
1 3 5 6 11 12 15 17 18 19 22 25 27 28 31 33
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus - 13 Tribes:
2 4 6 12 13 19 24 27 31 32 33 34 35
Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator - 2 Tribes:
15 19

CURATOR ARANEUM
Titus Octavius Pius - 35 Tribes:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35

Titus Octavius Pius is elected Curator Araenum.

CURATOR DIFFERIUM
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus - 34 Tribes:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus is elected Curator Differium.

ROGATOR

Renata Corva Cantrix - 28 Tribes:
1 2 4 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 26
27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
Quintus Cassius Calvus - 26 Tribes:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 12 13 14 18 19 20 22 23 25 26 27 29 31 32 33 34 35
Aulus Hirtius Helveticus - 24 Tribes:
1 2 4 5 6 7 12 13 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 25 26 28 29 31 32 33 34 35
Gallio Velius Marsallas - 19 Tribes:
3 4 5 7 10 11 12 14 19 21 25 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35

All four are elected; Renata Corva is Senior.

All proposed leges in this Comitia achieved a majority of tribes and
have become law.

Lex Salicia de Prorogatione et Cumulatione: 33 Tribes voting
YES 32: 1 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
NO 1: 2*

Lex Salicia de Suffragiis in Comitia Populi Tributa: 35 Tribes voting
YES 28: 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 25 26
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
NO 7: 2* 9 10 11* 12 21 27*

Lex Salicia Iudiciaria: 34 Tribes voting
YES 33: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 35
NO 1: 34*

Lex Salicia de Tribunicia Comitiorum Convocatione: 34 Tribes voting: (need 18)
YES 33: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
NO 1: 27*

Lex Arminia De Rationem Edictibus: 35 Tribes voting: (need 18)
YES 32: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 26 27
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
NO 3: 8 9 25

I thank the Rogatores for their work, and all candidates for their
willingness to serve in office.

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Consul of Nova Roma
Candidate for Censor 2756:
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] RESULTS: Comitia Centuriata
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:42:12 -0600 (CST)

M. Octavius Germanicus Consul Civibus Novae Romae SPD,

The results in the Comitia Centuriata have been certified
by the Rogatores.

Centuries where the result was a tie between candidates, that were
then assigned according to law to individual candidates, are marked
with an asterisk.

Each candidate needed to win a majority of centuries that voted in
that particular race, in order to be elected.

CENSOR

70 Centuries voted for Censor, therefrore 36 were needed for victory.

Marcus Octavius Germanicus - 69 Centuries
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 31 32 34 36 37 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56
57 58 59 60 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 71 73 75 76 77 78 80 81 82 83
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix - 1 Century [write-in]
30

M. Octavius Germanicus is elected Censor. Caius Flavius Diocletianus,
the current Junior Censor, will become Senior Censor and begin his
second year in office on January 1st.

CONSUL

74 Centuries voted for Consul, therefore 38 (74/2 + 1) were needed
for victory.

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus - 46 Centuries
2 3 5 9 10 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 30 31 33 34 36 37
39 42 43 49 50 52 53 57 59 61 62 64 66 67 68 69 71 75 76 80 82 83

Titus Labienus Fortunatus - 38 Centuries
1* 2 4 5 7 8 11 12 14 17 18 22 23 32 39 40 41 42 44* 45 51 59 60
62 63 64 65 71 73* 75 76 77 78 79* 80 81* 82 83

Quintus Fabius Maximus - 32 Centuries
1* 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 13* 15 16 19 20 21 26 27 35 41* 43 44* 51
54 55 56 58 63 66 73* 77 79* 81

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus are elected
Consuls for MMDCCLVI. C. Fabius will be Senior.

PRAETOR

74 Centuries voted for Praetor, with 38 needed for victory. Unfortunately,
no candidate received votes from 38 centuries, and a second election will
be needed.

Gnaeus Salix Astur - 37 Centuries
1 3 4 8 10 13 15 16 19 21 22 23 24 27 31 33 34 36 39 42 43 44 49
52 57 59 61 63 64 66 67 68 71 73 80 82 83

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus - 31 Centuries
2* 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 13* 14* 16 19 20* 24 26 32 36 37* 41* 50 51 52
55 56 63 66 73 76* 77 78 79*

Lucius Sicinius Drusus - 27 Centuries
2 3 4 11 17* 18 21 23 26 30 35 43 44 51 53 54 58 62 65 67 76 75*
77 78 80 81 83

Marcus Arminius Maior - 26 Centuries
1 5 7* 12 14* 17 18 20* 22 25 37* 39 40 41* 42 45 53 55 59*
60 62 69 71 75* 79* 81

I thank the Rogatores for their work, and all candidates for their
willingness to serve in office. The schedule for the runoff election
for Praetor will be announced within the next two days.

Valete, Octavius.

--
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Congratulations!
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 15:33:09 -0000

I see the results of the balloting have been posted. Congratulations
to all who have won, especially my Curule Aedilean running mate
Franciscus Apulus Caesar. We split it just the way we had hoped to
split it, with him taking just one more tribe so he'll be the Senior
Curule Aedile next year.

My sincere thanks to all who offered themselves for next year's
magistracies. Not everyone can win, I know. But I also know the
commitment it takes to don the toga candida and step forward.

Some positions have yet to be filled, and I hope that all will vote as
carefully in these upcoming runoff elections.

2756 a.u.c. is shaping up to be a *very* good year.

-- Marinus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Thank you all
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Hirtius=20Helveticus?=" <hirtius75ch@yahoo.de>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:00:00 +0100 (CET)

Salvete Quirites!

I'd like to thank every citizen who elected me as
Rogator. I will serve our res publica with all my time
and effort as I promised in my declaration.

I'd like also to congratulate all elected magistrates
for the next year!

Valete bene,

=====
A. Hirtius Helveticus
-------------------------
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(Corippus, In laudem Iustini 3, 328)
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Myths about the Ancients
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:10:16 -0600

Anybody have any favourite myths they like to tell about the ancients?
For example, its widely believed that Greek Olympians never received payment for winning. In fact, if you won at the Olympics, you received either 500 bushels of grain or giant olive amphorae, qualifying yourself as a "pentacostadesmonoi"(sp?) or a "five hundred bushel man". In Athens that meant you were responsible for outfitting a bireme in time of war. A far cry from a simple wreath of laurels. The lack of money incentives in modern olympic competition is a result of rich folks who wished to exclude poorer, but better, atheletes from competition, knowing they couldn't afford to play for free. Which backfired in the first modern Olympics, when America sent no team, but a bunch of American college drunks paid their own way, got wasted the night before the games, and then swept almost every event for the gold!

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Congratulations to all candidates!
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:55:06 +0000 (GMT)

Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix omnibus SPD

Many congratulations to all newly elected magistrates:

CENSOR
Marcus Octavius Germanicus

CONSUL
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Titus Labienus Fortunatus

AEDILIS CURULIS
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

QUAESTOR
Manius Constantinus Serapio
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Lucius Arminius Faustus
Gnaeus Octavius Noricus

CURATOR ARANEUM
Titus Octavius Pius

CURATOR DIFFERIUM
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

ROGATOR
Renata Corva Cantrix
Quintus Cassius Calvus
Aulus Hirtius Helveticus
Gallio Velius Marsallas

Also, many thanks to all others who ran for office!
Better luck next time!

Valete bene

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Thank You very much and Congratulations!
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:59:05 +0100

Salvete Quirites and co-competitors!

First of all I thank You, the Populus, for showing your trust in me
as the next years Senior Consul! I promise that I will do my outmost
to meet the expectations of the Populus.

Further I congratulate my future colleague Illustris Titus Labienus
Fortunatus! I certainly look forward to work with You during the next
year.

I also thank Illustris Quintus Fabius Maximus for standing for
election. You are a model, because of your willingness to serve.
Thank You!
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Sitting in the Chat Room
From:	"Ivlia A.A. Musa" <aneaapollonia@aol.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:03:21 -0000

Salvete,
I'm going to sit in the chat room [the one hosted by this group] for
a bit, anyone with the time or inclination to join me for a chat is
happily welcome to come along. :o)

Vale bene,
I.A.A.Musa


Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] New mailing list for NR Singles!
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:18:09 +0100

Salve Caius Tarquitius Saturninus,

Venus et Amor as a name for the singles group? Sounds very sweet to me!
Within a Nova roman singles group, I think that it is great that you have
not forgotten our Goddess of Love, Venus.
Vale and the best of luck to you with your excellent initiative!
Diana Moravia Aventina

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: caiustarquitius@gmx.de [mailto:caiustarquitius@gmx.de]
Verzonden: zondag 24 november 2002 1:38
Aan: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [Nova-Roma] New mailing list for NR Singles!

Salvete!

I present you the new group for all our NR-singles:
Group name: venus_et_amor
Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/venus_et_amor
Group email address: venus_et_amor@yahoogroups.com
To become member of the group you must have a picture of you that is not
older than two years in the ALBVM CIVIVM and you have to be older than 18
years.
The list shall help you singles to establish friendships and perhaps
relationships with other NR singles.
Enjoy it!

Valete, Caius Tarquitius Saturninus
Paterfamilias

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] New mailing list for NR Singles!
From:	caiustarquitius@gmx.de
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:45:57 +0100 (MET)

Thanks a lot, Diana!

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] R: Chariot Races on Cable TV
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:24:58 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Sexto Cornelio Cotta S.P.D.

> The Learning Channel(TLC) on cable is going to have Chariot
> Races on December 1st at 8pm(CT). I just saw the ad on TV.
> They showed a Pit Crew(like NASCAR) working on a Chariot.
> It looks like it should be very interesting.

Propraetor, I'm very interesting about it (as next Curule Aedile I hope ;-)
Do you know how I could see it? Is there a website where I can watch it?
Could you register it and send me a VHS (or internet file)?

Thank you very much

Vale
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Congratulations!
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:01:26 +0100

Salvete Quirites!

Congratulations to all elected magistrati!

I must admit that I copied this excellent list from Illustris
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix' mail. I hope that You will forgive me
for using it, Illustris Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix. I can only say
to my defense that time is short at the moment! ;-)

CENSOR
Marcus Octavius Germanicus

CONSUL
I have already congratulated Illustris Titus Labienus Fortunatus, but
why not doing one more time! ;-)

AEDILIS CURULIS
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

QUAESTOR
Manius Constantinus Serapio
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Lucius Arminius Faustus
Gnaeus Octavius Noricus

CURATOR ARANEUM
Titus Octavius Pius

CURATOR DIFFERIUM
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

ROGATOR
Renata Corva Cantrix
Quintus Cassius Calvus
Aulus Hirtius Helveticus
Gallio Velius Marsallas

Thank You who run, but were not elected.

Now we just have to wait for the results from the Comitia Plebis
Tributa. After that we will have to go through a second election
procedure for Praetores. After that we also will have to have new
elections in the Comitia Populi Tributa for four Quaestores. And that
isn't sure to be the end of the elections. ;-)

Thank You Illustris Gnaeus Salix Astur for changing the law for the
Comitia Populi Tributa, I am sure it will be an improvement! ;-)
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
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************************************************
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Congratulations!
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:12:59 -0000

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Gnaeo Equitio Marino S.P.D.

> I see the results of the balloting have been posted.
Congratulations
> to all who have won, especially my Curule Aedilean running mate
> Franciscus Apulus Caesar. We split it just the way we had hoped to
> split it, with him taking just one more tribe so he'll be the Senior
> Curule Aedile next year.

Amice, thank you very much and please, take my congratulations,
you'll be a wonderful Aedile.
The just one tribe means we have to collaborate and I'll very happy
(first to work with a great friend ;-) to propose you a common work
about archeological projects, judicial issues and events.
We'll make great things, Aedile!

Vale
Franciscus Apulus Caesar


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] CONGRATULATIONS
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:17:12 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

What exciting elections, people!!!
I'm very happy and not just because I'm the new Senior Curule Aedile ..
thank you to everybody to have voted me!
I'm very happy because several of my friends are be elected.

First of all congratulations to Illustrus Consul Caeso Fabius
Quinitlianus!!! I'm sure the next year will be an important year for Nova
Roma and new winds will run!

Congratulations to Illustrus Quaestor Manius Constantinus Serapio!!! Amice,
I'm very happy for you and I see a lightening curusu honorum. Now we have
another wonderful Magistrate!

Congratulaions to Illustrus Curule Aedile (Junior ;-)) Gnaeus Equitius
Marinus!!! I'm sure we'll work as well as useful in teh next year!

Congratulations to my friends Illustrus Censor Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Illustrus Curator araneum Titus Octavisu Pius, Illustrus Quaestor Sextus
Apollonius Scipio and to all the other winners!

I'm glad for Gnaeus Salix Astur ... Amice, I'm sure you'll win in the next
elections, you have my support!

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
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Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
Next Senior Curule Aedile for 2756
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Elections
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:39:56 -0000

Salvete omnes,

When do we here about the Tribune results?

Vale,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Elections
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:41:50 -0600 (CST)

Salve Quinte Lani,

> When do we here about the Tribune results?

That election continues until tomorrow (it's longer, due to different
rules for the different Comitia). Then, the Rogatores will send the
results to the Tribunes.

Vale, Octavius.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] R: Trip
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:34:15 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

Amici, I announce you all ny Cohors Aedilis is working about the
organization of the next Europea (World I hope) Nova Roman Meeting.
So if you have to plan a trip in Italy for the next summer, please note it.
The meeting will be in Bologna (big city 100 km to Venice and Florence, 250
km from Rome and Milan) from 1st to 3th August 2003.
We're organizing historical events, original roman dinner, a village in a
Reneissance building, meetings with historical griups and archeologists.
And you'll have the possibility to meet illustri citizens from Europe and
USA like our Consul Quintilianus, Equitius Marinus, Constantinus Serapio,
etc.

So please contact me for futher informations

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
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Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
Next Senior Curule Aedile for 2756
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Elections
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:50:04 -0000

Salvete!

Thank you Consul Marce and congratulations on your new post!

Quintus

-- In Nova-Roma@y..., Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote:
> Salve Quinte Lani,
>
> > When do we here about the Tribune results?
>
> That election continues until tomorrow (it's longer, due to
different
> rules for the different Comitia). Then, the Rogatores will send the
> results to the Tribunes.
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
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> Candidate for Censor 2756:
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Multas gratias et gratulor!
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:18:35 -0600

T Labienus Fortunatus Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

To everyone who voted for me, and to those who offered good wishes both
publicly and privately, I offer a hearty thank you. Your support is
appreciated. I shall endeavor to live up to your expectations, and I
look forward to working with the inestimable Caeso Fabius while doing so.

I give an equally hearty thank you to everyone who didn't vote for me.
There were no bad choices on this year's ballot, and it would have been
no dishonor to have come in third place to the two Fabii.

I also thank Quintus Fabius for running a clean race that focused upon
issues and the future of the Res Publica, rather than personalities and
mudslinging. And, I thank him for continuing his service to Nova Roma
by providing the people with a choice. It's heartening to see more and
more elections which are contested.

Speaking of those contests, congratulations to all of next year's
magistrates!

Finally, don't forget that the elections aren't quite over! Remember to
vote in the run-off for praetor.

Valete
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should I do?"

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Opening for Accensus
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:28:12 -0600

T Labienus Fortunatus Quiritibus SPD

I would like to have a Latinist on my staff next year. This person's
job would be to translate any edicta, leges, senatusconsulta, and other
official documents presented by me into Latin. Requirements for the
position are fluency in both English and Latin, and the ability to
provide translations in a timely manner throughout the year.

Applicants are invited to contact me directly at labienus @ texas. net
(remove the spaces in the address, which were added to defeat Yahoo's
masking routines for those who read the list from the site).

Valete
--
"Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what
should I do?"


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Familial problem and absentia
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:52:20 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

one of our three little boys had today a violent allergy and has been sent to the
hospital. He is safe but he will need further examinations. This of course will take most
of my time for the coming days. My family just had a very traumatic day. Everybody is
asleep now, I guess I will stay awake for a long while.
For the elections, I send my congratulations to all candidates and I would like to thank
all the Citizens and the Senate for making Nova Roma such a wonderful place.

Valete,

Sextus Apollonius Scipio

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Familial problem and absentia
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:12:16 +0100

Salve Amice!

First I want to congratulate You to your nice win! I look forward to
be able to work with You, but please take your time with your boy and
the family. I will wait for You. You and your family have my deepest
sympathy and I will include you in my prayers.

>one of our three little boys had today a violent allergy and has
>been sent to the
>hospital. He is safe but he will need further examinations. This of
>course will take most
>of my time for the coming days. My family just had a very traumatic
>day. Everybody is
>asleep now, I guess I will stay awake for a long while.
>For the elections, I send my congratulations to all candidates and I
>would like to thank
>all the Citizens and the Senate for making Nova Roma such a wonderful place.
>
>Valete,
>
>Sextus Apollonius Scipio

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Familial problem and absentia
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:25:27 +0100

Salve Scipio,

>one of our three little boys had today a violent allergy and has been sent
to the
hospital.
Jeez, that is terrible. I will keep my fingers crossed that everything turns
out ok.

Vale,
Diana

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Debunking Myths about the Ancients
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 15:08:14 -0600

I guess it should be "Debunking Myths about the Ancients"

Anybody have any favourite myths they like to debunk about the ancients?
For example, its widely believed that Greek Olympians never received payment for winning. In fact, if you won at the Olympics, you received either 500 bushels of grain or giant olive amphorae, qualifying yourself as a "pentacostadesmonoi"(sp?) or a "five hundred bushel man". In Athens that meant you were responsible for outfitting a bireme in time of war. A far cry from a simple wreath of laurels. The lack of money incentives in modern olympic competition is a result of rich folks who wished to exclude poorer, but better, atheletes from competition, knowing they couldn't afford to play for free. Which backfired in the first modern Olympics, when America sent no team, but a bunch of American college drunks paid their own way, got wasted the night before the games, and then swept almost every event for the gold!

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

"But suddenly I viddied that thinking was for the gloopy ones and the oomny ones used like inspiration and what Bog sends."

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Myths about the Ancients

Anybody have any favourite myths they like to tell about the ancients?
For example, its widely believed that Greek Olympians never received payment for winning. In fact, if you won at the Olympics, you received either 500 bushels of grain or giant olive amphorae, qualifying yourself as a "pentacostadesmonoi"(sp?) or a "five hundred bushel man". In Athens that meant you were responsible for outfitting a bireme in time of war. A far cry from a simple wreath of laurels. The lack of money incentives in modern olympic competition is a result of rich folks who wished to exclude poorer, but better, atheletes from competition, knowing they couldn't afford to play for free. Which backfired in the first modern Olympics, when America sent no team, but a bunch of American college drunks paid their own way, got wasted the night before the games, and then swept almost every event for the gold!

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

"But suddenly I viddied that thinking was for the gloopy ones and the oomny ones used like inspiration and what Bog sends."

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Thanks for your Support
From:	Legion XXIV <legionxxiv@comcast.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:32:48 -0500

To All Citizens of NovaRoma:

I extend my heartfelt gratitude to all who supported my candidacy
for Rogator. I was gratified to receive as many votes as I did,
considering that I have maintained a rather low profile within the
NovaRoman community.

I pledge to serve with honor and integrity to assure an accurate
and proper election.

Thanking you for your confidence in electing me as a Rogator,

I manere in Viresium et Honorare
I remain in Strength and Honor

(take your pick)
Tuus in Sodalicio Romanae Republica
Yours in the Comradeship of the Roman Republic

Tuus in Sodalicio Romanae Imperi
Yours in the Comradeship of the Roman Empire

Gallio / George

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Chariot Races on TLC---More Info
From:	Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:27:41 -0600

Salve,
Here is the Discovery.com link for the Chariot Races on
12/1/02. There is a lot of info on the program.

http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/chariotrace/chariotrace.html

Vale,

Sextus Cornelius Cotta

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Chariot Races on TLC---More Info
From:	Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:33:34 -0600

I forgot to say they are going to have four teams and they
are the same as our Factions here in Nova Roma. You can
pick your Faction(i.e. team) on the site.

Sextus Cornelius Cotta

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Debunking Myths about the Ancients
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:39:22 +0000 (GMT)

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>From : Gaius Basilicatus Agricola <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>

>For example, its widely believed that Greek Olympians never received payment for winning. In fact, if you won at the Olympics, you received

Better than that, Athens entitled you to free dinner on the State for life. I don't know how often or if it was maybe one big banquet a year or something though.

V. Ambrosius Caesariensis

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Thank you and congratulations
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:40:02 -0000

Salve,

I'd like to thank all Nova Romans who took the time to vote in this
election regardless for whom you cast your ballot. As rogator-elect
I look forward to serving Nova Roma in the coming year as well as
looking forward to working with Renata Corva Cantrix, Aulus Hirtius
Helveticus, and Gallio Velius Marsallas. I ask only one thing of
Nova Romans, please make our jobs tedious with high voter turnouts in
the coming year.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Familial problem and absentia
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:49:05 -0000

Salve,

I certainly hope and pray for your son's speedy recovery and quickly
discovering the source of his allergic reaction. I know it pales
compared to the safety and well being of your family, but please
accept my congartulations on your electorial victory.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Sextus Apollonius Scipio
<scipio_apollonius@y...> wrote:
> Salvete,
>
> one of our three little boys had today a violent allergy and has
been sent to the
> hospital. He is safe but he will need further examinations. This of
course will take most
> of my time for the coming days. My family just had a very traumatic
day. Everybody is
> asleep now, I guess I will stay awake for a long while.
> For the elections, I send my congratulations to all candidates and
I would like to thank
> all the Citizens and the Senate for making Nova Roma such a
wonderful place.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Mea Culpas
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:51:44 -0000

Salve,

Mea Culpa, mea culpa. When I rewrote a section in my thank you and
congratulations I forgot to re-insert my congratulations to the other
candidates who were elected to office for the coming year as well as
a thank you to all candidates for offering to run.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Various short messages
From:	"A.Apollonius Cordus" <cordus@dygo.com>
Date:	Sun, 24 Nov 2002 14:54:04 -0800 (PST)

Greetings all,

I've got various little things to say, so I thought I'd put them all in one message rather than clog up your in-boxes.

First: Hello, this is my first post using this e-mail address and indeed this name, because today I've become a citizen. I used to post from 'jamiekjohnston@ etc. etc.', and sign my messages 'Jamie'. I'm proud to say I'm no longer a resident alien but a citizen, and an Apollonius at that! I'd like to extend my thanks to the Censors, to Ti. Apollonius Cicatrix and Sex. Apollonius Scipio, and to M. Minucius Audens, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and C. Fabia Livia for their help with this transfiguration.

Second: My hopes and best wishes to Apollonius Scipio and his family.

Third: Congratulations to all who were elected, commiserations to those who weren't, and good luck to those who are still waiting. Unfortunately I didn't get to vote, being not yet a citizen, and so I think it's only fair that I don't vote in the run-off elections either, but I look forward to seeing our new magistrates put their ideas into action.

Fourth: I think I may have come across rather brusquely in recent posts on the under-age-citizens debate, for which I apologize. I am genuinely interested in understanding the problem and helping to solve it, not simply in using it as material for rhetorical exercises (I'm sure many of us know how easy it is to slip absent-mindedly into this second mode).

Finally: I'm in the chat-room now, if anyone who was making noises about its under-use earlier is still awake!

Cordus

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Various short messages
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 25 Nov 2002 00:22:35 +0100

Salve Honorable Aulus Apollonius Cordus!

It is a pleasure to at last see You as a citizen. It is also good to
know that no longer is a non-citizen more active on the Nova Roma
main list than most citizens. Still I expect You to keep up the good
work and see to it that never again a non-citizen is the most active
mailer to this list. ;-)

On the other hand I could be wrong and we should wish to see more
non-citizens post as much as You have done. But, only of course if
it, as it did in your case, leads them to citizenship! ;-)

>First: Hello, this is my first post using this e-mail address and
>indeed this name, because today I've become a citizen. I used to
>post from 'jamiekjohnston@ etc. etc.', and sign my messages 'Jamie'.
>I'm proud to say I'm no longer a resident alien but a citizen, and
>an Apollonius at that! I'd like to extend my thanks to the Censors,
>to Ti. Apollonius Cicatrix and Sex. Apollonius Scipio, and to M.
>Minucius Audens, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and C. Fabia Livia for
>their help with this transfiguration.

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
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"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

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