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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Funds for Nova Roma
From:	"Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date:	Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:13:16 -0500

Salve Galeri Pauline,

I looked into yor idea with regard to the American state in which I live
(Ohio). As I best understand what is on their website, a "Personalized Logo
Plate" can be ordered by any person registering a vehicle, by requesting
such at the Deputy Registrar's office or by calling or mailing them. So, for
my case, all I would have to do (again, this is only how I understand what
is on the site) is take a picture of the flag or another symbol of Nova Roma
to my nearest licensing station and tell them where I want it on my plate,
pay for it, and be on my way. I'll recieve my plate in the mail.

The problem with this is that it defeats the purpose, as no funding
whatsoever goes back to Nova Roma, except perhaps publicity.

As well, Curator-elect, I shall look forward to the next edition of the
Eagle. Have you yet decided on the price per issue or for a subscription, or
do you prefer to do this as an internet-only thing at first?

Optime Vale,

Sp. Postumius Tubertus,
Retiarius Lacuum Magnorum
Scriba Praetorium
Scriba Curatoris Araneae
Discipolus Anno Tertio Linguae Latinae
Civis Lacuum Magnorum Provinciae
Civis Patriae Novae Romae, Optima Maxima

"There is but one evil: Ignorance" -- Socrates

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Meeting attempt 4
From:	CSSWarspite@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:11:10 EST

Salve
All who reside betwwen Albany NY and NYC I would like to attempt a
meeting is intrested please E mail me off board. I have one young lady from
NYC who has made contact,and I know there has to be more out there.

Marcus Ambrsio Incendium

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Funds for Nova Roma
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:28:48 -0500

Salve Sp. Postumius Tubertus

When I started asking question about the Eagle I was told that the subscription rate is $ 12.00 per year.
I hope to have this as an e-mail newsletter that can be printed to send to those who are not on-line.

We have started to put the January 2756 issue together. The deadline for submissions is December 27 and the target release date is January 15. Any suggestions for content are always welcome. Feel free to send anything you would want included in this or other issues. About the plates you may need to email the State of Ohio and ask about OGANIZATIONAL plates and not just personalized plates. I don't know but they might be different. If Ohio has college and university plates and elk and moose plates then I bet Nova Roma can get a plate.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: Sp. Postumius Tubertus
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:15 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Funds for Nova Roma

Salve Pauline,

I looked into yor idea with regard to the American state in which I live
(Ohio). As I best understand what is on their website, a "Personalized Logo
Plate" can be ordered by any person registering a vehicle, by requesting
such at the Deputy Registrar's office or by calling or mailing them. So, for
my case, all I would have to do (again, this is only how I understand what
is on the site) is take a picture of the flag or another symbol of Nova Roma
to my nearest licensing station and tell them where I want it on my plate,
pay for it, and be on my way. I'll recieve my plate in the mail.

The problem with this is that it defeats the purpose, as no funding
whatsoever goes back to Nova Roma, except perhaps publicity.

As well, Curator-elect, I shall look forward to the next edition of the
Eagle. Have you yet decided on the price per issue or for a subscription, or
do you prefer to do this as an internet-only thing at first?

Optime Vale,

Sp. Postumius Tubertus,
Retiarius Lacuum Magnorum
Scriba Praetorium
Scriba Curatoris Araneae
Discipolus Anno Tertio Linguae Latinae
Civis Lacuum Magnorum Provinciae
Civis Patriae Novae Romae, Optima Maxima

"There is but one evil: Ignorance" -- Socrates

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Funds for Nova Roma
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:02:59 -0800 (PST)

I've looked into plates for the State of Georgia.

First we have to have 500 people willing to pay $25
extra for the tag, and the State keeps all of the
money. This fee has to be paid in advance for the
first 500 tags before any will be produced.

Second private trademarks aren't allowed unless they
are transfered to the state, so our SPQR in a wreath
couldn't be used without losing the trademark.

I'm afraid special tags for Georgia will have to wait
a few years.

--- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@msn.com> wrote:
> Salve Sp. Postumius Tubertus
>
> When I started asking question about the Eagle I was
> told that the subscription rate is $ 12.00 per year.
> I hope to have this as an e-mail newsletter that can
> be printed to send to those who are not on-line.
>
> We have started to put the January 2756 issue
> together. The deadline for submissions is December
> 27 and the target release date is January 15. Any
> suggestions for content are always welcome. Feel
> free to send anything you would want included in
> this or other issues. About the plates you may need
> to email the State of Ohio and ask about
> OGANIZATIONAL plates and not just personalized
> plates. I don't know but they might be different. If
> Ohio has college and university plates and elk and
> moose plates then I bet Nova Roma can get a plate.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sp. Postumius Tubertus
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:15 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Funds for Nova Roma
>
> Salve Pauline,
>
> I looked into yor idea with regard to the American
> state in which I live
> (Ohio). As I best understand what is on their
> website, a "Personalized Logo
> Plate" can be ordered by any person registering a
> vehicle, by requesting
> such at the Deputy Registrar's office or by calling
> or mailing them. So, for
> my case, all I would have to do (again, this is only
> how I understand what
> is on the site) is take a picture of the flag or
> another symbol of Nova Roma
> to my nearest licensing station and tell them where
> I want it on my plate,
> pay for it, and be on my way. I'll recieve my plate
> in the mail.
>
> The problem with this is that it defeats the
> purpose, as no funding
> whatsoever goes back to Nova Roma, except perhaps
> publicity.
>
> As well, Curator-elect, I shall look forward to the
> next edition of the
> Eagle. Have you yet decided on the price per issue
> or for a subscription, or
> do you prefer to do this as an internet-only thing
> at first?
>
> Optime Vale,
>
> Sp. Postumius Tubertus,
> Retiarius Lacuum Magnorum
> Scriba Praetorium
> Scriba Curatoris Araneae
> Discipolus Anno Tertio Linguae Latinae
> Civis Lacuum Magnorum Provinciae
> Civis Patriae Novae Romae, Optima Maxima
>
> "There is but one evil: Ignorance" -- Socrates
>
>
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>
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>
>

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(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.)
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] A question for Paterfamiliae
From:	"Chantal G. Whittington" <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:06:39 -0800 (PST)

Diana--In my opinion, it's certainly reasonable to
expect a prospective gens applicant to at least
introduce him or herself when asking to join a gens.
Anyone writing a letter to anyone should at least do
that.

Cool on the gens Moravia website! I'll go check it
out.

---
Renata Corva

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Eagle Newsletter deadlines and support.
From:	Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:00:31 -0500

Sounds wonderful! Would you be willing to post some more information
about the types of content you're seeking, and a rough idea of your
criteria for selection?

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Open Letter to the Praetor (Third Attempt)
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:12:16 -0600

T Labienus Fortunatus Praetor Aulo Apollonio Cordo Quiritibusque SPD

First, Aule Apolloni, congratulations on your recent grant of civitas,
and thank you for giving me advance notice off-list of your intent to
ask your question a third time. The courtesy is appreciated.

> So, once more, I ask that the Praetor take note of my request
> (message 3514 in the archives, with references in message 3537),
> and state whether he upholds or denies my request, or, failing
> that, to give his reasons for delaying his response and to state
> when he expects to be able to give an answer.

To recap, you are petitioning me to rule that Cornelius Consul's
statements to the effect that an unnamed Senator committed libel against
another unnamed Senator are contrary to the bylaws of this list, based
upon my former collega's statement below:

"One is 'not' free to make suggestive remarks about the competance of
another's policies, character, etc. based on 'incomplete truths', no
written evidence, or other halfspinnings which obscure the past with the
present, rendering said written offering a subject of potential libel,
previously published or not. Legally, a false statement has been
publically asserted, adversely affecting someone else."

The petition having been restated, I hereby deny it on the following
grounds.

The specific guidelines for this list (included at the end of this
message) require civility and good netiquette, but do not mention libel,
potential or otherwise. Therefore, I interpret my former collega's
words as an illustration of the way in which she chose to apply the list
rules. I, on the other hand, have a substantially more laissez-faire
atitude toward list moderation.

Additionally, my former collega was substantially more involved in list
moderation than I was prior to her resignation. Though she defined an
extremely broad policy in the quoted section above, she did not place
either Cornelius Consul or M Minucius (the person most likely to be the
unnamed libellous Senator) on moderation. I take this to indicate that
even she did not mean for the list guidelines to be applied with so
broad a brush.

____________

I. The Nova Roma forum (herein referred to as 'the list') is set up so
that replies will automatically be sent to the entire list. Please keep
this in mind when you are replying. You are not issuing a private
email. If your reply is intended for only one member, and has no
benefit to the rest of the list subscribers, consider sending it privately.

II. "Me too" posts, or "I hear you" posts are not against the law, but
they are discouraged, unless you are expanding on the issue in a way
other than the current facts presented.

III. Please trim your posts!! Some threads can end up being as large
as 50K when all the replies are tagged on to an initial post. This
fills up folks' mailboxes rather rapidly, which can result in their
emails from other venues from being bounced. When you have cut a
portion of another persons post for purposes of brevity, please indicate
you have done so by printing 'snipped' at that spot.

IV. If you feel you must dispute or criticize another person's post,
consider doing so in private. Sometimes a person makes a genuine stake,
and your gentle correction via private email means much more to them
than potentially embarrassing them in the forum over what is an innocent
error. I know that during political debates, private exchanges are
impractical. Please use discretion in this area.

V. It is entirely appropriate to disagree publicaly with another's
stated views or another's actions as they report such, or with the
actions of Nova Roma's Magistrates, Senate or otherwise appointed
officials. Nova Roma is an organization of individuals from a wide
variety of nations, religions, cultural backgrounds and political
viewpoints, and it is only reasonable that our views should differ.

It is not the disagreement per se which is inappropriate, it is the
manner in which we deliver our opposing viewpoints. When expressing
disagreements, the following steps are recommended:

* Express respect for the person and the entitlement to his opinion,
and faith in his or her good intentions.

* Point out any themes in which you do not agree.

* If in the criticism of a person's actions, perhaps in the capacity of
a magistrate or senator, point out specifically which actions you are
referring to...perhaps quote the message number of the post in which you
base your account and opinions. This makes things more objective and
often helpful to the person in question, as to what, specifically, you
are referring to, and your issues with same.

* in an academic debate, endeavor to offer references to back up your
assertions.

* Be pleasant in the expression of your opinion, with respect for the
rights of others to believe differently from you.

* In the case of religious discussions, kindly confine your comments
regarding other religions. It is fine to say that you do not agree with
their spiritual path and why, but it is not ok to disrespect others or
to embarrass them for their beliefs. Treat others as you would like to
be treated. There are many people here, of differing religious
backgrounds. It is a shame for people to feel they must leave because
their religious path is being attacked in the forum. It is not only a
shame, it is against list guidelines and constitutional articles on
discrimination.

Further,it is absolutely 'not' OK to:

use profane language, misrepresent the truth for the purpose of making
another person look foolish, call other's names, criticize a poster's
personal character as opposed to criticizing his ideas, make
derrogatory,belittling, subjective statements about the Gods and
Goddess of Rome (quoting from a myth does not apply) or belittle
deities of other religions for entertainment. Further, in the interests
of those under 18, sexual references must be strictly within the context
of an historical discussion. Otherwise, they are to be made in private.

The arbitrary advertisment of goods and services (SPAM) is not permitted
on the Nova Roma mainlist, unless the advertiser is a member of Nova
Roma's marketplace, the Macellum. Macellum merchants are welcome to
advertise from time to time in a low-key fashion. This entails a
signature line/file, a one-time announcement of initial affiliation with
the Macellum, advertising in response to a post of inquiry made in the
forum, or an ad once every three months or so advertising your presence
in the Macellum.

VI If you read a post which upsets you, and you are angry or sad,
consider replying to the poster in private, telling him how you feel.
Perhaps ask him to clarify his position If you are angry, wait 24 hours
before responding. All too often email can be misinterpreted,
especially if you haven't known the poster for very long. Everyone has
their 'writing style' and it takes time to get to know peoples' various
'expressions'. Quite often no harm or insult was intended at all.

If you would like to talk to me confidentially about a particular post,
please contact me at the above address.

VII: During the time leading up to elections (held each December and
occasionally at other times if offices become vacant) this list is one
of the forums where candidates express their views and present their
qualifications to the populace. All of the strictures governing
appropriate behaviour mentioned hereto, shall remain in place and apply
to all candidates and their supporters.

VII: Please do not give out personal information ie address, phone
number to the list. While it would be pleasant to believe we are all
good-hearted and sane, we are not; you cannot trust in that.
____________

Valete

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] question for the Paterfamilas'
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:25:21 -0600

Salve Diana Moravia

> Is the simple sentence that just repeats what is on page 3 'request
> permission to join gens ____' enough? Or am I being unreasonable in
> requesting more information from applicants?

In my opinion, you're being both reasonable and conscientious when you
do so. I've always demanded that applicants to Gens Labiena be willing
to engage me in at least a little conversation before joining.

Warning: nit-picky Latin stuff follows:
The plural of paterfamilias is patresfamilias. Likewise, materfamiias
becomes matresfamilias.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus
--
"Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what
should I do?"

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] question for the Paterfamilas'
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:38:58 +0100

Salve Fortunatus,
Thanks for the advice. Your website is very nice by the way. I like the way
you made your photos into mosaics.

> Warning: nit-picky Latin stuff follows:
:-)

> The plural of paterfamilias is patresfamilias. Likewise, materfamiias
> becomes matresfamilias.
I would never have guessed to reverse the 'er' into an 'res. I'll keep your
email for future reference (really). I'm hopelessly deficient in Latin.
After learning 3 foreign languages pretty well, I really don't think that I
have any more 'language' space left in my brain. For the last 2 years, I
have even been forgetting English.

Vale,
Diana Moravia Aventina

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Help please
From:	"coriolanvs" <coriolanvs@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:44:41 -0000

Quirites

I was asked by non NR citizen if there is any reenactment group that
is focused (maybe partly) in roman legion of 4th and 5th century.

Can anybody help me?

Gratias Multas

CAIVS MARCIVS CORIOLANVS

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] question for the Paterfamilas'
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:16:44 +0000 (GMT)

-----Original Message-----
>From : Diana Moravia Aventina <diana@pandora.be>
>
> > The plural of paterfamilias is patresfamilias. Likewise, materfamiias
> > becomes matresfamilias.
>I would never have guessed to reverse the 'er' into an 'res. I'll keep

you want to see what happens to Respublica in its various usages! It's not so difficult when you consider first that it's two words combined, second that the plural adds S and the singular really ends in R. Since Romans didn't find Patr and Matr easy to say, they lengthened it whenever there's nothing following. The same applies with the S added. It needs a second syllable. Some people could pronounce the R and then you get related forms like Maatrh and Pitrrnaam.
(There was a funny website up a while ago appealing for vowels for Yugoslavia for places like Srbnista. Croatia itself in its own language is Respublika Hrvnitska, the capital of Slovakia is Brno and Pilsner beer originates from Czech Plsen, so it's not only ancient languages that managed odd sounds).
V. Ambrosius Caesariensis.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Eagle Newsletter deadlines and support.
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:51:19 -0500

Salve,

We need dates of up coming event and the Governors should provide that. We have a fiction article for this issue but could use more in the future. We will have a section on Military matters. If anybody is a cartoonist and would like to do a Roman cartoon that would be great. Just able anything on anything Roman or Nova Roman will make the cut. I have asked the censors if we have birthdays to do a birthday list (day & month only). If someone who is a Latinist would like to do a crossword puzzle that would be great. Pictures from NR event. List the New Citizens. Anything that N.R. wants. There is a column for the Consuls each month called "From where I sit" Any province that would like to include a provincial newsletter can. Letters to the editor section, etc. ANY IDEA WILL BE TRYED.

Vale,

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differium-Elect

----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia Cassia
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:01 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Eagle Newsletter deadlines and support.

Sounds wonderful! Would you be willing to post some more information
about the types of content you're seeking, and a rough idea of your
criteria for selection?

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: From an old newbie to Lady DI
From:	Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:41:50 -0800 (PST)

Welcome back! It's so good to see you here!

Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia

> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 19:05:48 -0000
> From: "Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus"
> <cornmoraviusl@aol.com>
> Subject: From an old newbie to Lady DI
>
> Salvete Diana et Omnes,
>
> I am happy today to report that the censores have
> accepted my
> application and let me return after a long vacation.
> I was also delighted to see how good the Gens
> Moravia web site looks
> (I had no problem downloading it by the way).
> I would like to thank our Mater for all the hard
> work she has put
> this site and offer her my complete support during
> her time as
> Tribuna Plebis.
>
> Optime Valete
>
> Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
>
> PS : When entering the site, which part of Venus
> shoud we click ? ;-)

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Gladitorial Bouts
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:49:04 -0500 (EST)

I am in agreement with Senator Maximus in the view that danger and risk
today is reflective of the eagerness and excitement generated in
spectators of the "blood" sports.

Our activities at the various events in which the Great School of the
Gladiators part of the XXIVth Legion, has drawn spectators is certainly
indicative of the desire of modern people to be part of that involvement
where gladiators battle to the death. At virtually every event, the
Gladiator school has drawn a large audience, and at the "Roman Market
Days" Event the spectators urged the reenactors to provide additional
bouts which had ot been planned.

I know that there are those here who do ot care for reenacting, but in
the arena and on the battlefield, I believe that renacting brings a
great deal to Nova Roma, since it is the only way to come close to the
excitement of a "blood sport" in the modern day, with our modern laws
and restrictions.

As Senator Maximus indicates and I agree that the eagerness for the
"blood sport" excitement seems to be as alive today as it was in ancient
Rome.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Staff for the Eagle: Iithia Cassia and Tiberius Ambrosius Silvus
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:47:25 -0500

Salve,

Based on posts prior to the election both Iithia Cassia and Tiberius Ambrosius Silvus
had expressed some interest in working on the staff of the Eagle. But as both have private e-mail, I need both to e-mail me at spqr753@msn.com to tell be if you are still interested in working on the newsletter. Anybody else for that matter.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differium-Elect

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Open Letter to the Praetor (Third Attempt)
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:40:19 +0000 (GMT)

A. Apollonius Cordus to the Praetor T. Labienus
Fortunatus and all citizens and peregrines, greetings.

My thanks for your ruling in response to my petition.

My intent in making it was not so much to have anyone
ruled in or out of order as to ensure that everyone
was being treated equitably by the same principles.
This you have demonstrated amply, and so although my
petition was denied, I am satisfied that justice has
been done.

Incidentally, I should make it clear to everyone that
the delay in the Praetor's response was mainly due to
a miscommunication on my part which I failed to spot,
and not to any dereliction of duty on his part, or the
part of any other magistrate, as I implied in my last
message on this subject.

Thanks again to the Praetor for his ruling and to
everyone for their patience.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Gladitorial Bouts
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:45:08 +0000 (GMT)

-----Original Message-----
>From : jmath669642reng@webtv.net

I am in agreement with Senator Maximus in the view that danger and risk
>today is reflective of the eagerness and excitement generated in
>spectators of the �blood� sports.
>
I'm quite certain that gladiatorial combat would attract the crowds even in civilised countries just as much as boxing and wrestling used to before it became a farce. It's worth remembering that Republican gladiatorial combat rarely was to the death since the gladiators were valuable income sources. The days of Gauls and Thracians only could perhaps be revived with proper supervision and swords incapable of serious damage. Whether it would be a good idea or not I don't know but the more flamboyant formal combat displays are popular even if Olympic fencing is something of a niche market. I have a personal liking for Kendo but never took it up.
Vib. Ambrosius Caesariensis.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] ELECTION OF DOMINI FACTIONUM FOR 2756 A.U.C.
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:31:37 +0100

Ex Officio Curile Aedile Caeso Fabius Q.

Hereby I ask each citizen who have been competing for a Circenses
Factio to send their (one) vote to Illustrus Franciscus Apulus Caesar
<sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> to elect a Dominus Factionis for
their Factio.

The following candidates have chosen to appear:

Dominus Factionis Veneta: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (Candidate
announced himself)
Dominus Factionis Russata: Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix (Candidate
announced himself)
Dominus Factionis Albatae: Marcus Octavius Solaris (Candidate
announced himself)
Dominus Factionis Praesina: (no Candidate announced himself/herself)

The election will be going on between th 3rd of December to the 8th
of December.

Eeven if there is only one candidfate in three Factiones, please vote
for them!!!

Votes should be sent to Illustrus Franciscus Apulus Caesar
<sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>

PLEASE VOTE!
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Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
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