| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] FYI Seven Wonders of the Modern World |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:54:39 -0500 |
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A group of students were asked to list what they thought were the present
Seven Wonders of the World.
Though there was some disagreement, the following got the most votes:
1. Egypt's Great Pyramids
2. the Taj Mahal
3. the Grand Canyon
4. the Panama Canal
5. the Empire State Building
6. St. Peter's Basilica
7. China's Great Wall.
While gathering the votes, the teacher noted that one quiet student hadn't
turned in her paper yet, so she asked the girl if she was having trouble
with her list.
The girl replied, "Yes, a little. I couldn't quite make up my mind because
there were so many."
The teacher said, "Well, tell us what you have, and maybe we can help."
The girl hesitated a moment, but then began reading her list.
"I think the seven wonders of the world are:
1. to touch
2. to taste
3. to see
4. to hear -- she hesitated a little, and then added:
5. to feel
6. to laugh
7. and to love.
The room was so full of silence, you could have heard a pin drop.
Those things we overlook as simple and "ordinary" are truly wondrous -- a
gentle reminder that the most precious things are in front of you.
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Oath of Office as Curator Differium |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:43:36 -0500 |
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Oath of Office as
Curator Differium By
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus ,do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Curator Differium to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Curator Differium and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc (1 January 2003).
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:44:56 -0500 |
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EDICTVM CVRATORIS DIFFERIUM
The Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium
E Domo Curatoris Differium
Titus Arminius Genialis, Iulia Aenea Apollonia Musa,
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix Gaius Galerius Peregrinator,
Marcus Iulius Perusianus, Gaius Lanius Falco and G. Modius Athanasius
are hereby appointed Scriba Curatoris Differium effective
Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc (1 January 2003).
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator
26 December 2755
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Quaestor |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:45:37 -0500 |
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Oath of Office as
Quaestor By
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus ,do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc (1 January 2003).
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: ???? |
| From: |
"T.Cornelivs Romanvs <titan_242002@yahoo.com>" <titan_242002@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:47:35 -0000 |
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Salvete and thanks for the help.T.Cornelius Romanvs
>
> Old religion: religio antiqua or religio vetus
> Goddess: dea
> Lord: dominus
>
> ***
>
> Quinte, as "religio" is a female word, "antiquus" is
declined. "Vetus" is not because it belongs to the third
declension. "Diva" is wrong because it is the adjective and
means "divine". It might be used as a substantive (I'm not sure) but
in any case, "dea" is a better alternative :).
>
> Valete bene!
> M. Octavius Solaris
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] complaint |
| From: |
"M. Flavius Aurelius" <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:55:35 +1100 |
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As someone who has operated lists via Yahoo, I can advise that these
problems are common, and if I could afford a different service, then I'd use
it. Missing messages, changing statuses of subscribers, messages
disappearing into the void, lists that don't obey the rules set for them.
All quite normal.
Galerius, if the moderators say you aren't moderated, then you aren't. If
the yahoo service has glitches, then blame it, not the moderators. And even
if your posts *are* being moderated, that doesn't mean everyone else cannot
read them, but that they get approved first, so what?
Five minutes for messages to show up? Gods! That's pretty good for a mail
server. Especially a free one.
Moderators - I recommend pointing out to everyone who subscribes that if
they want a better service, they can pay for it. Better list software and
services exist. But for free? Never.
Marcus Flavius Aurelius
Durovernium, Australia Orientalis Superior
marcus.flavius@bigpond.com
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Oath of Office as Curator Differium |
| From: |
"deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:09:12 -0000 |
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Salve Curator Differum-Elect,
While I applaud your enthusiasm to assume your offices, just a
friendly reminder that this oath and the one for quaestor is not
valid and will have to be officially taken on the 1st or after and
not just dated on the 1st. Think of yourself as standing before us
taking this oath when the new year turns.
The Lex Cassia Iunia de Iusiurando (which amedned the Lex Iunia
Iusiurando states: "The following oath must be taken publicly in the
major public forums of Nova Roma before someone elected or appointed
to any magistracy can assume his or her office. It must be taken on
the day, or as soon as possible afterwards, that the office is to be
assumed. The office shall be considered vacant until the oath is
taken."
Vale,
Decius Iunius Palladius,
Senator
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Oath of Office as
> Curator Differium By
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus ,do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in
the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
> As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius
Galerius Paulinus swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in
my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and
private life.
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova
Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status
as the State Religion.
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus further
swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office
of Curator Differium to the best of my abilities.
> On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Curator Differium and all the rights,
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
> Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc (1 January 2003).
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Oath of Office as Curator Differium |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:18:00 -0500 |
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Salve Senator I had asked before I sent this if it would be ok as I might not be "Up and Around " GRIN on the 1st and I was told that sending it early would not be a problem. The person that gave me this information shall remain nameless as the mistake is mind and not theirs.
Vale
Tiberius (hides until the first)
----- Original Message -----
From: deciusiunius
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 1:12 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Oath of Office as Curator Differium
Salve Curator Differum-Elect,
While I applaud your enthusiasm to assume your offices, just a
friendly reminder that this oath and the one for quaestor is not
valid and will have to be officially taken on the 1st or after and
not just dated on the 1st. Think of yourself as standing before us
taking this oath when the new year turns.
The Lex Cassia Iunia de Iusiurando (which amedned the Lex Iunia
Iusiurando states: "The following oath must be taken publicly in the
major public forums of Nova Roma before someone elected or appointed
to any magistracy can assume his or her office. It must be taken on
the day, or as soon as possible afterwards, that the office is to be
assumed. The office shall be considered vacant until the oath is
taken."
Vale,
Decius Iunius Palladius,
Senator
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Oath of Office as
> Curator Differium By
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus ,do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in
the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
> As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius
Galerius Paulinus swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in
my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and
private life.
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova
Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status
as the State Religion.
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
> I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus further
swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office
of Curator Differium to the best of my abilities.
> On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Curator Differium and all the rights,
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
> Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc (1 January 2003).
>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Apollonia Acta |
| From: |
Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 03:33:43 -0800 (PST) |
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Salvete Omnes,
Apollonia Acta will not be printed this week and next week. We hope that you are not too
sad about this!! We will come back as normal next year.
Valete,
=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Yes The Eagle Again! |
| From: |
"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:31:45 +0100 |
|
Salve Tiberius,
> Salve Nova Romans The staff of the Eagle would like to include a
"personal column" in the > newsletter.
I like this idea! Besides so very many experts on Roman subjects, many of
our citizens have expertise in other areas, which never comes up on the NR
lists.
>the name of the upcoming book you are about to publish or where we can see
you most recent article.
Good idea. Off the top of my head, I remember once that Octavius posted that
he had written a book on cemetaries. I found that pretty interesting plus we
can support our friends by buying their books!
>We are a community in the making and we should get to know each other
better.
Sounds good!
Vale & looking forward to the first issue of the Eagle!
Diana Moravia Aventina
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] FYI Seven Wonders of the Modern World |
| From: |
"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 08:52:04 -0600 |
|
She also got an "F".
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Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] FYI Seven Wonders of the Modern World
A group of students were asked to list what they thought were the present
Seven Wonders of the World.
Though there was some disagreement, the following got the most votes:
1. Egypt's Great Pyramids
2. the Taj Mahal
3. the Grand Canyon
4. the Panama Canal
5. the Empire State Building
6. St. Peter's Basilica
7. China's Great Wall.
While gathering the votes, the teacher noted that one quiet student hadn't
turned in her paper yet, so she asked the girl if she was having trouble
with her list.
The girl replied, "Yes, a little. I couldn't quite make up my mind because
there were so many."
The teacher said, "Well, tell us what you have, and maybe we can help."
The girl hesitated a moment, but then began reading her list.
"I think the seven wonders of the world are:
1. to touch
2. to taste
3. to see
4. to hear -- she hesitated a little, and then added:
5. to feel
6. to laugh
7. and to love.
The room was so full of silence, you could have heard a pin drop.
Those things we overlook as simple and "ordinary" are truly wondrous -- a
gentle reminder that the most precious things are in front of you.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Latin HELP? Please |
| From: |
"Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis" <pitrinius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:00:48 -0800 |
|
VII Kal. IANVARIAS MMDCCLV
SAXUS GALERIO SALUTEM
Well met, amice.
> I looked up recenseo, the verb, and it implies count and review,
>connected to count and numbers, not of quality.
When recensere was later applied to literary texts, it adopted, according to
Lewis and Short, the following senses:
"III. Trop., to go over in thought, in narration, or in critical treatment,
to reckon up, recount, review, revise."
Another example from Aulus Gellius (C.AE. 123 - c. 165) serves to illuminate
the point, when in Noctes Atticae "sed quae procrastinata sunt ab eo, ut
post recenserentur [poemata]," (17.10.6.1) refers to an examination of the
Aeneid according to both edition (the establishment of the raw text) and
meaning (its comparison, for instance, with Pindar's poetry).
>also, aren't we doing the literal translation here?
Not necessarily; "literal translation" is a deadly vice. Although
servicable in school on account of diaphanous structures and a "one-to-one"
relationship, it ultimately impedes native insight. Native insight is
achieved above all when we've forged an immediate relationship to the
language, undistracted by translation and crude mechanisms of understanding.
Only then can we achieve a living communication, and that seldom happens
"literally".
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Yes The Eagle Again! |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:36:55 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salve Diana,
> >the name of the upcoming book you are about to publish or where we can see
> you most recent article.
> Good idea. Off the top of my head, I remember once that Octavius posted that
> he had written a book on cemetaries. I found that pretty interesting plus we
> can support our friends by buying their books!
Thanks for the plug. :)
"Graveyards of Chicago", and Patricia Cassia's book "Celtic Wicca",
are both listed in our Macellum's Amazon bookstore at:
http://www.novaroma.org/macellum/bookstore.html
If you buy from there, Nova Roma gets about 10%.
Vale, Octavius.
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Consul of Nova Roma
Censor-Elect 2756
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Oath |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:08:59 -0500 (EST) |
|
Senator Palladius;
The error of giving the Oath early on the part Of Curator Differum
Tiberius was mine. He asked me, and I indicated that since he would
not be available on or near the 1st of January, that I saw no problem
with issueing the Oath a few days early, particularly since he has
worked so hard, to insure that an issue of the "Eagle" would be ready to
be issued on the 1st of the year, and I felt that it was appropriate
that the Citizens of Nova Roma should be made aware that the office of
Curator Differum which in past years has been abandoned or badly
neglected, had been undertaken by a gentleman full of eagerness for the
task. However, I neglected to survey the Constitution in detail, before
making a reply to this young man, therefore I take responsibility, for
his breach.
He has been an eager young man, and has done an excellent job so far in
an effort to maintain and re-establish "Eagle" to a monthly publication,
filled with news and thereby making a strong reflection of this aspect
of Nova Roma's world. He has taken a strong interest in his new duties
and made a good start in gathering material, staff and significant
support. Far better than some of the past elected "Eagle"
administrators. Further, in my particular case he has been attentive to
reply to my messages and to my suggestions, poor though they may have
been. Such response has not always been available from some past
elected officers in this position.
Yes, you are quite correct in your strict reminder of the letter of the
law. My answer to Curator Tiberius was in error. I very much
appreciate your taking the time and effort to determine and make public
this error of mine, providing the Constitution's wording, and correcting
this breach of the law. However, I beg that you will not hold it
against the Curator Differum Tiberius, but rather will lay this
unfortunate situation at my door instead.
I welcome this opportunity to make all the Nova Roma Citizens aware of
this young man's strong and immediate industry in his new position and
rather daunting task, even at the price of making all aware of my error.
Perhaps in the future you will consider a private warning to others who
violate the Consttitution unwittingly, and allow them to make a
correction themselves rather than subject anyone to a public
embarrassment without first trying to deal with the personage in
private. Of course, this is merely a suggestion on my part, and your
must deal with such a "grievious error" as you see fit as a Senator and
Proconsul.
In closing you and the Citizens of Nova Roma, have my apologies for my
error, and my thanks for your energy in correcting such, in this concise
and timely manner.
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] FYI Seven Wonders of the Modern World |
| From: |
"M. Octavius Solaris" <scorpioinvictus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:30:10 +0100 |
|
Salve Gai Basilicate,
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] FYI Seven Wonders of the Modern World
<< She also got an "F". >>
Quoting the British rock singer R. Ashcroft: "When you say you like that little flower over there, you become vulnerable in the mind of the asshole who tramples it under your very eyes."
Vale,
Solaris
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Oath |
| From: |
"deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:45:26 -0000 |
|
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, jmath669642reng@w... wrote:
> Senator Palladius;
Proconsul Audens,
I am sorry you have taken this so personally as to wax eloquently,
subtly and with such brevity on the finer points of previous Eagle
administrations. My correction was I thought a gentle and simple
reminder on a point of law, something we should not forget,
Proconsul. It is a reminder which in my experience had to be made
before the turn of the year. It was not my intent to cause
embarassment. I was not calling into question the man's enthusiasm or
ability, if anything it is a compliment to it as it is obvious he is
already working hard. In my contact with him he has been polite, open
to suggestions and full of energy. I have no doubt the Eagle will be
excellent.
Vale,
Decius Iunius Palladius
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] re: Oath |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:01:50 EST |
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In a message dated 12/27/02 8:10:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jmath669642reng@webtv.net writes:
> Perhaps in the future you will consider a private warning to others who
> violate the Consttitution unwittingly, and allow them to make a
> correction themselves rather than subject anyone to a public
> embarrassment without first trying to deal with the personage in
> private. Of course, this is merely a suggestion on my part, and your
> must deal with such a "grievious error" as you see fit as a Senator and
> Proconsul.
>
Senator,
I am confused. Are you saying the correction should be made in private to
spare embarassment, or that we just open the door to other constitional
mistakes? I felt that
Iunius was quite forthright in point, the young man accepted it as such, and
we moved on. Other potentials read the statement, which stopped their oaths
from happening prematurly, if any had planned to do so.
If guilt forces you to set the record straight so be it. But was the 6th
paragraph of your monologue really needed?
IO Saturnalia
Q. Fabius Maximus
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Re: [Nova-Roma] complaint |
| From: |
"Gaius Galerius Peregrinator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:46:53 +0000 |
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Salve Flavii Aurelii:
I am not trying to attack anybody. The moderator, who is an honourable
man, took offense and certainly it was not my intention.
I simply have a mailing problem that is not unique. Other members of
the list, and they are many, have the same problem and that's why I came out
public. And no, it is not the delay that bothers me as much, but its
messing up the format which I noticed happened to your post too.
It seems clear, now, that the problem is not caused by the list being
moderated. I noticed that all the hotmail members get the same problem, the
AOL too. I am painfully aware that Yahoo is cheap, and wish that everybody
would pay their taxes that we could afford a list that is up to the
standards.
Vale
Galerius Peregrinator.
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From: "M. Flavius Aurelius" <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com>
Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] complaint
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:55:35 +1100
As someone who has operated lists via Yahoo, I can advise that these
problems are common, and if I could afford a different service, then I'd use
it. Missing messages, changing statuses of subscribers, messages
disappearing into the void, lists that don't obey the rules set for them.
All quite normal.
Galerius, if the moderators say you aren't moderated, then you aren't. If
the yahoo service has glitches, then blame it, not the moderators. And even
if your posts *are* being moderated, that doesn't mean everyone else cannot
read them, but that they get approved first, so what?
Five minutes for messages to show up? Gods! That's pretty good for a mail
server. Especially a free one.
Moderators - I recommend pointing out to everyone who subscribes that if
they want a better service, they can pay for it. Better list software and
services exist. But for free? Never.
Marcus Flavius Aurelius
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Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Latin HELP? Please |
| From: |
"Gaius Galerius Peregrinator" <gaiusgalerius@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:48:22 +0000 |
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Salve Pitrinii Atheniensis:
I feared you may have to go through too much trouble digging it up, but
it was too late. I had already put out the post.
I appreciate that, thank you very much.
Vale
Galerius Peregrinator.
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From: "Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis" <pitrinius@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Latin HELP? Please
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:00:48 -0800
VII Kal. IANVARIAS MMDCCLV
SAXUS GALERIO SALUTEM
Well met, amice.
> I looked up recenseo, the verb, and it implies count and review,
>connected to count and numbers, not of quality.
When recensere was later applied to literary texts, it adopted, according to
Lewis and Short, the following senses:
"III. Trop., to go over in thought, in narration, or in critical treatment,
to reckon up, recount, review, revise."
Another example from Aulus Gellius (C.AE. 123 - c. 165) serves to illuminate
the point, when in Noctes Atticae "sed quae procrastinata sunt ab eo, ut
post recenserentur [poemata]," (17.10.6.1) refers to an examination of the
Aeneid according to both edition (the establishment of the raw text) and
meaning (its comparison, for instance, with Pindar's poetry).
>also, aren't we doing the literal translation here?
Not necessarily; "literal translation" is a deadly vice. Although
servicable in school on account of diaphanous structures and a "one-to-one"
relationship, it ultimately impedes native insight. Native insight is
achieved above all when we've forged an immediate relationship to the
language, undistracted by translation and crude mechanisms of understanding.
Only then can we achieve a living communication, and that seldom happens
"literally".
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