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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Sacrifice for the New Year
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:00:43 -0600

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

This morning, I performed a sacrifice of incense and wine to Iuppiter,
Iuno, and Minerva for the health and welfare of the Res Publica and the
Senate, using the form of the Saturnalia ritual posted earlier by
Pontifex Antonius Gryllus. Capite velato, I invited the God and
Goddesses to attend the rite with the words:

"Deus Iuppiter, as it is proper to offer to you on the Kalends of
Ianuarius for the health of the Res Publica and the Senate, for this I
offer a sacrifice of incense and wine to you. I pray to you so that you
may be willingly propitious to the health of the Res Publica and Senate,
and so that you may accept this sacrifice of incense and wine."

(repeated for Dea Iuno and Dea Minerva)

Receiving no ill omens, I washed my hands and offered first
frankincense, then good red wine to each in turn with the words:

"Deus Iuppiter, for the health of the Res Publica and Senate shall you
be honored with incense. Make yourself willingly propitious to the
health of the Res Publica and Senate."

(repeated for Dea Iuno and Dea Minerva)

"Deus Iuppiter, for the same reason shall you be honored with this wine.
Make yourself willingly propitious to the health of the Res Publica
and Senate."

(repeated for Dea Iuno and Dea Minerva)

Then, I kissed my right hand as a sign of reverence and declared the
ritual to be finished.

Other than a little difficulty with an uncooperative toga prior to the
ritual, all else went smoothly. I made no mistakes during the rite, and
no ill omens were witnessed.

Valete

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath as Accensus
From:	"Alejandro Carneiro <piteas@telefonica.net>" <piteas@telefonica.net>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:20:53 -0000

I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Consul
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such
action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best
of my Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Ordinarius with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Kal Ian MMDCCLVI AUC (1st of January 2003).

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:11:54 -0600

I'll do it. I've had two courses in law school and numerous ones in college. The Twelve Tables, the Institutes of Gaius, the Corpus Juris Civilis, and the various codifications courtesy of Theodosious(sp?) and Justinian. Its been a while. I wrote a semester paper in law school on the status of women in Roman Law. I'm your man.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Gallagher
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"

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From: quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Muscled Cuirass
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:12:25 -0600

cool

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----- Original Message -----
From: G.Porticus Brutis
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Muscled Cuirass

I know this is kind of late but I know what your looking for I've been looking for some time.My wife loves to see me in iron! If you want a few names I can help you out.It will take a few days to look through my tons of papers but I've got just the sites your looking for.
G.Porticus Brutis
Gaius Basilicatus Agricola <jlasalle@kc.rr.com> wrote: I need, and I mean I need, a muscled roman cuirass. I've thought about lorica segmenta, and chainmail; but I want Armour that represents truly my fine body musculature. Anybody know where I can get one?

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:25:04 -0500

Salve GREAT we have a piece for February so no need to rush but just in case that law article falls through you have until Jan 27th THANKS
please joinnovaromaeagle@yahoogroups
Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:22 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

I'll do it. I've had two courses in law school and numerous ones in college. The Twelve Tables, the Institutes of Gaius, the Corpus Juris Civilis, and the various codifications courtesy of Theodosious(sp?) and Justinian. Its been a while. I wrote a semester paper in law school on the status of women in Roman Law. I'm your man.

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Kansas City, Missouri 64106
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Gallagher
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"

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----- Original Message -----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Sacrifice for the New Year
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:28:40 EST

In a message dated 1/1/03 4:04:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
labienus@novaroma.org writes:

> I made no mistakes during the rite, and no ill omens were witnessed.
>

Thank you Consul. A fine start to a most important year.

Q. Fabius Maximus
Pontiff

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Scriba Censoris Oath
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:58:36 -0000

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Censor Marcus Octavius Germanicus while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Censoris to the best of
my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour,
do I accept the position of Scriba Censoris with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given this day, KAL. IAN. MMDCCLVI A.U.C.

---
Vivat Nova Roma aeterna res publica nostra!
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Scriba Censoris, MMDCCLVI
Accensa Senior Tertia, Cohors Consularis, MMDCCLVI
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae, MMDCCLVI
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Scriba Curator Araneae Oath
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 01:02:16 -0000

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Curator Araneum Titus Octavius Pius while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curator Araneum to the
best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour,
do I accept the position of Scriba Curator Araneum with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given this day, KAL. IAN. MMDCCLVI A.U.C.

---
Vivat Nova Roma aeterna res publica nostra!
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Scriba Censoris, MMDCCLVI
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath as Accensus Ordinarius
From:	Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:08:36 -0800 (PST)

OATH as Accensus Ordinarius

I, Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when
such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia, swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any
information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Ordinarius with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

=====
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http://www.gensmoravia.org

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] My internet connection
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:32:15 +0100

Salvete Quirites, et salve Quintius Fabius Maximus!

I thank Quintius Fabius Maximus for his advice and counsel. I shall
consider his, and all others', advice carefully as I go about my
duties and responsibilities as Senior Consul according to my plans
and promises for this year.

> As you take your first tentative steps holding the fasces this day,
> I thought I would give you some advice as one who has been there,
> and completed the office. [...]
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Rogator for Nova Roma
From:	Legion XXIV <legionxxiv@comcast.net>
Date:	Wed, 01 Jan 2003 20:30:57 -0500

Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator for Nova Roma

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas (George W. Metz) of my own free will and
accord, in the presence of the Gods, Senate and People of Nova Roma;
do hereby and herein; most solemnly, sincerely, and truly; promise,
declare and swear that I will serve as Rogator, will uphold the honor
of Nova Roma, and will always act in the best interests of the Senate
and People of Nova Roma.

I do further promise and vow, to keep, support, maintain and abide by,
all the Ancient Usage's, Customs and Landmarks of Ancient Rome, along
with the Constitution, Laws and Edicts of Nova Roma.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma and as Praefectus of Legion XXIV
do I, by the will and favor of the Senate and People of NovaRoma, accept
the position of Rogator with all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities thereof and do further pledge the forces of Legion XXIV
to the enforcement and protection of the Laws and Rules required for the
proper and lawful conduct of elections by the citizens of Nova Roma.

I do further promise and vow to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities
of the office of Rogator to the best of my abilities, and will serve as a
Rogator of NovaRoma for the Roman Year 2756 AUC, beginning this
day or until my successor is duly qualified.

To all of which I swear, without any equivocation, mental reservation or
self evasion of mind in me whatever; but with a firm and steadfast resolution
to keep and perform the same.

So Help Me God and Keep Me Steadfast.

Gallio Velius Marsallas aka George W. Metz
www.legionxxiv.org

Jan 1, 2003
IANVARIVS 1ST MMDCCLVI


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Edictum Primum Consularis Labieni: Accensi
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:48:38 -0600

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

Lucius Sicinius Drusus is hereby appointed as my Accensus.

Gaius Popillius Laenas is hereby appointed as my Accensus.

Gaius Marius Merullus and Marcus Octavius Solaris are hereby appointed
as my Accensi. Their primary duty shall be to translate the edicta,
leges, and other public declarations made by me during my tenure into
Latin prior to publication.

I would also like to note how extremely pleased I am to be working once
more with C Marius. While I served as his collega when we were
rogatores, and while I worked as his scriba during his term as censor
suffectus, he constantly impressed me with his industry and ethics.
It's a pleasure to have him on my staff.

Valete

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of office as Accensa
From:	Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:11:47 -0500

I, Patricia Cassia, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such action would be
illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Patricia Cassia, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Accensa Magna to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Patricia Cassia, swear to give faithful service to my magistrate,
and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I
understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Accensa Magna with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In addition, I hereby ask the goddess Minerva to guide and inspire Nova
Roma with wisdom, that our nation may be favored with growth and new
opportunities in the year ahead, and that we may seize those
opportunities to further our highest goals.

It should be noted that my service to Consul Caeso Fabius in no way
diminishes my respect for, nor my willingness to assist, Consul Titus
Labienus, for my respect for both men is great.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Witness to the passing of imperium
From:	Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:15:01 -0500

I, Patricia Cassia, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium -- the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly
elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that
this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in
the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath: Accensus Ordinarius to Senior Consul
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:23:45 +0000 (GMT)

A. Apollonius Cordus to all citizens and peregrines,
greetings.

Here is my oath, in accordance with the Edictum
Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda
(the First Consular edict CFQ on the establishment of
the Cohors Consulis CFQ), paragraph X.

I, Aulus Apollonius Cordus, do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in
the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
while I hold this office, except when such action
would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Aulus Apollonius Cordus, further swear to fulfill
the obligations and Responsibilities of the office of
Accensus Ordinarius (Assistant Ordinary) to the best
of my Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Aulus Apollonius Cordus, swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any
information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Ordinarius (Assistant Ordinary) with all
the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.

=====

www.strategikon.org

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Second and Legal Oath as a Rogator for Nova Roma
From:	Legion XXIV <legionxxiv@comcast.net>
Date:	Wed, 01 Jan 2003 21:38:28 -0500

OK, Here is my legal oath as Rogator, as my first Oath was deemed
to be not legal and in conformance with the Lex of Nova Roma.
I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, George W. Metz, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a Rogator of Nova Roma, I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Rogator to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Rogator and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Kalendae, Januarii, MMDCCLVI, AUC (1st day of January, 2003).

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:06:51 -0500

EDICTVM CVRATORIS DIFFERIUM
The Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium
E Domo Curatoris Differium
F. Galerius Aurelanus Secundus & Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis

are hereby appointed Scriba Curatoris Differium effective Today the
Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc 1 January 2003.
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:21:15 -0500

Salve Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

I was just rereading you email and the LIGHT when on!!!!

You say you wrote in law school a paper on Women in Roman Law. How about ,in addition to the Eagle Newsletter, the staff of the Curator Differium was to publish a scholarly journal on ROMAN anything. MA dissertations, PhD dissertation, Term paper whatever as long as it on Rome and is good. Do you still have you Women in Roman Law paper? We publish in book form. maybe some in Latin?

What do you think of this Idea?

Tiberius

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

I'll do it. I've had two courses in law school and numerous ones in college. The Twelve Tables, the Institutes of Gaius, the Corpus Juris Civilis, and the various codifications courtesy of Theodosious(sp?) and Justinian. Its been a while. I wrote a semester paper in law school on the status of women in Roman Law. I'm your man.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"

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----- Original Message -----
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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
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Three way road is trivia.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of office as Prolegatus Regionis
From:	"Jonas Nilsson" <xkrull@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:22:06 +0100

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Prolegatus Regionis
Suecicae to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Prolegatus Regionis Suecicae and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Witness to the passing of imperium
From:	<3s@hsk-net.de>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:05:45 -0600 (CST)

I, Caius Flavius Diocletianus, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2756 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Caius Flavius Diocletianus
Censor, Senator
Lictor

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Fwd: [Conclavis_Praeparatio_Cohors_Consulis] Please swear the OATH as an Accensus or Accensa
From:	Manius Constantinus Serapio <mcserapio@yahoo.it>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:11:01 -0800 (PST)

CIVES NOVAE ROMAE

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when
such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of Accensus Senior Primus to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I,Manius Constantinus Serapio swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any
information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Senior Primus with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

OPTIME VALETE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Legatvs Externis Rebvs Provinciae Italiae
Accensvs Senior Primvs Consvlis Senioris
Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Quaestor
From:	Manius Constantinus Serapio <mcserapio@yahoo.it>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:20:49 -0800 (PST)

CIVES NOVAE ROMAE

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Manius Constantinus
Serapio (Simone Lattes) swear to honor the Gods and
Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue
the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) swear
to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) further
swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities
of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

OPTIME VALETE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Qvaestor
Legatvs Externis Rebvs Provinciae Italiae
Accensvs Senior Primvs Consvlis Senioris
Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] oath of office
From:	Caius Curius Saturninus <c.curius@welho.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:56:42 +0200

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office,
except when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and Responsibilities of the office of Accensus
Superior Primus (Ductor Cohortis) to the best of my Abilities while
following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa) swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the
discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Superior Primus (Ductor
Cohortis) with all the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.

--
Caius Curius Saturninus

Legatus Regionis Finnicae
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Praeses et Triumvir Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@welho.com
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] our visit to Propraetorium Thules
From:	Caius Curius Saturninus <c.curius@welho.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:01:30 +0200

Salvete omnes,

I and Emilia Curia Finnica spent our last days of 2002 in the Sweden
as guests of now Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus. We enjoyed
our stay there and Caeso appeared to be a wonderful host. We had
great time, thanks Caeso and everyone who also were there! You can
read short diary and see some pictures at:

http://www.insulaumbra.com/regiofinnica/triptopropraetorium/index.html

Valete,
--
Caius Curius Saturninus

Legatus Regionis Finnicae
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Praeses et Triumvir Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] oath as accensus
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:52:14 +0000 (GMT)

Salvete

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of senior consul Caeso
Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of accensus ordinarius to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, swear to give
faithful service to my magistrate, and not to divulge
any information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of accensus ordinarius with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete bene

=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
----------
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] oath as scriba curatoris differium
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:57:52 +0000 (GMT)

Salvete

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of curator differium
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus while I hold this office,
except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of scriba curatoris differium to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, swear to give
faithful service to my magistrate, and not to divulge
any information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of scriba curatoris differium with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete bene

=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
----------
Dominus Factionis Russatae
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
Scriba Propraetoris Galliae
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Quaestor
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:30:46 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate
of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of
the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and
all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath as Accensus Superior Quartus
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:37:59 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) , do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo), further swear to fulfill the obligations
and Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Superior Quartus to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo), swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I understand that
I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of
the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Accensus
Superior Quartus with all the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant
thereto.

Valete,

=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Iuramenta - Plebeian Aedile
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:26:41 -0300 (ART)

Salvete omnia,

The gods are awaiting, so...

Ego, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) hoc ipso facto sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere. Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos)
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.

Ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) Romanam religionem favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat. Praeterea ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) IVRO quam optime fungi officium muneris Aedili Plebis.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Aedili Plebi ACCIPIO una cum iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Brasilia Provincia, 02 Ianuarius, anno MMDCCLVI A.V.C.

____________________________________________________________

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , por meio deste solenemente juro guardar a honra de Nova Roma, e trabalhar sempre para os melhores interesses do Senado e povo de Nova Roma.

Como um magistrado de Nova Roma, Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos), juro honrar os Deuses e Deusas de Roma nas minhas atividades p�blicas, bem como almejar as virtudes p�blicas romanas na minha vida p�blica e privada.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , juro sustentar e defender a Religio Romana como a Religi�o Estatal de Nova Roma e juro nunca agir de forma que v� amea�ar sua posi��o como religi�o oficial.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , juro proteger e defender a constitui��o de Nova Roma.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , no mais juro cumprir as obriga��es e responsabilidades do cargo de edil plebeu no melhor de minhas habilidades.

Pela minha honra como cidad�o de Nova Roma, na presen�a dos Deuses e Deusas do Povo Romano, pelas suas merc�s e favores, aceito a magistratura de edil plebeu bem como todos seus direitos, privil�gios, obriga��es e responsabilidades decorrentes de agora em diante.

____________________________________________________________

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of plebeian aedile to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of plebeain aedile and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete,

L. Arminius Faustus

Senior Aedilis Plebis, Questor,

Interpreter (portuguese chair), Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae.

Visit my office at http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lafaustus/index.html

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Iliad, Homer, book XX

The answer of Hector about Achilles' speeches.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Iuramenta - quaestor
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:13:22 -0300 (ART)

Finally the Caqui Party has stopped on Announce List!

Ego, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) hoc ipso facto sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere. Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos)
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.

Ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) Romanam religionem favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat. Praeterea ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) IVRO quam optime fungi officium muneris Quaestori.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Quaestori ACCIPIO una cum iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Brasilia Provincia, 02 Ianuarius, anno MMDCCLVI A.V.C.

____________________________________________________________

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , por meio deste solenemente juro guardar a honra de Nova Roma, e trabalhar sempre para os melhores interesses do Senado e povo de Nova Roma.

Como um magistrado de Nova Roma, Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos), juro honrar os Deuses e Deusas de Roma nas minhas atividades p�blicas, bem como almejar as virtudes p�blicas romanas na minha vida p�blica e privada.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , juro sustentar e defender a Religio Romana como a Religi�o Estatal de Nova Roma e juro nunca agir de forma que v� amea�ar sua posi��o como religi�o oficial.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , juro proteger e defender a constitui��o de Nova Roma.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) , no mais juro cumprir as obriga��es e responsabilidades do cargo de questor no melhor de minhas habilidades.

Pela minha honra como cidad�o de Nova Roma, na presen�a dos Deuses e Deusas do Povo Romano, pelas suas merc�s e favores, aceito a magistratura de questor bem como todos seus direitos, privil�gios, obriga��es e responsabilidades decorrentes de agora em diante.

____________________________________________________________

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (Andr� L. Santos) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

L. Arminius Faustus

Senior Aedilis Plebis, Questor,

Interpreter (portuguese chair), Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae.

Visit my office at http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lafaustus/index.html

I too in words could fight even Immortals...

Iliad, Homer, book XX

The answer of Hector about Achilles' speeches.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Witness to the passing of imperium
From:	"Cheri Henderson <teleriferchnyfain@yahoo.com>" <teleriferchnyfain@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:57:10 -0000

I, Helena Galeria Aureliana, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the
Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium --
the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly
elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2756 AUC. I acknowledge
that
this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates
in
the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the
Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Helena Galeria - who posted for the wrong year previously :(

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath as Accensus Ordinarius
From:	PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:02:27 -0500

I, Flavius Galerius Aurelianus Secundus (aka Patrick D. Owen), do hereby solemnly swear to uphod the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Flavius Galerius Aurelianus Secundus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Flavius Galerius Aurelianus Secundus, swear to give faithful service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman People & the Gens Galeria, and by Their will and favor, do I accept the position of Accensus Ordinarius with all the obligations and responsibilities attendant thereto.

ante diem IV Nones Ian MMDCCLVI AUC (2nd January 2003 C.E.)

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Vesting of Imperium
From:	TiAnO <tiberius_ann@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:27:17 -0800 (PST)

Salvete Quirites,

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold
the laws -- to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755
AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond
bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Valete in pace deorum et curate ut valeatis, TiAnO

Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO)
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office - Translator for German
From:	TiAnO <tiberius_ann@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:47:14 -0800 (PST)

Salvete Quirites,
I come here before you this day, to swear my oath for another year in the position of the officially appointed translator for the German language. This position, so I was told, is a magistracy and therefore I find it only fair, that I renew the oath I took, when I was appointed. After the English text, a German version will follow.
Ich trete heute vor Euch, um meinen Eid f�r ein weiteres Jahr als offiziell ernannter �bersetzer f�r die deutsche Sprache zu erneuern. Diese Position, so wurde mir gesagt, ist eine Magistratur und deshalb finde ich es nur fair, wenn ich den Eid, welchen ich bei Amtsantritt get�tigt habe, nun erneuere. Eine deutsche Version des Eides folgt nach der englischen Version.
I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho (Thomas H�nzi), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a
way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of translator for German to the best of
my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of translator for German and all the rights,
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In the province of Germania, January 2nd, 2756 ab urbe condita.

Curate ut valeatis, TiAnO

Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO)
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office - Scriba to the Legatus Germaniae Superioris
From:	TiAnO <tiberius_ann@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:58:17 -0800 (PST)

Salvete Quirites,
I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili, while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of scriba to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of scriba with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

curate ut valeatis,
Only for the German speaking public: Dies hier ist der neue Amtseid f�r alle scriba und apparitoria in Nova Roma. Er ist noch nicht ganz offiziell, aber es kann nicht schaden, diesen einmal zu �berfliegen und zu �berdenken. Eine �bersetzung folgt erst, wenn er offiziell obligatorisch wird!!
Valete bene, TiAnO

Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO)
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Senior Curule Aedile
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:36:59 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco
Valenzano) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Senior Curule Aedile
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Senior Curule Aedile and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] R: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:19:06 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Caeso Fabio Quintiliano S.P.D.

Thank you very much, my boss!
I thing I has the most wonderful experience in Nova Roma working in your
Cohors Aedilis. Thanks to have given us the possibilities to develop and
improve our roman skills.
As Curule Aedile I hope to continue your job as well as your, you are my
model of Magistrate!
Thank you to all the colleagues of the Cohors Aedilis, it have been exciting
work togheter.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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----- Original Message -----
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 7:01 PM
Subject: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!

> Salvete all members of the Cohors Aedilis CFQ!
>
> I just want to once again thank You all from the bottom of my heart
> for your wonderful work for me in the Cohors Aedilis! Let's hope that
> next year will be good both privately and in Nova Roma!
>
> Hereby I release You all from your obligations in the Cohors Aedilis
> CFQ! See You all in the Cohors Consulis CFQ! ;-)
> --
>
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
> Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
> Propraetor Thules
> AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
> Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
> "Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
> ************************************************
> Senior Consul Designatus MMDCCLVI A.U.C.
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
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> Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Vesting of imperium
From:	"deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:13:05 -0000

I, Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and
uphold the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the
year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by
elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the
State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming
year.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Vesting of Imperium
From:	"Thomas Gangale"<marcus@martiana.org>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 08:13:48 -0800

Salvete,

I, Marcus Martianus Gangalius, Lictor Novae
Romae and member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium--the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the
laws--to the duly elected Nova Roma magistrates for the year 2755 AUC. I
acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed
magistrates in the coming year,
both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of Nova
Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the
positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Mars nos protegis,
M. Martianus Gangalius


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Accensus Consulis
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:40:44 +0100

Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quinitilianus while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Superior Secundus to the best of
my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Superior Secundus with all the
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete bene
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Vesting of Imperium
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:37:28 -0800

I, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and
uphold the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the
year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by
elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the
State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming
year.

Valete,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: R: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:49:31 +0100

Salve Amice!

I am the one that shall thank You! The huge amount oif work You did
during my term makes You as I see it to one of the best Quaestores in
Nova Roma ever. Our work in the Cohors Aedilis thaught us all a "few"
things, but we were the teachers of each other. ;-) I am sure that
You will improve the quality of the work as a Senior Curule Aedile
during your term.

Our team was wonderful, I agree! Many of them continue together with
You, that will guarantee that You will continue with the successes!
;-)

>Franciscus Apulus Caesar Caeso Fabio Quintiliano S.P.D.
>
>Thank you very much, my boss!
>I thing I has the most wonderful experience in Nova Roma working in your
>Cohors Aedilis. Thanks to have given us the possibilities to develop and
>improve our roman skills.
>As Curule Aedile I hope to continue your job as well as your, you are my
>model of Magistrate!
>Thank you to all the colleagues of the Cohors Aedilis, it have been exciting
>work togheter.
>
>Valete
>Franciscus Apulus Caesar
>-------------------------------------------
>Senior Curule Aedile
>Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
>Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
>Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
>Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
>Scriba Curatoris Araneum
>-------------------------------------------

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
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"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Vesting of Imperium please forward
From:	"Thomas Gangale"<marcus@martiana.org>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 10:49:34 -0800

-------- Forwarded message --------
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:35:55 EST
From: tgangale@jps.net
Reply-to: ComitiaCuriata@yahoogroups.com
To: ComitiaCuriata@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ComitiaCuriata] Vesting of Imperium please forward

Salvete

Due to some reason I have been unsubscribed to the mainlist.� Would a Lictor

please forward my formulae to main list where
it may be witnessed?

Vale

LFM

I, Lucius Fabius Metellus, a Lictor of Novae Romae and

member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the

passing of Imperium -- the authority to carry out the elected duties and to

uphold the laws--to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755

AUC.

�� I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and

appointed magistrates in the coming year, both within the State and Provincial

levels.

May the Gods and the spirits of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates

of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their

Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred pact

bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Lucius Fabius Metellus

Nova Roman Lictor


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:11:40 +0100

Salve,

My congratulations to my gensmate Arnamentia Moravia on her appointment as
Accensus Ordinarius in the Cohors Consulis of C Fabius Quintilianus. I know
that you'll enjoy working for him!

My congratulations also to the rest of the new appointees to the Cohors
Consulis of CFQ! I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as the year
progresses.

And to another dear gensmate Laureatus Moravius:

<My heart today also goes to Diana Moravia : May our mater use her usual
brilliance and common sense in her office as tribuna plebis.

Are you sure that we are speaking about the same Diana Moravia ? ;-) But
thank you for your kind words!

Vale,
Diana

Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunis Plebis
Sacerdos Venus
http://www.gensmoravia.org
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:29:40 -0000

Diana Moravia Aventina writes:

> My congratulations also to the rest of the new appointees to the
> Cohors Consulis of CFQ!

Thank you, fair Tribuna.

> I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
> but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as
> the year progresses.

It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

-- Marinus, with tongue firmly in cheek

1. A spelt cake for the first person to identify the reference.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:34:20 -0800

Avete Omnes,

> I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
> but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as
> the year progresses.

It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

Sulla: Why have all these departments, why not cut out the middle man and do the work yourselves instead of having other people do it and you take credit for it?

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Laureatus Armoricus" <laureatusarmoricus@tiscali.co.uk>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:48:02 -0000

> I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
> but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as
> the year progresses.

It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

-- Marinus, with tongue firmly in cheek

1. A spelt cake for the first person to identify the reference.

A fairy godmother department ? Las, what happend to our beloved Godfathers
? Anyway, count me in ! LOL

Moravius Laureatus


Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Laureatus Armoricus" <laureatusarmoricus@tiscali.co.uk>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:50:45 -0000

And to another dear gensmate Laureatus Moravius:

<My heart today also goes to Diana Moravia : May our mater use her usual
brilliance and common sense in her office as tribuna plebis.

Are you sure that we are speaking about the same Diana Moravia ? ;-) But
thank you for your kind words!

Vale,
Diana

[Laureatus Armoricus] Well, I also thought about other descriptives such as
"flaffing around" or "iron lady" but I'll stick to the official version : we
are on a public and respectable list after all ;-)

Well done to our soror Arnamentia ! and Congratulations to all the recently
appointed Accensi, although I am still writing it down to make sense of it
all...;-(

Moravius Laureatus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:51:31 -0000

Earlier, I wrote (with tongue firmly in cheek):
> It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
> and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
> blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
> they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
> Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

Consular Sulla asks:
> Sulla: Why have all these departments, why not cut out the middle
> man and do the work yourselves instead of having other people do it
> and you take credit for it?

*grinning* Because we need to train the next generation of Fairy
Godmothers and Practical Jokers, of course.

(More seriously, because there's a lot of work to be done, and
division of labor is a good idea for both accomplishing a mission
and teaching people how things work.)

Sorry Consular, no spelt cake for you.

-- Marinus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] appointments
From:	Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:54:40 -0800 (PST)

Thank you, Diana, I am enjoying myself already!

Happy New Year, everyone!

Arnamentia

_______________________________________________________

Message: 22
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:11:40 +0100
From: "Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Subject: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ

Salve,

My congratulations to my gensmate Arnamentia Moravia
on her appointment
as
Accensus Ordinarius in the Cohors Consulis of C Fabius
Quintilianus. I
know
that you'll enjoy working for him!

=====
Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia
http://www.gensmoravia.org

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:59:17 -0800

Avete Omnes,
----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ

Earlier, I wrote (with tongue firmly in cheek):
> It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
> and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
> blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
> they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
> Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

Consular Sulla asks:
> Sulla: Why have all these departments, why not cut out the middle
> man and do the work yourselves instead of having other people do it
> and you take credit for it?

*grinning* Because we need to train the next generation of Fairy
Godmothers and Practical Jokers, of course.

Sulla: How Roman.
(More seriously, because there's a lot of work to be done, and
division of labor is a good idea for both accomplishing a mission
and teaching people how things work.)

Sulla: Interesting. 15% of the population is active as citizens and you have to have a division of labor? When all of the consular magistrates are appointed I would love to see the ratio between consular magistrate and citizen (active citizen who voted in the last election) and then compare it to most macronational countries. <g>

Sorry Consular, no spelt cake for you.

Sulla: Not a problem for me. I always felt spelt cakes were for religious observances.

Vale,

Sulla

-- Marinus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Eagle Deadline
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:38:23 -0500

Salve Nova Romans

Just a friendly reminder to ANYBODY and EVERBODY who expressed an interest or said they have something to submit for the January Eagle. The deadline was YESTERDAY. Please take a few minutes (or hours) to finish up what you are going to send and then PLEASE send it. THANKS, THANKS

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (He who hides until the first of January)
and the pest YOU elected Curator Differium 2755 (GRIN)

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Laureatus Armoricus" <laureatusarmoricus@tiscali.co.uk>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:19:12 -0000

Sulla: Interesting. 15% of the population is active as citizens and
you have to have a division of labor? When all of the consular magistrates
are appointed I would love to see the ratio between consular magistrate and
citizen (active citizen who voted in the last election) and then compare it
to most macronational countries. <g>

[Laureatus Armoricus] It would be very interesting indeed...but come to
think of it, what better way to raise spirits and encourage participation
than allowing our citizens to take part in the running of things ? A State
is only as strong as its weakest, least knowlegeable citizens. We can't
blame the consules to try to strenghen the base of our nation only by
providing work and clear goals to as many of us as possible.

Vale

Moravius Laureatus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:45:21 -0800

----- Original Message -----
From: Laureatus Armoricus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ

Sulla: Interesting. 15% of the population is active as citizens and
you have to have a division of labor? When all of the consular magistrates
are appointed I would love to see the ratio between consular magistrate and
citizen (active citizen who voted in the last election) and then compare it
to most macronational countries. <g>

[Laureatus Armoricus] It would be very interesting indeed...but come to
think of it, what better way to raise spirits and encourage participation
than allowing our citizens to take part in the running of things ? A State
is only as strong as its weakest, least knowlegeable citizens. We can't
blame the consules to try to strenghen the base of our nation only by
providing work and clear goals to as many of us as possible.

Vale

Sulla: I agree it would be interesting. I am personally glad our taxes do not go to pay anyone's salary, or I would be raising hell about this. <g> To appoint essentially useless magistrates (because according to Gn. Equtius the lower scribes do the work and the mid-level magistrates take the credit). I do not see how that encourages participation. But beyond that shouldn't our citizens wish to volunter their services to Rome without expecting a title or to be rewarded in some manner.

Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Quaestor
From:	"salixdavianus <salixdavianus@terra.es>" <salixdavianus@terra.es>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:12:28 -0000

Ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae
Populo atque Senatu agere.
Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David S�nchez
Molina), Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae
temporibus
atque Romanas virtutes et ublica et privata vita persequi.
Ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), Romanam
religionem
favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et
numquam
agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti
capiat.Praeterea ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina)
IVRO
quam optime fungi officium muneris Quaestoris.
Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et
eorum voluntate et favore, munus Quaestoris ACCIPIO una cum iuribus,
privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Hispania Provincia, ante Kalendas Ianuarii 2756 ab Vrbe condita.

--------------------------
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), do hereby solemnly
swear
to uphold the honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David
S�nchez
Molina), swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), swear to protect
and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina) further swear to
fulfil
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the
best
of my abilities.
On my honour as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour, do I
accept the
position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In Hispania Provincia, ante Kalendas Ianuarii 2756 ab Vrbe condita.
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of Office as Quaestor
From:	"salixdavianus <salixdavianus@terra.es>" <salixdavianus@terra.es>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:13:15 -0000


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Appointment of Scribae
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>" <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:56:55 -0000

Edictum Aedilicium I Aedilis Curulis Gnaei Equitii Marini: Appointment
of Scribae

Gn. Equitius Marinus Aedilis Curulis Quiritibus salutem plurimam
dixit:

Gallus Minucius Iovinus, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, and Ivlia Aenea
Apollonia Musa are hereby appointed as my scribae, to serve as such
during my term of office as Curule Aedile throughout this upcoming
year.

Given under my hand in America Mediatlantica Provincia, ante diem
IV Nonas Ianuarius, MMDCCLVI a.u.c., this year of the consulship of
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus.

(02 Jan 2003 c.e.)

--
ex officio
Gn. Equitius Marinus
Curule Aedile

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"M. Octavius Solaris" <scorpioinvictus@hotmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:25:14 +0100

Salve mi Sulla!
Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

MOS: So much is true. And I recall that you prided yourself on it! :o)

Vale bene!
Solaris

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath of office for Accensi
From:	"Jonas Nilsson" <xkrull@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:59:24 +0100

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus while I hold this office, except when
such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson), further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Aedilis Curalis to
the best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson), swear to give faithful service
to Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve as Scriba Aedilis Curalis
solely at the discretion of Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Scriba Aedilis Curalis with all the privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In Suecicae Regio, Thule Provincia, Kalends Ianuarias MMDCCLVI a.u.c.

Gallus Minucius Iovinus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath for Scriba Curatoris Differium
From:	lanius117@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:16:57 EST

Gaius Lanius Falco Quiritibus S.P.D.

OATH

I, Gaius Lanius Falco (Vince Yurkunas), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator Differium, while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Gaius Lanius Falco (Vince Yurkunas), further swear to fulfill the
obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curatoris Differium to the best of
my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gaius Lanius Falco (Vince Yurkunas), swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Scriba Curatoris Differium with all the
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete bene

Gaius Lanius Falco

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
From:	"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:39:11 -0300

Salve Senator Deci Iuni Palladi

Your explanation threw light on the matter, and I really appreciate it. Thank you very much

|Message: 7
| Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 04:04:12 -0000
| From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net>
|Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
|
|
|Salve Senator L. Pompei,
|
|
||A quick definition is all magistrates elected by the people or
|appointed by the Senate. The quickest way to find them is to go the
|magistrates' page linked off the main Nova Roma page. There you will
|find censors, consuls, praetors, Tribunes of the Plebs, Aediles,
|quaestors, Curator Differum, Curator Araneum, rogators, interpreters.
|All these should take the oath. On the provincial level the governors
|and legates should take the oath as well.
|
|If a magistrate feels some need for his assistants (accensi, scribes,
|etc) to take an oath he is free I suppose to make one up for them,
|but it shouldn't be the magistrate's oath. The purpose of the
|magistrate's oath is primarily to protect the Religio Romana as the
|state religion of Nova Roma and protect the Constitution; it helps
|prevent magistrates from subverting them. It is a specific sacred
|obligation placed on the oath taker on top of the obligations given
|the magistrate by the People or the Senate. Apparitores are easy to
|get out of office, they are personal assistants that serve at the
|whim of their magistrate--who can release them at any time. A
|magistracy is a more serious position that cannot be released at
|whim.
|
|Vale,
|
|Decius Iunius Palladius

Vale bene

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
From:	"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:33:41 -0300

Salve Quinte Fabius Maxime

|Message: 25
| Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 16:05:21 EST
| From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
|Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
|
| The next question has to be, what exactly do you guys do? You oversee the
|races? That's the Aedile's job. Your methodology makes no sense. I have
|designed gaming systems for years now, and I never understood yours. When I
|ran the races for the Ludi, I used a miniature game with actual players and
|chariot models, then posted the account of the race. There was actually a
|competition between the players. Since the citizens could not bet because we
|cannot run a lotterly according the US government, the real point of the
|chariot race was moot, and I stopped it. If I was going to redo this today,
|I'd work on visual representation. We now have digital cameras and the
|ability to stream video. That would be the starting point.
|
|Q. Fabius Maximus

To tell the truth I would like to see a visual game too. Anyway, last year ludi circenses were very exciting for me despite the fact that it was only text. They've done a very nice job, I think. On the other way, I think that video wouldn't be the best solution for a dial-up connection with a 56k modem. At least whenever I want to see video in Internet, the video becomes desesperately slowly and its quality is really awfull.

Bene vale

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Congratulations
From:	"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:39:51 -0300

Salve Senior Consul et Senator Caeso Fabi Quintiliane

First of all congratulations for your new office of Senior Consul.
I am glad that the matter of oaths has been solved. I read the text of the oath for the apparitores and think it is very well suited.
By the way I think Senator Decius Iunius Palladius threw light on the matter brilliantly.

|It is good to hear that You are OK! I wish You all the |Luck in the
|future and I really appreciate your friendship. I hope that we soon
|may sit together on the marble benches of the Senate! ;-)

Maximas Gratias amice!. By the way, I am already sitting on the benches of the Senate since the month of December :-) .

Habeas fortunam optimam

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
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Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
From:	"Laureatus Armoricus" <laureatusarmoricus@tiscali.co.uk>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:25:06 -0000

Sulla: I agree it would be interesting. I am personally glad our taxes
do not go to pay anyone's salary, or I would be raising hell about this. <g>
To appoint essentially useless magistrates (because according to Gn. Equtius
the lower scribes do the work and the mid-level magistrates take the
credit). I do not see how that encourages participation. But beyond that
shouldn't our citizens wish to volunter their services to Rome without
expecting a title or to be rewarded in some manner.

[Laureatus Armoricus respondet] It seemed to me that Gn. Equitius used a
humorous tone when refering to the respective duties of the Accensi (hence
the "tongue in cheek" quote)...I of course have no doubt that they will ALL
work and do their utmost to develop Nova Roma according to the platforms
both Consules have been elected on. The fact that the said consules clearly
admitted that they couldn't be everywhere all the time seems an honest and
realistic view of the current affairs and I have personally no objection to
an official college of assistants (note, please, that we are not talking of
a government, rather a consilium) which was always in effect in previous
consulships but took the form of an informal club of gentlemen.

Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our
citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in
Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint
someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and
responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of
bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been
labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

[Laureatus Armoricus respondet] Recognition of the work required and done is
only one of the tools of good management. Perhaps the consules merely
attempted to create a team spirit that will benefit the community as a whole
when the job is done right and conscienciously by a motivated group.

As a last note, I do not believe that the work of the consules cheapens the
role of those occupying a public position nor does it create an army of
bureaucrats : It simply states what objectives our senior magistrates have
set for themselves and recognizes officially who will be the "little
helpers" who have so willingly offered the Res Publica their time and sweat.
Of course it is by no means a way of saying that they will take care of
everything and install some kind of centralised government (gods forbid)!
Diana Moravia for instance is now organising regular meeting in Gallia and
as far as I know she is not part of the team of accensi. There are many
other examples of such events, one just has to read the archives of the main
list to be convinced of the well being of Nova Roma. I am sure that an
official framework to develop such social gatherings, and indeed any
collective work between dedicated citizens, will not hinder the growth of
Nova Roma but will, on the contrary, provide support and advice to would be
organisers. But it comes at a prize : The necessary appointment of stable
volunteers who can serve as first port of call. Their name and number (call
them Accensi, little elves or "unappointed friends who came to help") is,
in my humble opinion, a matter of appreciation and secondary debate.

But my views may be biased and I am looking forward to some more healthy
discussion. Perhaps Titus Labienus Fortunatus or Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
our consules, could enlighten us as to where they stand, although the
constitution gives them the right and imperium to appoint assistants as they
see fit.

In any case, Corneli Sulla, I agree with you on the underlying issue : We
really need a census, soon, so we can contemplate the future of our
community and the way it is led on a sound and realistic basis. I thank you
for your input and will be happy to keep my mind open to some objections
that I may have overlooked.

Optime vale

Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
Citizen without official title ;-)