Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SVR
From: Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:36:56 -0500

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 04:29 PM, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> Once again we talk about SVR and NR in terms that should not be used.
> The people I know
> from both organisations are really good ones and I could call them my
> friends.

Sextus Apollonius is correct. Any organization that works to increase
knowledge and appreciation of ancient Rome should rightly be regarded
as a friend and ally of Nova Roma. I wish them well, and hope that we
may find common ground to work together on projects such as Roman
events, publications, and public-service efforts. Our enemies are
apathy and ignorance, and I suggest we turn our attention to them.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] SVR: Painful reform called for
From: "Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis" <pitrinius@mitdasein.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 03:20:18 +0100
ante diem VI Id. IANVARIAS MMDCCLVI

S. PITRINIUS L. CORNELIO SALUTEM


Indeed. My contention is, however: it's not enough to sequester the
arts and then continue governing. Witness Cicero:

"Nec vero habere virtutem satis est quasi artem aliquam nisi utare;
[...] usus autem eius est maximus civitatis gubernatio." 1)

In the spirit of high Roman politics, I press that our governors be
screened for fluency in language and arts; for only then can we be
governed in the best interest of Rome's rebirth, and not for the sake of
a degenerate simulation.

Vince igitur atque vale.


1) "It's not sufficient to possess the virtue's artistry if you don't
employ her; [...] indeed the governance of the state is the optimal
employment of artistry." (de re publica; Lib. I c. 2)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2003 05:59
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] SVR
>
>
> Avete Saxus Pitrinius et Omnes,
>
> Let me say this I am all for humanistic enterprise. But I do
> not see the reason to establish a separate and competing
> organization for the purpose of humanistic enterprise when
> Nova Roma has venues for such endeavors. Unless other
> motivations were at work.
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] SVR
>
>
> ante diem VII Id. IANVARIAS MMDCCLVI
>
> SAXUS CORNELIO SALUTEM
>
>
> I'm asking for clarification on what appeared to be a
> belittlement of
> the humanistic enterprise; as though politicians could ply
> their trade
> without civilization.
>
> Salve atque vale.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2003 19:44
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] SVR (response to MCJ's re Let's get
> > organized guys...)
> >
> >
> > Avete Saxus Pitrinius et Omnes,
> >
> > Sir, I do not know who you are. And, have never spoken to
> > you. So, my response to you are at liberty to take whatever
> > opinion you wish. I stand by my statement.
> >
> > If you would like to chat with me to get to know me I am
> > available on AIM, ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, and MSN Messenger.
> > You can get my contact information from the IM database.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:16 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] SVR (response to MCJ's re Let's
> > get organized guys...)
> >
> >
> > ante diem VII Id. IANVARIAS MMDCCLVI
> >
> > SAXUS CORNELIO SALUTEM
> >
> >
> > > Unfortunately, this is not the level of citizen we should be
> > > attracting in the first place. I am referring to those
> > > individuals who view NR as a game and not as a committment.
> >
> > Art thus undermining the significance of the humaniora in
> > favour of a
> > blunt, uncouth politicastry?
> >
> > Vince igitur et vale.
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] SVR: Painful reform called for
From: "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:52:15 -0800 (PST)
You are free to impose any rules you choose on the
Governers in the SVR. I Intend to look at all the
qualifications of a potential Propraetor for Nova
Roma, not just the one's that suit your agenda, or
anyone elses. I Have no intention of turning down an
otherwise qualified canidate because he fails to meet
some arbitrary rule desired by one segment of the
population.

--- Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis
<pitrinius@mitdasein.com> wrote:
> ante diem VI Id. IANVARIAS MMDCCLVI
>
> S. PITRINIUS L. CORNELIO SALUTEM
>
>
> Indeed. My contention is, however: it's not enough
> to sequester the
> arts and then continue governing. Witness Cicero:
>
> "Nec vero habere virtutem satis est quasi artem
> aliquam nisi utare;
> [...] usus autem eius est maximus civitatis
> gubernatio." 1)
>
> In the spirit of high Roman politics, I press that
> our governors be
> screened for fluency in language and arts; for only
> then can we be
> governed in the best interest of Rome's rebirth, and
> not for the sake of
> a degenerate simulation.
>
> Vince igitur atque vale.
>
>
> 1) "It's not sufficient to possess the virtue's
> artistry if you don't
> employ her; [...] indeed the governance of the state
> is the optimal
> employment of artistry." (de re publica; Lib. I c.
> 2)
>


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Roman Citizen

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Ancient Domains spam
From: Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:50:42 -0500
As Praetrix I sent a letter to the Ancient Domains people last night,
politely asking that the spam be stopped.

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] SVR: Painful reform called for
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:52:29 +0000 (GMT)
A. Apollonius Cordus to Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis
and all citizens and peregrines, greetings.

Atheniensis wrote:
> In the spirit of high Roman politics, I press that
> our governors be screened for fluency in language
> and arts; for only then can we be governed in the
> best interest of Rome's rebirth, and not for the
> sake of a degenerate simulation.

Any desire to get closer to the spirit of Romanitas is
worth considering, but it also must be borne in mind
that Nova Roma needs to function efficiently as an
organization, as well as to be authentic. I would
respectfully suggest that when the Senate is swamped
by highly competent and active applicants for
Governorships, then it would be worth considering
adding additional criteria for their selection. At the
moment, though, I don't think (though I am not a
Senator, so I don't know for certain) that this is the
position, and it is rather better for citizens in a
given province to have a good Governor who can't speak
Latin than to have no Governor.

This, of course, is merely a personal view: I don't
speak in any official capacity.

Cordus

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Apollonia Acta -- Weekly Roman Archeology and News
From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:42:09 -0800 (PST)
Salvete Omnes,

we wish you all a happy new year 2003!!

After two weeks off, Apollonia Acta comes back with a lot of interesting stories at:

http://www.fr-novaroma.com/Archeology/

By the way, Alba Fucens, one of the most important ancient Roman outposts in central
Italy, is on sale for... €40615.00 Talking about sales?

Valete,





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Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Ancient Domains spam
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:47:27 -0000
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Cassia <pcassia@n...>
wrote:
> As Praetrix I sent a letter to the Ancient Domains people last
night,
> politely asking that the spam be stopped.
>

Thank you. Of course you do realize now they have your email address
for certain now. <G>

Q. Cassius Calvus


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