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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] total war
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:52:46 +0100

Franciscus Apulus CAesar Omnibus S.P.D.

Have you news about this wonderful videogame
http://www.totalwar.com/rome.htm ?
I'm trying to buy it but I don't understand how I can do. And I want to know
if there is an italian version (or upgrade) or a demo.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] total war
From:	StarVVreck@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:12:39 EST

In a message dated 1/23/2003 8:00:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sacro_barese_impero@libero.it writes:

> Have you news about this wonderful videogame
> http://www.totalwar.com/rome.htm ?
> I'm trying to buy it but I don't understand how I can do. And I want to
> know
> if there is an italian version (or upgrade) or a demo.
>
>

It looks like the game is still being developed.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] total war
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:18:56 -0600

"Total War" looks kick ass.

You should check out "Praetorians"

http://www.eidosinteractive.co.uk/games/info.html?gmid=132

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----- Original Message -----
From: StarVVreck@aol.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] total war

In a message dated 1/23/2003 8:00:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sacro_barese_impero@libero.it writes:

> Have you news about this wonderful videogame
> http://www.totalwar.com/rome.htm ?
> I'm trying to buy it but I don't understand how I can do. And I want to
> know
> if there is an italian version (or upgrade) or a demo.
>
>

It looks like the game is still being developed.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] total war
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:21:26 -0600

Rome: Total War announced and website launched January 20 12:47PM PST

Creative Assembly has released confirmation that the next Total War game is in development, and indeed, they have also launched the website for it. Rome: Total War will feature over 10,000 fully 3D units on the battlefield and an incredibly deep empire-level strategy element.

The goal of the game will be to conquer the Roman empire and set yourself up as Emperor. Battle units will include Roman legions, Greek phalanxes, barbarian hordes, and even elephants.

Check out the game's new official website for more information, including screenshots.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] total war

"Total War" looks kick ass.

You should check out "Praetorians"

http://www.eidosinteractive.co.uk/games/info.html?gmid=132

The Law Office of James L. LaSalle
417 East 13th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64106
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----- Original Message -----
From: StarVVreck@aol.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] total war

In a message dated 1/23/2003 8:00:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sacro_barese_impero@libero.it writes:

> Have you news about this wonderful videogame
> http://www.totalwar.com/rome.htm ?
> I'm trying to buy it but I don't understand how I can do. And I want to
> know
> if there is an italian version (or upgrade) or a demo.
>
>

It looks like the game is still being developed.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen
From:	"Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date:	Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:48:07 -0600

You all do have fine gens, even if your gens are made up of 57 year old poodle groomers still living at home with their mothers.

May I suggest the gens Basilicata? Amongst our ranks we have a Nobel Laureate, a five time Oscar winner, the inventer of the sandwich, and, of course, myself, Time Magazine's 1997 Man of the Year.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

Salve, oh carissimus Publius Tarquitius Rufus

I very much share your feelings about being involved in Nova Roma. In
fact, I can read that we entered this community almost at the same
time. Nevertheless I strongly disagree with your statement about the
best gens. We all know ADRIANUS gens is actually the most active and
brilliant gens in Nova Roma, and our paterfamilias, Sarus, one of the
best men here. =)

vale bene

antonius adrianus urcitanus

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "William Rogers <wlr107@yahoo.com>" <wlr107@yahoo.com>
Fecha: Jueves, Enero 23, 2003 2:06 pm
Asunto: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen

> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gabal505
> <gabal@n...>"
>
> <gabal@n...> wrote:
>
> > I am thankful for your reply,
>
> > I haven't based my opinion solely on 20th century movies and
>
> > literature. I am a history studenr and I was more likely
> refering
>
> to
>
> > Suetonie and number of other historians who contributed in
> the
>
> > Historia Augusta. Your reply was very helpful and some things
> are
>
> > much more clear to me now.
>
>
>
> I am a new member here at Nova Roma (I joined about 2 1/2 months
>
> ago). While not everyone gets along all of the time (Right Mr.
>
> Audens ;-)), I have come to truly love the opportunity to learn
> and
>
> grow here. This organization has MANY opportunities for one to
> learn,
>
> grow, and meet great people from all over the world! Literally! My
>
> pater Caius Tarquitius, is from Germany, and while he is here at
>
> Emory University, we get together about every 10 days as a gens
> just
>
> to fellowship and learn from one another (mostly from him, to be
>
> sure!) I have learned quite abit about his home in Bavaria, and
> about
>
> Rome also! Heck, this friday we are having a "meeting"
> to invite
>
> everyone to sit and eat Roman dishes!
>
>
>
> Nova Roma is an excellent opportunity to have some truly brilliant
>
> minds across many, many disciplines to bounce ideas off, ask
>
> questions of, and to learn from.
>
>
>
> I hope you decide to join (sign up for the coolest gens, of
>
> course...the TARQUITIUS! --Not that I'm plugging my gens or
>
> anything), and wait for that long gens list to load and look at
> each
>
> gens, then "move on in!" I believe that I can speak for
> many here
>
> when I say we would LOVE to have you!
>
>
>
> In Humility and Friendship,
>
>
>
> Publius Tarquitius Rufus
>
>
>
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>
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:53:56 -0500

Salve Shouldn't that read "RomanTimes, Man of the Year"

Tiberius
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:51 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen

You all do have fine gens, even if your gens are made up of 57 year old poodle groomers still living at home with their mothers.

May I suggest the gens Basilicata? Amongst our ranks we have a Nobel Laureate, a five time Oscar winner, the inventer of the sandwich, and, of course, myself, Time Magazine's 1997 Man of the Year.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

Salve, oh carissimus Publius Tarquitius Rufus

I very much share your feelings about being involved in Nova Roma. In
fact, I can read that we entered this community almost at the same
time. Nevertheless I strongly disagree with your statement about the
best gens. We all know ADRIANUS gens is actually the most active and
brilliant gens in Nova Roma, and our paterfamilias, Sarus, one of the
best men here. =)

vale bene

antonius adrianus urcitanus

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "William Rogers <wlr107@yahoo.com>" <wlr107@yahoo.com>
Fecha: Jueves, Enero 23, 2003 2:06 pm
Asunto: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen

> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gabal505
> <gabal@n...>"
>
> <gabal@n...> wrote:
>
> > I am thankful for your reply,
>
> > I haven't based my opinion solely on 20th century movies and
>
> > literature. I am a history studenr and I was more likely
> refering
>
> to
>
> > Suetonie and number of other historians who contributed in
> the
>
> > Historia Augusta. Your reply was very helpful and some things
> are
>
> > much more clear to me now.
>
>
>
> I am a new member here at Nova Roma (I joined about 2 1/2 months
>
> ago). While not everyone gets along all of the time (Right Mr.
>
> Audens ;-)), I have come to truly love the opportunity to learn
> and
>
> grow here. This organization has MANY opportunities for one to
> learn,
>
> grow, and meet great people from all over the world! Literally! My
>
> pater Caius Tarquitius, is from Germany, and while he is here at
>
> Emory University, we get together about every 10 days as a gens
> just
>
> to fellowship and learn from one another (mostly from him, to be
>
> sure!) I have learned quite abit about his home in Bavaria, and
> about
>
> Rome also! Heck, this friday we are having a "meeting"
> to invite
>
> everyone to sit and eat Roman dishes!
>
>
>
> Nova Roma is an excellent opportunity to have some truly brilliant
>
> minds across many, many disciplines to bounce ideas off, ask
>
> questions of, and to learn from.
>
>
>
> I hope you decide to join (sign up for the coolest gens, of
>
> course...the TARQUITIUS! --Not that I'm plugging my gens or
>
> anything), and wait for that long gens list to load and look at
> each
>
> gens, then "move on in!" I believe that I can speak for
> many here
>
> when I say we would LOVE to have you!
>
>
>
> In Humility and Friendship,
>
>
>
> Publius Tarquitius Rufus
>
>
>
> </tt>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] A question regarding a Symbol
From:	"Adrian Gunn" <shinjikun@shinjikun.com>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:27:06 -0500

Salvete,

In my wanderings online I came across what appears to be an astrological
symbol, (similar to the planetary symbols for Mars, Venus, Luna,
etc)that supposedly represents Minerva/Athena. I have provided a link to
an image of the symbol:

http://www.shinjikun.com/minerva_symbol.htm

Can any one tell me anything about this symbol? Is it legitimate? If so,
how and when would it have been used? In Classical times? Or as a
Medieval occult symbol?

Thanks!

Valete,

C. Minucius Hadrianus
Propraetor Nova Britannia
Lictor
Minerva Templi Sacerdotes
�
Patria est communis omnium parens.
�Our native land is the common parent of us all.� - Cicero

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] RE: [ReligioRomana] A question regarding a Symbol
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:26:10 +0100

Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus,

I found that symbol in Barbar Walkers book 'A women's encyclopaedia of
symbols and sacred objects.'
Now I have heard that Barbara Walker makes connections to symbols where
there aren't any, but since I am not a symbol expert, I have no idea
whether that is true or not. It is even possible that you found that symbol
on a website that took this symbol/info from her book.anyway, i scanned in
the info that went with the symbol.
Vale,
Diana Moravia

Athene
Sulphur used to be sacred to Athene as a Goddess of healing and
purification, when people believed that burning brimstone (sulphur) would
drive away the spirits of dis�ease. The element was named after her under
the title of Brimo, virgin mother of the Holy Child Brimus. Alchemists
therefore used the sign of Athene for sulphur; which they were always trying
to combine with mercury in a "marriage of Athene and Hermes," believing this
process could make gold. It never did.
Athene was much older than the city of Athens that finally adopted her as
its patron. Her origin was not even Greek. She was the Libyan Triple
Goddess, var�iously named Neith, Metis, Medusa, An�ath, or Ath-enna;
Egyptians said Athene was a title of Isis and it meant "I have come from
myself."' Athene's display of the Gorgon head on her aegis referred to her
own Destroyer aspect. Her Crone self, Medusa-Metis, was twice mythologized
as Perseus's petrifying monster and as Athene's mother, who was swallowed by
Zeus in order that he might give birth to Athene from his own head. This
male birth imitation was often cited to show that Athene recognized no
mother and gave all her loyalty to her heavenly father; but its real meaning
was that Athene was his Sophia, his wisdom, the guiding female spirit within
his head.
The name of Athene's major temple, the Parthenon, means "Virgin-house."
Athene was "virgin" in the old sense: independent of male attachments, a
spouse to none, a free agent. Yet, accord�ing to archaic traditions, she had
lovers: Pan and Hephaestus, for example. Her sign represents female
self-determination, free�dom, and great skill in the civilized arts, of
which she was supposed to have been humanity's primary teacher.

1. Budge, G.E. 1, 459. 2. Graves, G.M. I,

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Age Difference
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:51:08 +0100

Salve dear Marcus Minucius Audens!

> Now that is a surprise!!!!!!!! I have seen pictures of both yourself
< and Senator Sulla. My thoughts were that your were quite a young and
< very lovely young lady!
Thank you! I'm still quite young on the inside, having stopped aging
mentally sometime around the age of 18 <giggle>. The Albium gentium photo
was taken last April on my 41st birthday for my curriculum vitae. I snapped
20 pictures and then picked out the best one. The rejected photos were
quickly deleted before anyone saw them :-)

The gentlemen between 50 and 75 years old think that I am a nice 'young'
lady so age is relative and beauty is still in the eye of the beholder :-))

> All the best my dear, and I look forward to the day when we may all meet
> face to face.
Me too!

Vale,
Diana Moravia Aventina

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen
From:	URCITANUS <urcitanus@terra.es>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:16:50 +0100

Salve,
Dear Agrciola...LOL

ANTONIUS ADRIANUS URCITANUS

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Fecha: Viernes, Enero 24, 2003 4:48 am
Asunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen

> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> You all do have fine gens, even if your gens are made up of 57
> year old poodle groomers still living at home with their mothers.
>
>
>
> May I suggest the gens Basilicata? Amongst our ranks we have a
> Nobel Laureate, a five time Oscar winner, the inventer of the
> sandwich, and, of course, myself, Time Magazine's 1997 Man of the
> Year.
>
>
> Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
>
>
>
>
>
> Salve, oh carissimus Publius Tarquitius Rufus
>
>
>
> I very much share your feelings about being involved in Nova
> Roma. In
>
> fact, I can read that we entered this community almost at the
> same
>
> time. Nevertheless I strongly disagree with your statement about
> the
>
> best gens. We all know ADRIANUS gens is actually the most active
> and
>
> brilliant gens in Nova Roma, and our paterfamilias, Sarus, one
> of the
>
> best men here. =)
>
>
>
> vale bene
>
>
>
> antonius adrianus urcitanus
>
>
>
> ----- Mensaje Original -----
>
> De: "William Rogers <wlr107@yahoo.com>"
> <wlr107@yahoo.com>
> Fecha: Jueves, Enero 23, 2003 2:06 pm
>
> Asunto: [Nova-Roma] Re: question from a potential citizen
>
>
>
> > <html><body>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > <tt>
>
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gabal505
>
> > <gabal@n...>"
>
> >
>
> > <gabal@n...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I am thankful for your reply,
>
> >
>
> > > I haven't based my opinion solely on 20th century
> movies and
>
> >
>
> > > literature. I am a history studenr and I was more
> likely
>
> > refering
>
> >
>
> > to
>
> >
>
> > > Suetonie and number of other historians who
> contributed in
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > > Historia Augusta. Your reply was very helpful and
> some things
>
> > are
>
> >
>
> > > much more clear to me now.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I am a new member here at Nova Roma (I joined about 2 1/2
> months
>
> >
>
> > ago). While not everyone gets along all of the time (Right
> Mr.
>
> >
>
> > Audens ;-)), I have come to truly love the opportunity to
> learn
>
> > and
>
> >
>
> > grow here. This organization has MANY opportunities for one
> to
>
> > learn,
>
> >
>
> > grow, and meet great people from all over the world!
> Literally! My
>
> >
>
> > pater Caius Tarquitius, is from Germany, and while he is
> here at
>
> >
>
> > Emory University, we get together about every 10 days as a
> gens
>
> > just
>
> >
>
> > to fellowship and learn from one another (mostly from him,
> to be
>
> >
>
> > sure!) I have learned quite abit about his home in Bavaria,
> and
>
> > about
>
> >
>
> > Rome also! Heck, this friday we are having a
> "meeting"
>
> > to invite
>
> >
>
> > everyone to sit and eat Roman dishes!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Nova Roma is an excellent opportunity to have some truly
> brilliant
>
> >
>
> > minds across many, many disciplines to bounce ideas off,
> ask
>
> >
>
> > questions of, and to learn from.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I hope you decide to join (sign up for the coolest gens, of
>
> >
>
> > course...the TARQUITIUS! --Not that I'm plugging my gens or
>
> >
>
> > anything), and wait for that long gens list to load and
> look at
>
> > each
>
> >
>
> > gens, then "move on in!" I believe that I
> can speak for
>
> > many here
>
> >
>
> > when I say we would LOVE to have you!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In Humility and Friendship,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Publius Tarquitius Rufus
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > </tt>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> >
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Mailing List for all Plebeian citizens
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:15:21 +0100

Salve F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus,

< Pray tell, why do the plebeians need their own list. Since we represent
the majority of NR < <citizens, shouldn't we just use the main list?
Please enlighten me so that I may know < the <answer to this puzzle. Vale.

Good question. Unfortunately, Yahoogroups is treating me very badly today
and won't let me look into the archives of the list to see if there was any
mention of why the list was made.

Looking to the constitution for the answers, I can see 2 reasons why the
Plebeians would want to have their own list: III.c & III.c.3.

1) Only the comitia plebis tributa shall pass laws governing the rules by
which it shall operate internally.
2) To try legal cases solely involving members of the plebeian order that do
not involve permanent removal of citizenship.
In 2, a private list would be better for the Plebeian in question rather
than having his/her case tried on the main list amongst non-citizens and
Patrician citizens whose opinion may influence the proceedings.

Vale,
Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunus Plebis

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Apollonia Acta -- Weekly Roman News and Archeology
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:43:30 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

please find the latest news at:

http://www.fr-novaroma.com/Archeology/

and enjoy them...

Valete,

Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Propraetor Galliae

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Plebs really the majority? (WAS: Mailing List for all Plebeian citizens)
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:58:38 +0000 (GMT)

A. Apollonius Cordus to all citizens and peregrines,
greetings.

Aurelianus Secundus said:

> Since we represent the majority of NR citizens

('We' being the plebs)

I'd be interested to know, actually, whether active
plebeians actually do outnumber active patricians by
any substantial margin, or indeed at all.

No doubt we'll have to wait for the census to tell us
definitively, but has anyone any indicative evidence
or experience?

Cordus

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